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12:08 AM
Because fuck friends who cancel on you last minute. I'm having my own hackathon.
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12:37 AM
I don't want to work on Cash Caretaker tonight. But I don't know what to do.
 
mr5
12:51 AM
o/
 
o/
mr5 give me an app idea
 
mr5
Make a GAME!
you better moved on with that app
 
What app? And I can't make games I'm not good enough
 
mr5
It's for fun and business as well
 
i'm so fucking busy with my school applications
 
12:52 AM
I'm gonna work on Cash Caretaker tomorrow. I need peace and quiet and my white board haha
 
mr5
Why do you think you're not good enough?
I think you are much better than me. I have made games before so I think it is much easier for you
 
JUSTIN ABDELKADER!
HAT TRICK LESS THAN 24 MINUTES INTO THE HOCKEY GAME!
WHOO!
I don't have game experience which is why it's not easy.
I just need to learn.
 
mr5
Have one then
 
I need some icons
@jyoon you're up
 
mr5
thank me l8r
 
12:54 AM
grrr
I'll thank you nev8r
 
WAit
 
It makes sense. I swear it does
 
mr5
nice 3y m8, giv u 8/8
 
@TristanWiley Nevermind. I got this.
 
mr5
I thought it is called flat designs?
 
12:58 AM
No, it's Material Design. They are different lol
 
@cM what icons
 
How many homework tracking apps are out there? How stupid would it be to make another one?
 
edline <- most popular
but it's literally shit, trust me
 
?? edline?
 
And it's generally a stupid idea to build stuff for schools
because teachers don't like change (even after 10 years)
 
1:02 AM
I was thinking a helpful companion for students
 
mr5
Hmm Material designs and Flat designs are visually similar but I have found this so I think they are right.
 
idk. just another productivity app idea
 
it is
I used it
 
Oh okay.
Idk, it'll never beat like Evernote or something
 
advice: build something that has never existed before
like my Aim Assistant
btw, anyone notice the way El Capitan renders low resolution images? they look more smoother now
 
mr5
1:05 AM
This is good
 
WOW
I just built an app with the nav drawer template
so fucking sick
 
@mr5 isn't that literally in the docs
 
mr5
Dunno I just found it somewhere else lol
 
@jyoon Damn near impossible.
 
Damn
I was trying to get that effect and I gave up
 
mr5
1:07 AM
What's that?
AS for Android device? lol
 
Android Studio
No, it's the default Navigation Drawer project template
I just created the project and ran it
that's what they gave me lmao
 
Why don't we make a room-15 collaboration project
 
mr5
So you're going to write code using your mobile phone?
 
no
I write code in Android Studio
 
@mr5 there is an ide for android: it's called AIDE
 
1:10 AM
I'm saying that code is in the project automatically. Did you upgrade to Android Studio 1.4? You know how when you create a new project it gives you a list of sample activities to start with? Select the Nav Drawer one, and that's what you get.
 
mr5
I don't know but I think it is hard to write code using the virtual keyboard in Android.
 
@McAdam331 you don't get the joke?
 
I guess it's all over my head
 
mr5
@McAdam331 yeah but I'm referring to which device you will use the software
 
@mr5 that's the automatically generated default template by Android Studio
 
mr5
1:14 AM
@jyoon yes. What I mean is, it is hard to write code using the virtual keyboard of Android in mobile phones or in tablet unless you are using an external keyboard
 
idk the reviews for the on device ide is pretty good
i guess you get used to it
 
mr5
But what about the Android SDK? It is huge! Or it just come with the current version you are running that IDE.
 
@jyoon I need an app icon for a mileage tracker app and an "Add vehicle info" icon. I have a couple thoughts on them
 
OK
Got an idea
 
mr5
1:34 AM
Got an eyegasm while looking through Material design docs o.O
 
haha
 
mr5
where's the eye version of this
 
I usually fake eyegasm just so the docs will buy me dinner.
 
mr5
 
there you go
 
mr5
1:38 AM
haha
I hate them
Y didn't I get their talent
 
@codeMagic for the app icon just use a speed meter with a tire outline, and for the icon I would just use a + icon (sorry don't have time)
 
2:06 AM
o/ ola
 
2:20 AM
HELL YES. LGRW. 4-0 win to start the season.
I'm gonna spam room-15 with red wings updates more than @Mauker spams it with thesis issues.
 
