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12:00 PM
here is my code :
je suis lé
<h1>Ajouter un acteur</h1>
{% if message %}
<p>{{ message }}</p>
{% endif %}
<form action="" method="post" {{ form_enctype(form) }}>
{{ form_widget(form) }}
<input type="submit" />
</form>
<p><a href="{{ path('myapp_acteur_lister') }}">Retour à la liste des acteurs</a></p>
 
that looks like Twig, not PHP
 
it works, (the first line is wrritten correctly )
yes it's twig
but when I retrieve a string from one function in the controller : the retrieved string is not written correctlly, here is my controller function :
public function editerAction($id = null)
{
$message='';
$em = $this->container->get('doctrine')->getEntityManager();
if (isset($id))
{
// modification d'un acteur existant : on recherche ses données
$acteur = $em->find('MyAppFilmothequeBundle:Acteur', $id);
if (!$acteur)
{
$message='Aucun acteur trouvé';
}
}
else
{
// ajout d'un nouvel acteur
$acteur = new Acteur();
}
$form = $this->container->get('form.factory')->create(new ActeurForm(), $acteur);
$request = $this->container->get('request');
if ($request->getMethod() == 'POST')
 
please , use the button
 
I didn't inderstand what you want to tell me
what is the font button
 
if ( $you->press(Button::FIXED_FONT) )
{
    // the code looks like this
}
 
12:05 PM
 
I have no "fixed font" button, only "send" and "upload"
 
It appears when your message has more than one line.
 
now I understand, me toon I don't have fixed button only send
 
When you paste code, or press Shift+Enter, it appears.
 
@Robik thanks I had never noticed that.
 
12:07 PM
@Robik you are right thanks
 
Please read the Chat FAQ.
 
returning to the problem, do you have any idea
 
@tereško Shouldn't it be pressed ?
:P
 
ehh .. too late
 
12:25 PM
any good book for cryptography?
 
user1125394
12:36 PM
@user201892
 
user1125394
public function editerAction($id = null) {
    $message = '';
    $em = $this - > container - > get('doctrine') - > getEntityManager();
    if (isset($id)) {
        // modification d'un acteur existant : on recherche ses données
        $acteur = $em - > find('MyAppFilmothequeBundle:Acteur', $id);
        if (!$acteur) {
            $message = 'Aucun acteur trouvé';
        }
    } else {
        // ajout d'un nouvel acteur
        $acteur = new Acteur();
    }
    $form = $this - > container - > get('form.factory') - > create(new ActeurForm(), $acteur);
 
@Jocelyn That's not a dupe (of the suggested dupe question), for the same reason I want to re-open my suggestion.
 
@salathe there is no earlier one for this?
 
@Gordon There will be lots of them, sure. But not the one being suggested above.
 
@salathe then it is a dupe of this earlier one: stackoverflow.com/questions/660644/…
 
12:39 PM
@Jocelyn absolutely
 
sometimes there are so many dupes or almost-dupes that it looks like a jungle
 
@Jocelyn I'd be surprised if any PHP question hasn't been asked before…
 
@salathe New functions and language constructs are changed or added to PHP from time to time, so there will be new questions that have never be asked before. It also means that in some cases older questions may be more easily solved using these new functions
 
@Jocelyn No shit, really?!
 
@salathe I changed the dupes with the fitting one.
 
12:45 PM
morning
 
@Gordon Try harder, needs a filter iterator in the dupe too.
 
8 mins ago, by salathe
@Jocelyn absolutely
 
@Gordon I guess sarcasm doesn't come across too well with one word
 
make up your mind whether its absolutely a dupe of that or "try harder"
 
@Gordon My absolutely wasn't in reference the question i want opened, btw.
 
12:48 PM
@salathe definitely didnt work in this case
@salathe the q you want reopened is from this year. are you sure you didnt answer this before or at least know a more fitting dupe that the one given right now?
 
@Gordon Just to clarify. The try harder is for this and the absolutely was for this.
@Gordon I am not sure that I didn't answer the same question earlier, likely back in the last century. I do not know of a more fitting duplicate question, nor do I care to go look.
 
@salathe eih, whatever. ill vote to reopen
 
@Gordon If anyone finds a true duplicate, then I'll happily vote on it! :)
 
 
2 hours later…
hi ,coud someone help me with this. if the tax limit is 5 euros, how can I calculate the sum with is in the limit
the result should be 21
 
Huh
 
should i expalin again?
 
