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new silicon valley episode today
at 4am
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Fragmented - Android Developer Podcast: 179: Kaushiks Top Tips For Giving A Technical Talk
posted on October 28, 2019 by shows

So Kaushik is speaking at the Mobilization conference in Poland and instead of practicing the talk alone in his hotel room, he decided to record this episode on how he writes a technical talk.

 
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06:48
o/
Tom
Tom
hi
07:39
No.
07:53
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!! :D
@Feeds cc @AdamMc331
left my sweater too close to the kitchen
just noticed it smells to cooking oil.
D:
Gift it to your least favourite coworker
(Warren)
i'll have to keep in mind to always open the kitchen windows
08:21
oh boi
that would be problematic if I lived there D:
BOOOOOOOOOOOOON - baguettes through the door -JOUUUUUR TOUT LE MONDE
@W0MP3R why
grabs a baguette for breakfast
finally, proper bread
'cause I woudn't notice the smell, so I woudn't open the windows :O
(and would go around the world smelling like a fried potato)
08:41
Best not move to Ireland then
why?
They have a history with potatoes
Cause Irish love potatoes
Seems like a nice place enough, tho
The Great Famine (Irish: an Gorta Mór [anˠ ˈɡɔɾˠt̪ˠə ˈmˠoːɾˠ]), or the Great Hunger, was a period of mass starvation and disease in Ireland from 1845 to 1849. With the most severely affected areas in the west and south of Ireland, where the Irish language was dominant, the period was contemporaneously known in Irish as An Drochshaol, loosely translated as the "hard times" (or literally, "The Bad Life"). The worst year of the period was 1847, known as "Black '47". During the famine, about one million people died and a million more emigrated from Ireland, causing the island's population to fall...
08:45
sup peeps
Hiya Ivan!!! :D
wow i just tried dark theme for the ide
my >brain soul hurts
Why?
Dark theme is love, dark theme is life, no?
nah
i started coding in netbeans
there was no dark theme
so im used to white ones
also Visual Studio was only white back in the day
if you like dark themes
this one is pretty cool nordtheme.com/ports/jetbrains
Pfft, I started coding on Notepad
08:56
right, im not counting that :D
"Back in the day"
i did some VB from 5th grade
Ye old day of 10 years ago?
yeah something like that D:
maybe a little bit more
08:57
Used to berate people saying they felt old. Now, I joined the dark side
(And I piss my elders off when I say it)
Tom
Tom
I have compressed folder with .jpg, can I show slides from compressed folder in windows 10? I don't see that option, some lady claims everywhere where she appears people launch slides from compressed folder
also, some of .jpg seem to be damaged, can't unpack them
double click on the image
windows will usually unpack the zip into the temp folder so you can preview the stuff
Tom
Tom
I double click image, click 3 dots, then I have a presentation, but it slides only one image
brb
Use linux
09:10
uWu
I must consume
@MehdiB. Hello Mehdi
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recent drama, I missed it on friday. I think it was not posted yet
@ColdFire
that issues is still going on!
has SO not replied and fixed it? is she moderator again?
@RaghavSood dark days :(
09:19
Worry not, you can buy a lot of potatoes with BTC after the last couple of days
Yep this is true
I speak only the truth.
@Raghunandan yes, no and lol
Room 15 at Droidcon London 2019
@AdamMc331 Ed and myself
I've now met 4 room 15 members \o/
09:23
Those are rookie numbers
I've met... more
lmao washingtonpost @DaveS hope you are enjoying the washington post :p
@IvanMilisavljevic darcula theme is awesome
@TimCastelijns yes i saw it
@MarkO'Sullivan nice picture :D
@Nyakouai Hello! :D
how is everyone doing this fine morning?
@MarkO'Sullivan wow nice markyyy
i hope you didn't drown adam in the lake
How many you met @RaghavSood?
Thanks @MehdiB. and @ColdFire
@ColdFire I haven't seen adam online since that pic was made
09:34
lmao
I'd need a nap, a coffee, a hug and a year of paycheck to be good, but fine otherwise
we need to get the CIA involved then fast
that is a lot of stuff to ask , nya
Tom
Tom
@IvanMilisavljevic I can't launch presentation from this temp, but whatever, lady is gone (and looks like you need unpack first for slides)
ty
@MarkO'Sullivan I've met... Ahmad, Carl, Adam, Tristan, Kcoppock, Glitch, Macarse, Anubian
kcoppock interesting name
09:39
@ColdFire Medhi asked the question, I'm just stating my list of demands. I will only shoot the hostage if you don't comply
@TimCastelijns he was still fine when he left Droidcon o_O
So you guys got him after he left, that narrows down the timeline
Ohhh he went off to see a friend, I knew he should have came to the bar with me!
