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"Let our advance worrying become advance thinking and planning." -Winston Churchill (source)
 
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04:19
dreams of electric sheep
 
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05:40
@OakBot I just finished the book ^_^
@Tavo Type /help to see all my commands.
06:19
If kotlin is the future, why people still use Java ?
Anyone have any answer ?
;)
 
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08:49
morn
morn
It isnt the future
theres your answer
09:00
/fatcat
Zoe
Zoe
@theapache64 If Kotlin is the future, why would anyone think of using anything except Kotlin?
In any "this is a good tool" discussion, there's always additional personal preferences, along with issues.
For one, Kotlin adds a bunch of extra stuff that Java doesn't have, which means it can mean Java is slightly faster (although that might be unnoticeable). The lower level you go, the faster it gets, but the more code you have to write
There's no "one language" for coding, they all have their uses.
Also, Java is written in itself, Kotlin runs on the JVM (for Kotlin JVM. Kotlin JS and Kotlin Native are exceptions)
Some languages may dominate, but no one language will ever be used for everything
09:36
@Hans1984 :D
@Hans1984 Have u tried kotlin in any project ? ?
.
no
but i had a look at it
but theres always this "new language" which supposed to be the replacement for everythign else
just for the next language to come up and do the same
I dont buy into that
every language has its purpose
yes you're correct
but the only thing disturbs me that 'why google took it official at the early stage of kotlin'. :/
am in a huge dilemma :(
i tried learning kotlin some time , next day i wrote code in java.
like am addicted to java :/
@Zoe Thank u for the response
well if you can chose which language
just pick then one you prefer
09:42
that's the problem
but it never hurts to learn an additional language
i can't choose.
for example
right now im trying to learn c++
that's great.
yeah it sure helps to have java knowdledge
09:46
I am uncomfortable on switching multiple languages.
lots of similarities
i also put my head into python
its quiet neat
hmm
anyways, i'll think abt it.
:)
yeah switching is hard
you cant realy master one if you switch to much
more like jack of all trade
master of none
for me its more like I did java for so long i needed something refreshing and new
yeah, good luck on figuring it out ;)
thank you :)
good luck for you too :)
09:50
I sent a mail to jakewharton this morning abt this :D
i want to kill the dilemma where am currently in.
once he said kotlin. I'll be chasing kotlin from that moment.
:D
probably he'll say "stick with both" :( and i'll have to live with my dilemma -_-
Zoe
Zoe
10:21
@theapache64 Kotlin JVM does everything Java does, so you don't need to use both.
You can if you want to of course
It's not about the ability of both languages. I am confused which language will be used most by the community in future.
10:33
noone knows
except god
;)
but he doesnt give a sh.t about coding
so
No honestly I wouldnt pick my language on what MIGHT be "in" for the community but rather on what I as a developer prefer
Hey@Hans1984
hey Hem
What's up?
weekend ;)
trying myself with c++
Oh I didn't realize it's weekend as I don't have schools anymore 😂
That's nice!
Is c++ same as java?
10:43
some similarities
most games are coded with it aswell as windows
Yes I'm aware about it.
But it's good to learn different languages
yes
its alot easier than japanese
which i've been learning for 1.5 years now
;)
Haha yeah
Can you speak Japanese?
10:49
not alot
Okay.
like i said im learning it
;)
/8ball do you have any hershey left ?
@Hans1984 It is decidedly so
cool
Yeah. That's great. I know learning a new language can be very hard.
10:55
yeah
I'm so bored at home. I still have 2 weeks left to go to Australia. That feels like months haha
will you ride some kangaroos ?
I have an index.jsp page that I would like to display a list on books from my DB. I don not want to click a View Books button or link, I simple want to show the list of books from the DB upon loading the page. How is that done, if anybody can show me any article that does that. Thank you
@Hans1984 No haha
;)
hows the weather in australia right now?
does it ever get cold
10:58
It's 24C.
It does get cold but right now it's summers
cool
It doesn't even snow :(
In Germany it snows, right?
we had some snow the last days
not alot though
but in south bavaria is snowing like crazy
11:01
I bet people don't even get out of their home when it snows like crazy 😂
its realy bad over there
Yeah.
one boy got killed by a tree that crashed down on him because of the weight of the snow
That's terrible
It is
they declared disaster alarm because of the weather conditions
its real heavy
11:04
Yeah.
Wow that's crazy
12:00
Human trafficking around the globe is estimated to generate a profit of anywhere from $9 billion to $31.6 billion. Half of these profits are made in industrialized countries. (source)
12:21
I should change jobs given those figures...
into the human trafficking biz?
:>
no its like coding
only the ppl on the top get rich
no need to switch
12:33
damn...
they offered me a few camels for one of my ex-girlfriends once
on hindsight, I should have accepted
googles price of a camel
"Female Ride Camel - 14.000$"
USD?
I should definitely have accepted...
I guess... Lives in Florida.
she was cute, but definitely not worth that much :D
There are also some sales for 3.5k but I would still consider that quite a deal!
12:38
camels for sale? mmmmm I'm sure they run on diesel water. Probably not worth it
You can have a look at the camels (and a pretty ugly website) here: exoticanimalsforsale.net/camels-for-sale.asp :P
WOAH!
It's even a little responsive! I didn't expect that...
I fear going into reddit and looking for the camel subreddit
bahahaha
 
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morn
morn
 
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17:18
lets see if the new Ryzen3 can beat this :D
https://imgur.com/a/NZuU8qh
18:04
@geisterfurz007 I wouldn't trust that website; it says squirrels are exotic animals.
 
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Is it good practice to have a @Version annotated field to support optimistic locking in JPA entities? Or is it not something one should be bothered with, unless very specific needs?

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