2:31 AM
Oh
OH
OMG
I HAVE A BLOG POST IDEA
Meh maybe not
 
Oh
OH
OMG
I HAVE AN APP IDEA
Meh maybe not
 
lol
 
3:06 AM
I really doubt it @McAdam331
o/
Room-15 is so empty right now
SPAM TIME
 
3:19 AM
 
NOES
 
3:43 AM
Representing Room 15 at Kent Hack Enough 2015. khe.io
 
neat, spam.
 
Tasty spam
 
Now AS even gets you warnings for hardcoding the text in setText()
 
It's getting better everyday
forcing us to be better programmers
Like: Hey, see this? You're being lazy.
Or
Hey, this is stupid. You can make it better
Or if you have lots of warnings, it's like: You're not good for I.T.
 
Or 'hey, this might cause an NPE, so we're going to warn you and ignore the fact that you might now wtf you're doing and don't feel you need an if statement'
 
3:58 AM
It'll end up like this some day
XKCD predicting the future since ever
@McAdam331 Can I ask you one last thing before I go to bed?
 
You can.
 
Oh shit. I just did.
`cursor = db.rawQuery(
"SELECT MAX(" +
AccelerometerContract.AccelerometerEntry.COLUMN_ID + ") FROM " +
AccelerometerContract.AccelerometerEntry.TABLE_NAME,
null);`
WHY U NOT WORK?
Trying do to something like: SELECT MAX(id) FROM table;
 
what is the second parameter for? the 'null'?
Also, what's not working with it?
Looks alright to me.
 
public Cursor rawQuery (String sql, String[] selectionArgs)
 
oh gotcha
 
4:07 AM
int index is always -1
 
Because your COLUMN_ID is not in your projection
also, keep in mind, that this is a poorly designed query. If you're selecting the MAX() value, the id is irrelevant. You won't get the ID for the max value unless you do a self join.
 
id was a poor name design actually
it's not the primary key :p
 
OH
OKAY WAIT
Here's what happens
When you select MAX(_id) it doesn't return '_id' as the column name
So change your raw query to something like SELECT MAX(_id) AS maxID FROM myTable; and inside your moveToNext use getColumnIndex("maxID")
 
Oh
Okay, wait
And I'll change that damn name
 
That's up to you. It's not a requirement ha
 
4:11 AM
Yeah, but it'll be better to read later
It's like... test number
I'm using this to keep track of each test I'm performing
Like:
test_num | timestamp | X | Y | Z
 
okay
 
Let me try that
be back in a bit
God dammit
You were right Adam
And I don't even need to run it
hahahaha
Just realized what was wrong.
Fuck me right?
I'm stupid.
3
 
Are you gonna buy me dinner first?
 
hahahahahhahaha
Just cause you asked nicely
but hey, I made a good progress with that today.
I'm happy
 
Nice.
I'm making no progress on this productivity app I want to make lol
 
4:16 AM
I also have like two or three personal projects that are... halted.
I need a day with 48 hours.
 
If they invented a drug that would no longer require humans to sleep I would buy it.
But I would keep it on the DL so I can take the extra 6 hours to be more productive than everyone else and profit
 
OH GOD IT'S WORKING
THANK YOU ADAM
Now I need to move that database to my handheld
and profit
 
<3
 
I'll be able to test da shit
 
Right, but see, following that article, if I had this drug secretly, I could circumvent the whole social process.
 
4:20 AM
Funny thing is...
 
My boss won't ask why I didn't respond to that email at 3 AM because he won't know I was up at 3 am lol
 
I'll have to literally fall to test it.
hahahaha
That will be fun
 
LOL
 
Imagine the defense
"And to demonstrate my research, I'll show how it works" falls
Best thesis ever
 
That reminds me of a great joke.
This women at the ATM asked me to help her check her balance so I pushed her over.
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4:26 AM
HAHAHAHAH
Well
Gotta go
I'll travel in... 5 hours or so
need to sleep a bit
See ya, and thanks again Adam
Night everybody
 
o/ night
 
5:16 AM
is codeMagic James?
 
user457812
5:44 AM
I think I might need to start marking my Twitter account as adults-only.
 
