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@webarto Netherlands would be cool if poss
@Jimbo Amsterdam is largest internet knot in Europe I think, so that's the best location (in any case).
@shredding I'm thinking proxy or something sticking it's nose in on the machine where it's not working but I'm just trying to make it work on my local first
Getting a slightly different error
Which error do you get?
12:10
model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5620  @ 2.40GHz
cpu cores       : 4
model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5620  @ 2.40GHz
cpu cores       : 4
model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5620  @ 2.40GHz
cpu cores       : 4
model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5620  @ 2.40GHz
cpu cores       : 4
model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5620  @ 2.40GHz
cpu cores       : 4
model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5620  @ 2.40GHz
cpu cores       : 4
I really don't know how to thank for your efforts!
Does this mean it's 32 core CPU?
@webarto They look sexy :)
@webarto baby you have got a fast pc .... very fast .... very very fast :P
No, no, it's a server :P
@Jimbo I download lots of pr0n and then convert from flv to mkv :P
12:18
@andho no matter which renderer I use for markdown, it wont highlight the php code. I've tried maruku, redcarpet, kramdown and rdiscount with ~~~php, ~~~.php,```php and {% highlight php %}. Each with and without <?php. It doesnt work on the blog while it does work on github
@webarto: How much memory? :)
@Gordon i'm checking this: stackoverflow.com/a/13614020/170007
@webarto O_o
@NiekBergman Mem: 12009 (RAM of course)
@Jimbo where are you currently hosted?
12:20
MB I assume?
Then I still have you beat on RAM :P
My server has 64GB RAM ;)
@andho jekyll supports redcarpet2 already. the plugin is not needed
@NullPointer chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/11?m=3280226#3280226 downloaders are my fetish :D
@webarto and its like jaw dropping moment for me
(my PERSONAL server :P)
12:21
@NiekBergman This pr0n only server :P
@NullPointer MB ^_^
@webarto preg_match('#mp4_url=([^&]+)#is', $html, $matches); Shame on you
@PeeHaa HAHA
@NiekBergman ramnode.com I have this one, $2 a month :P It's great.
Ok, you have me beat on price then.
I pay like 200EUR a month on hosting :(
That's still cheap for 64GB server.
That's for 2 servers actually.
12:23
@webarto omg its too cheap i paid like 9$/month for shared hosting
One of them 64GB.
One of them an additional VPS.
@NullPointer Shared hosting, what's that? :) Actually, there is a coupon for this one, you get for $15 a year.
@webarto before 7-8 month i did not know much about website development and hosting so i brought a godaddy Ultimate shared hosting
anyone handy with doctrine?
and that was my first mistake
12:26
@NullPointer Sorry to hear that :( What are you requirements for hosting?
@webarto all i wanted to have is my own domain and hosting
@NullPointer I can give you free shared hosting if you want. (cPanel and stuff)
@webarto thankyou ..
but i will buy dedicated working on slightly bigger website
@webarto also i have paid one year payment .... and yet its like 3-4 month remaining
12:32
Yeah, shared hosting is a gamble, it can be great, and it can suck. Depending on your "neighbors" :)
@webarto it get stuck even without any traffic
:D
GoDaddy sucks
@PeeHaa Sorry, didn't see the msg. I'm with Kimsufi, server in the Netherlands
Sweet, just got sent an O'Reilly coupon code.
50% off ebooks :)
@NiekBergman Oh cool, I'll validate it for you. What's the long number across the bottom of the coupon
12:36
@Jimbo "DSUG2" :)
lol
@NiekBergman oh, really?
@webarto ahhhh that video was awesome ..
It's not limited, feel free to try it out ;)
accept the flag please
12:37
@NiekBergman Glad it's not limited otherwise would've said delete it! Cool, it works!
(on US site)
I think it's only for books by O'Reilly publishing though.
Hi guys
@shredding I've cracked it
DaveRandom: I'm like super excited and curious
You need the root CA certs on the server as well
The cert you have is an intermediate cert
12:41
Okay.
That sounds interesting.
who know something in administrating unix-like systems
I guess I'm overriding the certificates instead of adding one?
who can set up double openvpn service between two debian servers if i'll send an ssh root
@shredding To verify this, just copy-paste curl.haxx.se/ca/cacert.pem into the bottom of the cert file, you should find it work
12:42
@NiekBergman Hmm, the code doesn't seem to work any more
@shredding (that's not a long term solution, just to verify the problem)
@Jimbo: What book are you trying to apply it on?
What error message does it give you?
@NiekBergman Ohh it's for E-Books only, not print. Ah well! :P
@DaveRandom: give me a sec
YAY!
@DaveRandom: It works!
@DaveRandom: That is like super great.
I've been on that for 3 days now.
@Jimbo Chris Shiflett write really cool on security
@DaveRandom what was those certs doing?
@DaveRandom I have some interest about it
just copypaste 'em and all begin to work
@NullPointer Hi
@fibertech hello
@Jimbo: don't like ebooks?
12:49
@NiekBergman i think ebook is really pain to read
@shredding You need to tell people who use the lib that they need to have the root CA certs installed and updated, wiki.gandi.net/en/ssl/intermediate has info about about what they are doing and why
