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11:00
something as simple as a snackbar is crashing my app
gah
Graphene. that was the name.
i used an external lib for snackbars
to make it work on pre lollypop
which one did you use?
lemme gradle it
should cut down on app size as well since i don't need the entire design library just for snackbars
11:03
thanks
Quick Q, Which is the ListView which allows you to expand and contract child members?
It's like, CollapsableListView or something?
ExpandableListView i believe
expandable
yeah
Correct - quite cynical of me ;)
Red_ look at this one too
seems more personalizable
i used both long time ago
(aka : last app)
11:09
hmm not sure if I need all that, will probably do all that with the new redesign we've got planned
looking at this one: github.com/MrEngineer13/SnackBar
simble and efficient. good.
when i need inspiration or libs
i come here
thats pretty cool
11:25
How the hell do I turn off auto brightness?? It's freaking annoying. I turn it down and then it gets bright again. Might be a setting of my rom (resurrection remix, takes things from most of the popular roms)
Snackbars are so tiny, damn, can barely get any information across
they are just for hints / tips / small infi
info*
back to toast! :D
Can't you make snackbars bigger? Never used them yet.
11:41
i think you can make it somewhat slightly bigger, but not much
i'm just trying to add in information about why they need a permission after they've denied it but oh well, i'm going to create a sperate banner for that now
a dialog would be more agressive
"oh sorry i need internet to work, please allow me to use it".
or "how do you expect this camera app to work if you do not allow it to take photos and acces storage? magic?"
12:01
Hey guys if you got time. We open sourced something and would like help from you guys
Thanks =)
good idea
there are always some guys who love to work for free :)
btw, what exactly does it do that's not already done out of the box?
Android has HTTPS support since a long time ago
For using self signed certificates or mutual SSL authentication
oh, that's nice
cool Law Gimenez. Unfortunately I don't know much about http and https and volley and okhttp to give a lot of feedback.
Yeh pardon the code, it's my first time publishing such thing.
12:09
I think we already have something like that in our app. but only using volley
Why is it using both volley and okhttp?
@LawGimenez you should call it Volley Spike
OkHttp was the easiest implementation for using SSL. And it's Jake Wharton
13:03
Remember another day (I think yesterday?) when someone posted a video of someone bypassing the lockscreen by copypasting a really long string. I'm doing the same in my app and the memory tab is all spiky. pretty interesting.
always nice when your computer randomly restarts
Especially during exams or presentations :)
I had that problem, but, only on windows
I want a good OS...
I"m having fun with these pretty memory graphs and trying to make them go higher lol! =D
It's pretty interesting the memory usage is normally stable except when you have a ridiculously long string
i've had it more on mac
just black screen and a restart
13:16
o/
13:27
o/ mauker
Did you get my message last night?
@McAdam331 I'm sending them an email, perhaps someone missed that "accent" part or thought it was a good idea to use it as primary.
I forgot to press enter lol
hahahaha
Oh, haha! Yeah, that's just my two cents. But I think the idea that there's no color darker than A700 to use as the StatusBar is the main deal breaker for me, but if this is a work project then branding is important, too.
ALTHOUGH, my last blog post has a couple websites you can use to find a color palette based around a single hex code, to help with branding. ;P
Oh, thanks!
hahaha
But anyways I'm sending them an email to clarify those things.
Cool. Let me know what they say, just out of pure curiosity if you don't mind.
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm. -Winston Churchill
I will, no problem at all.
Thanks for the help! That was bugging me.
13:35
is there an intent to take a user to the permissions yet?
in the device settings
Not sure.
13:51
Nice post @McAdam331
Thanks!
they need to sort of the permissions groups asap, i'm going to be asking for permissions like GET_ACCOUNTS and to the user that is going to look weird as hell
@Hudixt Welcome. Please read and follow the room rules room-15.github.io
o/ cM
o/ Mac
13:56
What's going on?
Working
Have a lot to do
Was supposed to have a meeting at 9:30 that one of the owners wanted but of course he isn't here
Hi, Mauker
Hi cM
he all
hi*
13:57
Nice. I have a busy day as well. About to stop in at the career fair at my university, I have to call a potential sponsor about our hackathon, then class and even a Tigers game tonight.
And now my friend is here so we're going to the career fair now. o/
I have a lot planned for my personal app but I promised my girlfriend I'd work on my cover letter tonight. ugh
Awesome! Enjoy!
I've been a good boy and staying out of this room today until I heard the access request :/
good luck adam!