5:57 AM
We ditched our hackathon project four hours in. Help us with ideas.
 
Yo Shinobis
user image
3
 
 
2 hours later…
7:45 AM
@TheLittleNaruto Lol, what does that word mean to you? I haven't heard that in maybe 10 years.
Also, that comic is brilliant.
@TristanWiley Man on the moon! Wait I think that was done...umm Top 10 Buzzfeed Article Generator, yeah that's innovation.
 
@eski Shinobis are nothing but Ninjas ^^
 
lol that's what I thought and then I googled and found a whole bunch of other stuff.
 
Well here I meant "Android Ninjas". :)
Anyway Do you have some time ?
I have got just few things to ask.
1. What design approach do you use mostly for developing Applications ?
2. How do you do testing ?
Just that two. ^
 
8:30 AM
Anyone know C++?
 
\o
 
9:01 AM
o/
Tristan, me
 
Nevermind, they fixed it.
 
 
1 hour later…
10:04 AM
I get really upset and confused at why no one is on at midnight, or two am, or 5 am...
 
...
 
Haven't slept
 
why ?
 
khe.io
 
10:29 AM
how's the hackathon @Tristan?
did you find a team?
 
hi Ahmad,
 
o/ bb
React Native is the future for teams who build crappy Cordova-type apps to build slightly less crappy native apps.
OMG SO TRUE
 
never heard of. do you use it ?
 
react?
 
yep,
 
10:34 AM
it's that framework from fb
just like phonegap etc
 
ok
 
yep, I just googled it. Are you still @Wunderlist?
 
o/
 
\o
 
11:07 AM
-1
Q: setVisibility(View.VISIBLE) doesn't show TextView

Olaf DietscheI have the following Layout in res/layout/main.xml with the second TextView hidden <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <LinearLayout xmlns:android="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android" android:layout_width="match_parent" android:layout_height="match_parent">...

 
11:33 AM
yep I am @Blackbelt
 
o/
 
my recyclerview isn't behaving properly
piece of crap
 
o/
 
11:48 AM
Hello everyone
 
hello
 
Hi
Can I write O(n+m) = O(n), if m has similar value as n (or is smaller)?
 
12:22 PM
@Ahmad hackathon is good, ended up going solo.
I need some help if anyone can help me
 
@tristan oh noes, why didn't you go to team formation?
but kays, I did solo once as well, was fun
what's your problem?
 
Can you call? Hangouts?
 
sorry can't call rn :|
 
Damn okay, can I still ask for help?
 
yup
 
1:04 PM
Are there any significant benefits of using a recyclerview over a listview?
 
you can switch easily the layout manager
which is fixed in the listview
notify changes on a single item
which reduces the amount of time wasted in redundant drawing
 
Thanks
 
yw
 
@Luke yes you can, as long as m ≤ C*n, where C is constant, or C1 ≤ C ≤ C2, and C1,C2 are constant
 
1:18 PM
thanks tristan
 
recyclerview is cool — it implements detailed data updates (not only notifyDataSetChanged), and these updates are animated
afaik, this is not possible at all with listview
also, it decouples layout from recycling, that's cool, because one might define new ways of arranging items on screen without rewriting everything
it doesn't do some things that ListView does, but they are relatively easy to add by yourself
 
1:35 PM
omg
 
Thanks Sarge
 
for practical purposes, not only big-oh complexity does matter
 
1:59 PM
@TheLittleNaruto Sorry I didn't mean to ignore your questions, fell asleep. My design approach lately is material (everything is ink/paper layering on top of each other) and "tweening" all transitions smoothly between each other. Keep everything as simple as possible.
Ideally I'd do test driven development with a mixture of unit tests and espresso tests, but I don't do much of that for the apps I make in my free time.
 
@McAdam331 links in those blue areas on your blog have invisible text (white on white)
 
2:32 PM
I need some help
 
@Mauker 72%, display was off most of the time
 
I have a TableLayout and I am programmically adding TableRows, there are a bunch so it goes blow the view and requires you to scroll. I want to make it so it fits the view and vertically and doesn't require you to scroll.
 
you're trying to make each row the same size and fit them all into the screen?
 
