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They're $7.99 and if you have prime or place an order over $25 you get the shipping free.
Battery with the tools for $36
Check this.
Well, you didn't say all that.
I'd need this one although.
Which is $70 (or 80-85 with tools) but doesn't ship to here. Next time.
See you. Good night.
 
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01:25
Is it tacky to respond to an email discussing a second interview with "Fingers crossed!"
01:37
@Tiffany If it's the recruiter, no. If it's the hiring manager (or they're CC'd on there), then yes.
01:51
Unsure if it's a hiring manager, but I've already joked a bit and it was received well (at least I think so)
02:29
Has anyone heard from @wes recently?
 
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05:49
FFI:structure/union alignment [ext/ffi/tests/022.phpt] failure ・ Testing related ・ #79356
morning all
 
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cmb
cmb
07:31
@Girgias see spl_iterator_apply which is called iterator_apply()for an example
07:59
morning
cmb
cmb
o/
08:13
\o
@Sherif Not aware of that functionality at least
@LeviMorrison because zend_object already includes one property
You can go thank C++ for the lack of FAM support
So we have to use zval[1] instead, which also means subtracting that one extra zval again
@NikiC well, they want to introduce it in C++23 though
(which means that we will be able to use it around 2030?)
@bwoebi They're a bit late to the party
I heard there might even be guaranteed NRVO in C++23...
And I say a wonderful proposal, I forgot about what, that basically looked like "auto template ... template auto ... typename auto template auto template ..."
template <template <template auto...> class F, template auto... Args>
using apply = F<Args...>;
Ah, this was it :)
08:32
moin
Daylight savings time really fucks with my schedule
doesn't matter, we'll all be dead from coronavirus soon anyway
I was not disappointed by the chosen title of this proposal
08:48
@NikiC I used to think I was missing something about C++ and it made sense in some way I wasn't capable of understanding. "used to..."
09:06
Agreed @Tiffany. I already keep really late hours, the one benefit for me I guess is that the sun doesn't come up as early.
@NikiC I mean, it makes some sense when you read that universal template parameters proposal ... but reading it as is, this is just token soup
cmb
cmb
\o
09:22
o/
sup
ugh, not again.
09:58
sounds fun
let's do it again!
10:13
SOAP request segfaults when any request parameter is missing ・ SOAP related ・ #79357
10:43
php_1       | ==6== Invalid read of size 8
php_1       | ==6==    at 0x64D42B: ??? (in /usr/local/sbin/php-fpm)
php_1       | ==6==    by 0x67ACA3: execute_ex (in /usr/local/sbin/php-fpm)
php_1       | ==6==    by 0x681FC2: zend_execute (in /usr/local/sbin/php-fpm)
php_1       | ==6==    by 0x5FD4D2: zend_execute_scripts (in /usr/local/sbin/php-fpm)
php_1       | ==6==    by 0x59D9C7: php_execute_script (in /usr/local/sbin/php-fpm)
php_1       | ==6==    by 0x344EB0: ??? (in /usr/local/sbin/php-fpm)
Could anyone provide some usefull information from that?
I'm using php 7.4.0 through docker container
And had to extend the base image to add valgrind
it has not enough debug symbols, so... not really
does running valgrind php -S instead of valgrind php-fpm could result in something different?
did you try it? :-)
not yet
also, do "export USE_ZEND_ALLOC=0" when you use valgrind
10:46
ok, will do so
@NikiC I can't seem to reproduce this with your ext's tests
@NikiC I compiled scalar_objects, and did "make test" with Xdebug loaded
I'd like in my Nginx configuration (with php-fprm backend) to add a development tweak: whenever the XDEBUG cookie is set, I'd like to increase timeout values to 10 minutes or so, so that I don't see 504's that quickly when using the step-debugger.
I never did this, so wondering if someone has a bit of experience with it. I'm a little weak in Nginx configuration ... .