@NullPointer: depends on the device you're reading it on.
I like my Nexus 7 for ebooks.
@NiekBergman yupp exactly i read on PC and it hurts my eyes ....
@NiekBergman what makes it easier to read on that?
@NullPointer: try Nexus 7, Mantano Reader or Moon+, low screen brightness. :)
12:50
@DaveRandom: Can't I just deliver the certs with my sdk?
Or the device made for reading, Kindle.
@NiekBergman not available in my location .. :(
@AdamLynch: adjustable screen brightness, "swiping" through pages, more book-sized.
@webarto: I like color. And the Fire is basically just an Android device anyway :P
@NiekBergman :)
@webarto kindle is cool i am thinking to buy that ..
12:52
@NiekBergman compared to what? Something like an iPad?
@shredding Well you can but it's not completely secure (although it's better than disabling verification) if the root or intermediate cert is revoked at some point. However, if that happens the host cert should be altered as well and verification should start failing again.
@NullPointer I have the basic one, works for me. Can be a pain sometimes is format is not right, but if you buy from Amazon (book), then it's all good.
@AdamLynch: iPad is too big ;)
Okay, I'll do that as fallback, like in the facebook sdk
thank you so much again, @DaveRandom
@ircmaxell Why are you so negative? :P
12:53
And I generally don't use iStuff anyway (I'm typing this from a Mac Mini though, but it's not mine :P)
@shredding np
@webarto I am not
@webarto the one which isn't backlight though. I'd say the fire isn't good compared to the E-Ink one. And that new paperwhite one; I heard the lighting is uneven
@NiekBergman hmm... I've been thinking about getting the 7 for awhile but I don't know... not 100% convinced yet
@fibertech See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_certificate - the cert he had was not a root cert but an intermediate, cURL was throwing up because it couldn't verify the entire trust chain
@AdamLynch I have a few friends who have the Nexus 7, and they LOVE it. I'm personally waiting for the 2nd gen 7. I have a Xoom right now, and it serves me quite well
12:55
@AdamLynch: well, I like mine. But to answer if it fits your needs, I'd need to know what you want it to do.
@ircmaxell You usually say Word or similar, nevermind, morning.
@ircmaxell yeah same here but no one I know bought it to read or to test web apps
I have a few people who use it to develop with
@AdamLynch Yeah, e-ink one, Kindle3 I think. I wouldn't buy Fire because that is entirely other purpose device.
@webarto I heard the Fire's weight isn't well distributed either so it's v hard to hold with one hand at the bottom
12:56
@NiekBergman Yeah, but I prefer solid books in my hands
I actually read ebooks on my tablet - but I think when it comes to programming, I'd like an actual book
i had a mobile phone(galaxy s2) and i tried to uninstall phone software, separate all parts of phone and done some stupid thing ... now i have land line
Not sure why really!
reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/18tm01/… <-- that comment tree shows that people still don't understand escaping and PDO.
@AdamLynch Not sure, I'm not "gadget freak" at all, I'm so passee :)
12:58
finally. got it working with kramdown. at least locally
@Jimbo: The only book I'd not buy on as an ebook is "Troubleshooting broken eBook readers" ;-)
@webarto I was told that by a guy who won one. He said don't get one
I actually won a Fire
I went to a talk given by Big Fish games at my university
boring stuff... they're not exactly cutting edge
turned out I won the kindle :/
left early
@ircmaxell Why don't you write a blog post? (if you already haven't)
(they passed around a signup sheet at the start of the talk for it)
I've written a lot on the topic, but a post isn't a bad idea
13:01
@ircmaxell I liked your blog post about CSRF yesterday :)
thanks!
everybody goes surfing … csrfing USA
@Jimbo subscribing :)
@ircmaxell Just explain what PDO isn't, and also if you s/mysql/mysqli you're not automatically safe. I think you know what I mean, I just can't word it properly.
@Gordon couch surfing? :P
@webarto that as well
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<meta content="authenticity_token" name="csrf-param" />
:\
couch-csrfing? CSRFing couchdb?
Why like this?
LOL
Hello, has anyone here read any of the O'reilly books?
@AdamBrown Nope, but I was about to buy (or ask my company to buy) two of them :)
Particularly the learning PHP, MYSQL and JS
13:06
@webarto I have an idea how to word it...
I really want to learn PHP and people say they are good
@AdamBrown JS: The Good Parts
@Jimbo so you think they are worth it?
> Cross-site request forgery, also known as a one-click attack or session riding and abbreviated as CSRF (sometimes pronounced sea-surf)
@Gordon :D
@ircmaxell That would be great so we don't sound like a parrots.
@AdamBrown Only reason I'm going for them is because I've done a lot of research online first - if a book doesn't explain something very well and you're a newbie, you're screwed - where as on the internet you can ask questions / open another tab and do a quick google in a short space of time keeping you in the loop.
13:07
@webarto yeah, you cant help reading it like this. much like cnt never resolves to count in my brain
