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7:00 PM
you could set up the phones as listeners on a websocket that could execute arbitrary javascript code executed in a headless webview
then just return the result over the web
you could do that with a simple android app, no OS stuff necessary
 
true I didn't think about doing it that way, was more thinking from a hardware perspective
 
yeah you're not gonna get very far trying to go directly to the hardware
 
yeah
 
but you could follow other distributed computing models like folding at home
 
any nicotine addicts?
 
7:04 PM
yeah I was gunna say what you said reminds me of the crypto mining being done on people's computers when they visit a website lol
 
I smoke a juul, used to smoke cigarettes for a decade or so
 
@asim yeah smoked cigs for about 10 years and now I smoke a vape, but a modular one
 
i tried vape but it doesn't have that kick
 
geek vape aeigis mod and freemax mesh pro atomizer
lol
 
that kick is called cancer
 
7:07 PM
i only found "mix your own nicotine and flavor solutions" and i am afraid my chemistry aint that good
 
e-fizz fizzy black currant lemonade is what I use
billy sex press vapes lol
or is it billy express vapes
we'll never know
 
i will only switch to vapes if i can buy supplies from nearby stores
 
gbvcocanada.com/product/sparkling-blackcurrant-lemonade that link above didn't work lol but this shit is AMAZING
ahh no vape stores near you?
 
ordering stuff takes time
 
fair, this stuff comes from Britain, but there's stores close to me that sell it and a company that will same-day get it to me if I order online
with nicotine you definitely don't want to wait
 
7:10 PM
@ballBreaker they only have diy stuff and i dont feel good about it
 
I get my juul pods in 2-4 days
I just order 6 more packs when I'm on my 2nd to last pack
order about once a month
 
nice yeah that's not bad, I do that for my weed and vape stuff aswell, I buy 10 at a time of mine because I get a 25% off if I get that many at once
so I get it every 3-4 months
 
how much does juul cost
juul basic kit costs 37$ here
 
a basic kit costs $10, the pods cost $4-5 and last about 1.5 days
 
I think price wise getting the modular vapes is the cheapest, then the juul/vype/whatever pods are second cheapest and cigs the most expensive
at least in Canada
 
7:13 PM
4pcs pods cost 22$
 
$16 here
 
any views/opinions
 
ffs round those corners
also has an optical illusion effect
 
hahah yeah it does eh
 
lmao yeah it does ik that
 
7:28 PM
honestly, and I'm not trying to be mean here, I hope it's for an internal tool and the client / boss is really cool
 
but the client loves it
 
that's good
 
haha that would hurt my eyes to look at
 
I think design/view wise it looks like a student did it in their free time
not something I'd sell or be happy paying for
You should have a logo and better title in the top left, rounded corners on the tiles, better spacing to remove the optical effect
 
they sent me an example and asked me to "make it look like that" so i did
 
7:30 PM
I hate the black lines on blue bg
lol well then you're good
 
funny thing about it is also try to avoid looking at it because of the illusion
 
hahah
 
i think the UI standard is lower for java apps then it is for web apps
 
probably
although there isn't really an excuse anymore
maybe 10 years ago
 
i've never seen a java app that looks really good
 
7:39 PM
not but that looks bad
if I was an employee and I had to look at that menu I'd be pissed
 
it doesn't look professional
 
you could at least get closer to something like this
 
@DaveS that looks professional but still horrible imo
it looks super dated
 
well yeah
It's not a good example, just a low bar that's achievable
 
but thats the standard for java apps
do you have an example of a java app you'd say looks excellent?
 
7:42 PM
most enterprise based desktop apps don't look great
but you could do something like this pretty easily with access to material libraries
 
is that java?
 
no
 
:)
 
but there's no real reason to use java for UI these days
 
what should you use?
flutter? qt? electron?
 
7:44 PM
any of those
you can run an application with an HTML based UI
 
yeah tbh I don't even know what exists for Java UI anymore, most people have gravitated in the opposite direction lol
but for a standalone java desktop program IDK what your options are
 
web apps for the win!
 
