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03:51
morning guys
@ИрочкаСимонова You need at least 80 rep to talk here, and 20 rep to talk in chat
how do you pronounce that name?
Raghav when do you sleep?
No idea, no idea
 
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05:41
woa I must do this to the new apple office in India
> <DmncAtrny> I will write on a huge cement block "BY ACCEPTING THIS BRICK THROUGH YOUR WINDOW, YOU ACCEPT IT AS IS AND AGREE TO MY DISCLAIMER OF ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, AS WELL AS DISCLAIMERS OF ALL LIABILITY, DIRECT, INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL, THAT MAY ARISE FROM THE INSTALLATION OF THIS BRICK INTO YOUR BUILDING."
<DmncAtrny> And then hurl it through the window of a Sony officer
<DmncAtrny> and run like hell
05:55
><Insomniak`> Stupid fucking Google
<Insomniak`> "The" is a common word, and was not included in your search
<Insomniak`> "Who" is a common word, and was not included in your search
back when google was a smart ass
it still is, but not as much :P
good morning
and sup warren
i've got awesome news XD
not yet, coffee first :D
apple lost most of it's market share on spain these last 6 months to historical ( pre - Jobs) levels, a mere 7.4%
they're almost as irrelevant as windows phone
yes!
thank you for that awesome news early morning
my boss came back from singapore, he brought back chocolates
he thinks we're kids -_-
06:04
Apple is down to 7%?
in spain, yes
What's the most popular Android phone in there?
it's the average between computer devices vs mobile devices , there's slightly more phones in % but not many, a 9%.
hmm
depends
most pupular on total sales, the BQ brand
most popular in device numbers, samsung.
but because it's cheap and most companies give it for free with new contracts
BQ phones any good?
yikes. i've got one. they're durable and have awesome specs
06:07
Affordable?
like, the equivalent of an s5 or s6 for 270€
and with an almost stock android
That is not Xiaomi cheap
=p
no xiamis here
xiaomis
this phone got ESA funding for the galileo SAT project
Damn phone looks good
a new GRPS satellite system ^
yup
i want to see next year's models
they are super innovative
06:13
They only exist on Europe?
yup, deisgned in barcelona, electronics manufactured in hong kong, assembled and sold from madrid.
good phone
sup all
they also make awesome tabets
219€ for a better-than-ipad
and optonally comes with ubuntu or your desired touch linux distro
06:17
sup raghav
06:29
Morning
ronak hello
havent seen you in a while
Tablet is still a thing?
=p
Does any one own Nexus 6P and how is it compared to other phones in the market?
5,7"... too fucking big
yeah
sup warren
06:40
yup XD
my top is 5" anything bigger than that can't fit on my waistbag.
Hey Cold Fire, Yes I was away
its not only big but too costly compared to other phones like moto and samsung
5" is my max size as well
Raghunandan , Yes its costly here.
Why don't you try one plus
same price oneplus 3 and nexus 6p
and both are super expensive here
649,00 € the cheap one
06:43
No
for that price i get a decent laptop
or 3 Bq's and soem duct-tape
In india we have 6P around 35K while 1+ having 27K price
1+3: €399
then add in a 21% VAT tax + import tax because there's no spanish retailer selling it
06:45
Oh 2K costlier over there
yes its costly nexus 6p costs 35-38k in India. While i can get a samsung or moto phone for 15-20k with better featuers
Yeh Agree
hm... I didn't had to pay import tax on the one plus x
facepalm not samsung
"out of stock". i can't even get the proper final charges.