@MarkO'Sullivan mean you did something after he left driodcon?
damn sneaky :/
To be fair, Death is probably an old friend for Adam after the lake
09:42
xD
Nice mark. I see lot more people attending dev conferences and meetups
Sadly, they're mostly a waste of time
How is that raghav??
Yeah Droidcon London was at the same time as Android Dev Summit - so the timing wasn't great and as a result some of the speakers who are normally there at Droidcon couldn't go
09:43
Mostly marketing talk, not much substance in most cases
and the GDE meetup event was also very shortly after Droidcon London
Not always. You can skip those talks.
Yes, but I'd rather not make the effort is most of them are like that
@RaghavSood marketing talk? Not sure I seen any of them ... which conferences have you been to?
Not saying all conferences are useless
Just most of them
09:44
You need to come to Droidcon London and preach the word of crypto
@MarkO'Sullivan It's not as common for Android, but still happens, but it is super common for ML/AI/Crypto/many other fields
every talk is a marketing talk bro
Most talks and booths wind up being "we gave this normal thing a fancy name and $$$ enclosure, buy our subscription/fund us/let us take your money for a presale and never ship it"
@RaghavSood yeah I heard DevCon5 was filled with other companies trying to promote their blockchain
09:45
i agree with raghav lately i see a lot of marketing and less technical and related stuff
@RaghavSood where you just wanna tell the speaker: would you just shut up and tell me how you built this bro
might be different for UK ofcourse
Which is weird because it's supposed to be all about ETH
@RaghavSood I believe this is called a scam
Imagine paying money for a conference ticket and having to sit through that ... I'd be annoyed too :D
Not really, that's pretty much all of b2b companies, but they don't usually masquerade as innovations
09:47
Traditional b2b companies straight up tell you "you can do this in house but we have an SLA and people you can blame when it breaks"
ML/Crypto companies will tell you "Our custom Blockchain 567.0 Neural Net runs only on ASIC machines custom built for us" when in reality they're running an ETH private network off an old desktop PC
I went to a conference a couple of weeks ago organised by Prezi, and the bar was quite high, I wasn't expecting it to be this interesting tbh, speakers were going in depth then attended a 20min offline qa session at their stand etc... it was pretty cool
I mostly just look up interesting talks after the fact and go through slides/transcripts/watch at 2x. Events are just a networking thing for me at this point
wow that is ponzi scam raghav
yeah events are mostly for networking for me too
But most of the talks are available on YouTube or somewhere on the net
I don't pay to network, I pay to learn
09:50
Yup, people usually aren't tho
I also don't pay to go to conferences :P
Not myself, anyways
Usually go from work/get in somehow
On a totally unrelated note, lockpicking is a fun hobby
Agreed
You picked it up recently?
Off and on over the last few years
lockpicking?
Just got a new pick set after a two year break after I had to leave my old one behind in the US once they caught on to me
what games are you playing lol?
09:52
Opening locks without the key (preferably your locks)
No fun in it if they're your locks
@Nyakouai "preferably" XD
Side note, it's scaringly easy to do
You spelt "profitable" wrong
I could pick other locks, but then it would be breaking and entering I think?
09:53
It's only wrong if you get caught
That applies to most laws
Meh
Not much to gain by opening locks nowadays
Plus, most locks have evolved to ruin the fun of honest lockpickers
All the more fun to pick those
Although I'm not that good
But luckily most people are cheap, and don't get the good stuff
You can pick flat-key locks with the usual tools?
09:56
I can't :D
But most people don't install decent ones :D
So it evens out
I meant theoretically
what locks you guys pick?
@RaghavSood that's what Rickyism says XD imgur.com/a/N8qTTJf
house? treasure? bicycle?
Locked ones
10:00
lol
House, bicycle, padlock.. Some installed on old motorbikes
Letterbox, old safes
(Of course, only when I own the lock or have been allowed by the rightful owner, and only for practice and fun)
Good save
Honestly, it's really an easy skill to learn
Has anyone seen a good summary of Android Dev Summit?
yes
- What’s New in Jetpack Compose (41min) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtm2h-_sNDQ&list=PLWz5rJ2EKKc_xXXubDti2eRnIKU0p7wHd&index=7
- Going Edge-to-Edge with Gesture Navigation (20min) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moYIjqFMi0o&list=PLWz5rJ2EKKc_xXXubDti2eRnIKU0p7wHd&index=11
- LiveData with Coroutines and Flow (18min) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8ppnjGPAGE&list=PLWz5rJ2EKKc_xXXubDti2eRnIKU0p7wHd&index=13
- WorkManager: Beyond the Basics (18min) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz0z694SrEE&list=PLWz5rJ2EKKc_xXXubDti2eRnIKU0p7wHd&index=17
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this is my list
10:04
wow that is a big list timmy
well you know what they say about men with big android dev summit 2019 lists
thx mehdi
👌
just wait until he finds out those are all links to rick astley
next level ricking XD
had to check the first video to make sure it's not 😂
10:08
its no links to rick
They all look like links to a same playlist. So unless Tim is devious enough to make a 20-ish items playlist of Rick Astley... Hold on...
