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12:02 AM
I'm using AVG
Are these apps really worth?
 
 
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1:50 AM
It'll probably be at least another 6 years considering the status
oh, they just added that
 
It's the Google way
Wait until the thing no longer exists
Then mark it as dontfix
 
I'd fit right in. That's what I've been trying to do with tickets I have for our legacy systems
 
2:05 AM
I can't use r15 ChatSE :(
HTH can I "change"(set a new) password for my SO account?
Meh... never mind... I think I should start contributing to the app some day to add google login.
 
 
2 hours later…
4:15 AM
Morning
 
4:48 AM
I made it through the entire thing
it's so good
@RaghavSood LMAO
 
5:09 AM
@CptEric WAT
cc @tim @mark you met??
how did this come to be that's so awesome
 
 
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7:05 AM
@RaymondArteaga you can't . There is an issue on the same on the GitHub repo. What you can do is go too so account and add mail and pwd and allow logging via same
Look at issue 64
Architecture components now support kotlin coroutines.
Looks like google is advocating use of coroutines for everyone
 
@RaymondArteaga not possible
 
The login issue is actually discussesd in issue 17
Lot of typo errors chatting via mobile. I hate the mobile keyboard
 
o/
 
7:28 AM
Anyone ever written a rule engine for evaluating a kv input?
 
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!! :D
 
@Ahmad yeah you should have come
 
7:53 AM
\o
 
8:12 AM
o/
 
8:55 AM
And what does the cf. stand for? I saw you wrote that: cf. Paulie_D's commentTân Nguyแป…n 2 days ago
CF what do you stand for?
 
9:19 AM
morgen, nerds
 
> pirati st pauli
 
since android P you can use constructor injection for platform classes ๐Ÿ˜ฑcan't wait to use that when minSdk is set to 28 in 2045
6
 
example?
 
meanwhile
in the real mobile world
users be like "20% still use 5.x"
 
clients be like "pls 4.4 support"
 
Thats where you charge more $$$
 
@Ahmad sure did, I gate crashed their meetup basically
 
9:51 AM
:D
 
"please, if you're thinking about pre api 21.. what are you doing?" - Ian Lake
 
It's true
I mean the developers who keep supporting early versions are part of the problem
 
of course. But him saying this makes the case that much stronger
"I made this. It's crap, please stop using it"
 
My lil-sis has a 4.4 android D:
 
9:56 AM
wow mark
will you not support the lil sis of womp?
 
you know what to do womp whispers: shovel
 
What is womper's sis name? Wimper?
 
womp4r
6
 
shovel incoming
 
what happens to hot dogs when they get cold? do they become cold dogs? mild dogs? cold hot dogs?
 
10:14 AM
cold dogs ;(
 
@TimCastelijns LOL
 
actually, womp4.4r
 
naming conventions people: BR0MP3R if male, S1SP3R if female.
 
10:53 AM
this guy looks in pain :D
My code is like an avocado; seconds away from a disgusting mess at all times.
 
11:40 AM
 
Whats that
 
muh stats
 
There is no legend
Questions? Answers? Reps?
 
11:55 AM
reps
 
@MuratKaragรถz should we make a custom view to add the missing components? :D
 
You guys are the canvas pros now
 
from this exercise, i concluded anyone can be a canvas pro after 1 exercise XD
the thing that I know close to nothing about is animations
I think implementing this github.com/asyl/ArcAnimator would be a good starting point
 
12:40 PM
let's do it
 
Yes! ๐Ÿ’ช
 
good luck
 
o/
@W0MP3R Install lineage OS for her, please
 
1:42 PM
o/
@TimCastelijns Sorry Tim I have a week vacaction
 
2:12 PM
@Mauker I.... don't know what's that D:
 
@W0MP3R It's a custom Android build
 
@W0MP3R I still had 4.4 custom ROM last year
On my Xperia Pro :D
I miss that phone, I miss qwerty in general
 
What's her phone wompah?
 
this ping sound, one day, will give me a heart attack
an old rock that has whatsapp
jk, it's a huawei but that's all my knowledge
 
o/
 
2:23 PM
\o
 
@grrigore bruh
 
Is there any kotlin native structure that I can use to process data (lets say urls) and it will process any pushed data and when there is no more data to process it will wait for more data?
 
