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back~~~:D
Wb womp
🥘
is that a paella emoji??
My mobile shows that emoji
13:02
i'm impressed
WHAT
is there a paella emoji
how can i make it
Really?
🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘
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My mobile shows it lol
No idea how
🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘🥘
13:04
Paella paella
Now Eric and womp can include the emoji in their lunch time msg
Or in the paellaland flag
@forest the PR department will get back to you in 6-8 — Andras Deak 12 hours ago
:D
@W0MP3R you had how much paella?
today 0
13:08
well
but i had to post the paella emoji
0 for me either
but i'm happy.
hi happy, i'm hungry
lol
hi hungary, this is my friend austria.
13:11
ooooh!!! the place of the kangaroos!!
nice :D
meanwhile on SO®©
lol
@MuratK. I think it's pretty cool, to eliminate all the necessary documents and emails and chat exchanges
but then all your data are on their servers
wtf is the teams thing
13:14
ah yes, didn't think about it, including sensitive prod data like the one shared in the landing page (database)
looks like a paid facebook group.
okay I think I don't really dislike the new macbook keyboard
it's still very weird and hard to type without looking but it's better than I thought
i like mine and it's the same key system afaik
15" or 13"?
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the same then
with the touch bar aye?
13:16
yeah
I love my Mac keyboard
i7, 16gb ram
At least until it lasted
when's the next Macbook released?
same as mine then ahmad
13:18
Might trade in my old Macbook for the new one
the old gray or the new gray?
okay i'll rephare
white greyish or dark silver
space grey?
@Ahmad if you have an empty room, put some cool music at 100% volume
the speakrs are awesome
13:21
Mac speakers were always awesome
not like this tho
Eurostat unemployment by region in europe
Norway looking very consistent
i should move to mark's place.
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Ireland / Scotland?
both have a quite low unemployment
both have high quality drinks
both are green ish
13:39
Turns out github.com/Picovoice/Porcupine only allows 1 wake up word, and for a wake up sentence need the commercial license - cc @Mauker
13:50
Damn
o/ adam
omg the Mark hawaii chat omg
I laughed out loud
Hawaii chat?
Missing Context
13:53
:D
I went to a Kotlin meetup last night. I'm trying to find out how I can speak at the next one.
or any future one*
Oh damn using chat on mobile sucks as always
@AdamMc331 you walk in the middle of the meetup, grab the mic, and say......
@AdamMc331 ping the organizer through the meetup messaging system. As an organizer myself, I would welcome volunteers for presentations.
talking about which...wanna come present at my meetup? =p
I don't have a presenter lined up for our next one in two weeks.
aren't you both a country away?
i thought CA lived on Carl's coast, and i know for sure adam is on Godzilla's ( 1998 ) coast.
13:59
@CptEric sounds like you want to move in with me :D
I don't even get a say in the matter
you don't.
one day i'll drop by on the edimburgh airport and messenger you my location so oyu can pick me up
i'll bring wine.
@Code-Apprentice Yeah I did, I commented on the meetup from last night and am just waiting on a response lol
@CptEric yes we are
you shouldn't be promoting adam's travel trough the country then. he must visit us europeans first.
:D
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Q: How can we opt out from the arbitration clause of the new terms of service?

Andras DeakThe new Terms of Service went live yesterday following an 8-hour heads-up on meta. One key change that was mentioned as an aside with no real explanation is the new arbitration clause. Opt-out appears to be possible only via snail mail, according to the ToS and an unsure comment by an employee. ...

