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3:06 PM
indeed
Just when I think I got the percentage thing, it does a complete other thing
 
Hi
 
hello
 
hi
 
Hello
 
Hi
 
3:20 PM
why is my toolbar icon not showing at all
 
How can you manage to make things complicated xD
 
I stripped the toolbar to one element, since it got broken when I fixed the constraints
@MuratKaragöz It's not a gift, it's a curse
 
Dude.........
 
...........
 
I closed AS and opened it again. The apk signing process worked.
 
3:27 PM
see told you, you were the issue
 
@ColdFire AS was the issue, as usual
 
3:40 PM
So far the only option for my icon is to hardcode the width and height
But that isn't right
Must I put a CL inside the toolbarwidget as well to make the percentage work?
 
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Damn, taking hostages on SO
that's new
 
I have a perfect fit recyclerview in percentages, I do the same thing on a simple icon in a toolbar and it does not work. It's very strange
 
@MwBakker yes
 
But that doesn't make sense
 
it does
 
3:54 PM
CL
____TlbarWidget
____________CL
 
percentage shit is a property of CL
 
But isn't it a load on rendering and such to have multiple CL's
 
it can be
but it's not common to nest layouts inside a toolbar
 
Exactly
Perhaps I can get rid of the widget in between
And have a well working CL as toolbar, so one element
 
You could place the toolbar inside the CL
and position whatever you want inside the toolbar using constraints
it won't be a child of the toolbar per say
but you can, for example, center an image by using "top to top of toolbar" "bottom to bottom of toolbar" "start to start of toolbar" "end to end of toolbar"
 
3:57 PM
Yes that is what worked
 
But it didn't respond to percentage_width, because as Tim said, the element was inside a toolbar_widget
So I would need a toolbarWidget and then a CL
 
@MehdiB. This guy is a fucking genious.
He's amazing
 
But what I am thinking is perhaps I could just make do with just a CL
 
<CL>
  <Toolbar />
  <OtherElement />
</CL>
 
3:59 PM
@Mauker I only shared it to spot the hipster in the room… I’ve got bad news for you :/
 
Give the toolbar an id
and position the "other element" based on the toolbar position
@MehdiB. I'm proud of that ffs
Now give my scarf back
 
jk I'm a huge fan of him, I launch some of his concerts, 2h of pure joy
 
user443346
@MuratKaragöz "My reaction was exaggerated. However, the behaviour of author of that OP was for me unacceptable and offended me." lmao
 
mauker he is positioning elements inside the toolbar
 
But he can do that without nesting
 
4:01 PM
@Mauker The problem here is that whatever I put in the toolbar element does not respond to percentage no longer
Thus I would need a CL inside that toolbar. That goes too far for me
 
7 mins ago, by Tim Castelijns
percentage shit is a property of CL
 
Yea I figured..
 
Dude, I'll try to write an example
Hold on
 
what does a toolbar do when there are no elements inside?
 
Results
The ImageView is positioned inside the Toolbar, respecting the percentages that I placed there
It's not nested, but visually it's inside the toolbar
 
4:08 PM
I see
Thanks for the gist, Mauker
 
You're welcome man
Please mark as accepted if it works
jk
 
Haha
But so it's common to not nest toolbar elements, and have them visually in the toolbar?
 
It's common not to nest stuff on a CL
 
really?
It seems so odd to me
 
Yes, one of the main advantages of CL is to flatten the layout
nested stuff can result on a performance hit
There's actually a very good video on this subject
 
4:12 PM
@Mauker Can? Or always will?
 
user443346
@Mauker And if you dont - i delete my comment
 
@MwBakker Depends on the layout
it always will, but it depends on how many elements, and how many levels your nested stuff has
 
Just one level
 
a 4 level deep nested layout is worse than just one level
 
CL___
____ elementX
____elementY
 
4:13 PM
But it all goes down to what your final result should look like, really.
Sometimes you can't avoid it
e.g.: CardViews
 
Well the thing is I kinda looked at layouts like div in webdev
 
It's different with CL
it's a very powerful tool.
 
but so you are saying it's not common to have elements nested in a CL?
 
