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16:03
tim is working for ze germans now
where are you working now tim?
16:30
Mediamonk
o/
where has @W0MP3R been lately? Haven't seen her around much.
@propstm you have write access but you'd better read all of the rules first: room-15.github.io
I have read and understood the rules
amen.
great, thanks
16:36
and welcome
Been a while since someone did that successfully
they should earn a special badge "I can read some text"
Meh, I only read and would like to try to follow the rules. It's not too tough, so far.
it could be a secret winter hat
I dislike winter hats
16:39
they dislike you too
propstm, you'd be surprised by the number of new users not able to complete this simple task ^^
I've got a question that would be killed in traditional SO, so I figured best to ask in chat. I'm an iOS dev who's in the last few weeks been tasked with transitioning some code into Android and i'm getting hung up on stuff that i'd assume to be obvious.

Chrome by default is pretty slick with handling file uploads. That is not out of the expected functionality with a plain webview, without making your own customizations, correct?
This is not the expected functionality -- geez, don't give me too much credit. I guess I'm getting ahead of myself trying to type.
you're writing app code to upload a file and are using a webview to do it??
Sounds like the upload should be done via the website and not the job of the mobile app
Doubt there'd be anything you could do with the webview to handle the upload (though I haven't used the webview much)
going back to step 0, when i first setup the app, the Url loads and clicking the input wasn't doing anything. I went down this rabbit hole. stackoverflow.com/questions/5907369/file-upload-in-webview
16:49
@OcuS m8 I resigned in November, sorry you don't care about my life
:'(
we've got a webpage with a form, i'm loading that page in the webview. I've got some code in opening up a file chooser, and i've setup so far "Select File" which opens the directory, and "Take a picture" which opens the camera. Long story short my boss wants to change the form up so each media type has it's own upload using the capture attribute on the input tag. I just can't help but wonder if i'm barking up the wrong tree with this whole thing.
@TimCastelijns I care! I must have forgotten :s
@TimCastelijns XD
I've done camera capture uploads and file uploads before but it's been in native code, not a webview
16:53
I'm going to do what the cool kids do, and create a personal website
why?
personal websites are a tough path to go down. No one pays you to build it, and in my case as soon as it's "done" i want to rebuild the whole thing.
don't laugh :D I will make it my play ground, a website where users (only me of course) will get to choose what backend tech they want to browse the website on.
Java - Python - Scala
and the frontend will be on React Native, thought might be a good way to force me to do something "fun" in parallel :D
So if i understand correctly, you're going to write three unique back ends for the same front end. What's the catch?
nothing XD
Just to apply Python and Scala :D
I finally accepted the fact that I don't learn a new tech unless I have a need / project to use it for
17:04
that's the optimal way
you never code things just for the fun?
I work on so much things in parallel, that the only fun activity I do is sleeping
but I force myself to make the things i work on interesting and fun
but it's not really fun when you have a deadline
sleeping is boring, I wish I could skip this part of the day
back
lol ocus
@MehdiB. sometimes i develop apps for my personal need
I hate the "necessity" of sleeping, but since we're stuck with it, I try to enjoy it
17:11
same
tho sleep is necessary
without sleep your productivity goes down the drain
@ColdFire I no longer find developing android apps very educative, trying to explore new stuff on my free time
I don't understand how you "enjoy" sleeping. When I sleep, I don't feel anything
I enjoy the first 10mins of it, the wandering in my brain
ah that is true
doing this shit for a long time makes you bore of it eventually
@TimCastelijns congrats finally
17:16
o/
o/
it's time to flee, cya!
Cya!
cya Ocus
dave's entry and Ocus's exit
17:20
I have that effect on civilians
17:30
They get tired of your shit?
touche
17:53
it's amusing to be somewhere and see people 100% focused on swiping left/right on their phones XD
I'm getting a promotion and raise starting next month!
Congrats!
Congrats CA!
Well done cA, hopefully you'll remember us little people
Congrats!
18:00
congrats CA
LOL eski
I probably need to hang out in chat less in order to get more billable hours.
I need to get work done
I'd be cool with oprah
@DaveS I disagree with the conclusion. When it comes to speed, a machine can measure what the user notices. The trouble is defining the acceptable parameters within which download speeds are acceptable.
> The office of the President of the United States isn’t a popularity contest where inexperienced celebrities can just sit
umm...did this author miss the 2016 election?
elections are popularity contests
18:45
lol I'm not endorsing the quote I'm talking about the script that types in a human like fashion
everyone learned this with their school elections
See here's the thing. To put it at it's most basic level, being president requires 3 things.