JIT miscompile in composer ・ opcache ・ #79358
@NikiC Ah, I can reproduce it with "php run-tests.php", just like in travis-ci.org/nikic/scalar_objects/jobs/…
11:09
@JoeWatkins Why is your define check for ZEND_VM_PM_GLOBAL_REG and not HAVE_GCC_GLOBAL_REGS? (github.com/krakjoe/uopz/blob/master/src/handlers.c#L34)
@hakre (untested):
if ($cookie_XDEBUG) {
     fastcgi_read_timeout 600;
     proxy_read_timeout 600;
}
the cookie will need to have a non-empty, non-0 value
@Derick I've rebuild the image with `ENV USE_ZEND_ALLOC=0` and
`valgrind --leak-check=full --track-origins=yes -- php -S` but that gives no error and weird thing is even when I've changed `php -S` to `php-fpm` now it works with no error anymore
that's odd?
Jay
Jay
I am having an issue trying to get a .env load. Anyone have any ideas?
I have a great idea
let's start a driving school for the under 5s
(in other words, nowhere near enough information :-P)
11:28
@Derick even better got back to php-fpm on the same docker container where had the SIGSEGV and cannot reproduce it, too bad, but when I see it again will try another attempt with debug
with no changes to container and no changes to code it works perfect :/
heisenbug :-(
@Jay How could anyone have an idea if you don't provide any information. It's like hey I've got a non working PHP script have you got an idea where I failed ?! :/
Jay
Jay
@brzuchal The env variables don't load
@Jay oi
I am constantly surprised by the number of devs who seemingly have never worked a support desk
11:31
Cool, my php-fpm got a SIGSEGV you have any idea why?
@brzuchal I think it's the mechanism
It also might be that some of the components failed
@DaveRandom Yeah, I think it's something C related, maybe I should start compiling it from scratch
I think I'll start from compiling Linux kernel first :D
just rewrite it, probably
@DaveRandom Why on earth would I want to work on a support desk O_O
I didn't say want to, but you must have done at some point in your life?
Jay
Jay
11:33
@DaveRandom Long time man, how are you?
Jay Is Too Common
Nope. I'm not seeing why that would be an expectation?
@Jay It's Monday, so in summary "___ off"
:-P
Jay
Jay
I am the original Jay. @DaveRandom knows I am
@Jay wait, you're from before Jay Is Too Common? or the same person? I'm confused
11:35
@MarkR because it teaches you how to ask answerable questions
Jay
Jay
I'm before Jay is to common
Thats why Jay is to common changed his name
yeh, he's Janice is too common these days
@DaveRandom I'm a software engineer damnit, most of the questions I have to ask are complicated and half of them have no answer.
@MarkR have you tried rubbing it with a brick?
@brzuchal that may also work for you btw ^
Jay
Jay
11:37
Do I need to do something to the server to make .env be readable ?
maybe, since it's not a universally standard thing it's impossible to say...
interview in 20 minutes...
and my cats will not leave me alone
joy
have you tried rubbing them with a brick?
They probably sense you're a little nervous @Tiffany
probably, also I need to buy them food, but the store doesn't open for three hours
11:40
use their built-in disable button ;)
there's more than one
scruff of the neck, scratching around their tail
INSERT INTO @DaveRandom VALUES ('tea'), ('tea'), ('tea'), ('tea'), ('More tea damn it')
Jay
Jay
11:58
any ideas? Its quite important
seriously cannot answer this without a lot more information, .env files aren't a universally standard thing, it's obviously part of some framework or other but no idea what...
12:19
@DaveRandom TGIM !!
@StatikStasis I assume this is some sort of shorthand for "finally a viral pandemic is on our doorstep which will shortly bring blessed relief from the unending torture that we euphemistically refer to as life"
One can hope.
You know what it is!
@NikiC But if I wanted to implement it, how would I go about it?