I know JavaFX is better than Swing but I don't know how nice you can make it look
 
I do have one example. JetBrains IDE's are Java/Kotlin and look pretty damn good imo.
 
most java apps looked like trash because there were almost no alternatives to Swing
until just a few years ago
 
7:47 PM
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7358775/java-gui-frameworks-what-to-choose-swing-swt-awt-swingx-jgoodies-javafx
https://flutter.dev/desktop
 
somehow it's 2020 and their isn't a great cross platform native desktop framework
qt is great but its C++
electron isn't native
flutter, react-native are all too early
seems many settle for electron
 
at the same time when does your average user, use a desktop application anymore?
 
definitely less and less
 
@DaveS good point, i think this is a lot of google's doing
google's really transformed the web into a place where 90% of all applications can exist on the web
 
almost makes no sense to do web-based desktop apps because then your employees cant connect from their phones
 
7:51 PM
yeah web apps will suit most purposes
 
@JBis and phones
I'd argue it's mostly phones fault than googles fault specifically
but they aren't even oppositional so it's definitely just both
 
i just wish electron would stop using a different chrome instance for each app
if i have 5 electron apps open thats like 5 chromes
imagine if every java app packaged java itself within it. Basically what electron does.
@ballBreaker yeah, but i hate my phone
 
why do you hate it?
 
@ballBreaker because it's not something he can easily try to make a clone of
 
you a meanie dave :(
 
7:55 PM
bahaha
 
 
still looking forward to your new wheel competitor jbis
 
updated it a bit
 
that's much better
 
@ballBreaker any time i do anything on it besides sending a text, i rather do it on my computer. such inferior tech
 
7:56 PM
@asim way better
 
@DaveS working on it, currently its a square. Alleviates the need for a brake in cars.
 
hope client doesn't refuse the update
 
I feel like a black/dark gray background would just make it the best
hahah yeah that would suck for them if they did
 
just show them both, they will most likely choose the better one
 
theyre all going to develop migraines looking at their original design
 
7:57 PM
if they don't save it because their employees will complain
 
@asim i'd pull a color palate. i dont like black...or the blue...or the black with the blue
 
@JBis yeah I feel the same way about my iphone
 
also have background around the container maybe
 
my android though.....
I feel the same
 
@ballBreaker exactly what i think but clients shouldn't be suggested too much they get confused
 
7:59 PM
yeah best is just show them three designs and get them to choose
Here's what your garbage design looks like:
Here's what my (asim) design looks like:
Here's what bBs amazing dark mode suggestion looks like:
 
but show them the designs on paper, or you waste time programming
 
the three choices
 
@JBis i just select them all and change properties, easy pesy
 
"I like #3 but where's the y button."
"Wdym y button? you never said anything about an y button"
"Well we need an y button or this isn't gonna work"
 
i will try a background
 
8:01 PM
hehe the black would get rid of the illusion fully I still see it there and I think its because of the white background
even making it off-white if they really want it white might help
 
if you go dark you need to switch the black text and icons to white
 
i'd go with a more purple blue with a slight gradient from upper left to lower right
and then off white for the icon color
 
I'd make it rainbow and then tell them I'm gay so then they'd have to accept it
3
 
me and this application are getting gay married and there isn't a god damn thing you can do about it
2
 
hahaha
"getting gay married" is such a funny phrase
 
8:05 PM
i need to come up with bullshit promotional text for a website. how does one do that?
 
just generate some lorem ipsum and randomly insert "blockchain", "machine learning" and "cloud"
 
im gonna do that
 
haha not bad
 
jbis xD
 
lol
not exactly what i meant
linear-gradient(to right bottom, #5958ff, #4744d5)
 
!accept
 
@ballBreaker i love how theres news companies at the bottom
 
@MuthukrishnanRajendran welcome. Please start by reading the rules and confirm you have read them before saying anything else.
 
oh, lame. You used to be able to test that out without having to create an account
 
@ballBreaker reasons why the internet sucks #1
 
8:12 PM
 
Yea that was only like 2 weeks ago too :/
 
maybe try something like the middle one
im not good at ui. i steal other peoples designs
 
@JBis looks good
 
seems we are in the "flat" age of ui. couple years ago it was the glassy 3d age.
 
8:30 PM
@JBis
 
better, make each smaller and add a title for the company or whatever
 
148
Q: Avoiding the Hermann grid illusion

dB'I'm a UX newbie and I'm trying to design a page of image thumbnails. I came up with this: The trouble is that this layout creates the Hermann Grid illusion. When looking at the grid, most people see flickering black dots in the corners. Can anyone suggest how I might modify my layout to avo...

