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4:22 AM
morning room.
 
 
2 hours later…
6:22 AM
Morning
 
Morning :3
 
6:43 AM
@MarkO'Sullivan finally was able to run the app (flutter hello world). I switched to IntelliJ IDE and also had to set a few environment variables as well. But some times on AS the device was detected and some times it was not ( randomly)
 
@RaghavSood lol
 
7:18 AM
o/
 
7:31 AM
o/
 
good friday so the room is empty?
 
public holiday, at least in .de
 
yeah public holiday
 
8:11 AM
o/
 
8:47 AM
I answered a kotlin question for the first time
 
9:01 AM
(y)
o/
 
@Raghunandan that seems odd. I noticed a weird issue last night when deploying an update to my internal testing flutter app, the apk build command didn't work until flutter clean
I never tried with Android Studio because I didn't want it clogged up
 
hmm. i guess its still not stable enough and issues do crop up.
 
awesome tim
 
user443346
9:27 AM
o/
 
user443346
I'm back babeh
 
user443346
Such fun, 15 min before leaving the office Windows updates messed up my master boot record.
 
ye boi
 
yo jordy
 
9:42 AM
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lol
 
user443346
@netpork Or use Spotify/Soundcloud, I don't remember when I downloaded music for the last time
 
user443346
I'm an idiot, shared 2 books here illegaly
 
I mostly only use Youtube
 
user443346
Illegaly is mean
 
user443346
9:45 AM
Yeah Youtube also pretty neat with a playlist, did that aswell
 
I don't think there's a point in downloading medias today
 
user443346
E-books, software, maybe a movie or a game
 
user443346
But most of the time I just purchase it
 
@Jordy He's joking, of course... :D
 
user443346
True, i ment legally*
 
9:48 AM
lmao
 
yeah, those 2 amazon links you shared were pretty expensive but interesting, worth the purchase!
 
user443346
Sure, amazon links
 
XD
 
I don't know the context, but keep it vague so I don't have to ban your ass
 
user443346
You won't ban a Dutchie
 
9:52 AM
@Jordy the fact that sharing could be illegal is a defect of the law, you don't need to feel guilty about that.
 
user443346
I never said I felt guilty about it :p
 
just don't make mistakes which will get you caught, and everything will be fine
 
@SargeBorsch unless it's stupid motivational stuff, then it should be illegal :D
 
user443346
The Netherlands is quiet relaxed when it comes to downloading
 
"the universe is 1 meter away from you, waiting to be grasped! success depends on you!" and crap like that
 
user443346
9:55 AM
A friend of me however, lives just across the German border. Downloaded 800 movies, got a letter from the German Software/Movie alliance with the request to pay 200 euro fine for each downloaded movie.
 
user443346
At court he said it's a internet connection used by multiple people therefor impossible to point out who downloaded what.
 
that's 1.60.000€ in CF numerical notation
 
user443346
He got acquitted, so lucky him
 
@MehdiB. it would contradict free speech
 
9:58 AM
imo, it's harmful, making business out of depressed and hopeless people who try to improve themselves
 
it's not solved by censoring
it could be solved by higher quality free education
so that more people will be able to detect and dismiss bullshit
censorship always ends up being a net loss
 
yeah, but in the meantime, endoctrinement should be monitored, you don't wanna have a generation full of depressed people who think they're worthless because they followed ScammerXYZ and it didn't work out
"So if after all this, I'm the same, I guess I suck and it's all on me"
 
censorship also may give the direct opposite effect — en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
 
this guy is using an enum to asynchronously store data stackoverflow.com/questions/49572292/…
2
 
pretty uncommon, he's probably using it to act as a singleton
 
10:15 AM
@MehdiB. 1,60,000*
 
noted
 
that is just less than 2€ what you said in our notation lol
 
and we joke about imperial
 
imperial is a joke
2
 
Tim - XD
 
user443346
10:34 AM
I'm hungry, need some frikandelbroodjes
 
go and buy some
 
user443346
10:55 AM
Tim will send me some
 
tim is a delivery guy now?
 