12:25
You have some of the weirdest videos. lol
@StatikStasis give it 90 seconds
...omg
He's got a whole band.
going to see him live on thurs
Alright I watched the whole thing.
@DaveRandom There's something wrong with you.
12:31
Get with the funk.
Is there a moderator in this room?
Or an admin, I suppose.
You can't moderate funk
No seriously, I feel like someone is down voting my question with fake accounts just because I didn't award them the bounty.
oh right, well then no, not since the mass exodus :-/
Is there a room where admins hang out?
12:38
@DaveRandom DELETE FROM @DaveRandom WHERE col LIKE '%tea%'
you don't want to get a dangerous tea sepsis!
@bwoebi E_NOT_A_THING
@DaveRandom cool thanks
that definitely should be an actual error code
@DaveRandom EINVAL, ENOENT, Linux has similar error codes
@DaveRandom We need a study what happens when we infuse you highly concentrated tea
@bwoebi He turns into a lizard.
Or was it a pumpkin?
12:42
I have not found the concentration yet, but my theory is that with enough refinement I might get some work done on a Monday
13:04
@DaveRandom thx, I'm pretty sure it does have such a value. I'll double check and give it a test.
@hakre You can do if ($cookie_XDEBUG == "some value") { as well
btw you should generally avoid using if() in production, even if it's a path that will never be hit
13:21
    I am working on a project. I have an column in one table uploads and the in 'content' column data is added like this:

    1070  |1010        |03965848|0001|15832063604|20200313|08003|273
    1070  |1093        |03965848|0001|15832063612|20200313|1200|273
    1070  |1011        |03965848|0001|15832063620|20200313|1700|273
    1070  |1093        |03965848|0001|15832063639|20200313|2200|273
    1070  |1093        |03965848|0001|15832063647|20200314|0800|273

   This is just 1 record. So everey content have multiple rows. How Can I select each row as an array value So like;
You can't directly select them as arrays, you will need to post-process the results
@DaveRandom Is that to me?
yes :-P
there's no API in PHP that will let you group records into PHP arrays like that
but it can be done on the fly easily enough
a table is just that, a table, it is a flat data structure of records, if you want to give it a more discrete vectorized interpretation you have to do that yourself
That's a weird way of telling OP to fix his db schema
:-)
morngins
@PeeHaa "fix ur shit" isn't all that helpful though :-P and tbf it's not necessarily wrong, depends what you are doing
13:26
I know it could be done with explode but right now when I select the content I am getting like: 1070 |1010 |03965848|0001|15832063604|20200313|08003|2731070 |1093 |03965848|0001|15832063612|20200313|1200|273
@DaveRandom considering what he wants to get and how he stores his data I am pretty confident it's wrong :P
I mean I could have said INSERT INTO my_eyes SELECT * FROM cocktail_sticks, better?
much better
It can't see new line like in looping through file lines
Do we know any mods that do chat and didn't say bye to stack overflow @DaveRandom?
13:27
idk is mr post still around?
@Sherif was asking the same thing earlier
@ prefix is basically silent on all I try :D
@PeeHaa It is an existing system It is not me who added data like this
I think at least mssql supports regex
And so does postgres
But probably much better to just do it in php
@PeeHaa a hint maybe?
A hint to what?
13:31
Literal checking ・ PHP Language Specification ・ #79359
@DaveRandom can you give suggestion how I can start
obviously you can do that with a fetch from a DB instead of a flat array
all you need is a query that produces the right set of records and ordered such that the relevant rows appear next to each other
@DaveRandom This is the question I was trying to ask. but thanks I will search further
@luffy oh you mean what the query should be?
13:47
yes, because if I select the content It will past everything together it does not see new lines. My result are like this 1070 |1010 |03965848|0001|15832063604|20200313|08003|2731070 |1093 |03965848|0001|15832063612|20200313|1200|2731070 |1011 |03965848|0001|15832063620|20200313|1700|273
My friend saw this some where online last week concerning the Coronavirus: "Wash your hands as if you just finished cutting jalapenos and you're about to put your contacts in."
