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12:10 AM
@DaveS :-(
 
Lol
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A: Get the bounty back offered to someone by mistake

Jeff AtwoodPer this https://stackoverflow.com/posts/6250049/revisions You manually awarded the bounty to a specific answer. This can only be done through a javascript confirm dialog so it is not possible to do accidentally. Note that accepting an answer is a different and unrelated action. You can read a...

Jeff himself doesn't want you to get it
 
heeeeyoooooooooooooo
 
"You just clicked 'Yes'. Aren't you sure that you didn't not want to award this bounty?"Adam Davis Jul 2 '11 at 14:46
 
lmao
 
@codeMagic \o
 
12:17 AM
yo, CA. How's it going?
I need a new phone. Deciding between the CrapSung S9 and LG V30. Any (useful) thoughts from anyone?
 
Doing well. Long day at work is over and I'm chillin
I really like my Samsung Galaxy S8
More expensive than I really want to pay per month but it is a good device
 
The company is paying (while I'm still there) so not worried much about cost :P
 
That's nice
 
I have the LG V20 now and I've been happy with it until lately
 
12:23 AM
uhhh, not sure I can make calls, text, or email on that but thanks for the suggestion
 
but it has 4g
 
oh, I must have missed that
 
anyway, I'm still using a nexus 6, and the s9 is a samsung so I'd go with the LG V30, especially if you liked the previous model
unless you plan on blowing something up, then the s9 might be better
 
Well, I don't plan on blowing anything up right now but I also don't want to rule that option out
NSA, if you don't get it then go read a tech article and please stop following me. I'm not really going to intentionally blow anything up
 
any reason why not a pixel 2?
 
12:29 AM
Has to be Sprint
only reason
 
Congrats everyone we killed Windows sort of.
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lol
 
 
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5:03 AM
Good Morning
 
 
1 hour later…
6:07 AM
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!!! :D
 
6:35 AM
o/
 
Morning
 
6:56 AM
morning!
 
o/
@DaveS lmao
 
7:13 AM
o/
 
I'm in early today lol, think 7:35 is the earliest ever
 
yeah all people early today
 
wow nerd
 
why are you early anyway?
oh tim is early too
 
too much work i guess that's why all are early today
 
7:21 AM
Na I just want to leave early so I can do more work on my Flutter side project
 
Hiya Mark, Ronak, Eric, CF, Cygery, Tim, Ragunandan!!!!!! :D
 
tell me about flutter
 
Wanting to develop a proper app with Flutter and get used to it. Wanting to see if there's any performance issues with it or if it could be a good alternative to native android development
What you want to know?
 
Flutter is for cross platfrom dev with gives you native look and feel right
 
If you're wanting to use maps, don't use flutter, I don't think it's supported just now
There's some BLE stuff available already for it which would be interested to test out
 
7:22 AM
Hiya womp sup?
@MarkO'Sullivan oh
 
I might do that after doing a Flutter app, test out the BLE package for both Android and iOS
 
so it's just another cross platform framework
 
Made by Google
 
which promises 60 fps
 
anybody got time to have a glance at my CV draft? could use some feedback -> goslawski.de
 
7:23 AM
i mean that is what its supposed to be anyway
 
If you've got a web app using Angular, you could potentially use dart code for your logic in iOS, Android and web
Also looks like there might be desktop app support coming eventually (noticed a linux client in development on GitHub)
 
the major difference in flutter is it compiles down to the ARM code directly hence the performance boost
 
its does look nice. I have just started with hello world and in my spare time i will dig a little more into it
 
For me to give it a fair comparison to React Native, I'd need to make a Flutter component and put it into a native android app and see how easy the process is compared to RN. Honestly couldn't be any worse than RN's. It's been a nightmare, from RN Maps to just figuring out how to bundle up the RN package for the app when it's not a full RN app and only a RN component within an Android app
 
meh RN is trash imo
would ^ never do RN
 
7:27 AM
How you build layouts is confusing as hell in Flutter, nested components upon nested components
Honestly, it's pretty nice
 
Hello, Android!
 
but some weird issues we've encountered in the past couple of months
 
everything is nice until you dig deeper into it
 
Flutter or RN?
 