06:45
One plus x import tax , why ?
You are importing phone
It should be sold by local e-commerce site, I guess
Here one plus has been distributes through amazon only.
electronic things that aren't sold by retailers in spain must go through douanne, and there's usually an extra cost either for the company or for the consumer
i had to pay 8€ extra for my laptop battery from china that costed me 18€ :/
got it.
then again, usually the company absorbs the extra cost and you don't notice it
but those who doesn't , like amazon, simply put a "won't ship to spain" label , or others like small stores, charge it to you in advance :I
looking for cool things in amazon.co.uk is delusional AF
Oh. This is weird
yeah we've got also a tax canon on everything that can store music, video, etc... like in germany but strongerly enforced.
@WarrenFaith knows the shit.
06:49
I know the shit :D
yeah, as long as there's a registered e-store that sells it, prices go super low, ronak.
that's why i buy my shit in pccomponentes.es
lol the 5X is 90€ lower here now
Eric , You are getting things at higher price.
Even compare to India
not that much. your prices go high as soon as devices start being more equipped, like.. 60-70k for a decent i7 laptop
Have you been charge for Custom for buying/importing device outside Spain?
mines are well-stepped
06:53
I have bought a new laptop i7 from US , it cost me 550 USD
anyone worked with tablayout ?
it was $1000+ here
for buying electronics outside the EU treaties, yes.
I fail to get it to stretch to match_parent on width...
i mean amazon.in prices XD
i could buy laptops in usa , pay all taxes and still would be cheaper than here
same for smarthpones
06:54
aah. Yeah in india its 70K , I got it for 38K
Agree
@WarrenFaith yes
I have waited around 1 month after buying it as I can't import it through courier else I have to pay custom charges
i need a laptop from us :(
@RonakMehta how did you get the laptop here
Someone came from US so finally got it after 1 month and 20 days.
But it was a long wait
India custom charges are 42 % on price + insurance + electronic import fine
so it may be near to buy another new laptop from US.
thats why I have waited.
06:58
I had a worst experience with Indian custom department.
Guys are always ready to screw up.
importing gadget is fine.
You can import electronic gadget upto 2000K only for free , duty free
Customs stole the chargera and charging cable from something I bought once
Hell , with 2000 INR = $30 , hardly you get hadnsfree
It was just a regular micro USB...
Raghav , Once I asked for experience
Indian government is an asshole when it comes to electronics, they feel that people who can afford to buy good electronics are rich and hence put high taxes on it :(
06:59
At that moment my things were stuck in custom Mumbai
They ask for lots of docs.
@Bhargav hehe indian whole tax system is shit
need to bribe thats the only way
Bhargav , I also tried to gave this.
:P
And requested gently (begged)
lol
see i can't beg or bribe
07:01
lol
the guys at my customs are military police personnel and usually super right wing so there's nothing you can do.
07:39
bribing is risky, some of these customs guys act like they're patriotic
LOL. Agree
And they rejected it:P
but when their relatives come in they get a free pass
Yes
Power of position
07:49
o/
sup cyg
damn it
i am unable to reproduce a bug
what bug?
weird time thing, don't worry.
08:43
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Q: If time travel is possible in the future, no matter how distant, why haven't they come back to tell us?