14:18
@CptEric I don't have a car to pick you up :( though I can easily sort out some wine / drink :D
i bring the cooking expertise and the best wine my local wineyards can produce, you lend me a sofa.
@MarkO'Sullivan cab will also work
@CptEric but he doesn't need a passport or anything special to visit over here
the raimat vineyards valley is a 5min drive from my work
i jsut got an awesome news :D
my car is not on a 10 year plan, it's on a 5 year plan lol
so i have just 2.5 years left to pay.
Wow awesome
14:29
@CptEric private stack overflow environments for companies etc.
we had something similar with confluence
but it didn't really get used
I don't think people are likely to ask questions like that in a company, people don't want their ignorance archived.
We have confluence docs
don't see anyone using SO teams
they basically wasted time and effort on an useless product
@eski I can see using it to self-answer questions when you find a solution and want to document it for others on your team.
they tried something similar about 2 years ago. I think it was called "channels"
yes, and they reworked it and rebranded it.
I like this idea of archiving institutional knowledge. I'm not sure about the implementation, though.
This chat here is a gold mine, the SmokeDetector thing posts stuff like that non stop chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/1181/the-fire-department
> Customer data at rest is not uniformly encrypted...
From the security policy ^
this has me the most concerned. I don't see companies using this if SO employees can easily access potential trade secrets.
@MuratK. and they ditched their best product, documentation.
14:42
@MuratK. you got lost in the network? :D
Documentation for business, that would be a product i would purchase from SE.
I am a bit scared you are not being sarcastic eric
a documentation tool for projects that could reference SE questions, answers, track git repositories, and have SO's editing.
14:43
@MehdiB. it's from the chat I linked
ah :D
@TimCastelijns i am not. there is not a single good documentation tool out there for software development that easily integrates with anything else than it's own belly
SO's version of documentation was little more than an enormous collection of information copy pasted from other sources
you have two options out in the wild: some poorly deployable open source thing a random eric, adam or tim did their last summer and never mantained properly again, or expensive costumer abusive products like atlassian's.
in my reply i mean a private documentation tool based off that
not Documentation® in the state they developed it
oh
personally I would favor github's wiki
14:47
it's lame to integrate, relies on hypertext-ish formatting, does not integrate with anything, collaboration trough PR's is boring and slow for a company.
i don't dislike it, but it wouldn't be my choice if my money was on the table
we spend hot cash on a ERP to manage projects, could also spend hot cash on a quality documentation toolset
you prefer SO's way where anyone can edit whatever they like, and a bunch of people have to monitor everything?
same as a wiki then
just easier for the end user
soemthing in the line of github.com/Requarks/wiki
but professional
that would be nice.
Is SO Teams good? Is it helpful?
biased pov: no, no.
it's basically "your private stack overflow subpage for 4.99€/user".
hard to say, they just released it
14:50
@Code-Apprentice Yeah that's true, I do remember a few people doing that.
Does those 5$ guarantee I definitely get my answers quicker?
it's internal Abhi
nope, it's only for your company to use as a internal help desk tool
basically a paid version of Jira free.
wait no. not even that. exactly the same cost as Jira for teams
10$ for the first 10 users
@MuratK. ??
14:53
The answer got deleted
@CptEric I think JIRA has a different use case in mind.
the difference is Jira offers you a single pay 10$ virtual machine / docker you can install in your private server, and you manage it yourself.
it's the same use case, companies that need internal organization and metrics
and ticketing, stats etc...
comes with documentation, Q&A, ticketing,etc
Oh was the answer offensive?
14:55
I actually thought its pretty useful for information sharing across the team, but Murat raised a good concern about private data being stored on SO
So it might be useful for organisations but not for small groups?
if you look at it's features, and don't automatically see you really need it, you probably don't need it.
but that's my opinion
if your organization/company can make use of this ^ then you might use it.
I think you'd have to be a huge company with some internal tools which are not public, to find it useful
Another useless stuff from SO why am I not surprised
This is prolly their source of revenue
15:09
They should have probably just focused on an actual decent mobile app before releasing that internal documentation
Actually I just realised their app is better now
@CptEric Would you have any idea why I'm seeing "uno/a" and "los/as" in our translation files?
is that what you do when you don't know the gender?
yep
thanks!
çback!
yup @eski
el/a los/as uno/a viajero/a amigo/a
the more modern @ is also "accepted"
"Bienvenid@s a la aplicación"
@AdamMc331 hahahaha
Good morning!
oh wow... 🥘
15:38
o/
@AdamMc331 lmao
HIYA CARL!!!!! :D
Hiya Wompers, how are you?
15:54
lol is that a paella emoji?
\🥘
lol
@Lanaru you have write access, but you need to read the rules first or it will be revoked: room-15.github.io
16:11
@eski yup discovered by my phone
🥘/
🍪
!/meow
!/paella
17:04
welp that is not a paella.
it's rice with things. too many things.
it is according to Google
it's not according to the laws of nature, and the paella patent
:D
maybe you should get a job at Google cooking paella for them.
or maybe you don't know what Traditional Spanish Paella actually is because you make the Bastard™ version.
17:19
@Lanaru for failing to acknowledge reading the rules your access is revoked. Sorry.
an actual paella emoji .. when did this happen
Apple is shitty
those Catalonians have been busy.
looks like soup
Samsungs looks like Ramen
they overcooked the rice, made it into a mush
someone needs to teach their designers how to cook
18:00
mmm, liquified rice
posted on May 03, 2018 by Android Developers