I think it'd be a lot better without Facebook
 
7:28 AM
CA online at this time?
 
yah, I'm up way to late once again
 
RN is just too slow for me
 
How so?
 
I read FB stock dropped $100B
 
7:28 AM
Not surprising
 
time for bed... gnite all
 
yes tim
only 100$b :(
should have lost at least 50%
 
I lost some money on Square stock yesterday ;-(
 
mark i mean the performance
 
As in the apps are slow?
 
7:29 AM
yup
 
o/
finally got the train i guess warren?
 
I just wouldn't want to spend any time learning X until it is proven worthwhile
 
^ also true
 
ionic has been proven worthwile for us
 
7:32 AM
I have done some mini projects with ionic when it was still in beta, was very nice but I sucked at it like I suck at all html css js things
 
fucking hell i need this pc^ :(
 
now that's getting into it's v4.0 it's super mature
still gotta learn html/css to use it tho
React native instead didn't prove itself useful to us.
nothing new or better compared to ionic, and the same bugs on the same core libs ( like maps, firebase, etc).
 
@ColdFire here you go pcpartpicker.com/list/hDW9J8
 
> 20753.90 usd
there goes my yearly income
 
D:
 
7:37 AM
it's better than 128GB, it has 1TB of memory \o/
 
who needs that much ram
 
are you fucking kidding me 1tb of ram?
there is no processor which support that much and in mass production
lmao eric
 
umm.... idk... like you could just use half of the ram as ramdisk and use it for storage
@ColdFire the two xeons e5 2699 in the build do support that
 
i will be satisfied with 64gb ram seems quite future proof to me
10 years no sweat
 
it has a lot of pcie lanes, I forget the exact numbers
 
7:39 AM
<3
i am ok with 16gb ram rn
 
why is scotland so pro catalan now?
seems phisy?
 
@ColdFire but just think of the 44 processing cores, a terabyte of memory, and a quadro and some throw in hdds and nvme
 
yeah 16gb is ok eric
but i want my next pc to be atleast 32gb one
 
it's never been against CF, & the fight for indy is cross national. ireland is pro cat too.
 
oh ok
 
7:44 AM
Christy Burke, the Lord Mayor of Dublin, has been a pro catalan indy advocate since his youth, and voted last december to fly a catalan flag in support of their bid
 
i'm so hungry D:
 
have a coffee
 
CF I have an imageview and I want to apply a border to it when it is selected, but the image overrides the drawable background
 
oh
can you post a ss?
 
of what
 
7:49 AM
of the image when its selected
 
when ever my product owner asks me how difficult a fix would be, I send him this: youtube.com/watch?v=LVLoc6FrLi0
7
 
there is nothing to show
 
:(
 
lol warren
 
but how would you do this?
 
7:52 AM
i mostly change the background color to show its selected
 
set background tint
 
tint is 21+ isn't it
 
no idea
 
^
with appcompat its backward compatible
 
isn't it support Vsomething
 
7:53 AM
anyway I'm not using that. I do image.isSelected = adapterPosition in selectedPositions
 
i have seen nowadays apps use a topright selected icon image to show that
 
and I have a state_selected
oh it's working actually
it wasn't showing because of some padding on the parent
thx brothers
 
oh lol nice
 
lol
no problem bro. we're your rubber ducks.
 
lol
 
7:56 AM
sometimes I wonder where I got all this rep
if I can't even get this right
 
well rep doesnt mean shit
 
hey tim don't worry about that.
it could be worse
 
@CptEric scotts are great
 
yay
i might go up there this year
if i get to save up some cash
that or netpork's land
depends on budget
i've already been on scotland b4 so i can wrap up a quick weekend trip.
but i don't want to be just 2 days in a new country
 
Have you been to Edinburgh? I still haven't checked out all the highlands
 
8:00 AM
yeah, but only for 6h
 
highlands you mean forts?
 
no, mountains
 
we planned to go to scotland with friends this summer, but alas no money
 
made a 8 day trip from my city to scotland by car
all across france, the channel and uk
 
wow
 
8:01 AM
didn't had time to go up to the highlands
stopped at the border, @Stirling
saw william walace's monument
drank ale.
 
wallace's monument is stonehenge right
 
I haven't seen his monument :(
 
@TimCastelijns no, it's a medieval tower where his tomb is
 
me too mark :(
 
the real william wallace was less pretty and more knightly.
 
