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23:00
@rdlowrey it's slow
not even loading for me
user895378
Grrr.
What's GitHub?
@webarto =oO
> 22:47 UTC We are currently taking a DDoS attack and are working to mitigate. The site may be slow to respond, and you may struggle to pull/push code via SSH - we apologise for any inconvenience.
how come they are always getting DoSed?
I would think the hacker community would love opensource
user895378
23:02
Super localized question: has anyone had success using the (undocumented) ZMQ::SOCKOPT_FD ext/zeromq constant to pull the underlying file descriptor from a ZeroMQ socket and subsequently use libevent to receive notifications when the socket has readable data?
It's an excuse for being slow.
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user895378
^ I don't expect anyone to answer that, but worth a shot, right?
user895378
Because it should work, but it doesn't work.
I don't even know what you are talking about.
@crypticツ i am creating a login program . so is it more secure if i create a hash from the hash of the password.
or to just use salt with the password
23:05
@aashish2s use BCrypt, don't ever use MD5
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@aashish2s github.com/ircmaxell/password_compat/blob/master/lib/… use that, currently offline as Github is being attacked, but once it's up check it out and use that.
Hey, dont know if this is the right chat for this question. Any reasons why the text is outside the inputfield <input type="text" name="heading"><?php $pagename=textpage($id);echo $pagename ?> </input>
GitHub works for me?
@Sebastian you need to echo it inside a value=""
Anonymous
23:09
where is the value
@crypticツ github is working
@cryptic ill give that a try thanks
@Sebastian because </input> doesn't exist
@Sebastian <input type="text" name="heading" value="<?php $pagename=textpage($id);echo $pagename ?>" />
@kaᵠ AFAIK </input> is still valid as it is closing an empty tag.
its useless though to do it that way though
@crypticツ what version and what protocol ?
23:12
HTML any
@crypticツ It works now =) Strange because this works <textarea rows="40" cols="90" name="editpagetext"><?php $page= Textareapage($id);echo $page ?></textarea>
@Sebastian because textarea is not an empty tag and it's value come from what is contained within the tag itself unlike INPUT which takes it's value from the value attribute
@Sebastian <input> doesn;t have an end tag as <br> <hr> etc
@crypticツ Ok thanks for clearing that up.
@crypticツ Nopez. Not valid
23:14
@crypticツ put your w3s cert to work... link him up :D
i was expecting some reply that "</input> is valid", you can make it anyway, but on standard protocols?
You can only self close it
This is valid <input type="test" />, but this isn't <input type="text"></input>
@ka Any particular reason why i shouldnt use w3schools?
Would it be valid under XHTML?
and you only need to selfclose in X*ML
under xhtml it MUST be selfclosed
under html 4 it shouldn't and in html4-strict it can't
@crypticツ I believe it is valid in xml
Transitional xhtml that is
23:19
@Sebastian IMHO for learning HTML it's really good
I was just wondering since people always complain about it
What do you know. It's also valid under strict xhtml @crypticツ
@Sebastian Because it's a shitty site that promotes vulnerable applications and they just don't care about it nor do they want to change their vulnerable code
So it would be valid under XHTML5?
Probably
However everybody should just use HTML period.
/me ducks for cover
@PeeHaa Ok thats not good=) I'll guess i wont use it for anything beside html.
23:23
@Sebastian Just use MDN for HTML and JS
so... <input> is a void element so it doesn't have a tag, in XHTML must be selfclosed and in HTML* must not, Transitional will bare with or without
Too many variations!
@PeeHaa So is it bad I do everything in XHTML5? =o\
I mean I don't do </input> of course =oP
user895378
When I said this:
user895378
32 mins ago, by rdlowrey
Because it should work, but it doesn't work.
user895378
I really meant, "I'm stupid."
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23:35
:D
@crypticツ Bad meh, but why would you do that?
@rdlowrey Consider yourself pinned sire
user895378
Yes!
:-D
@PeeHaa there's someone suggesting i use psr-2 for oauthlib
also guess who has a three hour flight delay?!?!?!? <--- this lucky guy.
@Lusitanian I read it. Didn't want to dive in and start yelling
23:38
@PeeHaa yeah, i was tempted to write some rant
but i'm going to come up with a diplomatic response instead
@rdlowrey yeah, normally "it's not working and i don't know why." means "i made a stupid mistake and i'm too stupid/tired to find it."
user895378
Exactly.
user895378
It's a pretty safe bet that if I post a longing question about "hey has anyone ever had problems with this really niche scenario?" in chat I'm completely exasperated by something I'm clearly too stupid to understand.
@rdlowrey if it's TL for stackoverflow then you're generally right
@PeeHaa i broke on the PHP 5.3 thing (and btw, The Great Phil Sturgeon tweeted about it, link in a sec), but this is annoying
If you release PHP packages that require PHP 5.4 _JUST_ because you want to use short array syntax, then I hope your pet gets run over.
@PeeHaa ^^
I was tempted to write a really ranty response but then decided against it
23:44
@Lusitanian I saw it this afternoon ;P
8 hours ago, by Gordon
besides, it's Phil Sturgeon. God knows how many kittens died for his CI work
@PeeHaa yeah i know. CI was/is awful
Woot, I knew getting 32gb of RAM would be useful
@ircmaxell running many a VM?
not a single one right now
in fact, I'm running Chrome, and one other application
...how many tabs....
23:50
like 12
and how much RAM is it using?
user895378
@Lusitanian How about, "Hey dude, 5.4 is like 10,000,000% faster than 5.3. Upgrade and stop being an idiot."
chrome? only about 800mb
@rdlowrey yeah, that's a good response :D
but he's talking about shared hosts
if you use a shared host you have no license to bitch about anything
After Effects is using 28gb though...
user895378
23:54
Shared hosting is for a front page, a contact form and free email addresses. If you're running an application don't complain about shared hosting. Get real hosting.
@rdlowrey exactly
@ircmaxell holy carp (yes, carp)
and the GPU is sitting at a nice 54*C... the CPU is at 42*C...
user895378
(Adobe)
23:57
@rdlowrey Imagine if Adobe software were written in Java.
Photoshop: We suggest a minimum of 48GB of RAM.
user895378
hehe
@rdlowrey this rendering is using a total of about 2 million unique moving particles...
@ircmaxell pssh....2 million unique moving particles? i had 2 million unique moving particles before i was born
user895378
I'm just jealous of your big RAM sticks.
user895378
Now I have to flag myself for inappropriate messages.
Mama, just killed a man, put a gun against his head, pulled my trigger now he's dead. Mama, life has just begun, but now I've gone and thrown it all away...

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