Yes.
 
ok
in Finland you need to pay VAT if the imported product's value is over 21 euros. And I want to calculate, how many euros I can spend before the limit is exceeded.
can you understadn it?
 
2:49 PM
That's not a PHP question but a basic math question.
 
yep
but I would like to know how can I count it with PHP
 
$tax_limit = 21; - not sure what you want to calculate...
 
Check this, this and this.
 
hmm sorry I formatted the question wrongly agai
let me try again -
 
The links I gave you should help you with the issue.
 
2:52 PM
I know that the VAT value 23% needs to be maximum 5euro
the vat can be calculated 0.23x where x = product price
and I would like to know how much I can spend before the value is exceed 5euros
 
why are you both talking to small-avatar people ?
 
so your requirement is: 0.23*x <= 5
 
@Jocelyn yes, how I could make it with php
 
@Olli Did you read pages I gave you?
 
yes,they do speak nothing about solving expressions
 
2:58 PM
@rdlowrey: Please do not blame curl over the top because of stupid users. For example it is very useful at the command-line. :) - reading github.com/rdlowrey/Artax/wiki
 
Okay, I give up...
 
@Robik I think you are giving up too easily. I think 0.23*x <= 5 is an expression.
 
It's an expression. What do you want to solve in this expression?
 
I want the x to be solved
 
Probably the maximum possible amount of euros spend (incl. taxes) that are exactly 21 euro without taxes?
 
3:01 PM
it is a basic math problem
 
yes, but I don't know how can I solve those in PHP
 
you don't solve it in PHP. Use math knowledge for that
 
but I need to it be solved in PHP
 
0.23*x <= 5 means x <=5/0.23
 
since I need to change it easily in php
@Jocelyn but 5/0.23 is something I can put to PHP!
so I can use it?
 
3:04 PM
Happy Birthday @NikiC
:)
 
@Robik Thanks
 
I still fail to understand what your problem is, @Olli.
We can't teach you PHP from scratch
 
@Jocelyn yes I readed them
my problem is that I want to know how can I solve 21 on php
and now you told it
it's 5/0.23
 
@Olli You mean, you don't know how to solve a trivial equation?
 
I didn't know how to solve them in php
 
3:07 PM
Do you know PHP?
 
Math is always math, whether it is used in English language or in PHP programming language
 
yes
@Robik I have done many sites using PHP
 
I'm afraid then. D:
 
why
 
Maybe elementary math isn't necessary for programming?
 
3:09 PM
@Olli they told you the formula already. what else are you hoping for in an answer? just put it into PHP.
 
so you have x <= 5/0.23 Now i take my calculator, and it gives x <= 21,739130434782608695652173913043
 
just ignore him
 
yep it is
@teresko ....
 
I wish I can. I just cannot ignore people. :(
 
@Robik Same for me
 
3:11 PM
It's too brutal for me
 
I don't have no small avatars :(
 
3:27 PM
I still dont get that small avatar thing.
 
user1125394
how much is binomial coefficient (3, 5)
 
user895378
@hakre You're right -- curl itself is useful. It's the curl_* functions in PHP I'm not a fan of. Also, I've made significant improvements to the internals of the code over the last couple of week which will invalidate some sections of the wiki. Also, I spammed the dartlang room in the middle of the night with some new features. If you want to see the latest, you need to browse the v1.0.0-dev branch and not the master.
 
user895378
@NikiC happy birthday!
 
user1125394
should be 5*4/2
 
user895378
@hakre Also, there's a couple of scripts with demo functionality that are pretty nifty as well if you do ...
 
