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20:00
"oh computer stuff, he he, I liked computers as a kid, he he"
I guess that makes sense
Also interestinger all of his rep was gained before the monica sitch and he hasn't done anything worthy of rep since then
@ballBreaker I just saw his posts, and the timing, my theory is that he posted there to get used to the platform
we should all mass downvote his content
doesn't work JBIS
yeah they have some algys for that kind of thing
20:01
they have algorithms to catch that sort of thing
If we believe enough anything is possible
anyway, I have to head out to get lunch, and then there's an all-hands all afternoon
so see you guys later
adios carlios
cya carl, have fun
also jinx
Tim
Tim
@Mehdi xDD
20:03
You owe me a pop
Tim
Tim
the he he hahahahahaha
It was well done Mehdi
it puts a nice imagery
yeah the dumb laugh :D
I cant takl gud
Tim
Tim
I imagine them as the kind of person that creeps around the shitting log
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20:04
Hahahaha
Making people uncomfortable, I can already imagine all the complaints
I honestly just hope they don't touch the chat because you can't sell that to the Enterprise, oh wait - they might wanna sell online support :D "like slack but with needs fixing your stuff"
Tim
Tim
mehdi XD look at your screen. Last time they touched chat was 1997
hahaha
yeah unless some revenue comes from chat I doubt SO2020 is going to do anything about it
listening to the podcast, again all about the business side
@ballBreaker 1 intrusive looping auto-playing video ad of 1min for 2 messages posted!
Tim
Tim
20:08
if anything they will shut down chat because 1) it costs money to keep it around 2) every question asked in chat is a question not posted on the site
yeah exactly tim
and also it's the least inclusive area of the site
and most prone to PR BS
we are inclusive
Tim
Tim
took me 3 or 4 years to find out that chat exists
that's also true, there is the point of nobody really knowing it exists
@Tim he probably wasn't briefed about it during his onboarding XD
20:11
@Mehdi haha yeah once you get accepted in
I just think in general, the chat is less inclusive than the main website since there is more user control (and less moderation)
however, there are some rooms that are really risking to screw this all over, I saw some weird shit in the trash this afternoon
super interesting
@Mehdi yeah definitely
what is @nyconing doing over in the trash
;)
@Ahmad LSD? Shrooms?
yeah
20:13
you know what I'll click it and fin dout haha
@ballBreaker my guess it's that it's their bot being abused by retards
@Mehdi That was my best guess too
which I think is something we might wanna be proactive against with all the bots in the room
Tim
Tim
true
@JBis and @nyconing would it be possible to disable the "google" command or anything on which the bot has no control over the output? thanks
20:14
@Ahmad microdosing is pretty awesome, I'm glad that researchers have been allowed back into drug research w/ psychadelics
Tim
Tim
also reason 1 why not to run a bot on your own account
do you microdose?
Yeah I found it weird she has a bot on her account
confuses me sometimes
@Ahmad I have before, but not for that long, and just for fun
I know someone who microdoses LSD everyday though
at the risk of looking authoritarian, I don't wanna take the risk of something like this happening here, so i will shutdown your bot @nyconing
every day sounds dangerous
20:16
!~die
@Mehdi I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Mehdi
would you not build an insane tolerance
Tim
Tim
oof
sorry, what?
Tim
Tim
mehdi are you gonna let a bot talk to you like that
ban, ban, ban!
20:17
@Ahmad That would be my assumption, at least with shrooms that's definitely the case because its a poison
I did it for a week and had to keep upping it each day
interesting, every day or every other day?
I've heard of people doing every 3 days
@Mehdi James doesn't have a google command. And what do you mean? Like disable echo command?
@Tim hahaha, no not at all XD I'm really considering that, if they don't respond in the next couple of hours given it's 4h15am over there
For that week I did it everyday just to see what it would be like, it was.. interesting lol I didn't have to work thankfully otherwise I wouldn't have don eit
@Mehdi Also, if someone is abusing the bot you can ban them.
