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04:54
hi pengwang, where are you based? afaik proxy tools don't work for FB and twitter anymore, only vpn
which tool are you using?
btw: i'm based in guangzhou.
 
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08:59
Hm.. anything going on here?
hi
I'm here
hello World
dingdong :)
I want to install Android emulator in my Windows PC. to check website compatibility on Android browser.
09:02
@pengwan
USE RAINY DAYS :)
hihi
and hi
@pengwang: but I wonder why most of Chinese have not gotrid of IE6
whoops
thanks for the ui-tools Roman
love them
09:03
@RomanNurik: Enter Key does not complete the word :D
@Volatil3 ugh :-) I guess it's TAB
@Hugo Sure, glad you're using them. Hoping to find time in the next few weeks to push updates.
@RomanNurik When Google is going to open Android App store for Asian countries so that developers can sell their apps?
yep, helps me as design-impaired dev
Any resources btw on how to create actionbars as seen in the twitter app etc?
@Volatil3 We can't comment on future updates; we did launch support in a bunch of new countries recently though, some in Asia (see our blog for details).
thanks, I think I already seen that one, it's the app for IO 2010 right?
09:07
why is there no android HIG?
@RomanNurik I am from Pakistan, Android development is getting quite popular here due to availability of tools for Windows(Unlike Apple tools which are costly) but devs are facing problem to promote their paid apps
and i dont mean icon guidelines
@Hugo yep, no other resources currently for action bars that i'm aware of
@fhucho the current guidelines are out of date and not comprehensive -- a known bug. updating them is on our todo list, all i can say at the moment
@RomanNurik - will there be a better layout editor in the future ? Layouts are getting quite complicated
something to prototype and then hand tweak the xml later would be much appreciated
@Naseer being worked on. stay tuned and track platform/sdk.git (on which work is done entirely in the open). for example, look at platform/sdk.git/eclipse.changes.txt. one of the more recent changelog items is "Completely rewritten Visual Layout Editor. This is very much a work in progress."
@Naseer and also: designbycode.tumblr.com/post/1079612795 (my thoughts on layout editors)
09:19
What would you guys recommend for integrating analytics into your apps?
And should you do that at all?
Google Analytics, Flurry, suggestions?
Thanks Roman - that is an insightful post
@OctavianDamiean cool avatar dude :-)
09:24
anyone else totally forgot about DroidCon? except you Roman :D
me idiot missed all the informations about it and now its too late :(
@Naseer also for UI prototyping i released some stencils for the Pencil prototyping tool that may help: code.google.com/p/android-ui-utils
Thank you ! That looks useful - wan't aware of this.
I was about to start a UI WYSIWYG project based on HTML5/javascript till I figured it would not be that helpful as one might think. Now I know that to really understand how Android works you should really design your interface by hand
hello
@OctavianDamiean That would be awesome. At the very least for prototyping. There is ALWAYS room for more tools
09:31
how to install Android emulator in Windows 7 PC?
@metalgearsolid developer.android.com/sdk/index.html .. are you having a particular problem installing the SDK on Windows 7?
Just download the SDK for windows, make sure that JDK is installed and use the tools in the android_sdk/tools directory and of course take a look at developer.android.com
@Octavian anything that can generate code cleanly for mundane stuff is always welcome - Hand editing is necessary - but that doesn't mean some of the mundane tasks can't be automated - not looking for a Frontpage type of tool but for something much smarter
I downloaded but nothing happens when i click on "emulator.exe"
@metal
09:33
@metalgearsolid it's a command line tool, and it expects command line arguments
$metalgearsolid - you need to setup an avd
use eclipse to set it up
I followed this tutorial whyandroid.com/android/… but emulator screern not coming for me
@RomanNurik - one more question - I also work on Android Native Code ( I work for Qualcomm porting Android) Are there better tools to work with native libraries from an IDE like eclipse ?
@RomanNurik I'm trying to create a menu icon using asset studio, and I have the icon in svg. It appears that dropping the svg into res/clipart/icons doesn't work, don't know if that should work?
For example - I want to build and debug Qualcomm's gralloc or copybit libs from eclipse
09:36
@Naseer Eclipse does have C support and gnu tools, I guess that would work?
hmm I mean I'm sure most of us know about DroidDraw which is really nice but still it is not what I was looking for when I was new to android development so I was thinking that it might be cool to have a real visual UI toolkit with all of androids UI functionality but admittedly this is an enormous task
