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14:00
it's not up to me
there are only 10 devices that supports 14
they wont even knoww
still not my decision
wish it was
did they tell it has to be ICS+ or 14+ ?
14 and above
"do you know how many clients we have with that version?" "we know we might have some, so we gotta support it"
that's life
lol
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i bet there is 0 clients with that version
14:05
(so do I)
14 was a bug filled version of ICS
it never made it to mainstream devices
almost all devices have 15
^
Tho API level 14-18 represents around 4%-6% of all active devices today, combined.
yeah
ideally 19+ is a good bet
imagine my higher up faces when i show that not even Android Studio has an emulator for 14
"it's ok, we have a couple of devices running it, here"
We're supporting 21+ here
Let pre-material stuff die
14:07
lol I can't load 17
the emulator is forever loading screen
I am testing stars, sorry for the spam
I can hear it telepaticking me "just kill me, let me die"
yeah i was wondering why my lol is starred lol
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@Shadow That's what you get when you try to open the Javascript room
#r15Forever
what, javascript is the best
we would be still stuck with flash if it wasn't for the almighty js
14:10
That's... a good point
(and might be the only point :,( )
that's like saying we would still be stuck with clinton if it wasn't for trump
Nah, I find Flash worse than JS
let's not insult anyone by calling them Trump
14:12
Why?
Trump is a insult now?
lol
only one person deserves it and he already has his name for an insult
what about all the other trumps?
what have they done to you?
there aren't, they all killed themselves after he became president
ok star works thanks for testing
14:13
np
You doing the chat app Tim?
no he is testing the sobotics lib
no but I can
brother, it is my lib now. I wrote copied it from scratch
so api 18 also has the same problem
14:14
let's see if 19 is the miracle boy
19 will be miracle boy
since 16-18 are just rewrapped jellybean
when it comes to android I no longer hold any hopes
expect disappointment at every turn
obviously android dev is a hack
btw shadow are you the same shadow of android talkies chatroom?
"with oreo the user now has more power over notifications!"
user toggles custom ringtone by mistake, notification by default is set to silent and the user no longer can have the custom ringtone set by the app
bravo, Google, you guys are incredible
To be fair, devs did abuse the power they had over notifications...
14:16
nah, just the one from this room, dont think I've been in another room
well with every release i do check what they have fucked up
agree, but to default to what it wasn't before is not the way to go about this
it's sloppy development
@Mauker dev abuse everything should we disable every feature then?
In some cases, it's justifiable.
like CF said, by that line of thought we might just go with Apple then
14:17
^
these are the things that makes people like android
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As an user I hated notification abuse
@Shadow oh i remember seeing a shadow there few months back
he used to be online from time to time
lots and lots of unwanted and unnecessary notifs are annoying
this is the same company that 3 years ago injected an anti virus bundled to the chrome browser without clear disclosure to the users, without any opt out option and no way to restrict the automatic scans to specific locations
Same thing goes for stuff that can harm the device security, and the user data
14:19
and still does it today
I wasn't aware of that :o
oh you didn't know that
do you have chrome installed?
🤔 emoticon test
Yupp
It works Tim
go do your chrome appdatat local folder
14:20
uninstalls chrome
and you have two folders where the bugger is installed
I'm there
"Software Reporter Tool"
in the root of the Google folder
"SwReporter"
inside the Chrome > user data folder
that shit runs whenever it wants
Interesting
and sends metadata back without you knowing
14:21
So does windows
and what Google said about it? a misery of a blog post with a reference to it
We're full of spywares
so the rationale is; if windows does then it's ok
?
No, that's not the rationale, and I never said it's ok
I said it's becoming more common
ah thought you were justifying it
14:22
And it's alarming
did you find the folders I mentioned?
Yup
looking through the files now
guess what, even if you delete them it will download again at any time
I had to remove all access to the folders to jam it
What happens if I delete them, create a dummy file with admin privileges?
it can download with admin priv
14:23
@Shadow or that :p
you have to remove all privileges
and don't enter the folders again because it will restore your permission then
and chrome uses that to download the anti virus again
somehow, dont ask me how
They're just that smart lol
Since when is this running?
i think they started 3 years ago or 2
let me check
just uninstall chrome
it was around the time they stopped suggesting people to install avast while you installed chrome
14:27
"User entered: Mehdi B." why hello there
Hello Tim and Zucc!
can't find the blog post now
I only found out about it when I noticed a 100% cpu usage pattern locking the computer too many times per day
it was that stupid swreportertool.exe every single time
and chrome wasn't even open
14:29
> 4. You can uninstall SRT with Windows add/remove programs.
Seems to be no longer true
@Shadow Chrome stays running in the background
unless you opt that out
thats it
uninstalling chrome
lol CF
you were still looking for reasons?
well i dont use chrome but i had it installed
thankfully now got rid of that virus
@Mauker you can't, that's just standard google employee response, they don't even know what they are talking about
chrome consumes more memory. It's like running multiple threads.. at a time
14:33
That could've been true 3 years ago shadow, no way of know that now
Is there a Dark Theme for this chat on firefox yet?
no it wasn't, they explained in the forums that there was no option to remove from the apps in windows
Oh, okay then