20:18
|| google "IS james right or wrong"
^yeah doesn't show results
the friend of mine who told me about it said that he was actually more productive
so you can apparently work with it
Tim
Tim
also authoritarian is good. Murat will be proud
yeah I think it's the display of results where it gets hairy
previous bot in Java room had a urbandictionary that pasted the results and you can imagine how bad that is
@Ahmad yeah I had more brain energy for sure, I just wouldn't want to be around people too much
20:20
gotxha
@JBis we cannot watch the room h24, so something like that, that could happen wouldn't be appreciated. Though most members of our room are not dumb to do that, but it's a big risk to take
@Tim 😂😂😂😂
Hmmmm... I think I'm with JBis on this one, but I know where you're coming from.. but in my eyes as long as it's not posting out results into here than there isn't really anything wrong with the bot
If a user is going to put in a NSFW google into here, it's likely that same person would googl eit themselves and post the link
Tim
Tim
I was gonna give my opinion but sometimes I forget I'm not the boss anymore. You just do you :) going great so far
please give your opinion, Tim
I trust your judgement :D
opinions are like kittens Tim
put them in a box and give them away for free
or take them outback with a shotgun if that's your approach to kittens
Tim
Tim
20:23
:thonking:
@Mehdi The only problematic command I think would Wikipedia but they do a decent job of prevent explicit content in the og tags
some farm kid in highschool told me how his cat had kittens, and his dad took them out back with a shotgun so I'll never really get over that
what the fuck is wrong with you JBis, delete that shit !
What?
1 message moved to Trash can
20:25
there was nothing explicit there
can you scream that word in your classroom? is it SFW in an office?
Tim
Tim
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
@Mehdi im torn on this
I think I can get away with saying porn in the office
@ballBreaker when you're on company network, all the stuff posted here goes through the filters, so even just a hyperlink posted with some weird keywords go there
hmm that's true, didn't think of that aspect
20:26
what was your opinion again, Tim? :D
Tim
Tim
iron fist
I'm going to assume based off the idea that there was only one bot in here originally, run by tim himself. That his opinion is ^
I agree Tim
Tim
Tim
originally we had rahav's bot
but it sucked
Tim
Tim
20:28
then there was mine. To be fair it also sucked
@Tim bot is redundant
Tim
Tim
james looks a bit better performance wise but less useful
@Mehdi Sorry.
@nyconing I will revoke your access because your bot can be abused and you're not here to disable it. Feel free to request access again when you disabled it. Thank you for your understanding.
Tim what would you like to be added? I offered to add the reject and welcome messages but y'all said you didn't need.
20:29
Just kick him
When do we get the Norris command back? That's all I really care about
I'll get around to writing a usable bot in go, someday
Tim
Tim
yeah same here, in rust
If a woodchuck could chuck chuck norris then how many norisses could alanis morisset chuck
@Mehdi Is this settled or would you still like me to remove a command?
Tim
Tim
20:30
is that a drug joke?
@JBis np, sorry for being carried away and being rude with you
I was trying to do a Norris command without knowing what a norris command was
Oh well, I'm off to uni, have fun kicking out JBis and nyconing
@RaghavSood leave
Tim
Tim
yeah, shoo
20:31
@JBis just the ones looking up stuff online please, until we figure out a way of sanitizing the stuff that get posted
I'm not sure all of you know but there were a few incidents in the past where chatrooms got closed because of a few deranged individuals, that's the reason I take this seriously, and because most of us open the chat at work :) I don't enjoy taking out the fun out of the room otherwise
Tim
Tim
@JBis I don't care :) sorry to be blunt. I just come here to have some fun with all of you
|| ballBreaker
Tim
Tim
my caring days are in the past
for the record, I think it's exceptional that you are doing the things you are doing at your age
@Mehdi I'm going to disable wiki for here for now.
MDN isn't really an issue
@JBis thank you
|| wiki Android
Mehdi told me not to tell you.
5
XD
Tim
Tim
nice!! dominance asserted
20:38
Hahaha
How do we get Mehdi as a microservice
Which API did you use to interface with Mehdi
I'm less funny when I try to be smart
@ballBreaker I heard your company needed a 1500$/day consultant to migrate some of your projects?
it was actually 1500 rupees
still interested in upgrading our Java apps?
eh, who dis?
xD
new outlook on life, who dis?
20:43
fuck Google. Let me use the god damn browser I want.
Tim
Tim
lol
I have been using lately qwant.com
Tim
Tim
any of you ever played skyrim til like end game
Tim
Tim
can you get by with just combat and not training any secondary skills
20:46
few times I think
secondary like sneaking, lockpicking etc?
Tim
Tim
I am here to hack and slash people up, I don't care for smithing or whatever
don't want to learn how it works, sure as shit don't want to grind levels
Yeah you can get by fully without it
Tim
Tim
can you find good gear in game or do you have to make it
I think IIRC the best items in game you can't make
Tim
Tim
cool T to the Y
20:48
Unless you totally max something out like enchanting
N to the P brother
Tim
Tim
nah I just wanna do some quests and go on random treks
fight whatever I come across
totally reasonable tim
and fully do-able
I think the main thing you'll miss out on is leveling up as much but that's probably better because if you focus on smithing, max it out, and level up TOO much then the enemies outscale your abilities
so if anything you might be better off
(doing as you want to do)
:48401983 also yes
I have returned
great thanjs
@RaghavSood thought you went to uni :D
20:52
I am in uni
so why are you here?
