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7:00 PM
I'm hangry, brb
 
@RaghavSood, @Tom, @Tim, @DaveS, @ColdFire, @Mauker There is a new free game on Epic Store!!!! :3
 
The REAL question, I used credit card of my friend to pay for console acc because mine didn't work, Now can I use my bank acc (that is on my name) to receive $$ in future(in case if I make some)
 
YAY
I thought the ping was about the question I dropped, but a free game is a free game
 
xD
 
I loved math and chemistry
But the only things I really didn't like were arts and sociology type subjects
I'm looking at bean bag furniture for the office if anyone has any at work that they just love
Doing the important work over here
 
7:03 PM
@W0MP3R epic games lmao more like epig cames
 
@codeMagic recently bought a 3 foot sofa sack on amazon for $65
we like it
 
damn, that seems like a good price
 
But is it... a good value?
 
yes
a lot of the "bean bags" don't come filled because it's heavy and expensive to ship
 
wait, that's not what I thought you meant
 
7:05 PM
 
lol
 
lmao
But yes, it's a good value I was jk. They're expensive here too
 
Gotta get me someone who looks at me like that
 
are you a sofa sack bb?
 
Thanks, Dave, sent that one on but still looking
 
7:07 PM
yeah man I'm the king sofa sack
the sofa king sack lord
 
Trying to decide if we want a traditional bean bag or a chair type. Like I think this would be nice amazon.com/Big-Joe-Aloha-Chair-Ash/dp/B071JTJS8V/…
 
chair types suck
they trick you into thinking you have support but they don't and it's just an awkward beanbag
better to sit lower in the bean bag, better back support
 
Ah, that's a good point. I don't think I've actually sat in one
What would you name a function to be descriptive but not long to convert celsius to freedom units?
I should put freedom units. That would be funny. Not sure my manager would think so though
 
CtoF
 
Americanize
 
7:14 PM
I was going to do convertCToF() with a comment but that looks ugly
 
or make it reversible and call it tempConvert(unit, temp)
might be confusing
we use CtoF and FtoC in our grill project
 
I thought about that but we won't ever need the invert here
 
@Hack5 a free game is a free game :O
 
going with convertCtoF() thanks
 
why in the world wouldn't you spell out Celsius
 
7:16 PM
convertCelsiusToFarhenheit
 
we live in a world of auto-complete
 
yikes
 
because then I have to spell out the F one or it would look dumb
 
use words
right
 
might as well do c2f()
 
7:16 PM
lol
 
or .toCelsius()
 
convertCelsiusToFahreneheit
you only have to spell it once
and then you auto-complete it every other time
 
If i could have remembered how to spell the F one without looking it up, I might have. But I was lazy. Though, I've wasted more time talking about it
 
or convertThisThingFromFahrenheitToCelsius
 
fine, Carl
 
7:17 PM
carl's code:
Integer explicitVariable = performAddition(otherExplicitVariable, anotherExplicitVariable);
 
carl spelled it wrong
don't listen to him
 
It's absolutely amazing to me that people haven't read Clean Code
my company paid for the videos of it, and it's been the biggest change in my coding practice in years
 
oh wait I messed that up
derp
yea a lot of good advice in that book
 
Love that book
Changed my coding for the better
 
@CarlAnderson I think we have the book. I flipped through it once really quickly
 
7:19 PM
I do agree with explicit variable and functions
but CtoF is pretty clear idk
 
CharToFloat ?
 
why would you ever have a function for that
 
yeah especially when (Float) exists
 
because you're not good at programming
 
true China team has ByteToByte
 
Tim
7:20 PM
I am with Carl on this one
 
fun convertCharToFloat(p0: Char) = p0.toFloat()
 
me too tbh
 
@DaveS alternately if you don't like the default function's output if you have a null/invalid value
not sure what happens if you try something like 'h'.toFloat()
but if throws an exception and you'd rather it default to 0, I could see you writing a CtoF function
or if you want to log the error to somewhere
 
To be fair, I was going to put a comment above the function to describe what it does
But I spelled it all out (correctly)
 
comments are for noobs
 
7:23 PM
^
Uncle Bob hates your comments
 
Look at the legacy code I deal with and you'd pay big money for there to be comments
 
do log prints use memory
someone just tried telling me they don't
I don't understand how that would be possible
 
But JavaDoc are comments?
 
they probably don't have a tangible impact on RAM, logs are usually piped to a file
 
@codeMagic no, I'd pay big money for there to be unit tests
 
7:26 PM
Right that was my assumption as well, that once the log is written it's done, but say if someone forgot to turn DEBUG mode off for log tracing, wouldn't the additional writes out constantly be increasing the memory?
more log writes per second = more memory consumption? or what
 
in the same way as adding 1 to a variable over and over again might, I don't think you're going to allocate more
you have a logging object and a file
I'd assume the same logging object is just reused over and over
your IDE is just reading from the file
 
I'm talking about on an application server which spawns multiple threads and each connection/thread each having it's own log
 
depends on the logger implementation
 
hmm
 
@Taseer the only reason to be writing Javadocs is if you're producing a library for other people to use. Otherwise you should just write clean code.
 