@Naseer not right now that i'm aware of.. the NDK is pretty much command line only. there may be community tools, dunno
@Hugo yeah at the moment to get SVG's to show up in clipart you need to modify the JS sources and recompile the asset studio.. and unfortunately i haven't yet open sourced the JS compilation framework dependency (called flintjs)... but dragging the SVG onto the field or using the 'Image' option should work
so I guess you guys do most of the native development(on the core framework) via the command line and gdb ?
@ro
eh
right, tab
@RomanNurik ok, I'll try that then
@Roman Nurik wow very impressive the android-ui-utils video
09:39
Yup, using as an image works great
@Naseer the core native dev team, not sure. not my area of expertise, i'll admit.. may want to ask on the NDK mailing list or ask on Stack Overflow tagging android-ndk and eclipse or such
@OctavianDamiean Thanks! And hopefully much more to come as soon as I have time or as soon as others would like to contribute!
well given that I wanted to start off something similar I'm sure interested in contributing as far as possible
I just want to run theEmulator to check websites on Android browser.
@metalgearsolid once you've got the SDK installed it's not all that difficult.. you don't even need Eclipse. just run the 'android' tool to create an AVD, choosing the right device configuration, and then run 'emulator -avd myAvdName' from the command line
@RomanNurik Thanks - Don't think it is related to NDK though since I have to work on some of the system libs and JNI is not involved at all.
09:47
@Naseer oh right right.. i'm in application-developer-land so i don't have much insight into the core native eng stuff :-) pardon my ignorance!
great chatting with you all, hope to see you back here some other time
@RomanNurik Android is great in many areas, but I wish Google focused more on user experience (by that I mean especially aesthetics, polish, simplicity, easy to understand UI etc).
@Roman - What options i should fill in the screen where we make AVD?
@RomanNurik Thanks for chatting with us ! It was great actually talking to someone on the inside :)
@fhucho from the rumors of Gingerbread this is quite exactly what the focus was on
@metalgearsolid choose which version of android you want to work with - 2.2 and make an sdcard image
@fhucho - it's eveloving rapidly - it will get there
09:54
@Roman -Please check I'm on this screen shup.com/Shup/429327/110924152330-My-Desktop.png . What options i should fill. I just want to check websites compatibility with the most popular and most used models of Android.
I hope Gingerbread will bring some improvement in this, but to be honest I'm quite sceptical. It will probably be some small, incremental improvement.
@me
@metalgearsolid screenshot doesn't work
@metalgearsolid you should fill in a name
Whoa you can get @ replies even when offline..
@metalgearsolid and select a target, like "API Level 8" for the 2.1
@metalgearsolid the rest is optional
10:03
I wonder what software this chat is based on? Looks like some sort of campfire chat to me
@metalgearsolid you may not have installed the SDK platforms. in the 'android' tool click on 'Available Packages' then expand the dl-ssl... and select 'SDK Platform Android 2.2' and others and install them. then they should be available in the 'Target' dropdown when you try to create a new AVD
@Hugo - Target option is disabled for me.
@metalgearsolid what Roman said :) You should first download the target packages
Editing your reply in a chat room is a littlebit funky btw
@Roman - Thanks. there are many other things on list. if i just need to run android browser. then other than "SDK Platform Android 2.2, what other things i should select and and download.
@metalgearsolid that's the only one you need. i've gotta run for real this time though, good luck!
10:09
@Roman Nurik bye
@Roman - THanks. I thought SDK will have everything to run emulator, but it was not :)
10:39
@TomTasche dere! :D
hallo @oct
upps
hallo @OctavianDamiean
man trifft selten auf Österreicher hier :)
man trifft generell selten auf österreicher :P
woher kommst du denn?
Graz
bist du Androidentwickler oder machst du das als Hobby?
schade, das ist doch etwas weiter weg :P
leider nur als hobby... ich bin noch schüler. :S
10:43
achso verstehe aber eh schon ein App veröffentlicht nice
jup ;)
du ich bin später wieder da, vll. schreibt man sich noch
ich kann mir sehr gut vorstellen das auch einmal später zu machen :)
ok
bis dann
 
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13:58
Test
14:32
hi everybody, i have a problem in installing android sdk with eclipse in ubunut,
can anyone in the room help me?
 
3 hours later…
17:11
Hell yeah! :)
 
2 hours later…
19:41
hello
 
4 hours later…
23:28
hello. i have samsung galaxy s 9000. froyo 2.2 is installed. how can i install jre ? thank you
www.java.com
there is no link at java.com for android
Exactly what are you trying to accomplish?
i want to run java app on my samsung galaxy s 2.2 froyo android phone
Sorry, not possible

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