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1:29 AM
would you move to sf?
 
I'm at a Mexican joint where the menu has "arroz con pollo" but the fine print says "not served with rice & beans" /me scratch head
 
I think my manager just low key offered me a full time offer in sf
 
What's "low key offered" mean?
 
he's not allowed to give me an offer before my valuation
but he hinted towards it that I could come to sf if I wanted to (as opposed to the germany office)
 
oh yea?
I would definitely take advantage of the inflated salaries
I've been debating if I should move to SF now that I'm single and not as tied down, but all my family & friends are in Boston
 
1:42 AM
@Ahmad No.
 
@trevor-e and inflated rent
 
Dunno, if you're single, you can still save quite a bit more on a bay area salary with roommates
 
I haven't had a roommate for several years. That would be difficult for me.
I have a 2 bed apt all to myself for 750 a month. It's way more space than I really need, but I'm getting used to it
 
you still end up taking home way more
plus maxing out retirement
where do you live CA?
 
2:28 AM
Maybe, but i don't know how to do this. Can u help me to do this. I just don't understand — Vitali Malinovski 1 hour ago
 
@trevor-e yeah kinda feel the same
it's a long way from home
it's even hard to call someone in germany
because the time zone difference is so large
I actually really really like sf tho...
 
You know what they say, Ahmad. sudo usermod -d /usa/sanfrancisco ahmad
Home is where /etc/passwd says it is
 
Working overseas is really good from experience point of view, but not ideal for saving/making money.
 
lmao raghav
you do get paid a lot more here than in germany tho @TelKitty
 
But so are living expenses. SF is a fairly expensive city to live in.
 
2:33 AM
I'd still probably save around $4k a month
I'm saving that much right now even tho I'm an intern
 
o/
 
\o
 
@Ahmad You either have a fairly high salary for an intern or not spending much.
 
a combination of both
 
Being an intern is a lot cheaper than permanently living somewhere
 
2:44 AM
how so
I guess I don't pay insurance
 
You generally spend and accumulate a lot less material stuff when you're constantly moving
Once you start to settle down in one spot, you spend more
Plus, added costs of living in a new country permanently
 
hmm
I already spend quite a bit
dunno man I feel like I can live very cheap
 
Get a permanent job and get back to me in a year on that
 
but what else will I pay for that I'm not paying for rn
did I post this covo yet
 
 
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5:43 AM
@AdamMc331 LIES
 
eLi
morning Guyz
 
morning?
here: 00:44
 
eLi
08:45 here
 
@codeMagic lmfao
 
 
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eLi
7:17 AM
where do i handle start new Intent in M V P ?
 
7:27 AM
\o
 
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!!!! :D
 
eLi
morning
 
7:55 AM
One of my home servers died
 
RIP. when is the service?
 
Never, it will be brought back to life
 
eLi
don't you have backup bro?
 
The data's fine, it's all on a RAID
Although, one of those drives failed too
Good thing it is RAID1
 
eLi
7:57 AM
thank Tim
 
@SurajRao 🤣
this SV reference at dev summit 😅
 
8:13 AM
@SurajRao lol
o/
 
8:30 AM
\o
 
@MehdiB. Boo indeed, once an entire airplane crashed due to metrics failure
o/
I'm at a gf's house with an electric car I had to test
I just figured why it is still in testing fase
Now I am stranded
How are you guys doing?
 
sleepy as usual
 
good as usual
a bit tired too
 
Tried to download own app that have not touched in 5 years from app store and getting this instead:
 
8:42 AM
what did you expect 🤣
 
Expect it to be downloadable but crash on the first touch.
It's there on app store but not downloadable.
 
hmm I don't see why they would let you download it if they can tell it's not gonna work
 
They usually throw app out of the store if it's not going to work
As they did for one of my apps.
I had to update it before it's visible again.
 
9:06 AM
hmm
 
yo nerds
 
sup german nerd
 
there is this arcticle I shared yesterday that is getting a lot of praise left and right and I am trying to follow it now but can't make much sense of it
 
canvas stuff
never liked it
 
I want to learn a bit about it. But this article is so incomplete
yet everyone loves it
 
9:24 AM
Who is everyone
 
^
i have done some canvas stuff before, fun times
 
everyone is 600 nerds on medium and 100 nerds on reddit
 
eh everyone who likes on medium wants to highlight their own post
 
+100 on this subreddit is exceptionally high, which is why I checked it out
o well
 
9:43 AM
i always refer to this youtube.com/watch?v=dLl0ovmta6A for custom drawing on canvas atleast to the get the basics right
 
o/
@TimCastelijns I have no idea
 
there is so much more but the android docs does not contain all the details.
 