7:29 PM
I'm gonna make a program that calculates how much company time a user has wasted chatting in r15
 
what is r17
 
Tim
Room for losers I guess
8
 
(on phone sorry)
 
@Tim That's what I was thinking
 
Wait, there are other rooms other than r15?
 
7:31 PM
Who thinks they will have wasted the most?
 
self-describing code > comments
 
@JBis on average, or overall?
 
on average
 
@Mauker there were 14 prior failed attempts at creating an amazingly awesome room.
 
my guess is you bb
 
7:32 PM
The 15th time they failed too, but we just stuck around
 
@CarlAnderson <3
 
@JBis yeah quite possibly
 
"FUNCTIONS SHOULD DO ONE THING. THEY SHOULD DO IT WELL " Making pure functions is so hard. If I try to really follow the rule, I end up with smaller and many functions
I don't know how well the rule could be followed on other stuff, but Android makes it tougher
 
@Taseer Android have some tight rules that needs to be followed for app to behave correctly but then there are bugs and they freak me out
 
@DaveS I'm sure it's not comfortable at all but there's this
https://www.amazon.com/Works-Hamburger-Bean-Chair-646927/dp/B00K6AURW0/ref=sr_1_47?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1579203738&refinements=p_n_condition-type%3A6358196011%2Cp_36%3A1253525011&rnid=386465011&s=home-garden&sr=1-47
 
7:53 PM
lmao
 
Tim
aw christopher tolkien died
 
RIP
 
8:15 PM
jesus
they're going to forcing a windows update from 7 to 10 on my laptop tonight. Wonder how much of my legacy shit is not going to work in the middle of development
Should be fun
 
can i add in-app purchases to already published app on play store?
 
Tim
no
 
I believe so
 
Tim
yes of course
they make money off of it, they do whatever they can to help you help them make money
 
@Tim Right
 
8:26 PM
@ballBreaker who is they? I don't think windows is forcing you
your company?
 
yes
our sister company who manages everything IT related except the bullshit that slips through to me
 
Good afternight compulsive interactors!
 
ribbit
 
ribbit
Did I do that right?
 
you tried and that's what matters
 
8:41 PM
Sidenote, I think there is an asteroids game easter egg built into chat
 
wait, what
why?
 
why do i think that or why does it exist?
 
Why do you think that
 
I'm trying to figure out how to activate it
 
81
Q: What Easter Eggs do the chat sites have?

MosheAccording to balpha, the SE chat sites may have individual Easter eggs, depending on the site. If you find them, please post. Edit: Because it's so easy to make this stuff up, a screenshot as proof would be nice. (Although Photoshop ain't that hard either...)

let me save you the trouble JBis
that easter egg is for Gaming/The Bridge
we get Cthulu
send "<(?:"[^"]*"['"]*|'[^']*'['"]*|[^'">])+>"
 
8:45 PM
LOL
insert coin
 
1 min ago, by Dave S
that easter egg is for Gaming/The Bridge
 
LOL
 
@DaveS :(
i thought i found something new
 
<(?:"[^"]*"['"]*|'[^']*'['"]*|[^'">])+>
 
just call me Carl now that your dreams are crushed
 
8:49 PM
I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE
THE PONY
HE COMES
Off I am
See ya later o/
 
cya
 
later
 
see ya, Mauks
 
user image
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lol
 
9:02 PM
LOLOLOL
 
and that's all for today
Cya tomorrow everyone!!! :D
 
haha!
 
cya wompy
 
See ya, Womps!
 
god damn I wanna blow my brains out
 
9:06 PM
why bb?
 
the company I work for is kind of fucked up
 
@ballBreaker Don't.
 
^
 
There's been a ton of communication issues lately and some things are spiralling out of control
 
regarding your work? that impacts you?
 
9:08 PM
Yeah
Well not even 'my work' it's like someone else has fucked up and it comes down to me to fix it
not even code related, but also sometimes code related
Today has just been a particularly bad day
 
job security
Go outside, puff on one of your funny cigs, and come back in
 
Oh that reminds me. cM you still going strong?
 
