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12:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nobar
The sawtooth is due to reputation typically increasing by 10 at a time. This effect is hidden by the larger binning (due to the logarithmic scale) as the plot moves to the right, and also reduced on the right, as a percentage, by the increasing likelihood of having earned (or lost) points in other multiples. Here's a view with linear binning by multiples of 10: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1084693/…nobar 4 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mason
I fear that they don't want to know when users are frustrated. Or at least, the longtime users that choose to participate in Meta. Seems like they're more interested in appeasing inexperienced users who might take to Twitter and criticize the site than actually hearing the frustration. I think they'd rather us just shut up and continue to work for free for them. Yes, the employees may deny it (and some of them may even genuinely want to hear our complaints) but it seems like those at the top don't want to hear us. — mason 6 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mason
@RobertHarvey Yes, I agree. We need better oversight of moderators on Meta. Oh wait....you mean by "meta needs better moderator oversight" that moderators need to take a heavier hand in providing oversight of Meta? Hell no, that's not undisputed. The vehemently negative reaction here is proof that we don't want that. — mason 9 mins ago
12:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pedro Lobito
That's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! — Pedro Lobito 1 min ago
1:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
I am talking about answers, because if you're concerned about this they are your best option, @mason. I had this same argument with Jeff a decade ago; there's a reason comments have been documented as "temporary" for as long as I've been here. — Shog9 ♦ 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gino Mempin
It might be helpful if you can provide a requirements.txt and/or a Dockerfile that can be used to re-create your env. — Gino Mempin 6 mins ago
1:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mackycheese21
Aware of the irony, I have to downvote this post. Making bad decisions will make the people irritated. Making bad decisions without consulting the people causes revolutions. You guys are afraid to come on meta because.... you don't want to face the criticism of ideas / features that have been deemed stupid by the community. — mackycheese21 4 mins ago
1:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mason
@Shog9 But the problem is with oversight of moderator actions as related to comments. That's what this whole thing has been about. The title is "Should the mod team tight up moderation on comments". You can say they're ephemeral all you want, but that doesn't mean they should be cleaned up without a good reason. And I'm not seeing good reasons for why a lot of the comments in this very question have been removed. — mason 6 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David C. Rankin
Like I said, when the situation becomes so ridiculous that what's happening becomes a verb ("@jww'ed"), you have a problem. Example How to rsync all folders present on the destination folderDavid C. Rankin 8 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MilkyWay90
@matt It's not the mods; it's the company. The moderators I've seen are actually against this. — MilkyWay90 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
If the mod team decides that comment exchanges are going to be either brief or temporary - which is their prerogative, as they're tasked with moderating those threads - then that's what you have to work with, @mason. — Shog9 ♦ 3 mins ago
2:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rtpHarry
@andreas thank you 🙂 I am on day 44 of my fanatic badge. I haven't given up. When I wrote this, part of what I thought was that the meta team would maybe share in my pain, and it would be a community bonding moment, strengthening my resolve and my feeling of belonging. Instead, it genuinely ruined chunks of several days. Whatever this community is, I don't fit in with my approach, so I am doing this solo, and steering clear of meta moving forward. Top 0.38% this month, so I'm happy with that instead. — rtpHarry 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JGreenwell
@MadaraUchiha 1st, I still like your posts in Anime and have never had a problem with your moderation efforts (before this) or distrust you personally but I did downvote because I disagree with enough of the proposal - not all, enough). 2nd, I posted this at the same time you made your change so the edit definitely helps (I'm leaving it in the answer though as the policy is still worrying me as it seems very heavy handed). 3rd, though I understand the lack of weight in downvotes & the need for feedback (and I do believe enough mods - including you - will listen) the +/- ratio is increasing — JGreenwell 9 mins ago
2:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JGreenwell
Note, I also feel that I once again must add - I have a great deal of trust in the majority of the moderation team here. But recent incidents have made me question (including literally asking other developers I know) this with a few — JGreenwell 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JGreenwell
Its not something I've had to think about (or every thought I would) but there needs to be a more anonymous way to handle complaints of this nature or we will not get this feedback (and yes, I know that is hard to do, think of whistleblower programs and how difficult those are to setup, and would be ripe for abuse so I'm not saying we should rush just.....I currently am thinking about SO whistleblowers and that in & of itself is frightening). — JGreenwell 3 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JGreenwell
2nd: I have heard & read people state they were scared to do that because of the retaliation they would face from the moderators (I'm not saying they would receive this just that it is a fear people have) if they post an actual question both in chat (where a person was mocked as scared for not posting right after this) & in RL. — JGreenwell 4 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JGreenwell
@Shog9 I only have 2 problems with the idea of "post an answer/question" if you have a problem with how a moderator handled comments: 1. it is hard to find deleted comments (even your own) so its hard to really get the context (and at least one mod is demanding a direct link making it impossible). — JGreenwell 4 mins ago
3:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by satya
Nice explanation. I couldn't follow where the $\delta$'s are coming from though. — satya 17 mins ago
3:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 1201ProgramAlarm
I like the suggestion to always allow a typo question to be deleted. I was thinking the same thing. — 1201ProgramAlarm 2 mins ago
4:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mason
@Cypher what trainwreck? There's one confused new user who doesn't understand the site rules and why we have them, and several people trying to explain them. Other than this being posted on a completely unrelated question, this is how it's supposed to be. — mason 5 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@AndrewMorton Not that old, but look here from 28:15 when asked about adding chat for teams: "I don't know if we're gonna add the chat rooms, we do - believe it or not - have chat rooms that are weird and we cannot get rid of" — Modus Tollens 1 min ago
5:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Somnath Muluk
@MartijnPieters : Agreed. Thanks :) I will be adding another answer. — Somnath Muluk 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
@AndrewMorton When a message is a reply, on the left of the post, there is a up and left-turn arrow indicating it's a reply. In the main chat, if you hover over a reply, then the message which it is replying to is highlighted. If you hover over the message which is being replied to, then the reply is highlighted. If you click on the up and left-turn arrow which indicates it's a reply, then you are taken to the message to which it's replying, even if the message being replied to is not even close to where the reply is, or even if the replied-to message has been moved to another chat room. — Makyen 5 mins ago
5:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Root
@ Mark S I have a certain wreath product in mind but I intend to ask this in general framework. Partly because I 'think' this should be true in general and mainly because any such examples would be nice. — Root 18 mins ago
5:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Okay, that is strange as it doesn't work for me either. I can get it to work if I add <!-- language: lang-python --> and a blank line before your code block. Here is what it should look like: i.stack.imgur.com/0rasV.pngrene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Megan Risdal
@Gourav Why do you want the exact timestamp? What would it let you do (more easily)? — Megan Risdal ♦ 9 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@Rob yes, that is strange indeed and inconsistent and confirmed bu my testing. I guess that is a bug. — rene 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
@rene Huh. I could have sworn there was no highlighting here. And the approach I took in my screenshot works on main, but not here — Rob ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@Rob I took my screenshot on Meta .... — rene 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Also make sure you have an introduction paragraph where you explain what that code is about. Just starting with the code out of nowhere is not going well with the filter that checks the post quality. — rene 3 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
The three ticks and language hint works for me: i.stack.imgur.com/7XYI6.png. I haven't tried submitting it, however. You might need to wait a few seconds for the highlighting kick in. Make sure you test on stack overflow main, meta doesn't have highlighting — Rob ♦ 4 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Another option is to use lang-python at the first code-fench instead of just python. — rene 6 mins ago
6:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Amit Joshi
The today's improvement will be further helpful... — Amit Joshi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
That said: I think it is a typo (see rev 81). In the recent blog from Taryn, our bluefeeted DBA, she explains how she upgraded the OS from Windows 2012 to Windows 2016 (planned was Windows 2019) to make the transition to SQL Server 2019 possible. — rene 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
I wouldn't be surprised if there is #if NICK_CRAVER in the source code of the Windows OS .... — rene 9 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user2723984
sincethe trace preserving condition is valid for every matrix $\rho$, I picked some $\rho$ that allowed me to conclude that $A$ was the identity — user2723984 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaftWullie
@satya Moreover, there is always a $k\leq n$. — DaftWullie 11 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaftWullie
@IntegrateThis I don't know if there's an explicit discussion (I've not looked for one). I think it's generally just left as the techniques required are very similar to the techniques used throughout the rest of the paper. — DaftWullie 13 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
The silly assumption that Microsoft released a special version of windows, versus the more logical assumption that someone made a typo in a answer is possibly why this got downvoted. — Cerbrus 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
well, trivia questions have a 50/50 chance to do well. It is debatable how useful it is. — rene 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Did you see and use the question checklist? It helps in self-evaluating your question. There is also guidance on this externally maintained website which you might find useful. — rene 3 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by I am the Most Stupid Person
Why people downvote this question? Is this a bad question for Stackoverflow? — I am the Most Stupid Person 4 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Of course not! Don't be silly, @rene! — Cerbrus 6 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
As if leaving a comment with the word silly in it isn't silly @Cerbrus ... — rene 8 mins ago
Boson Started
7:07 AM
@Bos track quantumcomputing comments 1500 -p ONE_BOX -d HIGGS -n QuantumComputing_Comments
Tracking comments on quantumcomputing as directed in SOBotics Workshop
New tracker started: QuantumComputing_Comments
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by user2723984
sincethe trace preserving condition is valid for every matrix $\rho$, I picked some $\rho$ that allowed me to conclude that $A$ was the identity — user2723984 19 mins ago
@Boson track meta.stackoverflow comments 600 -p ONE_BOX -r 197298 -t STACK_OVERFLOW -d HIGGS -n MSO_Comments
New tracker started: MSO_Comments
seems to have worked this time. what'd I mess up @BhargavRao?
