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5:00 PM
at least less longer than walking
 
Another day, another 6 AM pagerduty call
 
should have owned a hedgehog
 
Do you have an actual pager?
 
No, but I get calls on 3 phones and 2 laptops, so it works about as well
 
Actually I've heard that doctors still use pagers because they have longer battery life, and notifications wont get lost in all the mess.
although I assume no one will die if you don't do your job. haha
 
5:13 PM
ironically Raghav slowely dies by his job with lack of sleep
 
A diet consisting only of ice cream and buttery cafe food probably doesn't help either. 😏
 
It's not his diet, its the diet of those poor souls trapped in his basement
 
A lot of countries have done away with the pager networks entirely
Literally won't work even if you buy one, the spectrum has been repurposed
 
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I assume they are just cellular devices that only support receiving sms.
 
5:18 PM
^^ Yo I'm featured in Android Weekly this week. 8)
 
Which thing?
 
@twiz Modern day pagers are integrated into SMS and email, but traditionally they have been on a separate network entirely
In many use cases, such as hospitals or factories, they run an entirely private pager network which won't be usable outside their buildings/grounds
 
That sounds expensive. I suppose maybe they just don't have good mobile service in some of those buildings otherwise?
 
@AdamMc331 noice
 
That, plus paging systems predate mobile networks by a fair bit
 
5:22 PM
An employee of the gasstation I live above is waiting for result of test of corona
 
And are fundamentally different in design
 
if he has it it's very likely I have caught it too
not a problem for me, but perhaps for my collegues who have to visit hospitals quite often to intergrate the software
would explain my cold symptoms a bit
 
That's crazy. Hopefully you don't.
Unfortunately, I think its fairly likely we're all going to end up having a similar story soon.
The amount of people I've heard walking around in public with a horrible hacking cough the past few days is insane. You'd think people would be a little more considerate about such things, given the circumstances.
It's probably just another bug that's going around, but still...
 
You should all join me in buying thermal cameras
Do a temperature check on everyone you come across
 
haha if shit hits the fan, I think I prefer my idea of hiding in Montana.
 
5:30 PM
@twiz indeed... cbsnews.com/news/…
how is everyone doing in these last hours of this fine weekend ?
 
It's kind of pointless to make predictions like that though. It largely depends on if/when a vaccine is released.
 
it's said will take at least 1y for the vaccine to be released (if the tests deem to be successful)
 
🤷‍♂️lots of things are said.
Plus China is probably already testing vaccines on prisoners or something.
 
@twiz I will join you, I am already pracising with fracry
 
5:38 PM
we should just invest in consciousness transfer technology (I just finished Altered carbon s2)
 
what if it goes wrong, do you want to have that on your consciousness?
 
I didn't think of that, but again I don't think it will happen any time in the next 150y, so... :D
 
I have had too much choclate milk
there is more choclate milk waiting for me at home
I still need to have supper, but my stomach hurts
 
lol wtf?
 
my phone just ran out, time to head home soon
 
5:45 PM
That's why I have a powerbank
27000 mAh, can charge my laptop and phones
72W total output
 
and yet you can't even charge yourself with the amount of sleep you have
 
I've made it this far
Just a little bit further till I can retire
 
Didn't you just say you're about to start a business? or was that someone else?
 
Yes, that's part of the retirement process
Should be done with that bit today
 
But wont that likely require years of work?
 
5:56 PM
Possibly
But I have years to give
Can likely still come in way under the average retirement age
All you need is ~15 million to retire comfortably
 
Oh ok. I didn't take "a little bit further" to mean years. haha
'm pretty sure most people retire on a lot less than that.
Obviously it depends on your age and such though.
 
Hard to operate a doomsday bunker reliably unless you're willing to spend a bit
 
The national forests of Montana are free. 😏
 
Land in NZ is cheap, but it's the food, water, physical security that gets you
Hard to ride out an apocalypse without being able to guarantee clean water and reliable power/satellite internet, along with a secure location to store yourself and food
 
Depends on the type of apocalypse.
 
