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17:00
we go out and help set up and stuff - i've never done it, i'm just winging it here. so when the hackathon gets closer, we start looking for internal volunteers
Ah okay
omg fragments are so terrible
why? they are cuddleable double edge swiss knives
Fragments aren't that bad.
17:09
they are
getArguements() returns null even though setArguments() was called
should not have to spend time debugging what is essentially just sending parameters to thing I am creating, that is basic shit that should just work
I'm with foamy here, they are that bad.
Are you sure you're setting the arguments first? Are you using a NewInstance() method?
and ideally should work in the same way that it works with Activities or anything else
for me they do...
and when are you calling getArguments()?
17:11
^
onCreateView()
When do you call setArguments()?
you should call it before adding the fragment
and if it's something like a back pressed event, debugging the onResume just in case won't do harm
17:12
right after new MyFragment()
Are you calling it before you do the fragment transaction?
Usually the way I have it is
not using a transaction manager
ViewPager adapter
ahá
that's the problem
Hmm so
I have code for this somewhere
i can never see why people hate fragments so much, i'm hoping to get to their level of expertise where i can realize why they're so terrible
17:13
the viewpager creates all the fragments at first
then you must play with the onresume
if i remember well
I hate them because they offer an upside only in what I consider a very narrow use case.
They're filled with bugs, caveats, and are just bloated and not necessary.
but when they're needed here they are
and they API to use them is entirely different than anything else
There's no use case for them IMO
17:15
reusable subviews with a defined functionality
omg please tell me I didn't remove the github repo
to unclutter activities
and all of the upside that they do offer can be achieved with just Activities and Views, and the code ends up being similar, but not as awful.
gah my code is at home
i guess
17:15
meeting day today was crazzy, literally just logged on to work now for the first time, and ther's only an hour left in the day
damn red
:/
I know this can be done pretty easy.
that's it.
@CptEric Reusable is I think the huge thing here.
I find myself, when I setup fragments, spending less time refactoring when I want to move things around.
yeah
17:18
I find myself using that time I save by fixing some BS that wouldn't be an issue without using fragments =x
i think it's a matter of perspective foamy
it's more "how" you use fragments , and the so many badly written tutorials out there
than how bugged they "appear" to be.
17:22
You can do everything you want to do with fragments with custom views, but with much cleaner code.
17:23
you gotta spread them out more reno
You're diluting your value as a catpic herder
Jun 13 '15 at 22:15, by McAdam331
I'm pretty sure @codeMagic printed the fragment lifecycle and uses it as a dart board at home.
i don't know, maybe i haven't found myself with so many problems with fragments
Aug 10 '15 at 15:13, by McAdam331
And I'm just sitting here wondering what the fuck I'm doing with my life hanging out with all you.
^Still true.
XD
i don't have any viewpager tutorial made (yet), but this pretty much is my jack-of-all code for fragments outside viewpagers.
never fails XD
17:26
Oct 24 '10 at 8:59, by Roman Nurik
Hm.. anything going on here?
With views we have something called the addView and removeView methods that work quite well :p
:O
Reno, was that in this room?
of course
yeah but customviews usually don't render on the AS layout editor
Hmm, yeah I guess I don't use the layout editor
17:28
programatically create layouts is a pain in the ass for me :(
and makes a lot of cluttering code.
I use the xml editor
without preview? that's brave XD
Not the wysiwyg though
i use both , depending on the task.
i guess it's a matter of "what are we used to"
i NEVER ever, have used the AS layout editor
all text
baby
17:34
like ORM vs sqlLite direct polling
i think the AS text xml editor needs a better autocompletion system , heh.but lately it has evolved a lot.
I write my XML by hand too but will occasionally use preview just to make sure I've got the general idea right.
I was gonna make a joke about drag-n-drop being for pussies, but honestly I just think it's too hard on AS. Unless you're doing a LinearLayout, it's too hard to get the weights and alignments that you want it's just easier to do it by hand if you know what you're doing.
^
i drop elements "in there", then edit them on the text editor
but i don't feel like writing all the android:id and android:whatever by myself, sounds tiring
Meh you get used to it.
Man I need to get back to blogging more
yeah
i should start a blog
it'll help me retain stuff i've learned
17:43
Yeah it definitely does.
My last post is like three weeks over due. Maybe tonight I can write some more.
I'm gonna write about Cards on Android Wear
Then I'm gonna write "Fragments: Are they really that bad?"
question adam
Except I'm gonna write that one for our blog
stupid one
17:45
Then I'll give a stupid answer ;P
i can't remember how i turn a string into a valid url. just the swift solution comes into my mind
What do you mean?
&potatoes= are very-potaty
make the spaces and the special asci characters transform into their ascii code counterparts
for url matching
Hmm. Well if you only need to go for certian conditions can't you find an appropriate way to use String.replace()? But perhaps there's libraries and less-hacky methods.
yeah
was thinking on replacing spaces with %20
17:48
yeah
57
Q: Java - Convert String to valid URI object

lostInTransitI am trying to get a java.net.URI object from a String. The string has some characters which will need to be replaced by their percentage escape sequences. But when I use URLEncoder to encode the String with UTF-8 encoding, even the / are replaced with their escape sequences. How can I get a val...

