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Fragmented - Android Developer Podcast: 172: Coil Image Loading Library with Colin White
posted on August 12, 2019 by shows

In this episode Donn and Kaushik sit down with Instacart Engineer Colin White to discuss a new image library he has created called Coil.

 
 
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morning!
 
8:18 AM
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Online since 12-08-2019 08:19 (UTC). Running on develop@355b70d. Uptime: 0h
 
running locally. See how that goes
 
ok
 
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9:42 AM
For so long I ran away from ConstraintLayout, now I am adopting my project to it. Should have done it earlier :/
 
yeah it's the shit
 
@TaseerAhmad How do you decide if you need it or not?
UI complexity? or do you replace plain LinearLayout stuff too?
 
are you making an app? --> you need it
 
so everywhere.
 
no usually as a replacement for nested layouts
 
9:53 AM
I try to use it if I am 6 level deep, 10's a warning. So, maybe.
 
I use it already for 2 or 3 deep
 
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@rupinderjeet A replacement for nested layout, also 'helps' remove useless parents/views
I have been able to slightly improve app UI load times with constraints
@underscore Use gist or other tool to post code
Constraint layout is like a relative layout but also takes job of a LinearLayout, it's all about how you make constraints
 
10:06 AM
I guess, don't know how would I know that it "improved app UI load times".
 
But reasonable, will try to use them more, sometimes it gets very complex
 
for me using CL is more about having a more readable and maintainable xml file
 
Well, generally there are few tools you could measure with, first tool to figure out how your UI is performing is to check for overdraws
 
I always have to depend on Design thing, I wish I could do CL in xml as fast as I write LL.
 
10:08 AM
@underscore please read the room rules or I will revoke your access
 
cl is actually much easier to work with, its like tying up views together with springs and ropes
 
design tool adds a bunch of useless attributes, like absolute positioning
 
But yeah, CL is not a final nail to the coffin, it's all about your UI style
 
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come back when you can read
 
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10:12 AM
wait what?
 
hello
 
@underscore not sure who removed your access but I agree. You don't do what we asked you to do so you lost your privilege to talk here. Come back next month when you learned to behave
 
I did it to save you some time
 
thanks
 
10:17 AM
How is it actually possible that the statusbar height changes drastically on different devices, isn't the height adapting itself?
 
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@Alan because of notches and stuff, also the status bar is different size depending on android api level
 
xD
 
10:59 AM
anyone ever used synthetic as a findviewbyid replacement in a flavored build? Because it is ALWAYS packaged with flavor name... so I can't use it in the "main" classes. Anyone an idea for me?!
 
11:17 AM
a nap would be decent right now, time to get a coffee
 
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@TimCastelijns The smallest instance size on GCP is in their "always free" tier
Pretty sure the bot can run on that too
 
@RaghavSood XD
 
11:56 AM
A nap is always decent even with coffee via infusion
 
@RaghavSood but that is the sandboxed env right
you can't use sockets there
 
Pretty sure you can
It's just a regular vm
Just a bit small on the hardware resources, but still plenty for a bot I reckon
 
12:14 PM
no it's sandboxed
maybe it changed in the recent years but you could never just open a socket and listen for traffic on gae managed
 
It's not app engine
Regular Google Cloud Compute Engine
 
ok let me check
you got a link? I'm not seeing it on cloud.google.com/compute/vm-instance-pricing
 
material FAB causes classCastException when adding to a layout, I searched it and most searches reveal that this is an error related to Android Studio. Anything I can do on my end? :/
 
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
 
> You're eligible if you - Have an upgraded billing account. An upgraded account is ready to be charged for use, as opposed to a free trial only account.
 
Yeah because everything you do that exceeds the limits of the free forever program is billed normally.
If you can ensure that that won't happen, you're good I guess.
 
12:41 PM
Eid Mubarak Guys
 
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o/
Zucc is back
 
1:35 PM
running locally for part of the day
 
Morning everyone o/
 
Hi everyone, I have a question that could have many answers, but I'm looking for the best practice here if there are any! What would you do if you have a sticky foreground service which could have some data which the service is processing and you need to grab the data being processed in one of your data repositories and merge it with some other data source?
How the communication will happen between the data repository and the service and where will you keep the data which is being processed in the service?
 
Database
 
1:53 PM
ummm the thing is that the process here is a kind of in-memory thing and I'm not sure about using a database at this stage. it's an uploading service, I am using database after the upload is successful though to persist the item
 
what processing data are you than talking about?
 
I didn't want to flood the question with unnecessary info, by processing data I meant uploading some files to the backend
 
Closing as too broad, you've defined broad areas of your application with little implementation detail, it's hard to say what works without knowing what you're doing
 
2:13 PM
 
what makes an indeterminate progressbar grow and shrink in size?
 
how much it's turned on
 
perhaps the minHeight/maxHeight, minWidth/maxWidth properties of it?
 