only a madman would do that
(God, now the song is stuck in my heaf, fuuuu...)
the index is different
exactly only a madman can link so much rick astley
thanks for confirming what Tim said, CF
10:11
CF would probably be the easiest room member to replace with a text generator
not even that hard, just copy past of messages posted by a certain set of members and prepend that with a random "confirmation" expression
Use a random function to choose between that and "xD", "lol"
and for the other half, "indeed", "true", "agreed"
Finally, to pass the Turing test, throw in random, generalized statements that make suspicious political assertions
10:15
@W0MP3R You could automate some of W0mp's answers as well
You have "good morning", "hiya @username" and ":O"
and if someone pings you with the sentiment of disagreeing, just post "haha, I laugh at your ignorance"
"good morning" downplay of the century
my left eye is crying
Want me to copy paste all those caps?
10:18
it hurts
The right one is planning murder?
Please, not the shovel
@MehdiB. No, you need to say "I'm just stating facts"
@W0MP3R Sorry, must be all the onions we had to cut for our panda stew
Quite a task cooking those
@RaghavSood that is adam
i guess that ping was for me x'D
and not for nyakouai
That is correct.
10:20
adam is the twitter meme feed
@RaghavSood sigh that would be liberal thing to do :p
@RaghavSood Good, I was confused for a second
Adam, Tristan, and Ahmad can be replaced by twitter RSS feeds
Do they even make RSS feeds?
adam can be replaced by a twitter bot
@RaghavSood and then just try to gaslight an imaginary peer "people prove my point again and again i love it" :D
10:21
tristan at this point can be replaced by a RSS feed from the google pixel store
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Tristan could also be replaced by nothing
lmao sorry its people live in too much illusion
On average, Tristan does not exist
10:21
see raghav? :D
Who'd be the hardest to replace?
@Nyakouai Lol
tim can be replaced by zucc maybe :thinking:
@RaghavSood bb, the amount of shit-posting he comes up with can't be generated XD
Lies, a feed from 4chan or sketchier subreddits would work
5
10:24
lmao
bb can be replaced by a tinder bot
I wonder if Mehdi trained a model with our message history what would come from it. We all have plenty of data to feed it
I actually think it's a brilliant idea Tim
that could be a very bad idea, bots dont understand sarcasm and half the things said here are sarcastic
I wonder if this transcript is considered public or actually the property of the users
Probably under CC3/4
10:29
it's actually an awesome idea XD
CC4 now i guess
imagine segmenting parts of the transcripts to stay on context, msg1 => replies 1, 2, 3
someone was going to sue them over cc3 to cc4
@MehdiB. And that's how the Friend Computer begins
I had to google it :D
10:37
@TimCastelijns great list - thanks!
@TimCastelijns are you going to jetpack compose?
where is it?
and when
use*
yes
everybody will use it
seriously?
what does it fix?
10:52
it will fix everything that it was designed to fix, provided that said fixes are correctly implemented
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like?
I don't know man, but it looks cool
like a 1000 other cool features?
maybe like cool databinding ?
11:15
@ColdFire understatement
yeah
11:43
@TimCastelijns 😂😂😂
@TimCastelijns yep it'll fix those Android developers who are stubborn and refuse to accept that Flutter's way of coding is best :D
I had a good laugh the other day at a tweet which said SwiftUI is going to kill React Native
I need to learn and commit to a full-fledged enterprise backend framework, currently hesitating between Play and Spring
12:08
@MarkO'Sullivan lol its not really
@ColdFire then why's both Apple and Google advocating for the same declarative coding style with SwiftUI and Jetpack Compose?
because they are both retarded? :p
@MehdiB. we're currently using Spring
btw on a serious note, i dont see declarative coding as bad or good , its adds to the already one, best in coding is very subjective to begin with
btw google also use mCoding :p
12:29
@MarkO'Sullivan you tried it? do people feel productive using it? does it have a lot of "magic"?
mornight folks!
13:00
@MehdiB. i'm not using it but the company I work at is :D
ah :D
plans for today: paperwürk
13:21
sounds boring
13:44
ello o/ mornings
What?
Ball so early?
Or did Raghav finished his bot?
early?
I'm kinda late tbh haha
bb, status update in 30min?
xD crabs

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