3:39 PM
@rdlowrey btw, that wiki page says something about the curl api being functional
you probably meant procedural
@rdlowrey Thanks :)
 
user895378
You're right --especially after watching @ircmaxell's latest whiteboard video :)
 
@NikiC All the best ;)
 
user895378
git clone --recursive git://github.com/rdlowrey/Artax.git
cd Artax
php cert-updater.php -f
 
user895378
And then test out the multi-functionality:
 
user895378
php test/multi-demo.php
 
3:40 PM
@hakre thanks :)
 
You should allow to pass a stream for verbose information, so it could be set to STD_ERR or just some temporary file to be read out later.
With curl you really need to hack it, but sometimes it's nice to have.
BTW, in PHP is there a function to read the contents of a SplFileObject? Similar file_get_contents?
 
user895378
@hakre Good idea.
 
user895378
@hakre Also, that's the whole point of what I'm working on ... so I can have the "really nice to have" features without needing to hack anything. There's very little remaining at this point that the curl_* API can do that I can't (regarding HTTP -- I don't care about ftp or other transports at the moment).
 
user895378
proxy support, optional cookie storage/handling and automatic gzip decompression of entity bodies are all in the works as well.
 
user895378
And the Client::sendMulti functionality is infinitely superior to curl_* ...
 
user895378
3:50 PM
$multiResponse = $client->sendMulti(
    'http://www.google.com',
    'http://www.facebooke.com',
    'http://www.yahoo.com'
);
 
@rdlowrey Not sure if I told you yet, but...
@rdlowrey You're awesome :)
 
user895378
Thanks :)
 
can anyone help me here on job advice?
 
user1125394
start by reading the text on top right of this window
 
yeah i know, this is also one of the only pretty active chat rooms right now @cyril
 
4:01 PM
@Yohann unlikely. pick a job you like and can grow in
 
@Gordon I always have hated the way things work in jobs, recruitment agency spamming, idiotic bosses, HR clogging up the salary spectrum, and general bureaucracy in an organization :(
I also wondered why companies bother writing a job description if its inaccurate (5 years of experience in HTML5)
 
@Yohann find a startup. they usually have flat hierarchies and less bureacracy
 
@Gordon That would be exciting if I was in SV, however I'm relocating to Melbourne, Australia
 
@Yohann im sure they have startups there too
 
@Gordon I'm afraid its not really as vibrant here, as the culture here is a bit more laid back though....but I guess there are a few.
 
user1125394
4:16 PM
 
@cyril lol
 
user1125394
or this freelancer.com/jobs/HTML.1 it's similar
 
user1125394
nah jk
 
@cyril: Some people in here or even in the javascript channel would starve in this case.
Because hey, getting people on SO to write your code is clearly not coding :P
 
4:33 PM
@cyril That's you?
And hi
 
user1125394
excuses to HTML coders, that do a fantastic job
 
user1125394
@MadaraUchiha in 40 years yes
 
user1125394
@ThiefMaster yes SO is worse with people answering freely jQuery question
 
user1125394
they reinvented slavery
 
Heh come on, jQuery questions are usually the easiest way to get 100 rep and two badges ;p
 
Ivo
4:36 PM
hey guys what you think is faster?
(array) $var vs array($var)
 
Those calls do different things.
array($var) creates an array containing just [0]=>$var
(array)$var converts $var to an array
 
Ivo
both are being called on a string (several times though)
@ThiefMaster seems like array($var) would be the way to go
 
if you want an array containing the string as its only element yes.. and it's probably more future-safe
tbh, i'd have expected (array)$str to create an array containing all the characters
 
Ivo
@ThiefMaster ;P thanks! i thought the same... but who ever knows!
what about empty($array) vs $array == array()
 
@Ivo you should really benchmark those
 
Ivo
4:44 PM
!!$array seems the fasted lol
wel !$array reffering to the previous one
 
@Gordon why? Because,
> it should be closed and deleted or merged with an older one to produce a canonical
That's pretty obvious. And you can't get much further away from "extremely common duplicate" than "Too Localized".
 
@Ivo empty($array) seems to be faster by around 60%.
 
@Shog9 when there is already 20+ easy to find dupes, then asking the same thing yet another time is unlikely to help any future visitors
 
@Gordon So basically, your attitude is "closed is closed, doesn't matter what the reason is"?
 
@Shog9 if i asked "how to to list all even values from array" , would it be a duplicate or too localized ?
 
4:50 PM
@Shog9 in that particular case: yes. we deleted it anyway.
 
@tereško A duplicate, because others will have use (and would probably search) for that.
 
@tereško that's a duplicate
 
and what if someone wrote , "why <insert code> is not listing all the even valuse from array ?" ...
 
@tereško That would be a localized, with a link to the canonical question/manual entry.
 
in both cases the "real question" is the same .. only in second case it was hidden
 
4:52 PM
@tereško Are they giving you a page of mostly-irrelevant code? Too Localized. Is it two lines and a misunderstanding of how floating-point values work? Probably a duplicate.
 