why do you need percent constraints in the toolbar anyway
never seen that
 
4:15 PM
 
@TimCastelijns Because I want my toolbar elements to be responsive
BTW the toolbar is included in every activity per <include> which is why I am thinking I could do this with just a CL instead of the actual toolbarwidget
 
you can do that. We don't use toolbar widget in our project
 
that will simplify a bunch of things for me
 
4:32 PM
@SurajRao love it
 
Oct 4 '18 at 15:45, by Tim Castelijns
do what works for you, don't do what works for others
 
stupid colleague of mine has tried merging conflicts and all my previous changes are lost
:(
i really wanna quit this company asap. trying to find a new job soon.
 
what is wrong?
one of the things i like about SO is the meta and its can of worms :D
 
a conflict was merged and all my commits were lost
 
you must have those locally ?
or you pulled it?
 
4:35 PM
i do have a local copy all the time just for this purpose.
when things go wrong you have atleast stable local branch
 
well then issue sorted
 
yes. but if this happens all the time i would spent more time on this rather than working on functionality
the architect or my supervisor does not care
he wants the job done
i have mailed them for now
 
story of every company
 
Just hold still for a few months Raghu, CF may be able to hire you
 
lol
@Mauker have you used the dataprovider pattern?
or whatever its called
 
4:44 PM
Where?
 
what where anywhere?
 
Oh I misread your question
 
i am asking since we could add that in your searchview lib
 
Well, I guess so. Isn't what we have to use to access DB?
I mostly use Repository pattern these days tho
 
i am experimenting a bit to encapsulate the provider
 
4:47 PM
you can encapsulate dataprovider on a repo
 
i guess its called repository pattern
@Mauker i think this is the one i was referring to
 
Ohh okay
So yes, I use it
 
have a demo?
 
I believe Adam has one
So does Tim
 
@AdamMc331 summon
 
4:48 PM
I don't have one live, I'm just using it in my projects
 
yes i just wanna see the implementation and difference with mine and if i can improve mine
 
can you have a button display the ripple effect on the border only, not on the rest of the bg?
 
customize it to your liking
altho haven't seen anybody do that
 
I mean how
 
5:03 PM
grrr kotlinnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
 
And Dart
 
yikes
 
@Mauker Are you using Room or SQLiteOpenHelper?
 
Time to go~~
 
cya womp
 
5:06 PM
Cya tomorrow people!!!!! :D
 
I was using the SQLiteOpenHelper
But lately, Room
 
dammit why did they remove pastie link from room description :(
is room good?
more importantly is room too tied to android stuff?
change the drawable for whatever effect you want
might need a little experimentation there
holy shit someone just posted a repository pattern question on one of the slack channel
 
@ColdFire yes
@ColdFire i dk what you mean with this
@Mauker when I try your sample in an xml with designer, it goes wrong
Also with a different sample, everything is squeezed into the corner
 
5:21 PM
mauker are you free i wanted to discuss how to go about changing stuff on your searchview lib?
 
\00
 
o/
 
Een o/
@MwBakker screencap it
 
First I'll rebuild
 
Guy, am in Realm android hell here
 
5:30 PM
tim is your guy
 
The moment I attempt to write to db; in a typical transaction, it freezes the UI thread
 
it won't build, I need some time
 
Is he in?
@TimCastelijns come back
 
o/ all
 
yo Dave
 
5:33 PM
how's it going een?
 
Been in a hole for almost 2 days here
Weird Realm transaction behaviors
Main thread freezes as soon as I hit realm.executeTransaction()
 
If only there was a person well versed in realm named @TimCastelijns
are you doing it on the main thread?
have you tried realm.executeTransactionAsync?
 
Still waiting for Tim, and yeah, I am doing the write in the Main thread, which should have a small footprint
I have tried that too
Here is my setup; a start a background async operation to talk to the Api, then in onPostExecute, I use EventBus to communicate back to the activity which then does a write operation to DB (realm)
 
o/
 
\o
 
5:40 PM
have you changed anything recently Een? did it work before or is it new?
do you have any other writes occurring at the same time in other threads?
 