nice
and easy
Looks like there is an apache commons library for it. I figured there had to be.
Maybe I'll start writing while I'm on lunch right now ha
meh that doesn't work anymore
new way of doign things in the neighborhood
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Q: What happened to URIUtil.encodePath from commons-httpclient-3.1?

scompt.comI want to do what's described in question 724043, namely encode the path components of a URI. The class recommended to do that is URIUtil from Commons HttpClient 3.1. Unfortunately, that class seems to have disappeared from the most recent version of HttpClient. A similarly named class from HttpC...

18:06
\o/
howdy
It's freezing in my office. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/…
yeah, mine too
it's hanging around 67 degrees
67 is normal lol
I am enjoying my 68 degrees here (outside is 10 degrees xD)
18:12
my fingers are cold, hard to type
i guess if you live in Canada you become accustomed to being uncomfortably cold.
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> 27°F + Feels Like 12°
2.0 fancyy
Are those freedomheit units?
yeah
18:21
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Cool I wrote my blog post now all I need to do is write a sample app when I get home.
nice
18:47
oh man
I'm getting crazy with generics
just used an & for the first time
@McAdam331 What's it about?
Cards for Android Wear.
Oh, cool
Yeah. :)
I kinda wish I had an android wear device to play with
18:55
They're pretty neat
-3
Q: Java Class simple method for beginner

Dongsong WuI try to run the following code for the first time of JAVA, but i can't figure it out why the print method will run autocratically in windows command prompt without calling it ! public class Main { public static void main(String[] args) { System.out.println("Hello from Java!"); ...

