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12:00 PM
But also and mostly you are no longer a student, right
 
@MwBakker If you have 0% loans it would be risk free to put them into a savings or term deposit that gives you a 1-3%
I am a student, technically - I have a full course load
 
yes, but I should have thought of it earlier since I am in my last year of possibility to loan
 
More than full, actually, got an extra course
 
you are?
 
That's what they keep telling me when I don't turn in assignments
 
12:01 PM
Well you have a very good POV on your personal wealth, wealth is not the amount of money one has but what he does with it
 
My only goal here is to be stable/well off enough to be able to work on what I want to vs what I need to
 
Right now I am making one last big purchase before I will go full savings mode which is a 400 euro computer
 
Should be achievable in 3-5 years, hopefully
 
what are you buying a 400eu computer for
 
:47464371 I need enough in investments/passive income to ensure that I can work on what I would like to work on, even if the pay is lower than what I would receive if optimizing a job search for pay
 
12:04 PM
@TimCastelijns I have quit gaming for a long time, also my old pc wont run the cool games no more. But now I waste some houres on forums or such that are no form of relaxation at all (I noticed) because it keeps my mind running
 
what kind of pc are you aiming for that you can play cool games on and only costs 400eu?
 
I ask because I bought a pc myself 2 weeks ago for the first time in 10 years and it was a lot more expensive
 
Mine cost 399 EUR
And that's after being in NZ, where all computer stuff is like 2x the price
 
@murat I discovered a very nice channel for work friendly songs youtube.com/… :D
@RaghavSood is it a ps2?
 
12:06 PM
@TimCastelijns But 400 is still too much imo so I am not sure to do it yet
 
@MwBakker That has a 3rd gen Core, are you aware of that?
 
nice, a hippie
 
@nana yes but if you look at benchmark stats it's still a good one
 
@MehdiB. i5 6500/8 GB RAM/1060 6GB/120 SSD/1TB HDD
 
12:07 PM
Alrighty... I mean, if I were you I probably would wait and save more and buy a different one.
 
@RaghavSood damn, link?
 
@nana but I simply don't want to spend that much on a pc
 
It's a custom build, there's a few guys at uni who do them and sell
The CPU and GPU aren't new, RAM, SSD, HDD, Case, power supply, motherboard are
 
I used to custom build PC's myself too
 
I got it but you have one now, no?
 
12:08 PM
CPU and GPU are ex office lease workstations, so should be alright
 
Are you getting enough of a bump for the $400?
 
Would only really avoid GPUs from mining rigs
 
@nana I have a laptop and a 10 year old socket 775 core2quad pc
 
@MwBakker Tbh a good CPU wouldn't cost all that much more, you don't need a 9th Gen, even a 6/7 would be fine
 
6 or 7 gen makes about 200 to 300 euro difference 2nd hand offers
 
12:10 PM
Are you buying new?
 
no
 
That sounds unreasonably high
 
they go for that price, been looking for a week now
 
@MwBakker This seems similar to what I bought, slightly better even: marktplaats.nl/a/computers-en-software/desktop-pc-s/…
 
that CPU has a lower benchmark rate
 
12:13 PM
I mean the price is really solid for the whole system...
 
Ah well, I just benchmarked based on whether it could run Assassin's Creed Odyssey
 
@MwBakker how? My cpu is new and cost 127eu
 
I'm not really aiming for 60fps in all the newest games, I don't play much
 
@TimCastelijns I mean in systems. If I go for an 4th gen system it would be about 550 2nd hand
@RaghavSood same here for ghost recon. Prob that and beamNG is what I will play
 
But yeah, if I an i5 6500 is +150, I can see an i7-6XXX being 200-300
 
12:16 PM
well to be far the one you found is newly build
 
you don't need i7 to play games
 
I know
 
If I were buildin now I'd go for the new Ryzen 3s
 
True, I play games on a Pi Zero
Works great
 
But from all offers at around 400 euro the i7 is the best for the buck as it seems passed week
 