api 19 same problem...
Hm...
Works on 21+?
gonna try on 21 now
20 does not exist, yay for consistency
14:38
20 is 4.4W
That's when Android Wear kicked in
Now named Wear OS
oh god, wear...
it sucks so hard
So much potential wasted :(
right?
14:39
It's not that bad. I did write my graduation thesis based on it
why didn't they made it a bit better?
But... yeah
because nobody cares about it
They rushed too much
"gotta put it out on the market now guys!" "but we have these 100000 problems still" "that's fine, do it"
another one for the fail wall
14:40
lol
that sounds like ICS release tho
tim i could not change the shadow color. next best option use a nine patch image
Apple watch users seems to disagree with you Tim
tho by all means ICS brought the much needed consistency to android
ICS was a watershed in Android history.
(symbian is best os of all)
14:42
lol
all versions prior to 14 were... a science experiment, at best
Android lacked a lot of features and optimizations.
so now the min sdk is 21 or you guys still use min 17?
14:42
And yeah, consistency
before 14 android was a bunch of stuff put together
UI was so crap yuckkkkkkkkkk
air quotes consistency air quotes
I've been using 19+ last year, and this year I've bumped to 21+
constraintlayout is a boon to devs
CL is god's work
14:43
CL is still crap
But still, it feels like an unfinished feature
the other day I tried using it for recyclerview items and the performance went to the ground
Still loves it either way
yes they are adding more features.
14:44
i am gonna start using rxjava soon , good riddance asynctask
and what about the animations
Make sure to experiment a lot CF
you are still using asynctasks cf?
CL animations are a nightmare, redundant layouts just for one stupid animation
Animations got way better since Android 3
14:44
or you compute everything by hand
which is a nightmare still
raghu asyctask and loaders
It is
But it was hell before.
where loader doesnt work asynctask is the only sdk alternative
14:45
I can just place "animatelayoutchanges" on standard layout and it does it all on its own
but CL has to be a complication again
Or use transition manager
but then you need redundant layouts
What are you trying to animate with CL?
hmmm. animations are always hard. I had to recaall high school maths and quadratic equation for writing custom interpolators
"layout_closed" "layout_opened" yay
14:45
I hate the ui/ux guys
I make animations by changing the constraint rules.
even worse when you consider that you cannot organize layouts in folders still!
I've never used redundant layouts
@Shadow DUDE. That's something that I truly hate
But there's a gradle workaround for that
then that's the programmatic way, which is also a nightmare
@Shadow Depending on what you're trying to do... yeah.
14:46
the worst thing, the worst thing is that if you want to animate a view going up and down with CL
IT OCCUPIES THE SPACE FIRST AND THEN SLIDES!
wait, what?
what a shit experience
imagine a chat screen
okay
bottom you have message input with a button for options
above is the RV conversation with the messages
now you want to tap that button and between the message input section and the RV
you want a line of options to slide up
simple right?
change the bias?
14:48
now, if you don't do anything more than the typical transition manager, everything slides up
BUT
the items in the conversation behave erratically
since the animations propagate all the way down the hierarchy
so you tell the RV to not animate its children
great! but now the options bar creates an empty space jump
and then it slides up!
wtf!
I just gave up using CL whenever it brings headaches like these
it's just such a broken feature that needs more work
That slide item stuff reminded me of this:
when it works, I use it, but for the rest just no
what is suppose to happen there
Exactly what's happening
14:50
fuck it still happens with api 21...
We didn't want a snackbar or toast or whatever
so I made the FAB slide and transform
but its behaving well that one
Feb 23 at 16:12, by Mauker
user image
And the way back
I made it smoother, and automatic (it closes by itself).
But I don't have a gif of the final version
that was done using CL
nice
mauker the CL expert
you are hired
<3
Me and CL is like Adam and Kotlin
But did you notice that Kotlin is Carl's language? It always overrides fun.
14:54
lol
@Shadow another animation I made using CL
that screen right there
That's what's happening to your items?
try to add one between the "enter message" and the "messages" recyclerview
Nice, what is this app used for Mauker?
14:55
a bar that slides up and down between those two
@MehdiB. Which one?
the nice gif
There are 3 of them, of two different apps :(
anything can be animated. If it behaves unexpected you are doing something wrong
lol I found this gem:
Oct 28 '16 at 20:30, by Cold Fire
CM = static cm
cm= local cm
14:56
@Mauker I was jk implying that we're not yet using ChatSE :D
@MehdiB. oh lol
@MehdiB. XD
But if I start working on chatSE again I'll be just like Raghav, discouraging Tim on his projects
Oh, the day I was hanging out with @Code-Apprentice
I don't know about that. I got it working in 10 minutes, not sure what the devs of the other chat apps were doing
@MehdiB. lol
14:57
doesnt work on 22 either, fuck this shit
I give up on doing a proper splashscreen with an svg logo in the center
this android is one big piece of crap
@Mauker Not sure how you do that, you look different in literally every picture I've seen of you XD
I let my beard grow
Until you get used to it
then I shave
Tada! New person
lmao i agree with mehdi
That's CF's fault tho, he's the one calling Mauker.dispose() every time, what did you think that happened when he did that?
@Mauker no way in hell you look like the one in your fb pic
@Mauker does your face get wider when you grow beard?
15:00
I shaved on that day, beard and head
because that is what it looks like
Hair size can change the perception of ones face
Tho I also lost 10kg from the picture above, and the one on my FB
^ that is more likely the reason
And now I'm half way back to that weight
full beard
ohhh, old r15 circle avatar
15:16
posted on July 13, 2018 by Lingfeng Yang