Ivo
@MadaraUchiha have you tried !$array as well?... O.ò
 
@Ivo Nope, let's try.
@Ivo empty() seems faster actually.
 
@tereško Too Localized is: "Unlikely to help any future visitors". Specifically, unlikely to help them because it's so specific to the asker's situation that no one else will ever have the same problem or describe it in a similar fashion. It is about as far from "this is an extremely common problem" as you can get.
 
also , to know if value is even or odd you do not need to know how floating point works
 
<?php

$array = array();

$time = xdebug_time_index();

for ($i = 0; $i < 100000;  $i++, empty($array));

var_dump(xdebug_time_index() - $time);
That's the code I use
 
4:54 PM
@Shog9 I think you are getting caught up in "principles" here.
 
5 mins ago, by Shog9
@Gordon So basically, your attitude is "closed is closed, doesn't matter what the reason is"?
 
5 mins ago, by Gordon
@Shog9 in that particular case: yes. we deleted it anyway.
 
If you're just picking a reason out of a hat, then yeah, anything related to the actual reason is irrelevant.
 
lets take another example : user posts a wall-of-code and ask , "please help. My code is not working" ... is it too localized or not a question ?
 
@Shog9 I'd argue we should have a "This question is easily answerable via simple research. See the manual page of the corresponding language." or something similar close reason.
 
4:56 PM
@Shog9 well, I explained it to you multiple times now. Dunno what else to tell you. We are the good guys here. We try to keep that place tidy. You are protecting a lazy OP asking blatant dupes. And dupes should be deleted.
 
@tereško In that case, I wouldn't care, since it's both.
 
@tereško ^^^ That.
 
what if the problem is clearly visible and is caused by misuse of header() and "doesnt work" means , "shows warning that header has already been sent" ?
 
user1125394
also think easy question !== too localized
 
@tereško Since the OP hasn't bothered even forming a coherent sentence for his question, still, close it down, until he edits/reposts it in a better manner.
 
4:59 PM
@Gordon I really don't care about the OP one way or another, beyond the fact that it's my job to review folks who've hit the automated block and determine if they had ample opportunity to avoid that. When folks are lying to them about what's wrong with their questions, it makes that harder.
 
so .. we are liars
 
@Shog9 I sure did not lie to him. And it's not my fault he got banned.
 
@Gordon It's his own fault he got banned. He asked a simple question, twice.
 
users do not get banned for single bad post
 
@Gordon But yes, you did. That question had issues, but "Too Localized" wasn't one of them.
 
5:01 PM
@Shog9 of course it was too localized. As well as a dupe. Besides, I apparently also added the dupes, so I dont see the problem at all.
 
What question are talking about?
 
user1125394
hundreds :p
 
@Shog9 I think there should be a warning
Something in the notification
 
@Gordon You added the duplicates long after voting to close, and long enough after voting to delete that the edit didn't apply until after the question wasn't even visible anymore. And - this is the bit that boggles my mind - you're giving someone else crap for answering a duplicate, when no one had bothered indicating it was a duplicate
 
> WARNING! You are very close to getting automatically banned! read the FAQ immediately to improve the quality of your posts!
 
5:06 PM
@Shog9 "long after" was how many minutes exactly?
 
I'm really struggling to see how you can't see the counter-productive nature of that bit. If you don't want folks answering duplicates, then indicating that it's a duplicate by voting to close as such seems like a pretty obvious first step.
 
@Shog9 the only one counterproductive atm is you. We are keeping this place tidy and you keep fussing about that
 
@Gordon Who cares how many minutes after deletion you edited it? Shutting the barn door after the horses are gone there.
 
@Shog9 when you claim "long after" you should somehow back that up, shouldnt you?
 
user1125394
@Shog9 I'd agree, it's like badly curing a disease
 
5:07 PM
@Shog9 Can't argue with that one
 
@Gordon Again, if you delete the question it doesn't really matter if you edit in dup links 3 seconds later or 3 days later - they're not doing any good then.
 
@Shog9 I cannot delete. I am not a mod. I can only vote to delete.
 
Ivo
thanks
 
@Shog9 Every close reason offers a link to the FAQ, even if it's not the 100% exact reason for the question to be closed, helpful information for the offensive OP is still there.
 