12:17 PM
You should build your own PC, it's always better and cheaper
 
Not if he's buying a used home built one.
 
not cheaper than buying 2nd hand which is why I do not build this time
 
It's usually only guaranteed to be cheaper if you're buying new
Sourcing used parts for the whole thing can be difficult
 
if I buy 2nd hand parts it gets tricky. It could be faulty parts put in the oven to bake the connections right
 
Hopefully my tablet shall be here today
 
12:18 PM
baking goes well for 6 weeks or 2 years, you never know
 
Then I can commence the next phase of my upgrade
I've bought tons of used computer stuff, never had any real issues tbh
 
it's tricky with 2nd hand stuff regardless. No warranty etc
 
Tho I try to make sure I'm the second owner, and I usually go for ex office lease stuff
 
I really should update too, I got this FX-8320 that just sits here as I switched completely to laptops.
 
1k and you can build an awesome system
 
12:19 PM
They tend to be used less than stuff owned by some dude who is gaming 20 hours a day
 
@TimCastelijns I know but buying a whole system is still the least since I can test it there
@MuratKaragöz but I am not spending 1k on something just to play games
 
1k for the next 5 years
 
But maybe after 2 or 3 years I am done with gaming
 
Who knows if he'll still be alive in 5 years, ancient cars don't hold up great in collisions with modern ones
 
16€ monthly
 
12:20 PM
don't kid yourself
 
Or maybe not and I can still upgrade CPU or GPU afterwards
 
Just buy a retro Pi kit and play all the old games on emulators
 
cpu upgrade is meh
 
Much cheaper, plus you get that fancy 8-bit music
 
since you probably have to change the motherboard too
 
12:21 PM
what game will you play btw bakker?
 
@MuratKaragöz after 2 or 3 years already? Perhaps if I want i9 but for i7 gens I think I am safe to switch cpu without the mobo switch
@TimCastelijns Ghost Recon wildlands or Breakpoint. And BeamNG and perhaps Cities Skyline
 
I would advice anyone to take 1k into their hands and build a solid system
 
Or 400 euro for 2.5 years fun and then perhaps 400 for another 2.5 years
still 800 for over 4 or 5 years
 
agree with murat. However I spent about 900 on parts and 100 on assembly + 2 year warranty
 
you are not poor
you are not poor at all
900 euro for a pc? And how does assembly cost 100 euro that is litterally 20 min work
 
12:26 PM
it is not
 
Just Cause 1-4 are on Steam sale today
Didn't buy 4 tho, still to expensive for me
 
> + 2 years warranty
 
I remember when my friend bought a PC they asked 80 euro to put it together. Putting components together is like playing Duplo how can one ask 80 bucks for it
@RaghavSood I heared 4 sucks, 3 was great
 
I haven't played any, besides brief interactions on friends' consoles years ago
 
I know nothing about pc building so I prefer to pay some nerd a little bit extra so I don't have to spend any of my own time. If I had to go and figure out how it works and do it myself the time I'd spend would far exceed 100eu worth
 
12:27 PM
pcpartpicker.com/guide/9zLrxr/great-intel-gamingstreaming-build I am surprised what can be build for less than 100 Euros these days
 
exactly tim
 
this is an i7 4th gen for 600 euro
@TimCastelijns call me next time, I'll do it for a bucket of KFC
 
i doubt you could build anything less than 100 euros
 
and to just finally meet you bro
 
@nana At this point just wait for black friday
 
12:28 PM
@MwBakker that thing looks dusty dirty af
 
Ikr it's way too much money
 
Black Friday is a scam, it tends to be all shit.
They even make special products jsut for BF
 
xD
 
@ColdFire you could build communism on that money
 
Yeah, but it's less prevalent in Computer parts, and NewEgg etc. usually do pretty well
 
12:29 PM
I am waiting for the 16" MBP gimme gimme gimme
 
I wouldn't buy a TV or whatever
But a motherboard, sure
 
"nobody gets anything, all equal" you just need to buy a megaphone
 
Yeah, I guess you're right.. if you can find the one you want discounted, it's more about clearing up warehouses of useless crap.
 