There are other non-related services which do writes after intervals; but for this particular activity, just 1 operation
 
> Write transactions block each other. This can cause ANR errors if you create write transactions on both the UI and background threads at the same time. To avoid this, use async transactions when creating write transactions on the UI thread.
That's most likely the issue
a synchronous write on the UI thread blocked by a background service
 
@Mauker the issue was I use AndroidX
 
@DaveS let me try
 
@MwBakker Oh lol
 
5:51 PM
How was responsiveness done before comstraintlayouts?
 
RelativeLayout and LinearLayouts with weights
 
by not nesting the layout
 
For instance you could create two empty views on either side of a row of elements with width 0dp and weight 1 and they would squeeze the inner elements and center them
in that way you could make a horizontal packed chain
different weights to give it a bias
basically the arrows were empty views instead
 
Ah ok
Like float in webdev
Push empty stuff just to 'fill' the bucket
 
sure
 
5:58 PM
Except in webved it wouldn't be empty
 
Qt calls them spacers
 
Qt?
 
Hi random chatty people
I need help
 
Hi Raymond
 
hi
 
5:59 PM
it's a multi-OS GUI framework for desktop applications
 
As Somme of you know I applied for an Android developer position at TCS
They checked everything single detail on my resume
And told me to wait
 
Ok
 
But it has been 1 week since that last time they contacted me
 
But?
 
I'm planning to send an email
 
6:01 PM
1 week is not long
 
With the next text:
 
1 week is nothing for a corporate this Big
 
Raymond Arteaga:
Hello Mr. .....


I hope you're having a great day


Thanks for your attention and helpful guidance. Should I expect some kind of official notification wether I'm selected for the job or not? I would really love to work for your company, but I'm letting other opportunities pass by during the selection process.

I would like to know the average duration of TCS selection process.


Thanks in advance
Would be that impolite?
 
Harsh
Ask for feedback instead
 
@MehdiB. oh, I get it
 
6:03 PM
Yeah 1 week isn't long at all
 
How long would it take iyo?
 
Well, I wouldn't actively decline opportunities if I were you
Unless that was just a line to get them to move quicker
 
@ballBreaker do that kind of stuff really works?
 
If you're feeling anxious about getting a reply, then just ask for feedback on your application - and ask simply what the status of the application is.,
 
Sometimes but it's a bet
 
6:07 PM
I wouldn't ask any more or less than that this early
 
Ok
Thanks
 
That you usually do when you have other offers
 
Hello Mr. .....


I hope you're having a great day. I would like to thank you for your attention and helpful guidance thus far. I was curious if you had any further feedback on my application - and any idea on the status of the current application.

Thank you
Something like that
 
And i'd suggest you wait until next wednesday maybe?
 
Yeah a week is a little short, I would wait a few more days
 
6:09 PM
Ok
I sent the application on Dec 7/2018
 
2 - 2.5 weeks seem reasonable to ask for the status of an application
 
They were interviewing me and asking references to employers
Ok
Thanks a lot :)
 
I would politely say something more along the lines of "Hey, just following up with you. Wanted to reaffirm that I'm interested in the position and available if you have any questions regarding my resume"
 
Big companies are slow in their processes
 
when you do follow up
but yeah wait more than a week
they know you're asking about the status of your application without you having to ask directly for it
 
6:11 PM
👍
 
But don't stop your job hunt
 
yeah you don't owe this company anything and they may never follow up with you
continue looking
you can always wait to accept an offer while you follow up with another position you might prefer
 
Thank you all random guys from this weird chat!
 
just don't wait too long
 
6:20 PM
Meow!
Have your local MCD selling twisty fries?
It was sweet compared to regular MCD fries.
Wait. What the heck is Go edition?
 
It's a "simple version" of android
lighter, but missing a couple of features
 
I would like to have a local MCD, whatever it is
 
Simple version of Android. It does not make sense to me. I would like full version of Android.
Built to use less
Brand new apps designed for lighter updates and downloads help create more space while significantly improving performance. That’s what we call a win, win.
 
Who watched yesterday's moon eclipse?
 
LOL. Actually I dont think storage or internet is a problem in 2019
 
6:27 PM
@nyconing I have to disagree
 
Proof it.
 