Hmm
Like a stream?
 
mjm, rxjava kind
 
Sounds like a publishsubject from rxjava
haha gotcha
 
2:28 PM
but something I can throttle, for example at 10 utls max at the same time
 
Hmmm
 
is for a lib
should I add rxjava to a lib?
I've never written a lib :(
 
In general you should avoid adding extra dependencies on your library. However, there are a lot of people who provide Rx helper libs that depend on RxJava so it's not unheard of.
 
LIES
 
I want to keep it as simple as I can
 
2:30 PM
Are you in the kotlinlang slack? If you use slack, it would be a good place to ask that question (or on SO, if you can be clear that you're looking for a native alternative to Rx)
yeah that's a good idea.
 
The secret to writing libraries is to write libraries used by your libraries
 
I have only 4 days to impress my possible bosses
 
@AdamMc331 Don't have enough RAM for slack
 
Ah, so this is heading into an interview?
 
2:32 PM
Does it have to be a library? Or is that what you wanted to do?
 
~(-.-~)
 
o/ w0mp
 
It has to be a library
 
hmm
 
Hiya Adam!!! :D
 
2:37 PM
I would suggest contributing to a lib I've worked on but I don't know of a good open issue right now.

What was the lib you wanted to make?
 
libkeystore
3
 
:|
 
@RaymondArteaga yes we call it Channel
 
@TimCastelijns looking for it
 
Adam please step down and hand your kotlin crown to Tim
4
 
Link above ^
hell no
 
that was fast XD
 
you come into my house and attack me like this??!
 
Yes, he had the key
You dropped it while out getting groceries
 
2:44 PM
no need to embarrass adam here. He has not been doing kotlin that much lately, he couldn't have known
 
Channels look very similar to what we have in go
 
Hello Guys I need some help on Circle CI to generate a test coverage report to code climate the build is failing.
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Q: Test coverage report for Code Climate from Circle CI Failed

Lutaaya Huzaifah IdrisAm trying to use Circle CI to send a test coverage report to Code Climate, but, the build is failing with an error. I read about the Circle CI documentation link regarding Android but I couldn't neglect this error. Below is my config.yml file fro Circle CI : version: 2 jobs: build: wor...

 
seems there are no devices connected
circleci doesn't support emulators btw
 
@TimCastelijns this looks tricky... Can a channel keep "asleep" until I send another "object" to work on?
 
2:51 PM
Ok, I'm still into it :D
thanks
 
Use Travis if you want emulators
 
you can implement this any way you like. Why not just use a callback or something, if you don't want to use rx
 
Learning this will take me more than 4 days :lol:
 
So what's the best approach on this, because rather using Travis
?
 
well quit chatting and get to it then
 
3:03 PM
posted on November 14, 2018 by Dan Lew

This year, Google rebranded the support Android libraries to Android Jetpack (aka AndroidX). Particularly pertinant to developers was how they repackaged all the libraries. Not only have their maven coordinates changed, but the package names for every class has changed as well. For example, android.support.v7.app.AppCompatActivity is

 
Circle CI doesn't run emulators, so if you need an emulator, your only option is to change to another CI
If you can manage without the emulator then... remove the emulator code
 
Actually am using Jacoco.
And jacoco seems t need the emulator.
 
Then you need another CI
 
@TimCastelijns Channels are fair :(
I need to deliver results as soon as they are ready
and process concurrently a fixed number of urls :(
although...
 
3:09 PM
Sounds like channels can do that
 
combining them with other coroutines may do...
back to read... c ya in a while
 
In go, you can pass a channel to multiple goroutines, and they can each send their results back to the thing that needs all the data as soon as each individual routine is done
I imagine kotlin does something similar
 
goroutines ? O_o
 
> In go
> goroutines
Doesn't seem like rocket science
 
gocket science
 
3:20 PM
like google's ubuntu customized gubuntu.
 
PaaPs requested access. Rep: 32 - Questions: 16 - Answers: 4 (ratio 4:1)
 
!reject
 
@PaaPs you currently do not meet the requirements to chat here. You can find our requirements in the rules.
 
3:34 PM
uff Stream<String> needs api > 24 :(
 
eLi
Good afternoon Here,
 
Good afternoon Eli
 
eLi
yesterday was my graduation in bc in computer science
12
 
congratulations, nerd
 
Congratulations!
 
