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12:52 AM
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2:41 AM
After I do renewal on lets encrypt ssl cert, the old one that havent expire still valid?
wow, only 6 peoples here
 
It will remain valid until the expiry listed on the old cert
Unless you're in a special case scenario like their March 4th revocations
In which case it will be marked as revoked
 
oh my, i dont even know that, that was a news
well seems my cert still valid..
@RaghavSood thanks
lets encrypt was important to developer... most platform now enforcing https over ssl
 
3:22 AM
codemagic's recent msg dint reveal information about the accident
not sure this is appropriate, what happened to codemagic?
 
His family hasn't shared details
 
3:52 AM
that was sad
 
 
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6:55 AM
hello
 
 
1 hour later…
8:11 AM
@RaghavSood xD
@nyconing accident?
 
hello
I cannot believe this
Now I am sad
 
8:44 AM
Hi
It's gonna be a sad few days, the time the news spread
 
Cool, a republican giraffe
 
9:52 AM
happy birthday @Ahmad
 
10:19 AM
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JIRA?
 
You'll learn, one day
 
eli
11:11 AM
MB check this jira ticket compare with convid-19 virus structure
 
JIRA is pain and woe
 
eli
my company director like JIRA so much
 
 
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12:33 PM
Good morning!
 
eli
12:51 PM
Good evening
 
hell o/
 
1:28 PM
o/
 
o/
 
2:14 PM
o/
 
heyoo
o/
wait
what
is that for real
????????????
oh my god
 
6 hours ago, by Nyakouai
It's gonna be a sad few days, the time the news spread
Hello bb, welcome back
 
Unfortunately, yes...
 
ill be back i need to process this
 
o/
 
2:41 PM
hey jbis
take your time bb... we all had to do it...
 
hi
 
3:00 PM
Hey all, I know this news has been hitting us all pretty hard. I know for me I've been just going through waves throughout the day of just sadness. If anyone needs to talk, vent, or anything about this, please message me. Ping me here and we can chat somewhere. I love you all.
 
<3
 
I don't really get phased by death too often, but this one in particular has rocked me a little bit.. just so.. shocking. Tossing this out there in case he's listening somehow, wherever he is.. but a year (and a bit) ago when I first showed up here, me and cM didn't overly get along too well or like each other THAT much, but we've really come a lot closer since then. It brought me joy to find common ground with him and expand what friendship we could from that.
I never knew him as well as some of you have in here, but I think we can all agree that he was a spectacular coder, and a great person. Rest in peace, brother.
 
3:33 PM
I can't imagine what his children might be going through...so sad
 
Yea, I've been thinking about that too.. very sad
I can't imagine losing my father at that age (I'm actually not exactly sure how old they are, but since he was just 39 I have to imagine pretty young still)
 
Apparently not old enough to remember him
very sad
 
@TristanWiley <3
@ballBreaker <3
 
3:48 PM
yeah very =[
 
4:08 PM
How's everyone's day going otherwise?
 
I found a really great teacher at the uni
he knows a lot of OS
 
Yeah I find operating systems profs are generally super smart guys
usually they're the same ones running the computer architecture courses
 
And in many cases coming from a physics background
 
Yeah that's true, or electrical engineering if not physics
 
Running virtual OS on a weak dual core sucks...
I should do something about it
 
4:16 PM
yeah I'm pretty sure even raspberry pi's are quad core at this point bro lmao
 
@ballBreaker I had a quiz today and the teacher started going over the quiz while I was taking the quiz and you can guess what I did next...
 
I'm hoping your tightly bound morals didn't let you finish that quiz and you ripped it up right on the spot!
 
I can't find a good machine for a good price
Electronics are cheap in usa
 
Where are you?
@ballBreaker what would have you done?
 
@JBis Wait, what?
The prof gave the answers to the quiz you were taking?
 
4:19 PM
I will go and get a new laptop from UAE, possibly this August
@JBis Pakistan
I was getting Alienware R15-17 before but figured that it was not much of an upgrade
GPU + slight CPU upgrade does not justify about $2000
 
@JBis Honestly I would have been worried that they wouldn't have accepted my quiz any longer since they were already running through the answers and I sat there and didn't say anything and proceeded to get 100% on it.. so I would have announced that I hadn't finished yet, or potentially would have finished and tried to slip my test back into the middle of the turnin pile
Would have played it by ear depending on the teacher and how clueless they are
The fact they were running through answers while people were taking the quiz still though means probably pretty fucking clueless
 
How moral of you
 
Naw it's not moral at all, all self-preservation
 
Our work is 50% knowing how to do stuff, 50% knowing where to find stuff... If he gives you the info, well...
 