8:03 AM
lol
 
althought the sword is badass.
 
i have played the age of empire william's campaign
full 5-6 campaign were there if i remember correctly
 
best game ever
 
william wallace first map took the castle by himself
 
8:06 AM
or wait, he spawned when the castle was destroyed
 
ok i have a question i have a activity and fragments in viewpager but the data required for fragment is with activity so should i wait for data to get than create fragment or create fragment and pass data when it arrived
i see the pros and cons of both :(
 
create fragment show loading state
 
^
 
but why is the data for the fragment in the activity?
 
it should be in a Service
and be provided to the fragment
 
8:10 AM
well not the data just the data provider
 
on rquest
 
and since both the fragments needs the data from the same provider
 
i would call from the fragment to the provider instead of fragment -> activity -> provider -> acitivty -> fragment
MyDataProvider.getInstance().requestDataBy(params); //show progress, expect results on a eventbus onEvent
 
@MarkO'Sullivan i am unable to run my hello world flutter app on device although flutter devices list the device and i can see the same in the toolbar of android studio. I am unable to get over this :)
 
it is fragment -> getProvider() -> provider -> fragment
 
8:14 AM
I would do fragment <-> presenter -> repository -> data provider, and have both fragment presenters use the same repository
 
tim i am not using MVP in this project this is MOS
 
ok lol
 
the only thing i am worried about is the provider connection time
it is milli secs on my test devices
 
put a loading, make it asyinc
people love animated progress stuff
 
why does that worry you?
 
8:18 AM
it could be higher in other devices
 
it doesn't matter right
 
nazis have burnt down the house-museum of a holocaust victim @ sarrià. suspects are 6 nazi teenagers freed last week due to them being repented.
welp
 
well what i am using currently is creating fragment after i have the provider
so sometimes i get Fatal Exception: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Can not perform this action after onSaveInstanceState
which makes sense
 
again: make it async
 
eric its already async
 
8:20 AM
I don't know about that, I have never used content providers
 
it's not if you're waiting for it to create the fragment
 
Fatal Exception: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Can not perform this action after onSaveInstanceStat one case where it is liely to occur is if you do a fragment commit in async callback
 
well i know why the exception occurs
 
i do most fragment transactions allowing state loss.
is it bad?
 
naah
but yeah should be avoided
 
8:21 AM
i mean, i never keep important stuff on fragments.
 
if you dont need the state saved then its fine
 
they're just views, no logic inside aside display data or send data to providers
been too long since used fragments last timetho
i am full into hybrid tech
 
hehe
 
speaking about that
we just released this :D
our last native app
for now
it's not been announced officially yet tho
so you have the exclusive.
:D
 
o/
 
8:25 AM
\o
 
o/
 
Does that support augmented reality or just static pictures?
 
ok fuck it just catching the exception for now
i will keep a tab on that issue tho
 
11 hours ago, by Tim Castelijns
don't forget to call technicalDebt++ after you shove this under the carpet
 
lol
 
8:28 AM
@TimCastelijns I'm not that knowledgeable of Flutter lol haven't hooked in a API yet
@Raghunandan run flutter doctor, it's probably something to do with system environment variables
 
@MuratK. no AR, we started the project in 2014
 
dont worry that exception is only occuring on 4.x+ devices
wont be that problematic
 
we have future upgrade ideas with AR tho
so it's possibility
 
@ColdFire yessssss
 
the quick visit is a browseable js-built 360º
but as said, we have AR in mind if they want to upgrade it.
the client's been delaying this project from time 2 time sadly, so this 360º thing is out of date. but the rest of the app predates material design :D
 