There were some errors with access issues ... not sure why, though.
7:12 AM
Was it because the room is gallery? I added Boson to the access list
How hard on the API quota is scanning comments btw?
is it 24*60*60 / 600 = 144 quota per day?
Hmm.... I guess I haven't handled that error which caused it to screw up... :p. I will look into it once I get free.
@Boson quota
Erm
@Boson alive
Yes, I'm alive
I guess I've removed the quota command :D
I was going to give boson RO but he has to have 100 rep before I can do that
Cause the mod turnaround time on MSO means 5 minute scans will miss quite a few comments
But anyway, it must be 1 call per 600 seconds ... so your calculation might be correct
Wait, lemme bring Boson up in dev mode for a second
7:15 AM
So once per 60 seconds would be 1440 quota per day, thats quite a chunk
Boson Started
@Boson track meta.stackoverflow comments 60 -p ONE_BOX -r 197298 -t STACK_OVERFLOW -d HIGGS -n MSO_Comments
{
	"items": [],
	"has_more": false,
	"quota_max": 10000,
	"quota_remaining": 9487
}
@Boson list
MSO_Comments
@Boson stop MSO_Comments
Bot MSO_Comments stopped
7:18 AM
@Boson track meta.stackoverflow comments 600 -p ONE_BOX -r 197298 -t STACK_OVERFLOW -d HIGGS -n MSO_Comments
Depending on how many other things boson has going on 1440 qpd might be too much to ask
org.sobotics.chatexchange.chat.ChatOperationException: Cannot join a room you are already in.
	at org.sobotics.chatexchange.chat.StackExchangeClient.joinRoom(StackExchangeClient.java:190)
Kinda explains why the second call screwed up
should I kick boson for a second
or make the room non gallery?
7:19 AM
Don't worry ... I can always restart and get Boson out of all rooms immediately ;)
Boson Started
@Boson track meta.stackoverflow comments 120 -p ONE_BOX -r 197298 -t STACK_OVERFLOW -d HIGGS -n MSO_Comments
Let's go with 120, that should be fine ... right?
better then 600, yea
{
	"items": [],
	"has_more": false,
	"quota_max": 10000,
	"quota_remaining": 9470
}
120 should only miss a small couple of comments
7:21 AM
17 API calls in 4 minutes
hmm
Is writing to chat an API call?
That implies some 6000 calls are made from other bots apart from Boson
So Boson has 4000 to enjoy
Nope. Chat isn't an API call.
How many other boson trackers are running?
1 other Boson tracker for Quantum Computing comments, but 4 other bots on the same server
*3 other
If this becomes an API call burden, we can always get thesecretmaster's IPS comment bot instead
with its own account and API key and quota for MSO comments
7:24 AM
I can put in my API key and my Access Token and get in 10k quota extra on the same IP, so we're fine
Cool. Seems working. I'll switch it back to the prod instance and head for lunch.