Android Emulator 27.3.9 is now available in the Canary and Dev channels. This update includes the following changes: We noticed that some users are having difficulty diagnosing why Windows Hypervisor Platform fails to initialize. We have added more informative error messages. They can be activated by running the emulator from command line with -verbose.We would also like to emphasize that for

From our conversations yesterday, found someone with the same issue: stackoverflow.com/questions/42087678/…
hiya adam
@AdamMc331 Isn't that answer what Dave and I told you?
Did it work?
ugh
@TomerOszlak you need a rep of 80 in order to access this room: room-15.github.io
No, animateLayoutChanges doesn't work lol
I haven't tried the transition answer yet but I will, I just don't know if I can easily do that..
15:32
I had the same problem with CL on bottom sheet + animate
try that one then
same thing, jumps up weirdly
@AdamMc331 But we said to use transition manager
Managed to get upvotes for an entire week now, it's been quite a while since that last happened
If that's the case, is this question off topic then? v
This doesn't address my question. I've already solved the problem for my project. I want to know what I can contribute to the open source library so this isn't necessary. — Kevin Krumwiede 11 hours ago
16:43
anybody tried using androidx yet?
17:36
Adam have
@AdamMc331 i summon thee
how is it?
seems like the app doesnt build
17:53
I had a lot of trouble with the auto converter not changing the XML correctly and had to do a lot by hand
The packages are easier to follow now which is nice, but I had some issues with getting Espresso to work with this, too.
@AdamMc331 You mean Xpresso now, right?
;D
so Adam why can't you set the Transition easily?
18:08
Hello, Android!
Hello, CA!
@Tim saw this issue and remembered that you were having some trouble with rounded cards, perhaps this can help? github.com/bumptech/glide/issues/1077
What a super detailed bug report: issuetracker.google.com/issues/111340978
> Don't take this as a feedback to your services, it's genuine issue here.
wat?
lol
yeah.
18:29
o/
I've been so busy lately I keep forgetting to log into room15 :-(
#selfDreamCrushed :(
@CarlAnderson <obligatory old person memory joke>
<obligatory old person hearing loss response>
@Mauker thanks chap
@ColdFire current code seems to be stable. I have set up a separate project on github where I will move the module to
18:52
\o/
gotta go somewhere tomorrow morning
good night
night prince
Have royal dreams
19:11
Is it possible to disable word-wrap on a multi line text view?
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Q: Disable Word Wrap in an Android Multi-Line TextView

George BaileyI am working on a Month View with an advanced swipe (requires current, next and previous to be loaded to allow each view to stick to your finger) which means I have many views which causes things to be a little bit slow. | | #<-- screen bounderies ' previous ' current ' ...

let me test
That's a bit hackish
str.replace("\n", "");
LOL
19:23
I believe my questions is a bit more complex than that after all
say that I have a card with fixed width, and there's a textview inside of it. This textview has a maxlines attr set to "2". The textview is also an AppCompatTextView, cause I wanted the autoSizeText feature.
Now, if I have a single word that is larger than the single line space, it'll break into two lines instead of resizing the text
|singlebigwo|
|rd         |
I wonder if there's a way to detect that it's a single word and it should resize instead of breaking the word to the second available line...
Or perhaps I should just change this design idk
19:41
Managed to make it work <3
20:01
-ish
lol I would have changed the design
Fixing error handling and associated tests today
This problem has been outstanding for as long as I've been on this project...so like more than the last 9 months and I finally get to fix it!
@DaveS I'm open to new ideas
Jun 20 at 16:21, by Mauker
> CA changed his username to: Test-Apprentice
@Mauker I already told you my idea, change the design
¬¬
20:12
:)
you didn't explain the use case so that's all I got
smartass
jk
I'll send a screenshot on fb
done

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