2:31 PM
> This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain
And a hundred percent reason to remember the issue id of the official Android bug reports
 
write them a nasty mail
 
3:00 PM
do you guys dump all styles in 1 file or separate them by component or something?
 
3:15 PM
Yes
 
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u r vry gud i m new dev lol
 
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3:26 PM
I have read and understood the rules.
 
^
Oh ok
 
Thank you and Welcome!
 
And @TusharSharma
 
@MehdiB. Who brought Zucc back to life
 
his master
 
3:27 PM
No, really
 
Zucc's master
 
Who is Zucc's master
 
Tim
 
running locally
will shut down soon
<style name="ProgressBar">
    <item name="android:progressDrawable">@drawable/progressbar</item>
    <item name="android:indeterminateDuration">200</item>
</style>
 
@TimCastelijns For good or are you moving it?
 
3:29 PM
I set this style to a progressbar, why is it not applied
 
voicing jbis
 
yes I moved it to the trash can
 
why :(
 
3:33 PM
How much is it to run?
 
Set up a paypal, I'll donate
 
it's $6.05 per month
 
@R15-Zucc We will miss you 😥
 
@SnakeException thank you Snake!
 
3:34 PM
lol mehdi
 
Yeah I'm sure you could get that from donations.
 
lol
@MehdiB. Why lol
 
2 mins ago, by SnakeException
Set up a paypal, I'll donate
 
But he deleted "jk"
 
(He agrees with setting up PayPal. Not joking. And he will donate)
 
3:36 PM
in friendly bin, 2 mins ago, by SnakeException
jk
 
that's another room, doesn't count
 
^
 
No idea what you're talking about
 
How does it cost so much if its locally hosted?
 
3:37 PM
it takes 1 min to boot up and my hourly rate is $363
2
 
I shut down the cloud stuff and run it locally now, but only during office hours
 
also I don't want to maintain it anymore. The code is shit although to be fair most can be removed since few features are used
 
Ok. Maybe another RO could run?
 
3:43 PM
ahmad said he would
 
24 mins ago, by R15-Zucc
@TusharSharma welcome. Please start by reading the rules and confirm you have read them before saying anything else.
 
I have such a weird issue right now.. I have to modify HTML in my .XSL file so there is no differences between opening this bullshit legacy webapp in Chrome and IE .. but my dev page displays differently than my UAT page even though the source is 100% the same o.o
So I guess I need to F12 the UAT version, edit it to look how I want it.. then make those changes in my source
I'm assuming it must have something to do with the CSS, but not sure why it would be different on the server than on my dev... v0v
legacy gunna legacy I guess
 
unlucky
 
Yeah.. Chrome really doesn't like the <th></th> tag, so switching all of those away to <td>
 
3:57 PM
try <sudo th>
 
hehe
 
 
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Hell of a morning. A Semi truck with a high trailer pulled over in front of my house to check his load or something, and ended up catching my internet cable line on his truck. Yanked the whole line off the house until it snapped, and took out one of my gutters in the process, all while I was watching from my living room.
 
Oof
How are you chatting then?
 
I biked into my office
 
Oh
Of course
No internet when you get back huh?
 
@SnakeException He used the truck driver to complete the broken circuit
You don't live as long as Carl without picking up some Macgyver skills
 
5:24 PM
heh
I kinda wish I had, guy was an asshole
 
Lol what was he like
 
Kinda miss dial up lines
Fiber just doesn't have that 48V kick to it
 
No fibre here lol, I can't relate
@CarlAnderson Did you confront him? What did he say?
 
Well, if you're bored and still have a landline, try using a couple of needs to touch the power pins
Bonus points if the phone is ringing at the time, that's when it gets nice and buzzy
 
@ballBreaker rofl
@CarlAnderson shit did you confront him and asked him to pay for the repairs?
 
5:37 PM
@CarlAnderson yikes, gotta bury those lines
 
He's smart, he probably dug a conduit for the lines while... dealing with the driver
 
lol trueâ„¢
 
6:03 PM
The driver called the city power officials, who came by and clipped the line, and he also called the cops to come take a report. He didn't tell me exactly who he was calling, and pretty much didn't want to talk to me.
 
Oof
apparently old people carry a lot of weight xd
 
6:37 PM
You calling Carl fat?
 
xD
 
No lol
 
eh, from his shoes I can understand that. to him you're the angry homeowner who he just pissed off, probably nothing productive will come out of speaking to you.
 
I mean the dude got intimidated
 
@MehdiB. have you seen wu assassin?
 