Having the escooter thing speeds things up
go back to class peasant
Because I can
I just took a swig of cough syrup and looked at the bottle and it expired in 2013
20:53
pay attention when the prof is talking!!!!!
am I going to die
There is no prof here
It's a summer program
in January?
Southern Hemisphere
ah.. XD
20:56
laughs in flat earth view where earth is cut at the equator leaving only the north
laughs in forced jokes that make em not funny
southern hemisphere is just on the other side of the flat earth
it's on the bottom , that's why everything is upside down there
that reminds me of the time someone complained because the printer was printing things "upside down"
its paper, turn it around god damn it
If you rotate your eyes 180 degrees, will you see things upside down?
no
I mean ya at first
but your brain will correct
Don't we see things upside down but our brain fixes it
20:59
We don't see things
We just think we see things
Raghav go back to class
the neurons in eyes are really cool actually, in my neural net class we built an eye model
basically layers feeding into the next all that had a specific task (identify lines, identify curves, combine lines, identify edges, etc)
There was some science justifying that model but I forget that bit
Again, no class
I'm done with classes
If you ever have the chance to take a class on NN's I highly highly recommend it
only if you're comfortable with math though
21:02
that gave me anxiety for some reason
insane shot though
how
When does one realises they have a gift whatsoever? I'm still waiting... :D
Tim
Tim
XDDDD
> I don't even know what the goal of this game is, but that looked impressive as heck.
>> It's curling for people that don't have both ice and friends with brooms.
It's curling for people that don't have both ice and friends with brooms. is how I read this lol
Tim
Tim
it is funny that I found a bunch of shouts already but have not reached the part of the story that explains
21:07
XD
21:27
oh nice an error in my HTML but not my Java, this should be fun to debug.. not
Nice, if I add a linebreak between my <div> </div> calls, the error moves
I do not know how JSP works what is this
isn't it just like php? templating the page with data
It's java and javascript embedded into HTML
not sure what php looks like but I hope not like this
 <div> some row </div>
<div> some column </div>
shit
PHP looks like shit
I changed that to this
what hte hell
<div> some row </div>

<div> some column </div>
I added a linebreak and it physically moved where my error is lol
I'm just looking for a php code in google image that shows how code works in HTML, and I don't find anything related to that, as if the only purpose of php wasn't that XD
21:38
meaning the java and the html aren't even sequentially compiled
@codeMagic 😂😂😂😂
The more I work in Flutter the more I'm liking it
here is an example mehdi
that's actually the most sensible part
forgot to fudge one variable lol
that's rough to look at
Yeah I mean light-mode aside it's a big pain
21:43
Honestly, and this is going to sound and feel wrong, PHP is easier to look at
@DaveS nice! for a new android project?
It's just <? code ?>
iOS actually
but I'm testing and building on Android for now
game deving sucks
@codeMagic yeah I just googled and much prefer php haha
the combo of CSS, HTML, JS and Java is just way way too much
It's like 4 syntaxes living under one roof
21:48
use node then its just 3
wait a tick
there looks to be an auto generated stub class for this JSP
I have docUpload.jsp and I'm getting a null pointer in _docUpload.java
@JBis I wish we were current
our newest product is, and they brought an external consultant on and I haven't touched it
and it makes me sad
@JBis Is there really a thing like that for node? I'm actually not sure how that would even work.
Like what?
Bb, try to start using node. Its really great.
Where you end up with 3 syntaxes in the same code.
i just wish they used a language other than dart
21:52
What do you mean? In a single project you could have HTML, CSS, JS.
But aren't you talking about how JSP has all of that conjumbled together?
Idk have java's shitty design. I know that with a node project everything is seperate as it should be.
Tim
Tim
lol
Oh. Definitely thought you were saying the opposite.
I apologize. I over estimated Java's design choices.
I thought bb meant 3 syntaxes in the same project not in the same god damn file.
21:56
hahaha yeah I deleted the picture
Thats some php shit right there
Here's a sexy snippet I found just for you
I think I would prefer to create ugliness with a language designed for ugliness than one that wasn't.
@ballBreaker yum
The benefit of PHP
21:58
@trevor-e Darts features are actually part of what makes it nice to develop in
I haven't worked with PHP before so I have to assume it's better than this
the widget tree can be a bit large but you can easily break out chunks into sibling classes
if I can find that generated .java file I might be able to actually figure this out

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