Which one?
My last cellphone was 8GB internal storage space (including system)
 
telephone or handphone
8GB of smartphone is rare and maybe none in 2019.
 
And a 700MB data plan cost a half of a month salary
 
700MB data plan cost a half of a month salary?
 
6:29 PM
Mhm
So... Optimizations are welcome
 
La Habana, Cuba is where you lived?
Yeah I have heard Cuba finally launched 3G
 
True detective s3 is out :D
 
Yeah finally!
I'm super happy with this
My employer refill my cellphone account every month, so I'm lucky :D
I can chat from the road! Yey!
 
This makes sense, many country in the world dont have internet access.
 
6:33 PM
Agree
Again: hurra for optimizations
 
@TimCastelijns wow!
This has to be the best news of the day :D
 
This may difficult as many apps are update regularly, like 1 or 2 in a week.
They cost around 20-80MBytes per app.
Cuba users may hate auto-update then.
 
Also @Ray don't get discouraged, job search is a tedious process, usually takes 3-6 months depending on the market you target, don't get discouraged! :D
 
Yes, that's the devil
@MehdiB. I won't :)
I think on this as an adventure, if I'm accepted... Great
If not... I won't die
 
That's the spirit 👍
 
6:42 PM
Neat, just found another AS bug
I'm getting good at this
Breaking stuff
 
Android Studio is getting real tired of your shit, Mauker
 
it's not on netflix :/
 
why would Android Studio be on netflix?
 
Yeah it's HBO
 
7:02 PM
@DaveS 😒XD
 
xD
 
Can somebody explain that jokes?
I promise I won't say "Ok"
3
 
I intentionally applied my context to Mehdi's statement when it was clear he was talking about something else
it's the basis of all dad jokes
Like when you say "I'm hungry" and dad says "Hi hungry, I'm dad"
 
this silence almost sounds like "ok"
 
there it is
 
7:16 PM
Ohh snap, sorry
I wasn't referring the joke I swear
That was hilarious
The "I'm hungry one" I mean
 
"that was hilarious", sounds like what a dad would think
 
I still don't understand the other joke, I think I lack context
 
Netflix is a video streaming service
it's absurd to think Android Studio would be on there
 
That I know
 
Lol
 
7:19 PM
But continue... I fallow you
 
just like it's absurd to think "hungry" is a name
 
tim: true detective is out
... android studio talk
mehdi: it's not on netflix (referring to Tims comment)
Dave: why would android studio be on netflix
 
^
 
Uff, may be the cold, I'm a little retarded today
 
well tbf tims message is so above in transcript anybody can miss that context
 
7:22 PM
To be fair?
 
yes
 
Ok
2
 
Hey you! You are not allowed to use my jokes!
 
lol
 
7:26 PM
I will sue you as soon as I can get out of this country!
 
falls under "fair use" for satire
 
lol
 
I don't see many americans in the room this evening
 
There's not that many of us, CA, Carl, Adam, Tristan
cM
eski
 
trevor
thought it was a public holiday or something
 
7:29 PM
ah yeah
today is
Martin Luther King Jr Day
Federal holiday, many business are still open though
 
so today is paid double if you work?
 
no
government employees have the day off
and businesses at their discretion may offer it as a paid day off
but it's not a typical business day off for many
The big ones are Christmas, Thanksgiving, Memorial Day, Labor Day, 4th of July, New Years
almost everyone has those off
 
understood, it's cool as long as when you go to work, the streets and businesses are not deserted :D
 
less traffic but definitely not deserted
 
gotcha
 
8:27 PM
Of course, most federal goverment workers have had the last month off
 
I had 2 days off. It was nice
 
You are here
Tim
 
8:58 PM
nice
 
9:10 PM
Watch out @Tim, you're next
 
 
1 hour later…
10:16 PM
57M$... enough to fund 100 startups :D
 
o/
 
\o
 
@MehdiB. or build 1% of the wall
 
i know
 
10:19 PM
did 348,922 people really think they could collect 1B$? XD
 
ridiculous people
 
the guy is probably using them for his next political career
 
10:54 PM
@MehdiB. Have you heard the latest scheme? They are starting a business to build the wall themselves by buying land and paying for the construction as a private enterprise.
 
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