Use a linearlayout and add the rows programatically, with MATCH_PARENT and equal weights
I'm not totally sure it's the best design though
 
2:40 PM
It's a hackathon, it just has to work on my phone for now :P
 
do you want them to resize or have a fixed number of rows with equal size?
 
I'm going to have 9 rows, always.
 
why tablelayout then?
 
It's a periodic table
 
I'd try LinearLayout first as eski said
you could also define it statically
 
2:45 PM
It's a grid basically
 
yeah but table layout is awful and you should never use it
 
^
 
use a LinearLayout with weights like eski said
 
But. I'm basically done.
I'm just going to use this TableLayout because hackathon and not enough time to switch since I finished it.
 
3:30 PM
The larry david episode of comedians in cars getting coffee is amazing
 
3:52 PM
omg this is so awesome
 
4:06 PM
Can you change a project name in AS?
Like, I haven't submitted it or anything but I made a typo. Can I refactor the package and everything or should I build a new project and just copy the three files I've made?
 
back to square one
recyclerview won't display
if it had a name it would be bastard
 
@McAdam331 yes just update the package names accordingly and everything works
 
wow
i'm stupid
ffffffff
I changed my layout_height to match_parent and now it works
 
 
1 hour later…
5:33 PM
just changed from spotify premium for 10€ to 5€
yay for being a student \o/
omg
megabus is also in germany now
travelling for 3€?!
 
Hey guys!!! Finished my hack! Now to make it look nice
 
\O/
pic
we need pics
 
Haha okay, it looks kinda shitty now. I have about 20 hours left.
 
Since carl hasn't been around, I'll fill in. Here's a cool song Ahmad: soundcloud.com/eruanis/eddd
 
How did you finish your hack in 16 hours
 
5:44 PM
@eski yee, listenin
 
@McAdam I didn't have you slowing me down
 
ouch
 
It was actually more like 9 hours since I didn't start until 4am this morning
 
But did you build a pizza planet website using AngularJS? No. I bet you didn't.
 
Holy shit, I just realized. 9 fucking hours
 
5:51 PM
 
lol
 
6:16 PM
@SteveG So far this is true. I'm still in the 'Neat!' phase.
 
6:38 PM
yeah
you should look at custom directives fi you haven't figured those out yet -- really helpful
 
6:52 PM
I'm learning directives right now!
Using codecademy to learn something new
 
Curious what people think of this idea I had:
A lexical sound library with an API
 
A job listing for Amazon when it was just a startup: groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/mi.jobs/poXLCW8udK4/…
 
7:13 PM
21 years ago wow
The cool thing now is that you can just build APIs for other people to build stuff.
 
wow thats cool
 
7:36 PM
The day in the future from the movie Back To The Future 2 is coming in 11 days I think.
 
NEat! Someone wants me to review their app!
People are apparently finding my blog.
 
So they want the marketing? Or is it actually a decent app?
 
Idk yet I'm about to install it
 
Or do you get to shit on it and tell the truth if it sucks?
 
I could.
Although it looks alright. The idea is kinda silly. It's an app for keeping track of app ideas haha
 
7:43 PM
so another notetaker app?
 
evernote is pretty good for that
My system for keeping track of ideas is to text them to myself
It looks like that app has a nice material design and color scheme to it.
My other method if it's an application or library idea that I really like I'll put it in my journal that has a list that I ranked in terms of time to release a first version, and value.
 
Yeah the UI is pretty nice.
 
Adam, do you hope to be able to make a living off of your own apps and stuff at some point or are you just ok with doing them for fun while working at someone else's company?
 
Damn. That's a good question because I've never thought about it like that. I'm hoping that one day I can make Android apps for a company, but at one point I hope I can make money off the apps I do make in my free time as well. I never considered making a living off of my own work though.
 
7:56 PM
Really? I'm curious why you would never consider it.
 
Insecurities? I never considered I could.
 
I bet you could, it wouldn't be easy though
 
I'm going to be trying to soon and it'll be hard as hell
 
I really need to crack down one day and get these repeating transactions working for Cash Caretaker. I want to get the new UI update out ASAP because I don't feel like the published version really represents what I can do.
 
7:59 PM
Yeah trust me I know how that feels
 
But I'm doing alright. Someone obviously saw my blog and decided they value my opinion enough to look at their app. The few employers I've reached out to are interested in me.
 
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