6:51 PM
@TimCastelijns Is it good?
(if you've seen it)
 
watched ep1 just now. It fucking awful but katheryn winnick so yeah
 
OH damn, Iko Uwais is in that?! definitely going to have to watch it
ah shit
 
lol tim
any good series/anime recommendation?
 
> Remember that this is a chat room, not an anime helpdesk.
 
dragonball z
 
6:54 PM
xD
 
lol tim
 
o/
@ColdFire shin chan
 
ey bakky!
Haven't seen you around much
 
Had busy days
How are you doing?
 
7:10 PM
Pretty decent
I'm putting poor Kassandra down soon though, she's internally fucked
(my car)
 
:(
Buy an '87 t bird! :D
 
hahah naw fuck used cars
they can lick me scrote
I'm just gunna get a dirt cheap Toyota through work
Like the cheapest and worst model of a Yaris
 
That hurts my car heart
@ballBreaker a used BMW is not a fair measure to second hand cars
 
That's true but the idea is tainted in me head
I'm just going to lease a 2020 Yaris for 3 years and get rid of it at the end
 
It's like you'd marry the anti christ himself and then go "man fuck marriages, they all suck"
 
7:14 PM
Like how you did at the end of your last relationship? :D
 
Well and are all women like that?
 
Sorry haha that was a low blow
haha no they aren't
 
Haha I can handle
 
I'll get another used car one of these days
Just not my next one
too fresh
 
I am SOO jealous I wish I could just buy a t bird there
You know how many of the one I am looking for are for sale in entire europe?
1
 
7:16 PM
I figured this time around I would use my awesome corporate discount while I still can v0v
 
v0v?
 
no point working for a car company and NOT getting the good deal
my lazy shrug
 
I am at full aim at the t-bird I even got a new summer job for extra houres
I'm a garbage man this month 😃
 
7:29 PM
jesus haha
 
My school starts at august the 26th untill they can help me again
And my side job has a quiet period due to vacaciones
So I needed work, quickly. Called an agency and within 20 minutes I became a garbage man
 
all this to get a car?
 
no
I don't want to sit at home
plus some extra money is always ok
 
Cars, eh?
 
ahhhh
nice
That makes more sense man
 
7:44 PM
I own a Lexus 350 (hybrid)
 
yuck
 
what year?
 
It's ~3 years old
2016
oops forgot to add RX 350, not 350
 
ah the RX are nice
I thought you meant the IS
or LS
or whatever
 
7:46 PM
ew those suck
 
although I'm pretty sure 2016 is ugly year
ah nah it's not bad
 
80's cars are the coolest
 
but old
and not hybrid
 
Yeah 80s cars are awesome, I like a lot of 90s as well
 
and not good for the environment
 
7:47 PM
If I fart in my car it becomes a hybrid too
 
@SnakeException my 80's vehicle is nothing compared to the ship it once got transported on when it comes to emmissions
 
Global warming: scientist track fish in New York in 1985 and 30 years later they are in Canada. Global warming is real and if you can afford one buy a hybrid or electric car
 
no
the environment is overrated
 
o/ all
 
7:50 PM
Then so are we, since we are a part of it
o/ dave
 
@SnakeException but I'm a hypocrite
So now what must I do?
 
@ballBreaker Just think about this: fish migrated 2000 miles from new york to canada because it's too hot
 
global warming won't be solved until we either have an energy revolution or the cost of emissions is reflected in the market, people are too selfish and will continue to use the cheapest most convenient thing
 
^
like 80's cars
 
eh just compensate with solar panels on your home
having a child is far more taxing on the environment than an old car
 
7:53 PM
I have solar panels
@DaveS can't relate, I don't have any children
 
cars are only part of the problem, the core issue is general power generation via coal
 
@SnakeException who says they are cheap?
 
But take india for example
> people are too selfish
^Dave said
 
well ok
but the fact nobody had to produce/ship a new car for me kinda makes up for it
 
7:56 PM
Well, tbf they weren't that cheap 20 years ago
 
I mean this car is driving for 30+ years now, while your hybrid will be done within 10'ish (it's sales are aligned by hype) and recycling that battery is one poluting job
 
factories > cars
in terms of emmissions
 
until the industries change the problem won't get better
 
^
@MwBakker At least it doesn't pollute as much
 
7:58 PM
not now
 
I'll get an electric car once they are stable enough
and can drive longer distances
 
but it will when the battery needs to be recycled, or end up leaking on a rusty junkyard
 
And 80's car's don't have batteries? cmon dude
 
I mean it's good you take enviroment in consideration ofc
@SnakeException not like hybrid or electric cars, they got simple ones but ofc they also polute
 
get me a hydrogen car
 
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