Aric FowlerIn a world where time travel is possible, but will not be invented for the next 200 years, would travelers from the future come back to prove it exists? Surely, they would bring that technology back in time to let the people of the past use it? I have four theoretical explanations so far, can a...

well, jules verne knew everything from planes & submarines to space travel we have today , so that'd be a plausible "first and only time traveler ever".
asimov too :P
09:09
this answer actually makes the most sense to me there
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A: If time travel is possible in the future, no matter how distant, why haven't they come back to tell us?

Chris JBecause the earth orbits the sun at 30km a second, the solar system is moving at 20km a second and the galaxy is moving at 230km a second! Any time travel will result in the people being dumped out into the void of space... Maybe we need to set up some beacons to guide people to the earth throug...

imagine time travel is a sophysticate mathematic system that takes X hours to successfuly calculate W coordinates at Y angle at Z millisecond moment of the universe.
morning
sup red
hmm i tend to think of them as one and the same
so, you input 41.9393817283 Lat, 2.0303034944 Lon, 11 Nov 2014 14:10:03.903 and i'tll have to astorlogically calculate where earth was at that exact MS, it's rotation, etc.. to match the current one :P
09:17
but the time measurement of us humans is just created by us
there's already software that takes an vague approach at where stars, planets, etc... will be in X years
so?
what if time and space where the same? basically
what if the universe were to contract
its continously expanding now
what if you contract it, to how it should be 5mins ago
well that's something time-travel era astrophysics will know for sure
you'd essentially be going back 5 mins
is what I believe
i'm just a developer
:P
09:18
hehe
yea thats what im saying, they are one and same you go back to where you were 5 mins ago (absolute position) and you are at position/time 5mins ago
can you imagine the amount of energy you;d need to make the universe contract to 5mins ago's size
maybe with dark matter you could do it
ofcourse im a developer too, idk wtf I'm talking about here :P
wow so much thought bhargav
just talking out my arse xD
> There is the added problem that If someone was able to inherit from Int, you would have innocent code like "int x = y + 2" (where Y is the derived class) that now writes a log to the Database, opens a URL and somehow resurrect Elvis. Primitive types are supposed to be safe and with more or less guaranteed, well-defined behavior.
programmers SO is fuinny
I want the implementation of that instance variable Y's class
@Bhargav just plug a 12V wall socket to a black hole and you'll be fine.
09:26
especially the resurrect elvis part
Lol!
ill be the one that invented time travel then
well we could actually time travel the interestellar way.
just... only forward.
time dilation of black holes / s-novas
we could send a probe with a monkey or something, a gazillion solar-powered sensors that transmit relevant data inside of the probe, and keep releasing one of those sensors every 2-3 seconds. you'd get a whole timeline of surveyed data while Mr. Bananas is doing a "flyby" of 100-200 years.
actually a nice mission would be to put sensors all along the meteor ring 'round mars and earth orbit.
The asteroid belt is the circumstellar disc in the Solar System located roughly between the orbits of the planets Mars and Jupiter. It is occupied by numerous irregularly shaped bodies called asteroids or minor planets. The asteroid belt is also termed the main asteroid belt or main belt to distinguish it from other asteroid populations in the Solar System such as near-Earth asteroids and trojan asteroids. About half the mass of the belt is contained in the four largest asteroids: Ceres, Vesta, Pallas, and Hygiea. The total mass of the asteroid belt is approximately 4% that of the Moon, or 22%...
09:43
the sensors would be sending signal every 2-3minutes, but we'd receive it once every 2-3 years (i.e if 1 minute = 1 year dialation)
yeah
but we'd get 'em
that's the point
:p
was reading the new (2014) moon forming hypothesis
sounds pretty nice
we'd get em when we could observe it in real time, it wouldn't be from the future is all
yeah, but, as you collect the data
you get a timed timeline of data
that proves how things work inside
:P
09:48
yep thats true you could prove the dialation thing
wow what a thought
a 5.000 secs mission with 5.000 probes would do the job
enough data to avoid weird peaks
we'd have to subtract the travel time for the signals and we could actually measure the dialation
you could even spirally get inside and send them faster each time intil the ship no longer sends data
with a factor of 0.001 MS for each.. dunno in distances, 0.001% more near to the core than from the starting circular orbit?
09:51
so you solve possible time dilations that way and you don't end getting data at rates of 20 years or so
lol
the orbit would be huge though, so idk increase the factor a little?
yep true
hehe
go to nasa then
@Bhargav and @CptEric
we need 200 billion dollars, a thousand astrophysicists, and 5 years.
NASA has that
they get a trillion dollar a year right?
and alteast 10 space-related hackatons to get a working cheap probe design that can be produced in mass
dunno
09:53
they get like a cent from the tax dollar
19,300 Million dollars for 2016
so that's 19 american billions
yea 19.3 every year, that doesnt meet the 200b 5 year plan
wow what a amount
0.5 percent only
09:55
thats now
yeah
neil de grasse tyson said that with twice or thrice that fundung , the amount of tech produced from nasa research funding would end USA's economical crysis in a generation.
we need the first 50bil to let elon musk design whatever the fuck he wants as long as it flies fast and has the power to reach feasibily fast a black hole and other galaxies.

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