If I knew I'd get away with it I would have just copied their answers down and slipped my test into the middle of the pile
But if there was a shadow of doubt that they wouldn't accept my test, or it wasn't possible to do that, then I'd call them out so I don't auto get an F
 
4:23 PM
Can't be blamed cause the guy is too lazy to make a new one, get a room for you, wait longer, literally anything but giving you answer
 
I was almost done anyway so I finished up and turned it in.
 
there ya go
 
Still I don't think it's cheating
cheating has to be active
 
Not straight cheating
You just had... favorable conditions
Bit unfair to your concurrents, but not by your doing so... shrugs
And I say that as someone of the Loyal Stupid alignment. I positively despise cheating. But really can't blame you on this one
 
Hey, if everyone is getting A's in their class, they must be doing a great job of teaching, right?
 
4:35 PM
Honestly, I blatantly cheated rampantly through school so I can't say one way or the other if it was right or not
 
What a role model bb :P
 
I'm a god damn angel
 
Nothing wrong with cheating
 
Honestly, I found it difficult to fail a class, I never tried though.
 
meh i don't think cheating is so bad
like its not great
 
4:37 PM
@twiz quantum physics was pretty easy to fail
most of my physics classes were easy to fail tbh
 
but considering most education means nothing more than getting a peace of paper, meh
 
But yeah, same here Jbis
 
We had a limited number of places in my school. Seeing lazy idiots fumbling their way in by cheating, then dropping out of boredom and taking a spot in the process...
 
What's the difference between me taking a picture of an answer and sneaking off the bathroom to look at it and me studying that answer to write it down and forget it instantly after I leave the test
 
@ballBreaker I'm sure that would be harder than most, but did you put in any effort at all? haha
 
4:39 PM
Otherwise, yes, as long as it doesn't impact anyone else... If you lack skill in the end, you can only blame yourself, so I don't mind that part much
 
@twiz yeah, you literally can't pass those courses without effort
 
If you have the skill and just want to be sure to validate, it's your choice
 
cheating was more of a supplement for me
 
@ballBreaker studying takes more time that you could be actually be doing something useful
 
My experience was that for most classes a bare minimum of effort is enough to at least pass though.
 
4:40 PM
Yeah not physics courses in reality
unless you're a genius
which I am
 
@Taseer watch this, you'll never ever cheat again, I don't cheat - yet he somehow managed to make me feel guilty
 
Where those classes get you though isn't on the tests, it's the bombardment of assignments
 
If they allow cheating to be possible, they just suck at their jobs.
 
engineering physics I had 42 hours of class per week, then a weekly assignment in each of my 6 courses, on top of labs for most of them as well, it was just .. retarded
nothing killed my interest in physics more than taking engineering physics
 
is 42 the actual number? lol
why would that be a thing?
 
4:43 PM
Yeah, unfortunately, one semester I had 45 hours because the administration fucked up
and put 7 classes into one semester
 
ohhhhh, I thought you meant 42 hours of just physics
 
well it was like 70% physics and 30% softwre
 
like are you learning ALL of physics
 
yes
electromagnetism, relativity, quantum, etc
 
Do you know how to drop an apple on your head now?
 
4:45 PM
yeah I pay some dude in india to do it for me for 2 cents
hehe
 
jokes on you, they paid someone in Canada to take their exams for them.
 
Weeks of 40h + several project + finals incoming were truly the best times during studies
 
If I ever cheat, I cheat it with my friends, so basically helping the bros out thats all
 
@Nyakouai yeah it was horrible
except I still managed to do like 20% of the effort of most people in my program and pass with an 80%
 
@Taseer If you give them the answer outside of the test, it's helping, not cheating. If you would do so, then it's only fair they can still count on you during the test. Therefore, helping, not cheating :P
 
4:47 PM
but to be fair, most people in engineering physics were keeeeeeen AS FUCK and the difference between an 80% and 100% in a course like that is literally 10-fold amount of time spent (or more)
 
@Taseer this is why i hate when teachers say "Don't help your friends because it gives them an advantage over you which ends up hurting you".
 
