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20:11
@mattblang You've got write access read the rules etc. you probably know the drill
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coughs up another body part
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This cold is annoying.
Thanks nil!
you take any meds yet nil?
What do y'all think about implementing a global exception handler that would take a screenshot and allow the user to submit it just before the app crashes? Would this be feasible?
user457812
20:15
Far as I know, there is no good way to take screenshots programmatically, but that might have changed over the years.
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That's a question, not a ticket.
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Also, you got your braces backwards.
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@kabuto178 I'm taking antiinflammatories for my tooth that would interfere with other stuff.
20:20
ohh ugh >_<@ nil
lol ahmad
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20:37
God I hate having a cough.
:(
sorry nil
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Cough + nose + something unknown wrong with tooth
sucks to feel bad
My nose is not runny for once
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... A limo just drove out from down the street.
20:40
it is bad ugh
Politician?
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I highly doubt that, considering the only person at the end of the street is some weirdo who rents out random spots on his property for people to live on.
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Including at least a couple people there who are living under a tent made out of a tarp, apparently.
is that even legal
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It technically is. I don't really care about it.
user457812
20:42
I just hear about it because my dad and the neighbors keep complaining about it because they're worried about property prices.
Hello, again.
people need places to live :)
there was a tent city not far from my house a couple years ago
Ever slept in a tent? it's not that bad
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I have. Camping taught me one thing: we have houses and beds for a reason.
the tent cities were cool, like hundreds of tents all connected
20:43
lol I sometimes pitch up a tent in this room and sleep in it
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Well, Reno's just insane.
lol
a fort made of a blankets is better
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goes back to reading this Baldur's Gate 2 let's play
20:44
RED_ get's it
forts are for kids
have not heard about that for some time now
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There is one exceptionally creepy/weird mod for BG2: the Saerileth mod.
Forts are for manly mans
teepees > tents AND blanket forts
teepees are awesome
you can have a fire in a teepee
user457812
20:47
The Saerileth mod being the one that basically adds a girlfriend to BG2. It's really weird.
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Had to actually hunt down those pictures because seeing them kind of helps understand how weird it is.
tickle :)
lmao
Teepees are awesome, never been in one, but they look cool
Oh wait, I've been in one
A few years back
food time
21:05
is everyone using Java 7 for Android Dev?
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I'm obviously not.
I know
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So the answer to your question is no.
i dont think so
probably?
user457812
21:07
If I'm a member of everyone and do not use Java 7, then the answer to your question is necessarily no because some members of everyone don't use Java 7.
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I CAN DRAW A VENN DIAGRAM TOO!
I do Android, and try not to think about it very much
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I do Android in the button onClick { toast("your face") } way.
toast.makeText(context, R.string.your_face, Toast.LENGTH_LONG).show();
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Though I haven't touched any code for Android in a while.
21:08
yup been doing this too damn long
So my buddy hates Turnery statements, so now I use them WHENEVER possible. It's pretty amazing
Ternary statements are great.
Your buddy is wrong.
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def toast(rid: Int, length: Int = Toast.LENGTH_SHORT)(implicit ctx: Context) =
  Toast.makeText(ctx, rid, length).show()
/* implicits make everything better */
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Incidentally, Scala doesn't have ternary expressions
user457812
21:10
I could add one to it, though..
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e.g., trueExpr ?: cond :! falseExpr or falseExpr !: cond :? trueExpr
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Or even cond :? trueExpr :! falseExpr, I guess, should be possible.
python: foo if True else bar
apparently frowned upon tho
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The simplest way in Scala would just be to do if (cond) trueExpr else falseExpr but that's too easy.
but I use it all the time
user457812
21:21
theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/jan/14/… ⇐ In case anyone likes Mogwai.
21:45
anyone know of any issues where a textview might not be clickable the first or second time I try to click on it?
I've got a small textview that I've overridden the onClick for, but when I push on it nothing happens until the third time I try.
22:02
lol wow
my full android logs has errors from Crashlytics not being initialized and the culprit app is Evernote.
what's the best tool for debugging where click events are actually going to?
Log.d()?
yeah, the log is only printing that the click event is happening when it appears to work on the screen
I thought maybe it was because the UI thread was too busy
Are you doing setClickable(true)? I don't believe TextViews are clickable by default.
but even if I wait for a while for the UI thread to do all it's trying to do (too much, another issue), I still can't click on the textview 100% of the time
see the problem is it's intermittent
sometimes I can touch the textview and right away the onClick fires
other times I have to click on it several times before it does
Hierarchy viewer doesn't seem to show anything unusual
and setting the background on the textview shows a reasonable space for clicking on.
if you swap it for a button, does it improve?
22:16
does anyone here have any knowledge of Smali?
specifically is it possible to create an application with Smali rather than java? or if I've received a project folder that contains only smali sources is it likely that it was decompiled from an apk?
yes, kcoppock it seems to work better as a button
but as a button the size of the clickable space is larger
@FoamyGuy I'd imagine a decompiled APK is the most likely scenario, yeah.