@Gordon That's a cop-out. Do you normally vote to delete things you don't think should be deleted?
 
5:09 PM
If he's willing (which he isn't 99.9% of the time), he can improve his ways after the first question.
 
@Shog9 its not a cop-out. I cannot control when things get deleted. I can only vote that I want them deleted. If that coincides with me adding dupes, then that's just that: coincidence - you are blaming me for trying to be helpful to the OP by adding dupes for him.
 
@MadaraUchiha Only works if he has time to see it, which - again - doesn't really work if it's closed for a bogus reason and then immediately deleted.
 
I really don't understand why people constantly get into this mud. I don't recall have these problems in the past.
 
If I'm wanting to pass a lot of information from my data validation method (in this case to give a user a choice between a value they are sending to the server and the previous value) to my view with a redirect after post, where might I put that data while the page is loading? In the request (it might be a lot of data)? In the session? Flag things in the DB (but I'm not saving it until they confirm)?
 
@Gordon Of course I am. You didn't have to vote to delete. There's a reasonable chance it would've taken longer to be deleted without your vote, which means your edit might've been seen by the asker, which means he might not've posted a duplicate of his own question and half a dozen others.
You wasted a tremendous amount of time by jumping the gun there.
 
5:12 PM
@Shog9 do you have anything constructive to propose , or did you come here just to rant ?
 
@tereško Close questions for reasons that match the problems exhibited by them. That is all.
 
@Shog9 the only person wasting time here is you by complaining that we helped keep this place tidy
 
@Shog9 unfortunately there is no "custom reason" field in close-vote dialog
 
But yeah, it's Saturday and I've wasted too much time on this mess already. If you don't see the problem, so be it.
 
@Gordon I think the point is, while it's helping now, it's damaging in the long run, preventing from the OP to improve.
@Shog9 However, they usually don't want/give a damn about/need to improve
 
5:14 PM
@MadaraUchiha which is clearly not the case.
 
user1125394
if you find a right duplicate to a question, you educate more the OP, he will understand that his question was already asked ...
 
They just want they dang solution, whatever the means, and if they need to open 3 more questions, and one by chance gets their answer because other answerers didn't follow his last 2 questions, so be it.
 
@cyril that's not how SO works
 
@tereško That's actually exactly how it works.
 
user1125394
right there are also urged OP, that want people to search the answer for them (did that myself :P)
 
5:15 PM
@Gordon I don't know this specific case, link please.
 
@Shog9 the issue apparently is that OPs don't get notified in a helpful way when their questions get deleted which in turn leads them to ask their question again. fix that instead.
 
@tereško The problem with that, is that people like you (no offense!) might have a bit of looser tongue in those custom messages.
 
you close the question as duplicate and ad least third will repost the question , and another third will just go "oh well .. nobody knows the answer"
@MadaraUchiha how often have to noticed me having "loose tongue" in the main site ?
 
@tereško Not much really, but that's because you normally don't comment on questions voted for closing.
You don't want to waste your breath/time/sanity, which is understood.
 
@Stephane how much is "a lot" ?
are you talking about uploaded videos or published articles for a review here ?
 
user1125394
5:20 PM
@tereško that's really my personal experience, I firstly asked many questions, because was getting easily the answers, then gradually I understood with the "duplicate" thing that I was creating noise
 
@Stephane or a 20 item array from survey form ?
 
@tereško no blob data, just an array or maybe some templating stuff if I'm feeling lazy. Just more than a simple error message.
 
@Shog9 I mean, yeah, maybe the OP really didnt see why his question was closed and was confused (and not just stubbornly asking again). If you dont want that to happen, dont hand out insta-delv privileges at 20k or make deleted Qs always visible to the OP.
 
@Stephane if you want to hold errors between request , you should store the error code , not the whole message
but anyway , usually you store such data in session
 
@Shog9 Fact is, we have to delete the newer dupes if we want to be able to still find relevant existing question six month from now. It already got next to impossible for all the datetime related questions. There is just too many of them, duplicating answers and spreading good quality answers all over the place instead on a few or one canonical.
 
5:25 PM
@tereško ok, thanks. If it was just a simple error code, I would agree, but it's not. It's possibly comparisons of dozens of data points with possible comparison output. Hard to explain, but thank you for replying.
@tereško I'll go with session.
 