@AdamLynch hey Adam, what are they like. I mean, easily digestible for a beginner?
@webarto I pronnounce it C-S-R-F (spelling it out)
@Jimbo yea true
@AdamBrown not 'JavaScript: The Good Parts' anyway...
@AdamLynch eeek
13:08
@AdamBrown as far as I know that PHP & MySQL one is more so
but not 100% sure
@ircmaxell that is Wee Eee Aii Arr DD
@Gordon YAML, INI, MySQL, I always spell this, like @ircmaxell CSRF :)
@AdamBrown their books vary
@Gordon perhaps... But how do you pronnounce SQL?
Es Kyu El
13:09
@Jimbo do you already know PHP and want it more to expand what you know then? Or is it more to help you start?
@webarto YAML: yammal, ini I spell out, mysql: my s-q-l...
@webarto I say "yumml", "eennee" and my s-q-l. although sometimes
@ircmaxell i use both s-q-l and sequel although I think to remember that sequel is only when you refer to the language as such or something
@AdamLynch in quality I take it?
@AdamBrown It's that I already know PHP and want to expand more into how I write it, rather than what I write
@Gordon Like so, guess we're wrong :P thanks @ircmaxell
13:10
sequel is only valid for SQLServer (MS product)...
@ircmaxell same
@webarto it doesn't matter...
@Jimbo ah ok
@AdamBrown in a lot of ways. They're all written by different people
unless you're pronouncing PHPASS... Then it makes a difference
13:10
@ircmaxell yeah something like that
I've gotten some laughs at conferences trying to pronounce that... PH-PASS? PHP ASS?
@Jimbo I get the impression the PHP, Mysqyl etc is a quality book, lots of recommendations
Lol, trying to access ircmaxell's blog using my Rockmelt browser on my phone = app crash
I lose a train of words if I get stuck at some.
13:11
I have the following books from the O'Reilly bookstore: MySQL Troubleshooting (physical), The Art of Intrustion, The Art of Deception, Social Engineering: The Art of Human Hacking.
(Don't ask about the last 3 :P)
@AdamLynch Yea that would make sense
we finns usually call mysql "mysli" as in muesli :)
@Jimbo It's maxell :P
postgresql is "possu" (pig)
@raspi haha
13:13
@webarto Of course it is! That's why I put that!
@webarto not far from the truth...
@Jimbo Did you teach yourself PHP?
@AdamBrown Yep, but once I'd learned how, along with some OOP and MVC - I really wanted to better myself and so learned MVC, how to write your own barebones framework, best practices etc. I'm learning all the time
@AdamBrown I played with myself = i learned php by myself :P
@DaveRandom: I had a look how payment provider in shopware are dealing with the problem and they all bypass the verify peer ...
13:15
@andho past tense? haha :P
@andho You might want to edit that :D
@shredding Yeh that is the "solution" that pretty much everyone uses for things like this, there are a lot of posts around the internet telling people to do that, it really sucks.
it's the indian version
gnaaaaAAAAH!! I hate you Github. I hate you
13:17
@Jimbo Yea I've started with a really simple CMS I just didn't want to pic up any bad habits along the way
@shredding: Yeah, I don't like it either. Just wondered that even payment providers implement alike
@webarto hi
I made syntax highlighting work on my local machine but it wont work when I push it. FUUU GH!!!
the amount of time I wasted just because of you
too many Nikita's on internals... hard to follow
we might have issue with chat
13:19
Woot! up to $30 from youtube... Now to make it $30k...
Delta16 and Suhosin patch
@Gordon go for dedicated :), I was using staticloud.com until they shutdown :( was very happy with it
@andho my VPS offers a one click install of WP. I am tempted
@Gordon just go blogger
13:22
@Gordon i dumped WP cox it was crashing my aws micro instance
@Gordon I would recommend against installing a security backdoor onto the server unless you really have to...
@ircmaxell does it support markdown?
@ircmaxell yes. that's why I am resisting the temptation.
@Gordon not directly, but you can do raw HTML. So you can write in markdown, then compile to html and inject it...
@ircmaxell meh
not arguing...
13:23
@AdamLynch @andho @Jimbo Hey guys thanks for the words. The fact that at least two people have read books by O'reilly here gives me confidence. I think I will buy it
I prefer html anyway, as I have full control over everything...
I know I can do a lot of that with markdown, but things like iframes are just ugly with MD...
Bye see you soon
@ircmaxell why would anyone use iframes in a blog post? all i want is headings, paras and code blocks
@Gordon I use them for embedding YouTube videos into posts...
13:26
@ircmaxell why would you need an iframe for that?
because I want it to use an appropriate player. That's how YouTube's embedded player works... It loads a compatible player for your OS, and supports ad impressions...
@ircmaxell fair enough but since you can embed html into MD that would work without having to write the remaining article with HTML
13:30
@webarto You're scary
A username and password are being requested by test.lookingnew.com. The site says
can haz haxor
@Gordon @Jasper what browsers, firefox? (chrome ignores it)
@webarto yes
@webarto yep
@Gordon I know...
13:31
Thanks.
@webarto stop hacking SO chat
@webarto i am also getting this in chrome
i take it you cant use global variables in javscript like you can in php?
@ConnorMiles sure you can
well i have this
chat.lastid = function () {