8:33 AM
@ColdFire bro 4.x+ is almost every device
 
we don't support < 5.X devices
 
we do, with minimal effort
 
i mean only 4.x series not 5.0+
 
@TimCastelijns well, same here then. a <5 user can expect the app to not crash on normal usage.
but if weird bugs arise, "it's solved on newer OS versions, try to keep your phone up to date with the latest security features"
 
four years?
damn
 
8:36 AM
yeah
we had most of it finished in 4 months
but the client kept dealying it due to cash problems, the photographers slacking, etc
every art piece has been photographed and scanned for the app and the future apps/software
& the app only displays those in "display", which are ~20% of them all
 
sounds like a app which will not generate revenue at all
 
not meant to generate revenue
it's for the museum 😃 as add-on audioguide.
it's already paid in the entrance fee
 
still you have to click through the app to get to the audio thingy
or do you scan something there so it pops up
 
that's planned too for end of the year
we are trying to get them into NFC tags or Bluetooth beacons
 
I would have used nfcs and instant app
 
8:39 AM
yup
it's our plan.
if they want to ofc
 
nice, can i be a project manager now :)
 
why?
we also plan to replace the current 3d sphere with a VR-ized version of the museum
for samsung vr / google daydream / etc
gotta plan it well tho.
 
beacons is also a great idea
 
yeah. we're currently isntalling them on a hospital
plus a network of hotspots, to triangulate patients and workers
 
nice
 
8:42 AM
the hospital is so big workers and patients get lost on it, and gps doesn't work between floor 0 and 10 ( out of 14), so we're making indoor routes with beacons & and the hotspots. pretty fancy.
my coworker is the one doing that tho. he's a genius in triangulation and ar stuff
i'll do the patient tracker app :D
gotta admit we're getting too much into IOT lately, and it's fun but scary
 
@CptEric same
 
fun because it's techie, and super neat
 
@CptEric NFC tags sounds fun, the other ideas sounds like you want to endure the 9 circles of BLE hell
 
scary because, well, ble, devices that get outdated, ble, having to write a SDK for it...
more ble..
yeah nfc tags are super cool
we plan to sell the idea of putting nfc tags to a local premium wine maker brand's labels.
let's see how it goes.
 
damn you guys are trying to be our competitor
 
8:46 AM
why?
who are you? :D
 
ooh.
 
@CptEric android p will support indoor navigation via wifi rtt
 
android O isn't even on 1% of devices worldwide
i can't wait for P to become a thing
 
eric vs murat fighto
 
8:48 AM
welp yes murat. sorry. hope you're not into the spanish wine market
else our bosses will have to box fight for clients.
 
(ง'̀-'́)ง
 
@MuratK. is that a joke or is that site supposed to be empty?
 
dont block scripts bro
 
what nfc brand you work with?
we're partnering with kontact for beacons.
 
nvm refreshing it loads the page
 
8:49 AM
can't tell, but it's basically the biggest on the market afaik
 
oh k
wait how do you manage tags online? you gotta have some kind of admin hotspot
and the tag be a ble-nfc-rfid hybrid.
awesome tech
<3
 
nfc, rfid etc. are all byproducts
we are building tech so you can control everything online
 
firm that did "here maps" is also doing indoor navigation stuff
 
neat.
 
you can even build scripts for the machines in the factory
and destroy everything <3
 
8:51 AM
skynet but with nfc.
lovely.
 
I saw a Q on SO about here maps recently. It looks pretty ugly
 
tim, what do you mean
 
never heard of "here maps"
 
neat murat
 
it's very grey, has a bit of a 90's look
 
8:55 AM
Amazon go is doing something similar, but they are actually using cameras in the shop... lmao no idea how that works
but apparently it does
 
tim, you are talking about "here we go" navigation app?
 
maybe, not sure. Are they not the same?
 
yeah, they just changed the name
 
also, they provide api for developers:
https://developer.here.com/?_ga=2.2739956.590167517.1501548053-915695839.1501548053
of course, not free
 
8:57 AM
wow mods elections were so close this time
 
"%1d$/5" if I pass for example 2 to this string, it shows as 2$/5. Why is the dollar there? It's part of the format
 
dollar is part of format since when?
for it to be in format $ has to be used before d
not after it
 

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