Posted by Doug Stevenson, Developer Advocate Starting today, the Android SDKs for Google Play services and Firebase will be using a new build and versioning scheme. This may require some changes to the way you build your Android app, so be sure to read here thoroughly to get all the details. Here's a quick summary of what's new in these SDKs: All dependencies now use semantic ver

18:18
@CarlAnderson lol
@TimCastelijns I'll be honest and say I don't know how given the recent "drama" things will pan out in regards to that.
However, imho, this isn't the only room that uses explicit write access to prevent trolling/vampires that end up in frustration for everyone.
Hi Jon - I don't think I've met you before - what's your position in the SO heirarchy?
hey @Carl - I'm just a mod
a chat mod? or an SO mod?
SO mod
(elected 2015 - but definitely not staff)
18:23
ok
AFAIK you're the closest thing to staff we've had visit here
and as some of the meta posts point out, there hasn't been very good communication between the more established rooms and the SO staff
it would be pretty great if we could get some clear communications on our expected behavior here and to be able to dialog about it
I'm not here to debate or address that - that's a pile of stuff best left to cool down and be addressed rationally - hopefully sooner rather than later. I'm just trying to give my thoughts on to something I just found where @Tim mentioned me Carl
the 'gallery' mode predates my history here, and we've tinkered with it from time to time to try to get as many people in while keeping the help vampires out
sure but presumably you have more communication lines than we do, so if you're discussing it with staff or others, you can mention that we'd rather have a dialog about our process than just get shut down or told to stop
@CarlAnderson slow down buddy - I'm here to communicate my thoughts to @Tim and presumably the rest of the ROs as well he can reference
ok, cool
I discovered this guy a few time ago and now I'm a fan
really starts at minute 4:00
18:35
question is though, I see @Tim's joined - does he have a minute? :p
@CarlAnderson I rarely visit here... think I popped in ages back asking about developing for android in something other than Java etc...
You a new RO or just someone I've never seen in my (limited) time here?
I've been a RO here since ~2015
maybe 2014
just ships that never met in the night then :p
18:57
but yeah, welcome to the room
and sorry we haven't met before
19:09
@Carl thanks! Happy to be here. Since I'm not even attempting Android development these days - next "hi" may not be for a while :)
o/
Thanks for stopping in, Jon. :)
19:38
Yeah we used to have a requirement that access wasn't granted to people who didn't have any Android questions/answers but that prevents people like you who might want to explore Android (or get a non-SO worthy Android question answered) so we dropped that requirement
20:36
come for the android, stay for the kittens
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When @Ahmad applies for an SO internship ^
and the only time he wears a suit and tie
LOL
actually tho I wore a suit and tie today
:}
20:51
@Code-Apprentice repost
5 hours ago, by AdamMc331
21:07
@CarlAnderson I added commentary appropriate for Room 15
21:44
o/
 
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23:05
@Code-Apprentice Internship? That's CEO material à la elon musk.
23:40
@eski Ahmad only does internships
oh right, so chief internship officer
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@CptEric I am not familiar with all those features. We only use JIRA for issue tracking and logging hours workedon a project
23:57
@MarkO'Sullivan First of His Name
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