Legal and government expertise.
Being compassionate
Decision making in tight crunches
and you literally win by having more people choose you, aka popularity
It doesn't require those at all
The current president has none of those things.
18:46
It literally requires 2 things
@DaveS yah...I just had to comment on the quote ;-)
Oprah would get like 1.5/3, maybe, MAYBE 2.
But that's not enough
1. Eligibility,
2. The most electoral votes
See like, Obama, like him or not, had all the things required.
You're mistaking an ideal candidate vs a candidate that can become president
18:47
@DaveS the requirements for becoming president are different than those for performing the job well
right
> See here's the thing. To put it at it's most basic level, being president requires 3 things.
I read that as the requirements for performing the job
I think that is what Tristan was commenting about
If you don't wake up and realize our brain dead voting population can and will elect whomever they want, you're having th wrong argument
Trump won because people dismissed him because he wasn't qualified
exactly
@DaveS the author of the link on Quora which sparked this conversation seems to conflate "becoming president" with "being a qualified candidate for president".
yes
then Tristan repeated it, so I wanted to emphasize they are using the wrong language
You can't go around saying things like "They can't be president" because it generates the "Oh yes they can I'll show you" response
18:52
I read Tristan's "being president" as "doing the job", not "getting elected".
I interpreted it as being the president
what does it take to be the president at it's most basic level
doing the job is not being the president, you just need to "be" the president
That's what I meant
I know Tristan
and here we are a bunch of pedantic programmers arguing over the meaning of "being"
I think in general the idea that there are qualifications other than being elected, for being the president, underestimates how much of a popularity contest elections are
18:54
ambiguous natural language is the bane of my existence
and how stupid people will vote just to prove you wrong
Oprah absolutely COULD be president and if you don't put up a more popular candidate, she WILL be
All the "qualifications" in the world just don't matter unless they translate to popularity
if she decides to run, she has a very good chance of winning, certainly
she also will likely make a good president, despite her lack of political experience. She certainly can't be a worse president than Trump.
I just want trump gone so people will stop talking about him nonstop
I just want him gone so he'll stop being president
@eski then we will find something else to talk about nonstop just to annoy you
19:09
I hope it's oprah
Today, it was my great honor to proclaim January 15, 2018, as Martin Luther King Jr., Federal Holiday. I encourage all Americans to observe this day with appropriate civic, community, and service activities in honor of Dr. King's life and legacy. https://t.co/samlJsz1Nt
@Code-Apprentice dude exactly the point
umm...now he's taking credit for MLKJ day?
you hated trump for that and you are contesting a candidate like trump
the democrats have lost it
mark my words if they dont mend their ways 2020 is another trump victory
@Code-Apprentice that's what a normal message should be, not like the "shithole countries" one :D
19:12
hillary still wants to run again in 2020
she's psychotic
yeah well another loss on the cards
she aint gonna win
I thought the whole weinstein thing was to stop her from running
@MehdiB. except that he seems to be taking credit for creating a holiday that has been observed for many decades
@eski what does weinstein have to do with hillary clinton?
He takes credit for everything he didn't do, that's his MO
He was a big supporter of hers, has connections to bill, and it brings up the way she reacted to the rape accusations of her husband.
19:20
@DaveS yes it is. I'm not surprised. Just pointing out another instance of it.
And the monica lewinsky thing
the president and an intern is a pretty big difference in power
I was not aware of that connection. TIL
@Code-Apprentice ah, I missed the first part XD
\o @Ahmad
just came across these 2 tweets XD
> - Are we being "honest" now? Then I should bring up average IQs world wide.
- Great, we can start with yours
19:32
O/ ca
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@eski just proves how bad both the candidates were
I need to get back into some Android programming. My baseball card app has lost a lot of its interest for me ;-(
19:51
you've been doing that app for a while now
I haven't done much on it in the last 3 years or more. And there are still plenty of features and bugs that need some work.
maybe I just need to find another app to build instead.
or start it from scratch again
@MehdiB. umm...no. If I work on the baseball card app, it will be to add new features.
The code base is pretty good IMO...at least the last time I looked at it. The tests need some love, though.
I don't like my code from 3 years ago :D
20:09
I haven't learned much Android since then, so any new code I write now will likely look similar to the code I wrote 3 years ago.
 
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21:29
6 hours ago, by Mehdi B.
do you guys use the apps that you develop? (as a regular user)
if that means projects done as a hobby then yes, this is one of the main purposes. and for work… well hopefully I'll be developing something that is actually worth using on a future job… last time it was not, because I'm not the kind of person who needs online sex
test coverage is up from 47% to 48% after the last two days!
and that's just on the frontend ReactJS
@SargeBorsch sounds like there is a story there that needs to be told
and that story I want to hear
lol
same XD
so far all the products I've worked on, I've used personally as well
21:45
It would be weird to use MeetMe, I have too many admin privileges
isn't that the best part
you can make everyone match with you
lol
according to a friend who is going to intern at tinder, she'll have a 'verified' profile after joining
like a check mark next to her name
@eski should be part of the compensation package, 100% match :D
I did have tons of friends after I worked on the friend requests screen
21:50
XD
and tell the backend guys and database admins, "if you see my name, be cool, don't read my messages"
2
my friend wouldn't believe me that I don't look at his messages
just got my DNA results in
apparently I'm 37% scandanavian o_0
I could have guessed that trevor
22:16
before you got the results, what did you think you were, treveor?
only thing about my heritage that I knew was my grandma is German and my mom's side of the family is from Maine
never met either of my grandpas
germans and scandanavians are very intermixed
it had a separate Europe - West category for me that mentioned Germany
I don't know how they decide the categories to list. I just know that many Germans tend to also have Scandanavian ancestors.
that's interesting to know
22:29
It is probably more predominant in northern Germany since Denmark is considered Scandinavian...and it is closer to the Scandanavian peninsula.
lots of cultural and genetic interchange
I think my grandma is from the central french border area
interesting
what's the rest?
the 63%
if I were to do that I'm pretty sure I'll be 90%+ south asian lmao
37% scandinavia, 28% ireland/scotland/wales (also had no clue about), 19% europe west, 9% iberian peninsula, 7% europe south
22:45
interesting!
which test was that?
ancestry
my work gave us all tests for free for xmas
ui nice!
@Ahmad if i were to do that I'm pretty sure I'll be (X > 50)% from a few shithole countries :D
23:20
o/
o/!
We've missed you cM
23:37
Of course you have
:D is everything ok from your side?
On and off. Lol
haha!
Still lots of stress at work? or things have started to calm down?
@MehdiB. LOL
@MehdiB. should probably just be "island shithole" since "madagascar" takes some knowledge of geography
23:49
hahaha
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