3:36 PM
uff Stream<String> needs api > 24 :(
 
repost
 
eLi
Thanks Tim, Mauker
 
congrats. eli
 
eLi
Thanks Raghunadhan
 
congrats!
what is bc?
 
eLi
3:37 PM
thanks Raymon
bachelor
 
Hello, Android!
 
eLi
hello code
 
How are you this morning, eLi?
 
eLi
its 18:40 here code
 
I remember the first thing I did when I graduated was go home and sleep for god knows how long because I was exhausted
 
3:42 PM
i din't work after 2 years of my grad. i quit many jobs. But i spent most of the time touring and in the wild.
 
@eLi that doesn't really answer my question =p
 
if I hadn't worked for 2 years after graduating I'd be living on the streets eating leaves and bricks or something
 
48 days until year's end.
you're welcome.
 
Hello, CA!
 
heya, mauker
 
3:44 PM
@eLi Congratulations!
 
koltin has been updated to 1.3.10 now
 
already?
 
yup
 
eLi
i take my parents to airport, back to sleep from 11:00am till i wake up now
slept for 7 hours
 
@TimCastelijns same, except it would have happened to me earlier, more like "6 months after graduation" XD
 
eLi
3:46 PM
Thanks @MehdiB.
 
:) not anymore mehdi
I am taking a senior custom view implementer position for $25k/mo
3
 
i had full support from my father although i was totally reliant on my dads money at that time.
 
I know 2 guys who are ready to split that amount, Tim
 
you and I?
 
yeah :D
what's your plan now @eLi ? work or more studies?
 
eLi
3:48 PM
does fabric.io create pdf reports?
 
as far as I know, it produces .txt files at least 1.5y ago
 
Ever used TornadoFX Tim?
@eLi Don't forget to migrate to firebase, fabric will only work till 2019
 
is it similar to javafx mauker?
 
@TimCastelijns I misread that ๐Ÿ˜‚
 
eLi
I started with firebase when i was starting to learn android, but firebase suggested to use fabric
 
3:51 PM
@Raghunandan Yes
 
i used javafx like 5 years back.
 
eLi
but am using both in case one fail @Mauker
 
no mauker no clue what that is
 
@TimCastelijns GUI for desktop apps with Kotlin
 
its like a new version of java swing
i used to use java swing for desktop applications.
 
3:55 PM
I used it a lot few years back
(Swing)
 
its similar to android the click listeners and event dispatch thread just like ui thread in android. Even the touch listeners are same. we had drag and drop ui unlike android beginning.
 
I never really had the chance to build a desktop app
 
windows forms baby
 
like the singleactivity architecture pattern we used to 1 parent window and other child windows. so its a lot similar to android.
 
Android didn't reinvent UI patterns, so you can find similar stuff in swing or javaFx
 
3:58 PM
yeah. true.
 
I have built an electron app if that counts as a Desktop app.
 
googling electron, this electron? electronjs.org
 
yes
 
@Mauker you building a desktop app?
 
@MehdiB. basically chrome browser + node.js + some libraries packaged into an exe/msi
it has some nicer features like windows menu support
 
4:04 PM
why is node.js needed in client apps? isn't it a backend framework?
 
you need a server
I'm kinda confused by your question
its basically a chrome browser with a couple more features added
 
why do I need a server if all i wanna build is a client app?
 
node.js is not a server...
 
@MehdiB. technically CptEric is sort of right. Typically node.js is used as a server but in this case it is more intefarec between node.js and the browser
it it isn't just a chromeless browser with node running
@MehdiB. start with this github.com/AJ-TechSoul/ELECTRON-4-PHP
PHP makes it really esay to understand what is going on
 
The JS ecosystem is very confusing
 
4:07 PM
planning a surf trip? :D
 
@CptEric my brother lives there
concert
 
neat
 
the JS ecosystem has some of the most variations of libraries but is confusing
 
yeah
i mean
don't consider it an ecosystem
consider it a messy bobble of stuff.
 
I prefer node.js to python
 
4:08 PM
from front end to backend.
JS is all a geek wants it to be.
 
@WilliamA nice!!! what does it do. I'm writing one now too!
slack on osx is electron
 
most desktop apps are nowadays
 
github's app is electron also
its so much easier then standard developement
 
upvote ^^
 
yeah
anything web based ( angular, react, meteor, wathever shit floats your boat) > native desktop outdated apis and UI elements
 
4:10 PM
I do like flutter tho, needs an xml layout thing tho
VUE ftw!
although vuex kinda makes me lil crazy
 
@petey i did an app for mathics.net
 
i mean nobody on it's sane mind would say " YES, I TOTALLY WANT TO DO AN ASP.NET CLIENT instead of ReactJS + electron"
 
not sure if I still have it somewhere
 
ahh, alegebra stuffs
 
yeah I made a decent front end for it like mathematica
but then it was python + node.js + chrome
so I have may have just trashed the code
I added menus, file open, save as , never managed to get drag and drop open
 
4:13 PM
pretty cool, William A!
 
have you done one?
 