user443346
Yeah, RO - sarcistic - delivery guy - PHP god
 
11:37 AM
Tim Castelijns has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
Tim Castelijns has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
Tim Castelijns has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
 
what feeds?
lmao
DEA remember this guy
 
lucas rocha, the corner, romain guy
 
👍🏾
 
roman nurik?
 
romain from google
the dude who presents IO with chet
 
11:42 AM
he's no longer on the android team
we should add some newer blogs
what though
 
true
 
romain guy not any longer in the google team?
 
yep
ohh the android weekly newsletter
 
Ahmad has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
they kicked him out because he made jokes about fragments
 
11:44 AM
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why did it post all of the latest 5
 
Ahmad has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
the fragmented podcast!
 
Fragmented - Android Developer Podcast: 118: Flutter and cross platform development with GDE Eugenio Marletti - Part 1
posted on March 19, 2018 by shows

In this episode, we dive into one of our most requested topics and highly anticipated ones - Flutter. To help us understand Flutter in-depth, we talk to Flutter's GDE Eugenio Marletti. In Part 1 of this 2 part series, Eugenio helps us understand what flutter is, why it was created, how it works, some really cool features with Flutter and why an AndroiDev today should really give Flutter a good

 
neat!
 
4 messages moved to Trash can
need more suggestions!
 
11:47 AM
@Ahmad says who
 
I don't think we get twitter/androiddev in here
And they're doing a 31 days of Kotlin thing right now that's been quite informative
 
oh apparently he's back with the android team
but he did leave it for a bit! androidpolice.com/2013/10/04/…
 
Ahmad has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
man man man
I try to clean up the feeds, and you add more than I remove
 
11:49 AM
^
 
If I ever get around to making a feed for AndroidEssence can we use it lmao
 
lmaoo tim
 
I would also see the room-15 feed removed, but I expect some resistance from you guys
 
yeah I would leave it
We never post to the blog, but when we do the feed is nice to have
 
11:54 AM
but in all honesty, why
2 years no content
 
I will write the next post then
jk
soon
 
true
 
@Ahmad yessss!
@Feeds ooooh flutter ;)
 
Tim Castelijns has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
 
what did you stop m8
 
11:57 AM
ANARCHY!
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ RIOT
2
 
the influx of nothing
dominance asserted
 
can you shorten your riot message by one riot guy
so it fits perfectly on the -> side
 
I removed all feeds that have not been updated in 2018 or 2017
 
see what I did there
 
I do lmao
 
11:59 AM
he was supposed be all in on anarchy
 
go team
 
😎
 
user443346
Adam, arent you in zeh airplane?
 
Not yet
 
user443346
Do you feel stalked yet?
 
12:04 PM
yes
 
user443346
It's just the beginning
 
lol
hello adam , is everything ok?
 
Nope
we're not ok today
:D
I got the day off
 
lol perfect time for that message today :D
oh awesome off day for good friday?
 
I think they discovered the architecture he planned to implement for his Social feature, and told him to take the day off
7
 
12:09 PM
ouch
I mean, have a star
but ouch
 
lmao savage
 
tell me when it's too much. I have no boundaries
 
but yes the day off is for good friday. and my birthday happens to be tomorrow so it's a great weekend to go back to Michigan
 
adam is a good coder you know
poor peep always get roasted
 
@TimCastelijns maybe if my hard drive had boundaries my keystore wouldn't have escaped. It's all good lmao
 
12:10 PM
lmao
@AdamMc331 party \o/
 
hold old are you turning
 
25
 
25
 
quarter of a century
 
user443346
Believe it or not, Adam's keystore jokes made me remember not to lose mine @ reinstalling today
 
12:12 PM
^
 
I'm glad I could help you guys
 
@AdamMc331 you have to wait 25 more years to become majority owner of your life
 
lol reminds me of this story
 
so what is the plan for birthday?
 
god dangit hold on wifi is slow at the airport and I gotta find this message
Sep 12 '16 at 1:43, by McAdam331
Our client, a broadcasting group, purchased a new news station. This station already had a mobile app, so we were going to update it with our app obviously to match their suite of apps. I got the package name and everything, and I go to publish the update, and I realize they never gave me the keystore for this app. So, once again, I was blocked from updating because I didn't have a keystore. Only this time it actually wasn't my fault.
 