Everybody equally poor and all beggars?
no thanks
 
than no, you can't build anything for 100 euro
 
12:31 PM
Anyone play Civilization VI?
 
@RaghavSood You still playing with flutter?
Do you use AS or MSVSC?
 
Currently playing with SQL so I don't fail my test in 19 hours
 
is that the new one rag? I might try it soon, my friend suggested it
trying out anno 1800 currently
 
Right now I'm still in the stuff-code-into-the-project-until-things-work stage
 
oh, mkay. I was wondering if you attempted to open your repo as a new project already.
 
12:32 PM
Wondering if I should buy it for $15: indiegala.com/crackerjack/civilization-6-dde
 
what are your pc specs Tim
 
@nana Ah, I don't use the IDEs. vim + cli for me
 
Oh, you're one of those.
ok
 
And yes, you should buy it.
 
12:33 PM
the pc?
 
the pc too
But I meant the game for $15
I mean srsly Bakker, if you can wait then wait a bit longer and save up another 400 and treat yourself to a nice new one.
 
well if it can run ghost recon breakpoint I am satisfied
 
@MwBakker it says in the link
 
If you really really NEED it right now, then go ahead and buy the one you linked. But I bet that's what the guy selling it is doing ;) He'll take your 450 add another 400 and buy himself a nice new rig :D
 
Pay with a supported cryptocurrency and get an EXTRA 15% OFF on final price!
 
12:36 PM
@nana probably
 
See guys, crypto saves me money
 
@TimCastelijns what link
 
cries in -20% over the last 7 days
 
Crypto is dangerous AF, stay away....
^^
 
29 mins ago, by Tim Castelijns
I got this one https://www.arctic-gaming.nl/snowfox-silver-windows
 
12:37 PM
noice
 
I saw it dropping like crazy so I bought some, but then it didn't stop
 
quite a benchmark
 
no idea. I asked 2 friends who built their own PCs and they said it's decent
 
it's good, you can last with it I am sure
 
@nana Sounds about right, but you should have warned me before I sunk literally tons of money into it
 
12:39 PM
Not sure how much is tons..but trust me I suffer with you
 
I play mostly older games. Anno 1800 is the first "modern" game I tried and it runs on highest settings no problem
 
Last time I bought at 11500, so I know a thing or two about losing money.
 
Speaking of Ryzen 5 this doesnt seem like a bad offer
 
Oh well, at least I get Bioshock + Borderlands 2 + Civilization VI for $27 now
 
12:40 PM
@nana I'm not really suffering, my average buy in is very, very low
 
again covered in dust. Close tab
 
hahah
 
Yeah I dun goofed, donated couple bitcoins to Wikileaks, then lost the rest.... that was when they were maybe $1
 
my appartment can be dusty too
I am placing a bidding on this one
it's there for a month now so I can go low on him
 
8gb ram
 
12:43 PM
if that wont suite me I can always expand it
but the offer for the system wont always stand
 
Turns out steam keys are case sensitive
That just seems like low hanging UX fruit
 
I hope the guy wont get offended on my offer
 
they'd have to be twice as long
 
*offerdend
 
What are you offering?
350?
 
12:47 PM
375
 
You're good :D
 
this one has a Ryzen 5 2600x
 
How many are you buying? :)
 
one
ofc I also need to consider that ghost recon breakpoint costs me another 60 euro
damn
 
Odyssey costs 100 NZD :(
I'm just waiting for sales
 
12:50 PM
How much is that in... money?
 
About 60 USD
 
Yeah that's crazy.
 
Life in NZ is expensive
You ever pay US$12/kg for tomatoes?
 
On the other hand, that's about 8 beers and it provides fun for lot longer than 8 beers, so there's that.
 