Out of all the people that graduated from my promotion, I got before the guy before the last
 
Maybe not make the education system where students have to compete with each other
 
So bottom -2
Cause of fucking engineer maths
 
@ballBreaker I suppose that's the real point I was making before. The 80/20 rule applies pretty significantly to most classes.
 
4:49 PM
yeah engineering was a royal pain in my ass, and after about 4 years of doing it I decided I didn't want to do it anymore, so kinda put myself through hell for nothing but no regerts
 
Yea, I kind of wish I had taken more difficult classes, instead of the ones for my stupid degree.
 
@twiz Yeah for sure, I'm just lucky that I was blessed with a solid mind and at the least a capable mind for bullshitting and fudging
 
and you can't cheat in the real world
 
^ LOL!
You can cheat in the real world a lot
 
^
 
4:50 PM
and even get paid for it.
 
It's actually a useful skill to develop IMO
 
then its not cheating
how can you cheat in the real world?
 
at that point you're going to have to define what cheating is lol
 
cheating !== stealing credit
 
You know all the time you had to make your teacher think you had the answer, even if you did not? Welp, guess what, it's a super useful skill to have for your boss
 
4:52 PM
Okay well tell me if this is cheating
 
and then when you don't have the answer you are fired
 
You know it's going to take you two weeks to do something, so you say 3 weeks so in the end it looks like you did it faster
therefore your reputation increases as someone who "Gets shit done" but it never was going to take three weeks
 
thats called being smart
 
"Underpromise, overdeliver" is a maxim
 
not cheating
 
4:53 PM
And taking contingency time is the smart thing to do
 
okay then what is cheating
 
Stealing someone work?
 
because I could boil down any form of cheating to "that's just called being smart"
 
Stealing someone credit
Stealing someone... you get the idea
 
So stealing is cheating? sounds more like stealing to me
 
4:54 PM
@Nyakouai this exists but its a crime in the real world
 
I'd say if you step on someone toes doing it, you're cheating and not being smart
 
3 mins ago, by JBis
cheating !== stealing credit
 
cheating is defined as
> act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.
So my example is cheating.
 
Meh
 
meH
 
4:55 PM
If you do it to look good, maybe
If you do it to be sure to deliver something good... Aren't you doing your job?
 
i would not consider it cheating
 
You wouldn't but the client paying for those three weeks would
when in reality it took 2 and I knew it from the start
The thing is is that cheating becomes less cut-and-dry in the real world
 
@ballBreaker no there not
 
You think it will take two weeks. You should know that something along the line is going to go wrong :P
 
they are paying for you to get x done in y number of weeks
did you get x done? did you do it in y number of weeks? than theres no problem
 
4:58 PM
I'm saying if they knew you purposefully padded the timeline to make money or gain reputation
 
and when dealing with clients x is always subject to change
 
which was my example
 
Well if you are being paid hourly thats different
 
yee lots of projects are TnM
time and materials
Now for any past or future employer, or client reading this. I am not admitting any form of guilt here at all, I obviously have never done such a thing, but merely an example.
 
Bb, just dm'ed me over discord and told me he has done it to all his clients and they should fire him
 
5:03 PM
hehe
Luckily, I am the client now
God am I ever glad to be out of consulting
 
Can't wait to be out too
 
Anyway I'm very much a, ends justify the means kind of person haha
 
On that, it's time for me to say good bye, see you all!
 
Cya Nya!! :D yeah I bet you must be excited
have a good evening
 
@ballBreaker I think a better example, that I consider ethical, would be lying to a client to convince them to make the right decision rather than having them get pissed at you later for doing what they told you to do.
 
5:09 PM
Yeah that's another good one
 
Granted that's not someone you want to work for in the first place...
 
The problem with "cheating" in the real world, is that it goes from an "oopsie I did a cheating he he" to literal fraud
cheating IRL almost always == fraud
Your example not as much I don't think
 
@ballBreaker I think you would be legally covered, because you could simply claim you are incompetent. lol
 
that reminds me, Bernie Madoff is trying to get out jail
cause he about to die apparently
 
OH speaking of Bernie, how butthurt were you about bloomberg? Who are you supporting now?
 
5:12 PM
hmm sounds like a good place for him to die to me.
 
@twiz yeah haha I think you could get away with that one pretty easily
 
Yea, for once I just wish we could get a New York billionaire in the white house.
 
hehe
I was a little disappointed to see biden do so well
he seems so out of it
 
I just doubt anyone but Sanders will beat Trump.
 