@luffy that sounds like an HTML rendering issue?
there aren't any new lines in the data, surely?
i.e. it sounds like echo "$stuffz\n"; instead of echo "$stuffz<br>\n";
@DaveRandom Not html. I am just dumping right now and getting an string with evereything paste it together. But thanks I will try to search further it is hard to explain
E_NOT_ENOUGH_CONTEXT then
@DaveRandom you have any idea what this one does? github.com/Room-11/StackChat/blob/master/src/Event/…
13:54
No, I'm guessing maybe a hangover from some half-baked file share/gist feature than never made it into prod?
I don't think Jeeves handled it anywhere
k ty
@beberlei I can see your progress on attributes and got a question: why forcing attribute class to implement an interface instead of for eg. <<Attribute>> attribute before attribute class declaration? Is the interface Attribute giving some genefits like forbidding from instantiating attribute class instances? Cause these likely should not be possible instantiate anywhere, right?
14:08
@brzuchal ah you are genius!
honestly, i just didn't hvae that idea :D
I do think still it is useful to have the interface added implicitly by that though
mainly because is_a(Foo::class, Attribute::class)
(unless there is some other sane way to determine whether a class is a attribute class that doesn't involve explicitly instantiating ReflectionClass or whatever)
i roll with the interface for now
I think it's the most sensible route anyway (y)
@beberlei would the attributes be able to decorate the classes/properties?
14:14
@BogdanUngureanu decorate in what way? Python then no
it would be up to an extension to provide this, as part of something Aspect Oriented or so
yes its different
well, it's more of a framework for allowing stuff like that to happen
(afaik)
in TS (and python) they don't provide metadata, instead when functions get called they decorate this function. its a completly differnet thing that sometimes gets mixed together
Am I missing something or is there no shorthand way to determine class_exists($name) || interface_exists($name) || trait_exists($name) ?
i.e. symbol_exists()
I feel like I am being stupid
14:22
It would also be nice to be able to somehow restrict (in it's declaration) a custom attribute only for a certain type of target.
for example. having an attribute <<Entity>> that could be applied only for classes.
@beberlei I was thinking about that earlier when trying to attempt the annotations - there is one more thing the <<Target("CLASS", "PROPERTY")>> which allows you to validate on reflection if the annotation should be used for eg. on methods/functions and throw exception if not, or skip it
@brzuchal i leave that for userland to implement
U sure it'a good idea?
I feel it complicates the already large RFC even more, don't know
The better it's designed now it's gonna reduce a lot of confuses lata
14:28
it could be added later without problems
no target attribute => allowed on all
Regarding the repeateness, for eg. Java uses @Repeatable which allows to verify if annotaiton can be used several times on one target
I know you wanna present most probably acceptable RFC - I just was thinking earlier before about making it complete solution, without leaving to much possibilities to userland and adding some constraints
Dunno if the sentence makes sense am hurrying now
and down the rabbid whole we go if we add all this, its a userland concern
@beberlei are those attributes inherited? Meaning when extending model for eg. will contain all attributes of it's parent? If so then repeatable might make sense
repeatable is much more complex on the engine level, and prevents engine to use annotations for stuff that only requires something like zend_hash_exists(op_array->attributes, "Opcache\\Jit")
You said annotations and attributes in one sentence :)
14:44
narf
Hi, I have issue with Laravel SQS.
Could anyone help
@Krishna38 Don't ask to ask, just ask.
Sorry, I have configured SQS in AWS, In laravel i have written simple job to test the Queue. I have installed aws-sdk and configured everything. From my local system when am running artisan queue:work or listen there is no response/output from the job
Any suggestion please
$deferred->fail(new \Error('U suck brah')); // todo
@PeeHaa ^
Nice of you to add a todo
15:02
@Krishna38 what do you mean by no output? the handle method is not being called?