@TimCastelijns that looks really interesting
@Ahmad please don't use rn instead of right now ... or if it's React Native, please don't use that either
 
let me know if you can make any sense of it
 
We're going to have to implement a custom graph eventually (unless we find an open sourced one which will fit our needs) so I'm gonna bookmark it
 
Bookmarking that also. Nice find @Raghunandan!
 
yeah
 
@TimCastelijns swatch is a set of color
 
10:21 AM
Skynet - Now here to fix potential bugs: code.fb.com/developer-tools/…
 
LIES
 
I'm on to your plans Raghav Skynet
 
that's nice. Now facebook doesn't just sell your data, it also sells your code
 
lol.
 
me thinks @RaghavSood doth protest too much
 
eLi
10:31 AM
o\
 
\o/
 
10:44 AM
o/
 
how motivated are you today mehdi
 
on a scale of 1 to 10, 6 :D
 
nice :) beat me
 
how would you rate yours?
 
I'm gonna go with 2
 
10:54 AM
I just got at office, arrived at lunchtime haha
They prob think the electric stranding was an excuse now :/
 
Motivation is for noobs
Real developers are always working
 
working requires motivation ==> real developers are noobs?
 
1 trick I found to find motivation is to re watch google IO "damn look at the products they build, better get back to learning or working quickly, to get the out of the way and start working on a side project" :D
 
watching tech video is what I do when I am not motivated 😅
 
any channels you recommend?
 
10:59 AM
we don't use any android elements in our design. Any fancy new things have to be in the code
no I just check out a selection of topics from droidcon and other such meet ups
 
I just finished reading the custom view building article
 
which one
 
oh
what do you make of it
 
just the usage of paths objects, imo this is not the best example to teach drawing with
to learn canvas and paint objects I drew last month a custom view which is a colored rectangular triangle that should always stay stuck to the bottom right of the screen
I didn't know about gradient painting, so I painted it using a loop 😂
 
11:08 AM
I tried to apply this example in a new project, but couldn't do it
 
what's the end result you get?
 
likely because I have near 0 experience with custom views, but also the article's approach heavily revolves around Marker which is sadly left out
no result :D didn't even know what input to use
 
I think the only thing to retain in his article, is the coordinates system + paths
 
I like to play with the code to see what change affects what etc
 
I'll try to make it work on my side
 
11:13 AM
so if you say "below we draw the gradient" and then 10 lines of code with a bunch of seemingly random variables
not saying it's a bad article :P but with my skills I can't do much with it
 
what is the variable "entry"? I see it on the gradient block
 
no clue
> seemingly random variables
I assumed it was markers.first()
 
hmm, I think we need to try to implement each building block ourselves, then intersect with what he has
(a lot of people upvote stuff without really reading, especially when there is code - sort of a marker to never get back to it later)
 
I tried for like 30 mins
author said on reddit that he can't give any more code
but I would like to know what Marker is at least
I thought it would be data class Marker(value: Int, currentPos: Point, targetPos: Point) but it's not
also not sure what a Marker is xD
 
Never worked with diagram libraries?
 
11:26 AM
I think the Markers are the "days" of the weeks, basically a "dot" on that diagram
from his code it looks like you're right indeed: "class Marker(currentPos: Point, targetPos: Point)"
 
I think it's something custom because Point uses int and he uses them as float
 
hello guys good afternoon....have a great day
Anyone know how to resolve facebook haskey error in android?? I tried all the way but not getting solution.
 
no clue what you're talking about
 
@TimCastelijns getting Invalid key when my app is in release mode of facebook login. In debug mode it is working.
Invalide key hash
 
well you need a different one for release
 
eLi
11:45 AM
passed through documents, tutorials, i understood MVP, why cant i turn my project into mvp structure
o/
 
only you can answer that
 
o/
 
I'm not kidding. We cannot tell you why you can't do something
 
Did you guys work with notifications in Firebase? I need a server for that, don't I?
 
not always required, depends on what you're doing
 
11:56 AM
@grrigore Firebase is your server
 
I mean I want to make a web app and a mobile app. Using the web app I want to send custom notification to some of the users of the mobile app
 
Off topic, but why both?
Isn't a web-app already an app?
 