Yeah same here
If anything just for the complete polarization of the two
Seeing someone like bloomberg, or biden.. it's like okay might as well just vote trump in again lol
but at least if you have two polar opposites running, it'll force people to make a choice
and seeing a debate between sanders and trump I would legit pay money for haha
 
5:21 PM
Yea, basically, do you want to hear everyone whine about the border wall or universal healthcare while rich people get lower taxes? haha
 
But that all said, my knowledge of the US and it's politics is pretty limited
 
@ballBreaker Biden and I'm depressed.
 
o/
 
Biden seems like he's mentally unwell, that's kind of surprising that you would vote for someone who seems like he can't tie his own shoes anymore
 
yeah he is
 
5:23 PM
But at the same time, from what you've said in here I'm not really surprised (don't mean that in an overtly negative way)
 
he won't run the office
which isn't a huge issue
 
Yeee
 
kind of be on cruise control
 
If he wins, which would be a big surprise, I wouldn't really expect anything to change
 
It's amazing how mentally stable Sanders seems as a contrast, even though he looks like a crazy old man. haha
 
5:24 PM
Maybe not such a big surprise, I don't really know
 
it would not be a big surprise to me
 
@twiz Yeah I find that comparison pretty hilarious
 
i have no questions about bernie's health
i just fundamentally disagree with his politics
to me both could win, but I rather biden (obv)
 
I think the dnc is fucked if biden wins over bernie
 
you and every other bernie supporter
 
5:26 PM
the entire campaign of trumps is goign to be how stable he is and try to make biden look like he's going to die the next day he's elected haha
yeah I don't even mean that from a bernie perspective, just on biden vs trump perspective
 
i don't think what they say will matter
the election is about trump or anti-trump
 
yeah that's quite true
 
I think through incompetence the DNC has just done everything possible to make democrats disillusioned and to appear like they're republicans pretending to promote liberal policies to get elected.
 
but I also think a biden vs trump is going to result in like 50% of people not even voting lol
but could be same for sanders too who knows
 
What kind of lunatics are going to passionately support Biden the way Trump supporters support Trump?
 
5:29 PM
lol yeah that's kind of where my mind is at as well twiz
 
Sanders has that kind of support whether you like his policies or not.
 
i'll be totally honest, the DNC (and RNC) are unfair and shouldn't exist. It just so happens, this election year, their unfairness benefits the candidate I support.
doesn't change who i support
 
Yea, I usually vote for whichever third-party is the nearest rival.
 
I just grow concerned for you guys on the daily
But it's probably my own fault, I should block all US politics again because it doesn't do me any good
 
Honestly I don't even really follow it. I just passively pick up things mostly.
 
5:33 PM
Same here, and it's still detrimental to my mental wellbeing lol
 
The big-picture things don't really ever change, which is why I basically use my vote to help legitimize a third-party.
 
mostly all just off of reddit, which is bad for getting news tbh
Yeah the big picture changing is what excited me about bernie and made me start to actually care and follow it a bit, but I'm realizing that I'm just setting my self up for heartbreak on something that won't even fundamentally change my life at all
potentially, at least lol
 
lol reddit is so weird. It has both some of the most strictly rational people and the absolute hyper-emotional lunatics.
 
yeah reddit is fucked, man
I thought bernie absolutely crushed it on tuesday because the only top posts hitting r/politics were his, but based on downvote/upvote pushing things to the front page, obviously people aren't upvoting Biden winning
so it ended up looking like Bernie absolutely cleaned up
Until I actually googled it and was like, oh shit
 
@ballBreaker I almost hope he creates a new political party to run if he has to. It would probably guarantee Trump the election, but it would probably end up being a real political party.
 
5:37 PM
That would be nice wouldn't it, just move all of his supporters over to a different party to subvert the bullshittery
Maybe some positive will come 20 years down the line lol
 
Good morning everyone
 
Heya Carl
 
Ironically, that would also probably turn the Democratic party into the rational middle-ground party. haha
 
hahaha yeah
Republican-lite we'll call them
I'm kinda tempted to just move to some Scandinavian country at some point lol
 
haha does that make Sanders "craft-democrat"?
 