user443346
12:14 PM
:D
 
I'm going out with a friend tomorrow night CF but that's it. Otherwise just going home and seeing my family and my dog that I miss more than my family but don't tell them.
 
user443346
^ can relate
 
friend == tristan ?
 
no :(
 
lol
friend == jordy the new stalker
wow dog more than family now that is new
 
12:16 PM
no it's not
 
cant relate since i dont keep a pet :(
 
lmaooo
 
lol
@AdamMc331 lmao
well google allowed keystore changes before but not now hard luck adam
 
It's okay I don't manage releases at OkC haha
 
yeah otherwise it would be NotOkC
 
12:22 PM
@AdamMc331 happy birthday!
 
its tomorrow
 
@AdamMc331 happy birthday
 
user443346
Can Polandball into Space?
 
For tomorrow of course
 
that looks nice.
i am sure for the native app you would have to write a lot more code to get the same functionality as mentioned in the blog
 
is the top right gif representative? It's not very smooth
 
yes tim its a gif
 
raghu jetbrains coming to my city
\o/
 
yes but is that how it looks in real life? It looks like 3FPS
 
12:55 PM
naah gif are painfully slow
i have tried the flutter app the animation are pretty smooth
but my devices is op5 /shrug
would be interesting to see flutter on galaxy s4 or similar devices
 
cf we had a meetup organised by jetbrains in our city too but din't have time to attend to it
 
I don't like dart
 
In the app I'm building on Flutter the animations are pretty fluid
 
i see raghu
 
mark, how come you guys switched to hybrid apps?
 
user443346
1:12 PM
@TimCastelijns How can I re-use an object after closing Realm instance? With copyFromRealm(); ? Seems a bit dirty.
 
user443346
So you're telling me Realm sucks?
 
lol
 
user443346
Idk why I keep asking Tim, Mark's answers are much more usefull
 
user443346
@MarkO'Sullivan Shine bright
 
1:19 PM
You can't
Wait...
I misread your question
If you use copyFromRealm() you'll created an unmanaged copy which is independent of the Realm instance iirc
 
user443346
So it's as dirty as I thought?
 
user443346
I used copyFromRealm() before but was curious about it
 
From the docs:
public <E extends RealmModel> E copyFromRealm(E realmObject)

Makes an unmanaged in-memory copy of an already persisted RealmObject. This is a deep copy that will copy all referenced objects.

The copied object(s) are all detached from Realm and they will no longer be automatically updated. This means that the copied objects might contain data that are no longer consistent with other managed Realm objects.

*WARNING*: Any changes to copied objects can be merged back into Realm using copyToRealmOrUpdate(RealmModel), but all fields will be overridden, not just those that were c
 
user443346
So I'll stick with copyFromRealm
 
user443346
^^
 
1:21 PM
@Jordy probably your usecase sucks
what are you trying to do
 
Yeah it'd help if you explain why your Realm instance is closed in the first place
I'm still to get a good way to open / close instances / prevent realm from doing stuff on closed instances. Need to fix a couple of bugs from our latest release to do with that
 
user443346
I'm using it in AsyncTask where I override an integer
 
user443346
This integer is used through the entire activity
 
go on
 
user443346
That's it, I need int map_id through my entire activity. I override it in the AsyncTask. When I sync data to my server it reads the map_id var aswell;
 
1:26 PM
... how does this relate to Realm?
 
does your asynctask have its own realm and its own reference to this int?
 