The web app will be used by the staff and the mobile app by users
I mean I have 3 types of mobile app users A, B, C
 
@TimCastelijns No databinding is meant to have coupling loose as possible
 
And I want to develop a web app that allows me to send notification to only A-type users or B-type etc.
 
11:58 AM
I see
 
@MwBakker but ends up with coupling anyway?
 
eLi
serve is required if you want save user token
 
There is always some sort of coupling
 
@MwBakker but data binding binds the xml to the code right? Binding by definition implies coupling
 
lol the top starred message
 
11:59 AM
@TimCastelijns It binds the xml to the 'notifiers' coming from ViewModels
What they notify is none of the xml business, just that a certain something has changed
 
@grrigore you can freely send notifications to topics for example, but if you want to send notifications to specific users you need to store the token on the server like eli said
 
And how will my "items" connect? Web-app -> server -> firebase -> server -> mobile app?
 
My current struggle though is working with commands coming from buttons. I now use Handler classes to prevent ViewModel having any business with UI, but Hanlder classes look a little like Presenter architecture. Except I don't see any other more efficient alternatives currently.
 
handlers are android specific, they should not be used in presenter
@grrigore notifications are created by doing a POST request to the firebase server. It doesn't matter from where you make this request
 
I want to draw a diagram
Something similar to this
 
12:06 PM
@TimCastelijns It's called a Handler class but it can be named whatever. They are classes that contain the handling of a command
 
I would consider renaming the class, Handler is very prevalent already
CommandHandler nice and sweet
 
ComHandler
 
Alright
Thanks
Does anybody of you know where 'picker' comes from in this answer's context?
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Q: how to pass NumberPicker value (onValueChange) through Data Binding?

AnDAndroid Number picker has: onValueChange(NumberPicker picker, int oldVal, int newVal) how to pass those parameters (NumberPicker picker, int oldVal, int newVal) to my viewmodel through databind? <data> <import type="android.view.View" /> <variable name="vm" type="com.my.view.model.MainA...

 
Let's say I want to use a web app to send you a notification to your mobile phone. What's the flow of the notification?
My web app should be connected to a server, the server to the FCM and the FCM to your mobile phone, right?
 
your webapp should be "deployed" on a server
but yes that's the flow in your case, "backend webapp running on a server" -> FCM -> Android Phone
 
12:19 PM
Thank you
 
Mw you are the leading expert on databinding in this room :) if anyone knows it would be you
 
Don't put that much pressure on me Tim haha
I think bluetoothFX is the leading expert
 
ok then you are the deputy expert
 
lol
 
12:29 PM
In order to charge my car, I needed a spot that blocks the path of the circle parking
A little bit, so people may have to turn the car
No disaster, but my god the angry faces
I'm gonna get in so much trouble, I miss my own car. A 30 y old st bernard always working
 
you've got yourself a Tesla?
 
probably earning big bucks now that he is one of two people in the world that know databinding
8
 
😂😂😂😂
 
lol
@TimCastelijns i hope google dont stop developing data binding as too few people uses it :D
 
google deprecating their own tech even before people get to use it? i would never expect that to happen.
 
12:37 PM
:D
 
i give up. tristan's giphy extension needs randomizing
 
Drone video shows the Indian city of Ayodhya breaking a Guinness World Record by lighting more than 300,000 clay oil lamps on the eve of the Hindu festival Diwali https://cnn.it/2RDrbQk https://t.co/fDAP0hJx38
didn't knew they made a world record
 
I saw some pics of the lamps, looks really nice
 
yeah
 
@CNN I mean, was it at competition with any city?
savage
 
12:42 PM
lol a troll
 
but looks beautiful indeed
 
i wish i was there
 
@MehdiB. I felt super motivated after Droidcon London. I think I'll watch presentations whenever I need motivation too
 
o/
 
o/
 
12:43 PM
why didn't you host it in the palace garden CF?
 
lol next year
 
lol
 
Alright, server is back up
But the RAID array is down till I get a new drive tomorrow
 
1:27 PM
So it means you have a bit of amnesia today?
 
maukerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
somebody here has heard about keratbars?
 