5:41 PM
Canada is awesome, but we really need to build a wall between us and you guys
xD
 
lol I think politically there is already a pretty huge wall
Also your government may want to start promoting global warming so you have some tolerable weather up there.
If Canada was geographically located where Mexico is, but exactly the same otherwise, I'd totally move there. haha
 
hahahah
yeah I'd love it if we had Mexico weather/climate/geography
My country tries it's best with the global warming but unfortunately we have oil and gas shills in Alberta
Alberta is our Texas
One thing I never looked into, but what happens to primary delegates when someone drops out of the racce? do they get re-assigned
 
hmmm good question. I have no idea.
Thanks U.S. school system. lol
 
Kind of shitty for someone to run, take votes away from viable candidates like that and have them lose delegates
or in other headlines "Bloomberg wastes $500 million; doesn't notice it's gone"
It's weird because I heard Yang was winning delegates, but he's already dropped out so I just don't get the system at all
 
I mean... I doubt he was really expecting to win. I'm not sure what his intentions were, but he'll probably make 10x that from getting someone elected by taking votes from someone else.
Or even if he did intend to win the primary, it was likely to ensure Trump stayed in office.
 
5:55 PM
yeah that would be my guess
 
Or it may just be a way to get around campaign contribution laws and he was "paid" in some way by other rich people/corporations.
 
Yeah, also a total possibility he thought he could buy his way into president like he's likely bought his way into everything else in his life haha
I'm really going to notice cM's lack of presence here in the afternoons :( used to just be a few of us north americans left by this time of the day
 
They've made a tribute board to James at his workplace that I wanted to share here:
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The quotes are funny
"5x family reunion best kisser winner"
Very nice tribute
 
I loved it
Very nice indeed
 
6:13 PM
That's so nice and heartwarming
btw @Carl in case you're wondering who that was that commented on your FB, it was me
 
ok, thanks
 
o/ all
 
hey dave o/
 
o/
 
6:24 PM
o7 aye cap'n davey
 
hey Dave
 
|| learn codeMagic i.stack.imgur.com/GDJlE.jpg
 
codeMagic has been added
 
I can't believe we could have been calling him peach this whole time
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That would have been fun
 
yeah, I'm glad he was active, there was a year or so when he didn't show up. Glad we got to joke around with him for a few months before his time came
 
6:32 PM
Me too, man, me too
I made a little comment above when I found out, but me and him didn't really see eye-to-eye and didn't get along too well at the start but got a lot closer as time went on, and that meant a lot to me
 
aww, (hugs to bb)
I wish I came back to this room sooner
 
thanks man, I appreciate that
 
@ballBreaker YASSSSS!
 
7:01 PM
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7:13 PM
this skit is great lolol
watch libtards get OWNED
I said that ironically and deeply regret that I can't delete it now
 
lol
 
@ballBreaker flagged for promoting slavery
 
7:36 PM
hehe
I can't wait to gtfo of here today, definitely leaving early
Might have to pickup a mickey of bourbon on the way home, honour cM by pouring half of it out in his honour, annoy him in the afterlife
 
The GoFundMe account for codeMagic's family is here if you want to donate.
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7:55 PM
Thanks Carl
His Seltzer buddy donated!
heh
 
Could someone redact (or post) in good english a message to be posted on meta for the gofundme? would be nice to have the community he helped for so many years contribute back with donations :)
 
not so sure on the appropriateness of that one
 
Yeah I was kind of dabbling with the same idea earlier Mehdi, I think it's an amazing gesture, but not exactly sure on the appropriateness as well
Just like I'm debating whether or not donating under ballBreaker is a good idea or not
lol
 
just use your name you turd
3
 
I did lol
 
8:01 PM
@DaveS I think it doesn't violate any privacy, since the campaign is public. Or is it because of something else?
 
I'm sure a lot of SO community members have passed, I don't think posting a gofund me on meta is appropriate
but putting it on his SO profile and tribute to him would be
 
yup
 
okay
 
8:23 PM
@CarlAnderson I'm hoping he had a good life insurance plan
(For the kids sake)
 
8:37 PM
not sure if that sounded rude, didn't intend to
 
Definitely a little on-the-nose and not really necessary to say, but we know you meant well
 
I apologize.
 
No worries man :)
what have you two young'ins been up to today
also PS I didn't think I'd be referring to people as youngins this early in my life
 
I just had meetings with two of my professors
 
o/
 
8:52 PM
@JBis he seemed to be trying hard to be responsible, so it wouldn't surprise me if he had covered that as well.
o/ Adam
 
@DaveS I thought about it for a bit, I honestly don't see any disrespect towards others who didn't have gofundmes posted on meta
 
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