Hey guys, I am trying to use Google Analytics trackEvent but it doesn't appear to be working. I am trying to get this to work on the "User Guide" navigation option: rotorz.com/tilesystem
 
@salathe Huge fan of SPL Examples. Your work there is simply amazing. Now I know exactly when to use each item in the SPL!
 
@LeviMorrison thanks
 
@Gordon In all seriousness, the SplHeap and iterator examples are helpful.
 
Using _trackPageview appears to work, but _trackEvent doesn't seem to do anything.
 
5:36 PM
@LeviMorrison well, I was serious about the "thanks" since I contributed to the examples :)
 
@Gordon I noticed.
I haven't really used heaps much as I typically prefer trees. It's a good example for a sorted structure if someone wants to use built-in sources only.
And the FilterChainIterator example is lovely.
I never use the DomIterators as I always seem to need XPath or XQuery stuff instead.
 
@LeviMorrison it's no longer necessary though, since there is a native CallbackFilterIterator. It only accepts one callback, but that can easily be a FilterChain, too.
 
I:m sure they have use-cases.
 
@LeviMorrison yes, I never had any use for the DomIterator. It was more like a proof of concept
 
posted on November 24, 2012 by Lukas Smith

This summer I took 2 months off to figure out what I want to do in the coming years. After over 5 years in Switzerland it seemed prudent to take a step back from the daily routine to ponder things. I wrote a lengthy blog post about the options I was considering a while back and as I never really gave an update on the results I just wanted to point out that I decided to stay with Liip. I wrote u

 
6:13 PM
@Gordon By the way, I'm about to endeavor to build a Linked List for my SPL project.
Any feature requests?
 
Damn, your repo has grown up a lot!
 
user1125394
@Stephane try PhpConsole extension
 
@Robik Indeed it has.
 
Why Android does nt support min-height ?
 
@cyril looking...
 
user1125394
6:23 PM
I'm using it very useful
 
@Robik It actually does get used :)
 
@LeviMorrison I remember it when it was a baby :P
 
@Robik There's probably 0 code left from that day.
 
Really? You rewrote everything?
 
Yes.
I like it a LOT more than I used to.
 
6:27 PM
Wow
 
Much better designed.
 
@cyril cool, but that doesn't output anything on the browser which is what I'm looking to do. So do you use it to capture events while you're developing and testing? Or are you using it to monitor your application as people use it?
 
I see it's not only about datastructures.
Even cooler :D
 
@Robik Yeah, more like a whole library.
I had a decent number of followers so I didn't want to rename.
 
Well, renaming it does not recreate the repo so it keeps the followers. But unfortunately GitHub does not create redirection for old link, you would need to create that repo again with readme pointing to new location.
Not worth it imho.
 
user1125394
6:39 PM
@Stephane you need to include a phpconsole.php as well as the extension, and it will log on browser, read it's written
 
@Robik Exactly.
 
@cyril I'm not seeing anything about the extension. I'll keep looking, but if you have a link, that would be nice.
 
user1125394
read close to "How to use"
 
Hi
I have just seen the worst mysql database ever with 1.5GB of data and it has one Blob column that contain full html "from head tag to all dom elements". I need to transfer this 1.5GB mysql database to a test server. What is the best way?
 
I am wondering how to have a navigation bar with one of the links not be an actual link because its not really a page but in the sub nav are the two pages
 
6:49 PM
make it a # link
so it will never go anywhere
href="#"
This way it will drop down as well as have a link but on any page when someone click s it will stay on the same page
 
user1125394
or just href=""
 
but it is done through wp admin panel and I don't know how to control it
 
ok in the admin panel go to that menu and instead of page link create a custom link with #
 
@benlevywebdesign For example?
Most of those things can have pages
 
Goto Appearance and menus and it will be in primary menu
go in that menu and create a new custom link with # in it
name it same as this link
the custom link is above the page links
 
6:54 PM
@MadaraUchiha benlevywebdesign.com/templeisrael/education this page I don't want so temporarily I just put this text
 
Yes you need to create new custom link of Education and it will appear at bottom
then move it up next to eduation
move adult and children under this new menu link
then delete the old education link from the page
got it
Is this auto generated menu or you have created this menu
how can i put separator here
i need to ask a different question here and it goes into my previous conversation
 

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