mkorcha, I have one, but did nothing :)
Why does print autocratically print?!
What a dictator method
Why can't we vote for what will print and not print when we call print?
democratic methods, make Java great again!
18:58
#JavaTrump
Build a wall to keep JavaScript out
And ban all iOS products from entering our virtual environment
You see all these software programs being outsourced to other languages.. We need to bring them back to Java.
We'll even make JavaScript pay for the firewall
Repeal Type Checking!
Scala, Kotlin, Groovy, these are just cheap imitators of our homegrown Java quality. They can't even run without our JVM.
And all the apps those imitators build, they're Malware, Spyware, Adware and some, I assume, are good programs.
Of course, we're awesome
The hispanics love Java too
The classiest, most luxurious language
They've always loved Java
19:05
Put it on everything!
Whoohoo! Got my MHacks invite!
wohoo
congratz
It's already on everything Dave
even your underwear runs Java
crap I feel like taking a nap
You mean you don't always feel like taking a nap?
Teach me how to have energy.
Wow so far three of my friends who I reached out to were waitlisted.
19:14
I only want to take a nap half the time now that I eat low-carb foods, take vitamins, and get good sleep :/
waitlisted?
Yeah. It means "We're not accepting you, but for those people who don't reserve their spot we'll extend their spot to you instead."
ah
oh
Yeah. They'll have a confirmation form and you have like 5 days to confirm otherwise you lose your spot.
will you come to UPC hacks? XD
19:17
lol I can't I don't have a passport. :(
why not?
what
Cause <Trump> There's no other country, only America, and America is great. </Trump>
^
Trump built a wall so I couldn't leave.
if i can enter in and sneak proper sandwitches, you can come XD
Actually, I took that Drake song too seriously. I ran out of pages in my passport.
19:19
Really?
I struggle to complete one :(
LOL That was a joke.
I literally don't have a passport. I never have.
I haven't even gone to Canada and it's a 30 minute drive from my house.
it's that hard to get one there?
No I just haven't been on a trip, I haven't needed one.
My life is boring, Eric.
19:19
i just have to pay like 5€ and wait 20min XD
lol
Eric
aye?
We live on giant countries
Travel to the next city is like going from Spain to Portugal
America is a giant.
</Trump>
The State I live in is bigger than most of Europe countries lol
and it's only one of so many
19:22
but same culture
Adam can say the same
not funny XD
Not quite
Next year I will host a hackathon. it will be just like the good old days youtu.be/jSRxstQeOqI?t=94
where ar thou from, reno?
19:43
He doesn't want you to know Eric.
i see
You should threaten him instead of asking nicely.
lol jk
"Tell me where you live or I will find you with my special set of skills."
20:04
LOL
my favebook messenger is completely broken what the hell
I can't send or receive messages on mobile, browser, whatever. It's been jacked up all day
I sent my friend a message and he said he got it even though Messenger told me 'something went wrong' but when he replied I got no notifications
you've been hacked.
who cares about your problems, you have a new avatar
20:06
Should I use it?
ofc
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beautiful
lol
lol nice
triple bronze
20:09
yeahh
nice
to anyone interested
jsonizeMe is at 85%
^_^
Wow yet another friend waitlisted. :/
Mhacks doesn't like your friends
20:14
soo, adam, you were going to do an app?
neat I think my avatar refreshed
Yeah I'll probably do a mobile app of course. Not sure what though.
howdy guys
20:16
need an api framework for debugging?
in json?
XD
lmao I think I'm good ;P
i'll need beta testers
soon
how have things been?
Pretty good, you?
nicey
20:18
Hi guys
... Adam are you in here all day?!
Eric you're no better :P
Hi Pyrodante!
What?
Someone has to watch over you people.
Hah
Least I only come here to vampire
i'm just bere 8am-11pm
during my ill days
20:19
I'm here between like 9-2 AM mostly. LOL
Do you guys know a free PDF editor? Getting my visa documents signed ^-^
Eric - You were here this morning at 9am :P
nothing to do except take cold meds, chat here, watch movies...
yeah, i'm with some type of cold XD
lots of fever...
good news everyone, occitan is official in our regional parliament!
yikes. 38.2ºC
~102ºFreedomheits
lol thx Eric
20:21
np
A coworker is out today with a 102 freedomheit fever as well.
yeah well. it's normal to get a cold with this climate hell
last week avg temperature at 8am = between 5 and 20ºC (~70ºF i think)
this week =-3ºC to 10
I'm also here
I guess
You're always here in spirit, Mauker.
You know how people live stream video games on twitch and stuff? We should live stream developing an app.
yeah
why not?
maybe i'll stream pennApps
now that you gave me the idea
20:26
So my ADB seems to be sucking hard
Someone already did that once
What's going on?
some top tier devs showed their everyday lives
at work, of course
Ughh I wanna go home I don't feel that well.
20:27
well about half the time when I hit run it just doesn't run on the phone. And debugging keeps crashing and sometimes says it failed to attach, but debugging still works
not sure when this started happening :|
Emulator or actual device?
actual device
Try replacing the USB cable?
if it's device, try to clean the device a bit
or replacing the cable
20:28
IIRC I have used several different cables... may try my wifes phone, but this has been going on for a while.
not a serious issue, just frustrating.
yeah
pressing debug sometimes happens to me too
the "unable to attach"
but that's not adb's fault, but the device's
also a lot of the time even if I save, then I run it won't rebuild, so I actually load my old version
so I have to make little cues to let me know if the change even happened
I often have to rebuild manually
but not always :|
wat?
Sounds like someone is using Eclipse
Mauker - You've been here too long too ;) Just less that Adam and Eric
I built a little scenario for how the live stream of a developer would go but the formatting was f-ed up
20:39
Pyrodante - if you can get it hooked up for 30 seconds, switch to tcpip mode?
adb tcpip 5555 then adb connect <ipofdevice>
It's how I code at home while sat in my chair a couple of meters from my 52" screen
And now I'm off since none of you seem to be PDF editing experts ;) See you all tomorrow.
Android Studio
that is what gets me :(
since otto is deprecated now
\o
o/
New event bus?
20:49
not new
it's just rx
Please don't use my thermostat to dox me 😳
ddos on NEST
did they ever make a new nexus 10? or just the one from samsung that came out in 2012?
that twitter is great ahmad
it's a thing
oh what's that Eric?
20:55
my app
XD
Oh nice. What's it do? Are you gonna publish it? Hit me up if you want me to review it on AE.
for the record, i love blues and darks
XD
what does it do :
provide a mobile tool to manage mockup json frameworks for your projects
oh right
we're working on a web framework's front end too right meow
gonna publish it soon
^_^
Nice!
20:57
hope to do it before pennApps
so that's like tomorrow XD
PennApps is in two days though isn't it?
lolol
yeah
well
app is at 85%
it's very simple for now
needs just the attribute creation part
that'll be done this night on the php
and tomorrow on the app
the app will generate a url + a token to put as request http url
whatcha think about the idea?

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