I'm gonna send the gihub to my teacher friend, he migth enjoy tinkering with it
 
the php one?
because the one I did I am frankly not sure where the code is
they changed the mathics front end so some stuff brokje
 
yea, I'm building an electron app out for quality control tool. I basically got tired of waiting in the queue of the my companys overwhelming of a release process to delvier an update or bugfix.
plus, ts or es6 is great! its everything I always wanted when I was a young man.
I'm olds now
 
that is the algrebra software
yes
 
4:18 PM
๐Ÿ˜€ (I love to google things, terms, nouns, jargon, etc)
 
@petey I doubt that will happen :P
 
I'll end with this, I really think node.js/JavaScript is a better first language over Python
but that is JavaScript chat room talk not Android
 
looks like Apple finally reached Samsung Note stage :p news18.com/news/tech/…
 
@petey yay! Another Flutter fan
 
I'm downloading flutter hadn't heard of it
I recall phonegap
 
4:28 PM
@petey you know there's DartVue right?
@WilliamA forget any cross platform nightmares you've experienced in the past and try out Flutter
 
you talk like a salesman :D
 
googling dartvue now
flutter doesnt do web tho
 
dart lol
is this the same dart that was a failure(by market and usage share)
 
@petey probably not very stable but AngularDart 4 is more popular
Flutter doesn't do web but you can share your same core business logic with front end web, back end and mobile with Dart
@WilliamA its popularity has really grown since Flutter
 
I don't care for dart
 
4:33 PM
interesting...
 
so I probably won't boter with it
 
Oh I should add that in addition to web front end, back end, mobile ... desktop support will be coming eventually
I've seen a project on GitHub working on it
not to mention support for Fuschia (whatever that will eventually be used for)
I have seen an app running on a smartwatch too but haven't research that lately to see the status of the project
 
isn't Fuschia still more of a myth
 
cries in crypto
 
Why do you say it's a myth?
You can download the sources and run it yourself
 
4:36 PM
Fuschia will run flutter things, no?
 
I heard rumours Google were really pushing hard for the Google Home Hub to use it
Fuschia has the benefit of being able to run everything Android AND Flutter
 
yea. they wanna stop paying larry ellison (oracle) for java
 
I see its on github but it stil seems more a myth
in terms of practicality and benefits
 
Benefit - removes all link of Java to Google's mobile OS
As Petey says no more paying huge sums of money for licensing Java within Android
 
why is that a benefit
they(Google) won the lawsuit no?
 
4:37 PM
I thought they didn't?
didn't read into it much tbf
 
no they did
Oracle America, Inc. v. Google, Inc. is a current legal case within the United States related to the nature of computer code and copyright law. The dispute arose from Oracle's copyright and patent claims on Google's Android operating system. Oracle had come into ownership of the Java programming language including its patents, documentation and libraries through the language's application programming interfaces (APIs), through its acquisition of Sun Microsystems. Oracle made this information freely available to developers to use, but licensed its standard implementation on various platforms including...
okay so appealed back and some damages
 
and Amazon is ditching oracle by 2020
 
@MarkO why do you need to adopt a a new kernel for language changes?
 
@WilliamA I don't know
 
Good news everyone, I'm turning vegan
 
4:42 PM
@RaghavSood what is your favorite vegan food?
 
Grass
4
 
I go sometimes a couple days
 
It's all I can afford after today
 
I like the butternut squash soup and tomato soup
 
@RaghavSood ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
 
4:43 PM
 
Time for a pillage Raghav, while CF and his knights are away
 
I can't afford pillaging tools
 
Thanks god I spent half of the BTC I own last month :P
 
I just bought a bunch
Wish me luck
 
@RaghavSood lol
 
4:53 PM
@RaghavSood oh man I just seen the market
Markets are red time to buy more! :D
 
I did, markets got redder
 
tbf BTC hit sub $6k
that was always going to trigger a drop in the market
 
cries in poor
 
Raghav any idea what has caused it?
The fall in Bitcoin's price
 
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