Yeah I think I'll do that
 
but that also makes you trustworthy, just make sure they know you're helping fixing "not your mess" :D
 
Mostly. Had some issues dealing with personal stuff which let to drinking
But back off of that and have been going to the gym/working out at home a little so we'll see
 
9:11 PM
This isn't Oregon trail, don't fall off the wagon
 
thanks for asking though
 
@Mehdi Oh they do, whether or not my boss' boss sees that is a bit different, but my boss surely knows
 
You can do it cM :)
 
I can, I just need to not let shit out of my control get to me :)
 
@ballBreaker it's his job to sell his team, so his job to convey that to his hierarchy, not yours
 
9:14 PM
Mehdi, thanks to you, I've been listening to Pink Floyd all day :)
I usually just turn on Pandora and let it go when I do listen to music at work. Which is probably only 30-40% of the time
 
hahaha, that was mostly my mood of the week, pink floyd and marc knopfler
 
I don't know him
I'll look though
 
I see now. So I've heard him for sure but don't know him
It's too late in the day for me to listen to something that slow.
 
9:29 PM
yea just speed it up 2x
 
might get a good cry out tonight
anyone know any good movies for that
 
Twilight
 
gah im leaving
cya
 
later bb
 
cya dude
 
9:33 PM
 
cya
 
good stuff on that site
it's all lesser known, non blockbuster films you probably missed
 
10:23 PM
@raghav how do you keep your sanity doing infra
we've been debugging something since for the last 6h and we've barely found a fix 😭
 
10:38 PM
I spent roughly 30 hours on an open source medical imaging server recently
that was awful
 
tell me you managed to deploy it at the end :D
 
turns out duplicate data was exported multiple times into studies with different IDs so the underlying uuids were colliding
wasn't anything wrong with our server
medical manufacturers only partly following the medical protocols
 
that's a tricky one :D so even the IDs must follow some norms in their industry
 
10:54 PM
basically you instances (images) series (frames in an animation or just set of images) and studies (collection of series)
and instances and series should only ever belong to one and only one study and our server enforces that
but old medical manufacturers broke this protocol and series/instances would be exported to a study, then a few weeks later after adding new images, it would be exported again as a new study
and so when our client imported these studies, the series/instances would collide on the uuid lookup and only the first uploaded study would work
but the logging and tooling was terrible and it took us a long time to work out
we also assumed it WASN'T a data integrity issue because you could view these individual studies just fine with other programs
4 of the hours was spent compiling the server so I could print some logs
and we're dealing with 300GB of data in the whole thing so it's really slow, a lot of uploads/downloads
also had to request original files from the client because the collision prevented data from being uploaded properly
 
tbh i love that kind of issues
dealing with android stuff and specific OEM stuff is really soul crushing
 
even if it's entirely duct taped open source code, open source plugins, almost no documentation and in a language you barely work in?
 
what was the language used?
 
C++
 
uf
i had similar problem with ejjaberd server
 
11:02 PM
yeah that won't be very pleasant
 
its hard but its sometimes refreshing to deal with something different
 
yeah it was fun for the first day Ivan
by day 6 I was getting pissed
 
glad its finally over
 
i was thinking about services offered to us developers
like that stuff i was ranting yesterday
that banking app
i think those services will never be good enough for us
we had food delivery service here in Belgrade which had unbearably ugly website, really fucked up UX but awesome food options
when Wolt came, they lost almost all of their user base
and Wolt has like ~20 restaurants
 
11:13 PM
bummer
 
@Mehdi It's very cathartic deleting a server which doesn't cooperate
 
ou sup @RaghavSood long time no see
you still in NZ?
 
I am
Was out over the Christmas/New Year break
But I'm back now
 
ah, nice
Whats going on in Australia? I've seen its pretty bad
 
@RaghavSood did that 35 times
 
11:22 PM
 
Damn, Dave, I figured you followed me on there
 
@Mehdi They key is to use better software, preferably open source
It's a lot easier to debug
 
It's CF templates
 
Ah, that's your problem then
cF will refuse to parse anything that doesn't align with his political views
Real talk tho, I've started migrating a lot of stuff to nixpkgs - it is slightly more effort to get it running the first time (unless someone else already wrote the package for you, which is usually the case for most popular things like elasticsearch etc)
But once it is running, it is super reliable
 
11:32 PM
this looks nice indeed
whats the effort to install linux on mac?
is it legal?
 
why would you wanna downgrade? :D
 
lol
i just cant work on MacOs
i cant get used to it
 
@Mehdi Yes - you can use it just as a package manager
Or you can use it by running NixOS directly - in which case even your system config becomes declarative
So you can bring up an identical machine in minutes
 
Nice, I didn't know about NixOS
 
11:50 PM
You should try it out when you can
Quite nice for static-ish services
Like blockchain nodes
 
I wanna try that, I'm new to all the word of infra, and I can tell that infra as code in aws is painful
 

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