6:01 PM
Gotta plan for the worst, you don't get to pick and choose
 
Yea, but some of them may not be worth living through.
 
Are you willing to leave it to chance over a few million tho?
Money will be worthless in most of them
Might as well spend it and have the option of riding out some of them
 
6:18 PM
o/
 
No.
 
lool
rude
 
~\o/~
 
Adam, what are the odds of your France talk being cancelled now?
 
well, pretty good, but I'm surprised it hasn't yet
As of March 2nd they're staying on: androidmakers.fr/blog/posts/coronavirus
 
6:24 PM
If it does get cancelled, I propose we add "Adam cancelled an entire conference" to the list of things Adam has removed from existence beyond recovery
 
:grimacing:
This was also the first year I got a Google I/O ticket and look what happened
 
The first time I got an I/O ticket they flew me out and covered the ticket costs
Just shows how much less they like you
 
:'(
 
I still have the Chromebook Pixel they gave out that year
 
I heard they don't give stuff away anymore
 
6:26 PM
1 min ago, by Raghav Sood
Just shows how much less they like you
 
wowwww why are you being so mean
I live in America isn't this punishment enough come on now
 
I live in NZ and this room forms about 90% of my human interaction
Gotta keep those bullying skills sharp
 
I miss NZ
 
It's nice how the companies registrar here has a section titled "When your company fails"
Not "If", but "When"
 
Statistically, it is a pretty safe bet.
 
6:32 PM
I work around that by starting multiple companies
 
@CptEric I've increased the number of projects displayed horizontally on larger screens. How does it look now?
hello o/
 
Has anyone here dealt with offering a subscription service through an app? I'm wondering how it should work when its available on both iOS and Android.
 
Subscriptions don't work too well, people can only provide one firstborn
 
Should I just tie it to an email address in my DB or should I have some process for transferring it between iOS or Android if necessary?
 
iirc apple makes all subscriptions (that are purchased through the app) go through their subscription service
@twiz i'd do subscription tied to account not device
makes it easier to switch
(so email)
You can allow only one login token at a time preventing the subscription from being used on multiple devices at the same time, similar to how netflix does it.
 
6:40 PM
I think you are only required to go through Apple's service if the user is subscribing through the app.
 
Yes
> that are purchased through the app
 
Oh, I missed that. ha
 
Its quite annoying however
 
I think it would generally make sense though, since that's probably the preferred payment method for iPhone users.
 
Its annoying because they take a fee.
 
6:46 PM
So when you say tied to account/email, you're basically just updating your DB when you get a subscription from one of the services?
 
yes
 
Ok cool. I'm glad its that simple.
 
It would allow users to use multiple services to subscribe but once they are subscribed they can use it on any device that is logged into their account.
The only thing you have to worry about is account sharing. Not sure how big of deal that is for you.
 
Yea, I think for the moment I can just ignore that.
Just getting users is more of a priority at the moment.
The amount of money I might get right now is so small it barely matters. I can restrict it later if I want.
Which was actually also Netflix's approach. haha
 
can someone help me read docs lol? I built an app a while a go and it works but I want to change something. I use the forwardOut function in the app but i can't figure out what the fuck it does.
 
7:02 PM
I guess it's forwarding requests that come from one ip+port to another ip+port?
That is rather confusing wording. ha
 
hmm, yeah not exactly sure what that means
 
Yea, I'm really not sure.
I don't know what you're doing exactly, but I assume you have a client and server both using that library?
I assume you're forwarding something from one server to another, but I'm not really sure what the docs are saying either.
 
Its supposed to be somehow tunneling my traffic but its really confusing
 
Do you have a specific problem or are you just trying to understand it?
 
basically i am trying to understand what its doing, so i can replicate its behavior. I would like to alter SOCKS traffic but in a different manner than what it is doing.
 