	$.ajax({

		url: '/ajax/chat.php',

		type: 'post',

		data:  { method: 'id'},

		success: function(data) {
			data = JSON.parse(data);
			mine = data;
		}


	});

}
13:33
@tereško Well, I'm not, that just seems wrong to me, that you can do that :\
@ConnorMiles please use pastebin.com
@NullPointer thanks, I tried on Version 24.0.1312.57 m, but it maybe just a default behavior, it makes sense, although not on image tag, IMHO.
@webarto np ..yours welcome
@Gordon pastebin.com/6ttJytqt please look for me (Y)
13:37
@ConnorMiles i a busy. sorry
Hey all. Can anyone explain why this was deleted? stackoverflow.com/q/14197952/561731
@webarto: You might want to synchronize the clock on test.lookingnew.com ;)
@Neal because it was closed
@webarto: Your system is off around 26 seconds.
@Gordon so? What does that have to do with anything? lol
13:40
@Neal why should we keep questions that are not real question? that makes no sense
@NiekBergman Not my site, just ran into image behind HTTP auth :)
@Gordon it wasnt a NARQ it was localized. dunno why it got closed as a NARQ
@webarto: I see :)
@Neal if it was too localized the OP surely has seen your answer by now. so we can delete it because it adds no value for anyone else.
anyway. busy
13:45
I have a huge multi-dimensional array that i am fetching from database, each sub array contains a row of table. I am trying to json encode it, and it gives an error when it comes across a value "http://www.abc.com".
can anyone help me with it
buy my answer was irony
@ScoRpion... what error?
@AdamLynch undefined offset 6
I am sure its the problem with url value, may be with slashes
if i try with select * from table where id = all those rows which dont have url, it works fine
@ScoRpion... running json_encode gives that error?
@ScoRpion... there's a lot of different flags you can use with json_encode too btw, might help to look into those
off the top of my head I know there's ones about converting string integer property names to integers, etc
@ScoRpion... wait I think I did see something like that error before
json_encode only works if the thing you're trying to encode is in perfect order
you can't encode a associative array like 0=>a, 2=>b
@AdamLynch I dont have any other option, I would be pleased to wait... lolllz thanks for ur time
13:54
or even 1=>a, 2=>b
what you mean by perfect order
if you've an indexed array (or associative array whose keys are string integers) you're trying to encode , or inside the array you're trying to encode, it'll only work if the indexes start at 0
and the next is 1, and so on
no misordering
no gaps
@AdamLynch Oh really,
actually i am fetching the records from database and i guess its taking id as index. So can that be a problem
@ScoRpion... yeah maybe

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