60 usd is 8 beers?
 
12:51 PM
I don't really drink beers
 
Why are tomatoes out of all things expensive there? Isn't the whole country basically a crop growing garden?
 
Or drink in general
 
yeah
 
I still have the stuff I bought when I got here 2 years ago, mostly unopened
 
A beer is around $8-9
 
12:52 PM
I thought our country was expensive
what
 
Everything is expensive in NZ, tomatoes just stuck out to me as particularly expensive
 
except for the view you guys get
 
This one time I had a special beer...small one also... for $20. It was good, but not $20 good.
 
some of us need to travel for mountains
 
If you want to live near... civilization, the view gets expensive pretty quick too
 
12:53 PM
o/ cm
 
If you want to live in the view, then sure, it's cheap
 
@nana for 20$ I would take my glass to the bathroom and drink it again
 
:D
 
But then you need to drive for hours to get stuff
I spent about as much on groceries as rent
Sometimes more, if I'm feeling fancy and want fresh stuff instead of canned/frozen stuff
 
I had no clue it was this bad down there.
 
12:55 PM
@RaghavSood I only want frozen stuff. More vitamines and easier to keep
 
This one time you had to pay like $7 per head of broccoli
 
I would go to the head of broccoli and ask about such ridicolous prices
 
It's literally cheaper for me to eat cheesecake for lunch than to have chicken+veggies+rice
 
"if they cant eat bread, why wont they eat cake"
 
I think that's the case here too.
 
12:56 PM
Dairy stuff here is reasonable, but it is still more expensive than it should be
Since most of the dairy is exported
 
I mean europe is kind of special in that you can eat healthy for normal-ish prices.
 
So locally they charge the same price
Southeast Asia is great for eating healthy cheaply
 
Unhelathy, processed food that feeds the masses is cheap.
 
^^
 
@nana they almost wanted to ruin that here too
They are making it very difficult for farmers lately
 
12:57 PM
Are they?
I thought there was a ton of subsidies or whatevers.
 
also
But they come with rules, that vary a lot
 
My beef is that you can buy the same looking thing in three countries in Europe and it will have different composition.
@RaghavSood Is it rally healthy though? (it probably is)
 
yes very healthy
 
Yup
 
Indian food is cheap and healthy infact here fast food is costlier
which is considered not healthy
 
1:00 PM
but too much spiciness is not really healthy for the stomach
 
Indian food is great, but I can't imagine it being healthy, it's too tasty to be good for you.
 
lol it is healthy
what spiciness?
 
baby don't burn me, don't burn me... no more
 
@ColdFire all the chili and other spices that burn the mouth when you're not used to them
 
all that cream? how about malai kofta
or kashmiri sauce
 
1:02 PM
not even 10% of our food is spicy
 
Maybe I am just eating the wrong indian food.
 
spicy is like a subtype of subtype of maybe another subtype
lol malai kofta is good
but its not really a everyday eaten item
 
@ColdFire what
maybe for you it's not spicy, I cry everytime I eat indian, and my nose flows for 5 solid minutes
 
well idk what is sold in the name of indian food anywhere
spicy is just a tiny part of a large list of items we have
 
aah okay, thought it was all that spicy
 
1:08 PM
@MehdiB. I feel that, I cry everytime I eat my pet
 
its probably more like the dishes they sell outside is spicy
or maybe the indian guy running the restaurants belong to a region in india where spicy food is eaten
 
Irl Indian food tends to be quite different from what you get in most restaurants abroad
They largely focus on the spicy/sweet/not-so-healthy stuff cause it tastes good
 
yup
 
If you want actual Indian food, find one of the daily food box services run by middle aged Indian women out of their houses
Most majors cities have a few
 
o_0 i didn't knew this
 
1:12 PM
It's not targeting people with palatial amenities
 
I wonder how would I go about finding that here.
Because I would happily pay.
 