Hi cM, get back to work! :D
@McAdam331 I saw that earlier, it's nice! :)
14:13
hey miva
It's okay to use the same id name for my fragment containers in two xml files right?
o/
I guess so
should be ok
okay~
It all depends on where you're inflating, so... should be safe
14:15
They should never be inlfated at the same time.
If I do it anyway, will it crash or just return the first?
Yes it was :D
hahahaha
You saw before I've deleted it xD
You saw before I edited
Allright, gonna test
And well, I guess it depends. I mean, you're going to have the reference for both fragments, right?
If you hear on the news something about a giant explosion in belgium, it's because i used the same id
4
Hahahahha
Okay
Again, you should be safe.
Or not...
you alive?
14:33
Sorry to make you so worried, it worked perfectly! ;D It was my log that didn't work because I imported wrong class haha. So I had to try 3 times lol
i'm in class.
You have classes? I thought you work
morning hard worker, afternoon hard student, night hard vigilante.
You have classes? I thought you procedural.
studying 3d, modelling, animation and videogame creation
14:34
You're pretty hardcore ;D
today first classes
Ah cool, where?
@Mauker there 2 traits do intersect
in a superior studies center in my city.
WHat are you using? I used 3dsMax before, was fun
Can't do shit in Blender though.
14:36
max 16, mudbox 16, zbrush 4r7, unity 5.1, autodesk ReCap, After Effects, Premiere.
that looks more advanced than I ever did :D
yet we're not at the same level as a university graduate thanks to our crappy government.
I think mudbox was included in my license but I don't even know what that is lol
similar to zbrush but from autodesk
If there is no equivalent university course it doesn't matter
14:38
but we can't get state grants
if this course was on UK /USA, it would be a college degree.
I also did a gamedevelopment course. Because it was one of the only courses in belgium it doesn't matter if it's uni or not
ah its different in espagna? :/
brb, I really need to take a shit now. and don't like these toilets.
still categorized as "professional education", aka : post-highschool education for the people that don't want to go to the UNI.
14:51
@miva2 Thanks, Miva!
Woohoo! I won the PC Gamer Wildstar Beta Key Giveaway! :)
Gratz!
@Hudixt removed access since you left. Feel free to request again
14:57
We have a leaver? :o
grratz
first class of the year: postproduction
Any tips on customizing a android.support.v7.widget.SearchView that's on my Toolbar?
it must work.
that's a good customization.
on click in the search icon, the edittext should appear, that's a good animation too.
15:06
My Samsung phone is shitty to the extent that I might actually throw it away;
The phone system suddenly crashes and people calling me think I don't want to pick their calls;
then also regularly turns itself off
@cM, you know something about these samsung stuff? :P
these phones are too smart for such boring stuff like plain old GSM calls
Hm, that's not exactly what I was trying to ask haha. I mean, how can I customize it?
imagine if you were a smart phone — would you want to work that way?
What about a SmartGuy instead
@TristanWiley LOL Wildstar is still in beta?? I played that on gamescom like........ 4 or 5 years ago? xD
15:09
shrug
It was next to the big GuildWars 2 stuff, that recently got announced then.
Een, sounds like my SE phone. My samsung phone works fine.
Think I found a way.
Which phone is it, Een?
Samsung Galaxy S3; I have a S5 too but this has been acting up lately
ooh boy this is outrageous stuff in the news today:
I have a S II and S4
the newer is pissing me off.
15:19
meanwhile, on countries with national healthcare system...
That dude is horrible; evil and should be shut down
That is called business?
Look what I found
Quick question guys, does all 2d game development should be on NDK? or are there any SDK?
15:21
that's cute
I have an S3 and it restarts quite often
Woah, from $13 to $750? O.o
> babies born to women
wtf those medicines...
we live in a sad world ;__;
That's horrible, Een!
@Cjames You're best using any of the popular game engines like Unity, Unreal or any other that support android (assuming that is your platform). Under the hood they will most likely use the NDK
Or you can try doing some stuff in the canvas if you are just starting out and just want to make something simple
15:25
I see so I'll be coding back to C language I guess ~_~
WHat are you trying to do and what are your options?
I would seriously punch that moron in the face!
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So would I
@Cjames en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_game_engines This might be useful to look at.
@miva2 looks like a simple app, I need your holly guidance on this of what should I do
15:29
Chess anyone?
at toronto pearson
finally time to go home
back to every day life lol
Safe travels
novoda.com/blog/styling-the-actionbar-searchview Is this still the best way to, let's say, change the close icon on the SearchView?
anyone? :(
15:47
@TristanWiley yeah
sorry, too late
16:13
o/
\o
where have you been Adam?