7:19 PM
You probably just copied this: github.com/mscdex/…
 
...yeah looks very similar
 
conn.connect() sets up an ssh connection. And I think conn.forwardOut() is just saying it only accepts requests from 192.168.100.102 on port 8000, then it sends that to 127.0.0.1:80.
conn.forwardOut() is setting up a listener
 
this is my code
stream.pipe(clientSocket).pipe(stream)
thats the weird part. I think thats where the actual tunneling takes place but idk how
 
haha that is indeed confusing
I haven't done anything with streams in a long time. They always confused me.
Although I that's just manipulating the data you receive through the tunnel.
I think its checking if it should "accept" the data (whatever that means), then for some reason stream is piped into itself, then once it's received you update some HTML to say the bytes transferred.
 
what i don't get is why the stream is being piped to the clientSocket and not the other way around
unless that is post tunnel and that is simply sending the data back to the client
 
7:34 PM
hah yea, its hurting my brain. Good luck. 😁
 
shitty docs are the most frustrating thing grrrr
thanks for the good luck lol
 
It is probably difficult to write docs for, since it could be used in a lot of different ways.
 
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spider wave
 
ok i think i got it
i still have no fucking clue how my app works but i think i know how i can replicate its behavior
this docs are just wrong
 
 
2 hours later…
10:04 PM
The company has been set up
Soon, I shall retire
 
 
1 hour later…
11:11 PM
@RaghavSood What is it?
 
A legal entity that allows me to conduct business
 
thanks. totally what I meant
 
Just curious. Is it a website/app type of business that you're coding or is it something else?
Is it a late night cafe?
 
This one is a crypto data platform
Should lead to a few spin offs
Then once I acquire unnecessary amounts of money, I shall open a cafe
 
11:22 PM
Cool stuff.
 
Certainly fun stuff
 
What are you planning to sell, access to APIs for querying crypto data or something?
 
Essentially, yes
That's the core product
You can do spinoffs such as research, media, wallets, etc.
 
Interesting. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "spinoff" though.
 
Largely independent verticals that can exist as independent companies that pull data from the core service
They don't necessarily need to be run by me, some of them would be via partnership in exchange for feedback loops
We'll see how it goes
 
11:40 PM
Makes sense. Cool idea.
 
Yes, it is most excellent
Now all I need is a few million in funding
 
Especially if it can keep up with all the changes that are undoubtably coming for crypto.
Hah why can't you bootstrap it to start?
 
Already past that bit
Only so many hours in a day, even for me
 
Ah I see.
Although, what would you spend millions of dollars on?
 
Humans, servers
10 devs is the working number
Five for blockchain dev, five for platform dev
 
11:45 PM
Well, I mean why can't you sell something without all that?
 
I can't integrate enough blockchains alone, already at 12, and now maintenance outweighs new additions
Need more people
 
i should get into that crypto stuff
 
If I get a few million, that could be arranged
Now I just need to suss out the company bank account and stuff, and then I can be on my way to actually doing work instead of paperwork
 
so much stuff to do
so little time
 
such little time
 
11:50 PM
What is "work" at this point? Harassing VC funds? haha
 
That, plus coding
While the rest happens or doesn't happen, I am still the only one here
So I gotta do the work
Plus my regular job
 
i was running my own business alongside my regular job for 6+ years
and i have to say it, it was super hard
 
I can deal with that
Even if I'm not doing a second business, I'll be doing side projects
So this is really just a side project with more potential than usual
 
yeah, the problem is when you start working on a garbage stuff for money
 
11:54 PM
I fear that ship has sailed, a large chunk of the crypto world is garbage
 
yeah but not like building a social networks for <fill in the blank space>
 
afk, gotta go be disappointed in the banking system
 
@RaghavSood I know you said you left, but are you going to included data around things other than currencies? So many cryptocurrencies are a complete mess, but it seems like there are a lot of big things happening around things like finance related smart-contracts .
 
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