I'd suggest reducing the spacing and using a light blue bg
to reduce contrast
take the blue from these menu items
and replace the white bg with it
on your blue and white design
and put them closer together
 
on it..
 
not quite
 
make it smaller
like all the boxes much smaller
 
8:38 PM
hmm
 
@DaveS dont really like that imo
 
yeah no
 
i think white looked better
def add a title of some sort above
also maybe just change the general layout? maybe put those in a sidebar and have a hamburger button or something to open the menu
 
@DaveS wtf
 
8:41 PM
?
 
now I cannot unsee that
 
@grrigore lol
 
lol
 
@DaveS how tf are you making these changes?
 
hahahaa
 
8:42 PM
GIMP
 
@MuthukrishnanRajendran your access has been revoked because you did not respond
 
yeah once I saw that I couldn't stop seeing it in the rest of the pics
 
@asim I'd do the last one I did but cleaner and symmetrical
 
and smaller
 
that's just a sloppy photo editing job
 
8:42 PM
its so big
 
that s what she said
 
and maybe a lighter color
 
@grrigore hahahaha
 
it doesn't need to be so dark
 
thats a lot of mouse movement, my hands gonna get tired
 
8:43 PM
thats what she said
 
jokes on you bb, she doesn't have hands
 
I has a question and I'm gapping out on git commands right now
 
@grrigore the best is "thats what he said. get it? cause gay."
 
@ballBreaker why do you use I has?
I'm curious :D
 
8:44 PM
lets say I'm in dev and I write some lines of code and then realized "oh shit I should put this on a branch whoopsie poopsie"
 
anyone know "whos line is it anyway"
 
git checkout git commit git push
 
lmao
anyway to quickly keep my local changes and put them on a new branch?
 
I guess
like I said as I remember
 
@asim yeah, such an amazing show
 
8:45 PM
checkout the branch and then do you magic
 
@grrigore because it makes me sound dumber and I'm such a genius that if I didn't talk like that you guys wouldn't be my friend
 
@JBis my fave it's the one with the legal process or something
@ballBreaker haha
 
so you're saying I should just throw these changes out and make the new branch and then redo them?
I feel like there's gotta be a git command for that
 
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A: How to commit changes to a new branch

John Brodiegit checkout -b your-new-branch git add <files> git commit -m <message> First, checkout your new branch. Then add all the files you want to commit to staging. Lastly, commit all the files you just added. You might want to do a git push origin your-new-branch afterward so your changes show up...

this one
I guess it works for already existing branches
@ballBreaker are you ok?
xD
 
no
hahahhaah thank you
I went from arguing if free will exists with my friend to trying to figure this out and my brain couldn't handle the switch
 
8:52 PM
@DaveS
 
smaller
 
I also didn't realize you could create new branches that easily, always though it would revert to the last commit and create it based off that (or complain about your unstaged changes)
 
only God knows how git works
 
git is so damn complicated
 
damn i thought i am only one who thinks git is over complicated
 
8:54 PM
I think your changes are stored locally, without commiting them, and when you create a new branch it get's the data from git
 
alright im out. cya o/
good luck @asim
 
bye o/
 
thanks
 
@asim much better, you can tweak it from there with the client
but I personally think it's a big improvement
 
dave approves
 
8:58 PM
 
haha
thanks for suggestions man 👍
 
yeah, okay so I made a new branch and my changes aren't here anymore
this is what I thought was going to happen lol
 
what?
 
nevermind
I'm dumb
 
so it worked? haha
 
9:04 PM
guess where the color codes were copied from
 
dave's avatar?
 
hey it's option 3 !
:D
 
ok i finalized the design with white bg
c ya guys later
and many thanks
 
np man, have a good one!
 
bye bye
 
9:13 PM
this might seem obvious, but I've tried a new technique when arguing with people and it's had some great results haha
 
what?
 
When they say something I disagree with, before saying I disagree with it I'll just ask them questions in order to get them to elaborate until I have the best idea what they mean, and then I tell them they're wrong and stupid
it works really well
 
lol
so you basically struggle to understand them and then tell them they're wrong and stupid?
 
hahaha
no I just sit back and ask questions and let them explain their standpoint, I find people start debates/arguing WAY too early before even fully understanding the other person
 
you're wrong and stupid
3
haha
sorry for this one
 
9:23 PM
lets say someone is like "I think all apple products are garbage", instead of saying "you're wrong" I'll go "why do you think that?" and then keep asking questions until I get to the root of where they're coming from
 
I get it
 
ahahaha
ok my bad
 
mad skills bb be careful
with great power comes great responsibility
 
hahaha
I have two friends that get into arguments in our group chat, and instead of like asking questions and trying to understand eachother they constantly try to one-up the other person's argument and they get lost allllllllllllll the time
 
so you used them as your test monkeys
and know you know
 
9:27 PM
exactly
and I use the technique back on them
lol I'm hoping they'll pick it up
 
haha
me out bb
have a nice day
 
@JBis i havent, but i wanted to try for a long time
 
cya dude!
im gunna skidaddle as well
oh hey Ivan! Hope you're doing well man :D just heading out tho, take care
 
byeeee
 
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