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@Boson track meta.stackoverflow comments 600 -p ONE_BOX -r 197298 -t STACK_OVERFLOW -d HIGGS -n MSO_Comments
New tracker started: MSO_Comments
@Bos track quantumcomputing comments 1500 -p ONE_BOX -d HIGGS -n QuantumComputing_Comments
That was 600 again
7:29 AM
Tracking comments on quantumcomputing as directed in SOBotics Workshop
New tracker started: QuantumComputing_Comments
Ah damn
wrong copy paste
@Boson stop MSO_Comments
Bot MSO_Comments stopped
Boson Started
@Boson track meta.stackoverflow comments 120 -p ONE_BOX -r 197298 -t STACK_OVERFLOW -d HIGGS -n MSO_Comments
New tracker started: MSO_Comments
@Bos track quantumcomputing comments 1500 -p ONE_BOX -d HIGGS -n QuantumComputing_Comments
7:31 AM
Tracking comments on quantumcomputing as directed in SOBotics Workshop
New tracker started: QuantumComputing_Comments
Hopefully this should be the last one
Dead hungry already :D
Sorry for the mess ...
Cya
@Magisch, also lemme know if you have any feedback about Boson ... it is still in beta
thanks
Now time for lunch
@BhargavRao thank you :)
You can also run Boson from different pc... with different api keys.. each Boson will have 10.000 calls
7:58 AM
@BhargavRao whenever you have time to not miss any comments even if time between calls are high (hence you need to retrive more then 100 comments), you can use the hasMore property of the api json response. Basically you start with a fromDate (that is set as bot start time), then you do a recursive method that recalls it self if hasMore is true always setting fromDate to last comment retrieved (be sure to order by fromDate) something like this
you need &order=desc&sort=creation in api call.. and also when you exit you set your fromDate to last comment retrieved, hence you will never miss any comment from the time that the bot starts even if you call every 10 min.
You can see here how it's used to retrieved all comments on SO, now there is a mess there since it's automatically adapting time between calls (to save api quota), but the important part is how it uses the long start variable
 
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11:16 AM
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by glS
source code of what? What are you referring to here? — glS 12 mins ago
11:41 AM
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by glS
how does "how to make" mean? You mean what gate/circuit can be used to change this state into another one with $b>a$? — glS 15 mins ago
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by glS
I'm not clear why you don't want to use amplitude amplification, which does exactly what you are asking for — glS 19 mins ago
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by glS
isn't this essentially the amplitude amplification algorithm? — glS 19 mins ago
12:06 PM
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by Ebtehal Ali
yes, is there any gate or circuit can do that? — Ebtehal Ali 20 mins ago
12:31 PM
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by Mark S
You could invert about the mean. This is tagged grovers-algorithm. What do you know of Grover's algorithm? Are you getting confused about a specific step? — Mark S 10 mins ago
1:21 PM
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by Jarn de Jong
Welp, yes, sorry for that. My bad, I didn't really check the link, this renders this answer obsolete! — Jarn de Jong 13 mins ago
 
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2:36 PM
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by StarBucK
After having read this I still don't get how it is obvious that X4X5X6X7 (I take this example) stabilize the code space. In your answer you seemed to use the fact you know what the code space looks like noticing that X4X5X6X7 applied on $|0_L\rangle$ gives $|1_L\rangle$. What perturbs me is that if we talked about Z4Z5Z6Z7 operators, I would directly see the link with parity check matrix as their eigenvalues give the parity of the bits 4 to 7 exactly like the first line of parity check matrix. But the X operator are not diagonal in the 0/1 basis. So I don't get... — StarBucK 17 mins ago
 
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8:26 PM
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by Matthew Stypulkoski
The general reason is the fact that the real devices introduce noise. Some of the reasons I listed are components of noise. The gate and readout errors exist because of the noise created when applying gates and measuring respectively. Granted, decoherence and relaxation are more related to the qubit itself, but I felt the need to list them as they are still very important factors to remember when using the real devices. You are right though, I could have worded my answer a little better. — Matthew Stypulkoski 1 min ago
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by user1319236
First you say The main difference between simulator outcome and real backend outcome is the effect of noise, and then you say it's a set of reasons ( the cited 4 ). Is it the 4 reasons altogether that make the difference in outcomes from simulator and rea backend ? — user1319236 22 mins ago
 
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11:46 PM
[ Boson | Higgs ] New comment posted by Mark S
Your metrology example reminds me that the emission spectrum of a lowly hydrogen atom acts a bit like a quantum computer to "solve" nontrivial eigenproblems associated with spherical harmonics, in much the same way that couscous on a metal sheet acts as a computer to "solve" nontrivial eigenproblems in (planar) harmonics. — Mark S 13 mins ago

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