Just google <city> tiffin service
The best ones will be run out of a facebook group/page
 
its like dabbawala service
or yeah tiffin
 
The more upscale ones will have a website, but they might not be as authentic once they start serving a wider audience
 
oh shit, you were not kidding
It exist, even here!
 
1:14 PM
Alternatively, you can try going to a gurudwara for the free meals, they tend to be pretty authentic too
They exist everywhere middle aged Indian ladies exist
So, everywhere
 
yup totally recommend gurudwara free meals
authentic and awesome food and that too free for all
 
Isn't it just for Sikhs?
 
Nope
Free for anyone, any belief system, any economic status
Just show up
 
^
lol what are you kidding
 
Sikhism is one of the belief systems I could get behind, more of a philosophy to life than a religion
 
1:16 PM
there is no discrimination in any gurudwara whatsoever for any reason
raghav all 4 indian religion are more of a philosophy to life or way of life
 
This is amazing... TIL
 
Nah, most of them started out as that but are super into specifics now
Sikhism/Budhism, still reconcilable
 
meh not really specific
i think it looks that way but its not really the case
 
I look at stuff very simply - you want to advise people on how to lead a good life? Great, have at it. You want to tell people they're in trouble because a planet is in the wrong part of the sky/some imaginary sky dude decided to doom us all/some animal headed thing wants to weigh your heart against a feather, and you're not someone I'm willing to really listen to
Parts of more or less all religions fulfill the first part, but most theistic ones go deeply into the other side
I take what works for me, rest can get stuffed
 
haha i agree with the first comment
absolutely that is how it should be
 
1:22 PM
You guys got it all wrong... the only thing that truly matters is your preferred pronoun.
 
Brb banning nana without due process
 
@RaghavSood yeah probably the best religion imo
Always fuck with the Sikhism on Civilization
 
lmao
never played civilization
isn't this the game in which gandhi nukes all?
 
hehe
yes
 
Nice, I just bought Civilization VI
That damned keyboard better get here quick
 
1:24 PM
lmao the twist of fate
does it contain all religion?
i heard from someone you have to convert all people into your cult?
 
No, it mostly contains a PCB and some switches
 
lmao was asking crabs
 
I guess you could look at mechanical keyboards as a cult
 
xD
 
@ColdFire I played civ5 a bunch and it had like ~10 of em
The major ones
Christianity, Judaism, Sikhism, Hindu, Taoism, Buddhism ... uhhh
 
1:30 PM
wait no Shinto?
 
There were def a few more
 
sounds not so inclusive
 
My NAS has started sounding like it has a bad flu
 
ye well shinto can go to tell
 
what about the Parsis?
 
1:30 PM
same with them
 
hehe
i forgot Taoism i believe its found in china right?
 
Yeah somewhere in that area
could be china occupied taiwan
 
xD
did google, found in china alright
 
;eno;ewtlhj;woth.snnsjkthn.sjsertknhketljhgerh;ieohjqlh;eqln.
 
Makes sense
 
1:32 PM
fuck
 
woah Timmy is strokin' out!
 
@ColdFire Parsing error
 
Call an ambulance
 
Zucc bypassed the sock puppet routing
 
@RaghavSood disks spinning, heads moving, backup running?
 
1:33 PM
timmy drunk
 
It shouldn't be writing anything right now, it's just sounding like it ate a bunch of sand
To be fair it has been sounding like that for months but the HDDs keep saying they're healthy so eh
I trust my multtier backup system enough
 
You should sing to your NAS this album, it'll be like a sweet lullaby to it
It's great for when NAS is ILL
(matic)
 
No.
 
LIES
 
No.
 
1:37 PM
Yes.
 
@TimCastelijns I agree
 
I'm in the middle of reviewing that PR, to give some context
 
😂😂😂😂
 
be sure to use the correct pronouns
 
1:53 PM
@RaghavSood Good luck! ;)
 
wow
 
Getting there....more like inching there...
 

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