I noticed the other day when uninstalling an app it launched a browser with a survey. Any idea how i can do that?
@CarlAnderson I think TextViews may only respond to click events on the actual text content, and not include the background in the sizing.
i think so too ^
you can add padding to the textview and see if it responds to clicks to test that theory
22:27
Sounds like a good test
ok, I'll try that
I also didn't have clickable="true" on the textview
so I'm trying that first
although it's confusing that it would fire the onClick event sometimes if that was the source of the problem
Ok, I was thinking that as well but definitely open to other opinions
nope, when I make the padding 100dp on the textview and click on the open space of the textview it clicks through just fine
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The annoying part of installing Linux, aside from the installing part: waiting for the torrent to finish downloading.
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'Cause at least the actual installation part means I'm doing something.
22:32
but that should not take long for your internet nil
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You clearly haven't experienced the internet in Idaho
well I think I'm just going to go with the button, as that seems to be working ok
The internet is faster elsewhere?
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Connections are.
which part of Idaho are you in?
if you don't mind me asking...
22:36
the slow part
IIRC, you went to BSU, right?
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I'm in Sandpoint
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If you don't know where that is, it's very far north and roughly an hour from the Canadian border.
I have some friends from Sandpoint
I'm in Boise, atm, but I went to school in Moscow
and for the rest of you, that's not in Russia
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22:39
There's actually a Boise over in Washington too.
orly?
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I knew some people from Sandpoint when I went to BSU, but I haven't kept in touch with my classmates.
I haven't much either ;-(
only a special few
There's a Cairo in Illinois. Of course the ignorant locals pronounce it "Kay-row"
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We pronounce Moscow in Idaho differently from the Russian city / capital.
22:41
moss-koe
not mos-cow
those sound the same to me
kow sounds like row
do you mean they say moss-koe
oh, maybe that's more clear lol
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22:43
Mossko.
rhymes with roscoe?
'murica!
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Yes.
well, looks like I have to start over on adding ActionBar to my app...I let it sit for a while and merging into the development since then seems to be more trouble than just starting over
22:46
kinda rhymes with idaho too
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Ok, Ubuntu 13.10 downloaded.
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I feel a little sad using Ubuntu as my distro.
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I am betraying my Slackware heritage.
traitor!
=p
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But I've gotten lazy and rebuilding kernels just isn't something I do anymore.
22:48
can we just say "it's not windows"?
and be ok with that?
I'm starting to wonder if my test suite is worth all the trouble.
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My reason for being on OS X is it's not windows and it has software I actually use
that's a good reason
on both counts
osx is awesome
so is ubuntu
so is slackware
even tho I havent used sw for 4+ years
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So OS X was my compromise. It had a shell and POSIX compliance and it had software that doesn't suck.
user457812
22:49
But Apple's slowly eroding the POSIX part so I'm moving forward the switch-to-Linux plans.
Is anyone having issues with Eclipse/ADT?
in Ubuntu
I use Eclipse ADT on Mac :P
I use Eclipse on Linux Mint
yeah, my windows 7 works fine
ADT is the plugin, right? Not the full package from the android dev site.
22:51
could it be, nil <b>might<b/> actually use linux
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I used to use Linux.
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Also I use IntelliJ on whatever EAT IT ECLIPSE USERS.
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dances then falls over coughing
22:52
need to exercise more?
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Sick.
intellij ^_^
I haven't brought myself to sit down and take serious look at intellij
and what do you think?
I use eclipse in ubuntu too
user457812
22:54
Nothing makes me more paranoid than typing sudo dd if=... of=/dev/disk and worrying I'll type the wrong number and accidentally hit enter.
I think I should do it...some day
I sometimes find myself thinking that I should start my app over from scratch...
in order to add improvements like CursorLoaders and ActionBar.
but I can't quite bring myself to throw away my baby
got that right
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Alright, got the live-CD-USB-key working.
now you can actually start doing the installation
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And break something.
user457812
23:08
This ubuntu menu search thing is useless. It doesn't show me xterm.
hrmm...I just realized that I have to extend ActionBarActivity with every Activity in my app...
dunno why I thought I'd only have to do it with the main activity
Just drop GB. Do it! :D
unfortunately, my own phone is GB
:O
What do you have?
Cyanogenmod that shit
nope, haven't rooted it yet
still I'm awfully tempted to drop GB and just test on the emulator
user457812
23:19
Ok, installing now.
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I'm just going to assume I didn't break anything and sit here in chat while it's installing on the other monitor.
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Although there is an upside: Ubuntu now ships with a wifi driver that works on retina MBPs.
> "Nil is doing a great job as room owner. I hope he keeps it up and continue to bring awesomeness and good times to the room.
Here here!"
Nil must have written that himself =p
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I question the logic of that, considering I don't actually do anything.
23:21
or paid someone
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It's going to be fun extricating unity once I'm done with this and hopefully have it booting.
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The booting part might actually not work. That was always the.. odd thing to manage with rEFInd.

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