Career fair this morning.
Did you find one?
I talked to a few that were interested.
9/10 employers who come to our school are looking for ME/EE for the automotive industry, but talked to a few guys into Android devs.
What kind of careers were you thinking? Accounting, hotel staff, mechanic? wasn't fast enough for my joke
16:17
@CarlAnderson taught me how to be faster than you.
He's a good teacher
user457812
> This is why I love JavaScript!
user457812
WAT
user457812
These people are fucking crazy.
16:20
hey guys quick question. Does any one know how to remove the space between cards pre 5.0?
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Q: Why there is no space between CardViews on Lollipop?

cajsaikoI try to use the CardView and it works well below 5.0, but looks strange on Lollipop. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <LinearLayout xmlns:android="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android" android:layout_width="match_parent" android:layout_height="match_parent" android:orientation="...

its the above question but the opposite
remove the padding XD
I did
seems to have no affect
or atleast its being ignored
android:paddingBottom="@dimen/activity_vertical_margin"
android:paddingLeft="@dimen/activity_horizontal_margin"
android:paddingRight="@dimen/activity_horizontal_margin"
android:paddingTop="@dimen/activity_vertical_margin" to 0?
If not padding, margin.
^dat
something is messed up if that's not workin
16:24
user image
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Am I famous?
meh seems to have no affect
<android.support.v7.widget.CardView

android:layout_width="match_parent"
android:layout_height="wrap_content"
app:cardUseCompatPadding="false"
android:layout_margin="0dp"
android:padding="0dp">
@McAdam331 you got two alarm notifications there
Nice catch, Netpork.
@Naveed And you only have this problem on <5.0 devices?
yes
Very interesting.
16:25
looks fine on 5.0+
@jyoon Just saw this. I'm in Michigan.
@Naveed Did you try setting useCompatPadding to true? stackoverflow.com/questions/29068430/…
@McAdam331 I want that book so hard.
Why not get it?
what book?
@McAdam331 tried that also still seems to be about 2 dp of space between cards idk where its coming from
16:31
Since Adam is famous now, I hope he still finds time to hang around here
I'll never forget you guys
that sounds weird naveed
thanks :)
placing a cardview in a recycler without paddings didn't separate them on my case
No moneysx
16:32
2nd class of the day : game engines. teacher's not here, so free time.
and dollar got too damn high here.
Well, when you can afford it, I would. When you buy the book, you can download the PDF and keep it forever, you just won't get any more future updates when your subscription runs out.
^ nice model
Is it still just $45/yr?
I think so
16:35
i@CptEric the issue is only on pre 5.0 it doesn't separate them on lolipop
It was when I bought it, cM.
Trying to test these new values I'm sending in crashlytics but they don't seem to be sending. This is boring
oops, didn't change the boolean variable. That wasn't very smart of me
It's a good idea to use a smartwatch to identify if someone falled on the ground using the accelerometer?
i'd also check hearth rate
for a peak
Yeah, but that'd be hard to verify with an accelerometer.
16:44
yeah
it could be just stretching hands
or waving
Yeah...
You could test for an average
if you see a downward acceleration that equals about 3/4 feet perhaps they fell? You're unlikely to wave your hand that whole distance.
average distance*
and then a sudden stop
Yeah.
Good idea
@Naveed if i was you i'd make a clean test on a new project
16:47
I'm probably going to write my thesis based on health and care, so I was thinking of an app to monitor those things...
maybe some lib or config is giving troubles
cool
oh btw, my company is about to release a defibrilator management system
@Mauker Then you'll need a scholarly reference on the idea, right? analog.com/library/analogdialogue/archives/43-07/…
CMS + app + sensor trackign via api
Woah Adam! Thank you so much!
16:49
<3
And that was bloody quick lol
hahaha
Haha. I am a CE, I've googled around for accelerometer tricks before lol
I'll try to talk to my professor soon... And talk to him about that idea
I literally only have to do that to finish my major lol
maybe you could check google fit API
Good idea Eric
if it's an app dedicated to common people, i'd use messages to promote healthy exercise / life
like, a snackbar / toolbar telling you that " come on, you just need to walk 15 min more to achieve your daily quota! go buy some bread, walk the dog..."
16:55
worst commute ever
why does the president of China have to visit Seattle? can someone tell me this?
I'm targeting old people
For health monitoring
and emergencies
specially if this old person lives alone
that's cool.
would be also cool tro track from time to time user's location to see if he's too far away from usual zones or if he passes by the same spot several times ( lost )
atleast to notify their familiars if an errant pattern is found
Good idea!

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