I always operate perfectly
 
CFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
 
1187470080331358621040493926581979953470445191167L
 
1:33 PM
That's too long
 
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!reject
 
1:35 PM
@Ishaan you currently do not meet the requirements to chat here. You can find our requirements in the rules.
 
So close, yet so far
 
can 4:44 be simplified to 1:11, doesn't it?
 
no
 
The 4 is fixed
 
1:44 PM
demo took over the house , adam and dave must be happy i guess
 
Call a priest
 
priest for what?
 
demo(n)
 
oh lol
Tired of Your Shit, Mauker
 
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1:58 PM
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@Reda you currently do not meet the requirements to chat here. You can find our requirements in the rules.
 
o/
 
@codeMagic LMAOOO
 
nice mehdi
 
2:09 PM
sup happy adam
 
adam how are swatches used in flutter? I read that flutter will pick a color from the primary swatch for example to use in certain scenarios. What are those?
 
I believe when you create the material app you give it a color, like Colors.blue and it'll pick most of its colors from that blue swatch.
I know less about Flutter than Kotlin so I'mma guess on a lot of these questions lmao
 
That sounds right
 
"it'll pick most of its colors from that blue swatch" my question is, what does this mean
 
lol
 
2:13 PM
since you set the accent color (just to name one) separately
 
swatch is a set of similar color as i said you ignored it :(
 
plz read the question if you don't now the answer just go away
 
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A: How do I use the different shades of a color swatch in Flutter?

Rémi RousseletTLDR Do ThemeData(primarySwatch: Colors.lime), Don't ThemeData(primarySwatch: Colors.lime.shade700), primarySwatch is not one color. It's all the possible material shades. If you look into ThemeData's doc it says : The primary color palette (the [primarySwatch]), chosen from one o...

Okay it's easier to explain with an example
> ThemeData(primarySwatch: Colors.lime)
 
:(
 
You use the lime swatch here, you can actually go to the definition of that swatch
> ThemeData(primarySwatch: Colors.lime.shade700)
 
2:14 PM
if you look up the material design color palette
those are swatches
 
Colors.lime. -> this will show all the colors belonging to the swatch
 
yes that post is exactly where I got it from lol
 
> This implies that when needed the material component will use primary[500] but may also use other shades !
 
2:15 PM
does it mean that if you specify an accent color, it will override the accent color from the swatch?
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I would hope so
because you specified it
but I can't say with certainty
 
yup it does
 
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
purple theme!!!!
 
oh
 
I... i see purple D:
 
2:17 PM
yeah its written purple but that totally looks like blue :d
 
Time for a new monitor CF
 
@TimCastelijns honestly I can't remember off the top of my head
I would need to test it out before I could confirm for you
 
try it out in your super fancy counter app, Tim
 
Fifty Shades of Purple
 
giphy is a mess
 
2:19 PM
xD
 
lol
@AdamMc331 this monitor is good lol
maybe not that color accurate tho
 
ok so when are those swatch colors (that are not the primary color) used? Theme.of(context).accentColor for example is the same as primary color
 
I heard you people like notches
 
notch it off, mauker
5
 
^
Tired of Your Notch , Mauker
@Mauker you bought a new phone?
 
2:25 PM
That's not mine lol
 
It could be Adam's
 
lol
 
"no new messages" yep looks like adam's phone
8
 
2:43 PM
ouch
 
sorry
 
Explains why Adam takes so long to reply to chat, never expects people to be talking to him here
 
That's so sad. Let's message him.
Hi @AdamMc331
 
I am 'popular', I receive multiple messages everyday - some is from Mcdonalds, some from Domino's pizza, others from a variety of spamming source telling me all the 'specials' they have.
I unsubscribe from a mail list yesterday. So instead of spamming my mail, they quickly changed the strategy and started spamming my sms.
If you want to receive many messages, just subscribe to places that spam you with special offers.
 
now that's an emotional elevator :D you feel like someone thought of you so you jump on your phone to see who's that, "Pizza double at ..."
 
2:55 PM
I don't think I have ever willingly subscribed to a mailing list. Always the opposite
 
I wrote my phone in a registration form of a gym, then I started to receive promotional messages about them, not sure their marketer got the logic right
 
I am subscribed to mailing lists of nerds
 
to the Apache mailing lists? :D
 
One of them is leshan
 
@Mauker See, he hasn't replied
 
2:58 PM
So I can follow how nerds are talking
 
old school nerd
 
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