user443346
@MarkO'Sullivan This map_id is read from Realm :p
 
user443346
Sorry
 
user443346
@TimCastelijns Correct
 
and the activity has its own realm and reference to the int
 
user443346
1:28 PM
Also correct
 
and you close the asynctask realm when asynctask is done
 
user443346
"
 
and when you access the int in the activity again it crashes
 
user443346
No it doesn't crash, I was just curious how to obtain map_id from Realm for usage in the entire activity
 
user443346
copyFromRealm prevented the app from crashing ofc
 
1:29 PM
Should it not refresh in the activity? I think I've seen that PandaForce guy saying you have to force it to refresh if you're doing Realm stuff from background threads
 
keep int in a realmobject, it updates automatically. Remove copyFromRealm
 
^ recommended approach
I haven't implemented that approach yet, been in my TODO for so long
 
user443346
Hmmm will check if that fixes ^^
 
@Trusted you need 80+ rep to be given access here
 
1:44 PM
don't keep us in suspense jordy
 
user443346
Oh ur still waiting :d?
 
user443346
It worked Timber
 
user443346
Timber, better than Tinder
 
you can hook up a listener if you want to know when the int changes
 
lol
 
2:49 PM
Anyone using Firebase crashlytics?
Trying to figure out what select_content is
 
cheers tim
 
for reference I googled firebase crashlytics "select_content"
 
user443346
Why are Fragments so shit
 
True
 
3:03 PM
o/ peoples
 
thanks, nana. I can leave, now.
bye people \o
 
Where my circles at???
 
overthrown
 
hey nana
 
3:05 PM
Bbut.. how is that possible?
o/ netpork
@netpork do we still enjoy pinging people?
@codeMagic ping
 
@nana yeah, I like ping pong -- remeber, we use to play virtual table tennis
 
cM doesn't come in often anymore
 
@netpork Cool. I do, we should play again I loved that game.
 
na na na nanana...getting circly with it
 
:) o/ eski
Has everyone switched to Kotlin?
 
3:07 PM
jordy did not
 
CF did not
 
I didn't either at work, would love to though. But at home yes.
 
just tell your managers that you have to -- google said so
 
Pics of my new kitten. Youre welcome
 
It's not because of managers, it's lack of time really.
@Reno Well done. I am as naive as ever.
 
3:11 PM
we just write any new files in kotlin - time is not an issue
 
I'll try to introduce it, first I'd have to see if the project still compiles. We doon't use the latest build target NOR gradle
Really my team is now 2 people..
 
> We doon't use the latest build target NOR gradle
Not using gradle?!
 
latest gradle
Yeah we use gradle
 
3:32 PM
dammit reno I wanted to see a kitten
 
4:19 PM
o/
nana!
I'm sort of a circle
 
Back
o/ carl
@Jordy because they are
@TimCastelijns :(
@nana long time no see nana
Lmao where is cM
 
The US
 
@codeMagic doesn't do Android anymore so he's been banned from the room.
 
BLE took over cM
 
4:45 PM
@DarkShadow you don't have enough rep for us: room-15.github.io
 
increase yo street cred Dark Shadow
 
Hello, Android!
@nana Hi, nana! Haven't seen you around for some time.
 
5:02 PM
@Ahmad I've linked it before, but basically this whole album
I'm going to see Emancipator and Little People in concert tonight
thanks to @JMRboosties and his app/site
 
5:19 PM
o/ nana
 
5:32 PM
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5:57 PM
@ColdFire @Code-Apprentice @DaveS o/ Sorry for late wave, hd to jump into couple meetings.
 
@DaveS oldie, but goodie
 
6:47 PM
^I saw that it was wild.
@MarkO'Sullivan Thank!
@netpork Thank!
 
 
1 hour later…
8:07 PM
@DaveS that's abuse, hope they got reported to CPS
@AdamMc331 happy birthday's eve Mac
 
 
3 hours later…
10:49 PM
happy birthday @adam!!! :)
 
It's yesterday for him m8
 
Silly Americans, always living in the past
 
11:17 PM
posted on March 30, 2018 by Lingfeng Yang

Emulator 27.2.3 is now available in the Canary channel. It contains the following changes: Added a shortcut to go to the Screen Recording UI: Control + Shift + R (Command + Shift + R on Mac). Changed the -phone-number-prefix command line option to -phone-number <number>, allowing setting of the full phone number. Screenshots can now be taken from the telnet console with either o

 
11:38 PM
@DaveS lol
Happy birthday @AdamMc331
 

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