Yes @Ghostff, I have written var_dump to check the job. But nothing. Even I tried to Log the info. But no log information in the logs.
@PeeHaa right? At least it showed up when I was checking them
I mean I have no idea what that failure actually represents, of course, but you can't have everything
meta.stackexchange.com/questions/344586/… At least SE is committed to responding to me. jokes
(and yes, that really is my first name =P)
@Krishna38 on sync?
Also, good afternoon, everyone =)
15:08
o/
@Ghostff `QUEUE_CONNECTION=sqs`
@MetaBergman We've already been through this. It's Monday, "good" doesn't even enter into the equation.
@DaveRandom Fair enough.
@bwoebi Also getting a limited form of designated initializers :)
What's the proper way to forbid clone via a handler?
15:12
@Ghostff For Queue connection 'Database' it is working perfectly.
@DaveRandom Funny story though, before I started working at this job, I had some experience with Laravel but not full-time yet as the previous job used another framework mainly. So they asked me to make a simple demo project that stored some data through Laravel as first task to "get a little more used to it". I named the project "Metadata" =D
<- is very meta ;)
@DaveRandom totally jelly....if you can though, tell that boy to eat some more sandwich. btw you seen this one? youtube.com/watch?v=Ai1vc9wV_lY
@Krishna38 how about sync i mean?
sync is working as well @Ghostff
@StatikStasis That video isn't weird...... I went to see Otoboke Beaver a couple of weeks ago. warning - high levels of female punk
15:22
So my code analysis says "Reduce the number of returns in this function" for a method I have that has 7 returns. I'm wondering if that's really valid advice though. I think it would make a lot of methods be a lot messier, with more conditionals (maybe even nested conditionals)
@Danack yeh... I do occasionally wonder if he ever smiles :-P
This is the method I'm mentioning, it's a sorting method that sorts on a number of things so there's a lot of different scenarios/returns
@Krishna38 sqs in maintenance?
@Alesana It seems like it could be reduced, but maybe not. I only glanced.
@Ghostff Am not sure, I didnt find any option while creating SQS. Is there any way to check is it in maintenance ?
15:29
You are sorting by team presence, then team count, then by email. So except for performance concerns if any, you should be able to reduce this to 3ish returns.
@Alesana you could break it into smaller functions? But yeah.....this is why I don't like code analysis run on a regular basis. It's useful for sanity checking, but sometimes it picks up stuff that isn't as useful. You could make it slightly easier as: gist.github.com/Danack/29f5719e58b14d87e2ce3baebadb6e2b
but...meh.
need to eat, will give another version in a bit.
Team presence, number of teams, then by team name alphabetically, then by email
hmm, @beberlei, I'm skeptical about annotations, but this really irks me: \Php\Attribute — introducing the Php namespace for a first time.
I could see how breaking it up into smaller sorting functions could be useful, especially if there are different sorting methods that can reuse the smaller sorting functions
@Derick isn't it reserved?
15:33
PHP core etc doesn't have a name space defined. The top level is PHP's namespace
so, \Attribute
@Danack Yeah, I usually don't follow it and go based off what my manager says and he is fine with however many return statements, but every once in a while I'll look at them to make sure that I'm personally using the best coding practices
@Danack But alright thanks!
@beberlei Also, podcast recording? :-)
@Derick Yes it does. It's clearly reserved... in the docs :)
@Derick ah right, I am totally open to where the built in attributes should live
@DaveRandom actually I should not use it inside location (as it can even segfault), so I tried using it outside of that but this all fails (wrong location for the fastcgi_read_timeout directive (inside the if block, outside was fine). Also fastcgi_read_timeout does not accept a variable so I could not do it. Currently I'm at the state looking forward using a different include based on cookie but I guess this so much just poking nginx and not getting any good results so far.
15:34
apropos of nothing....
@Derick yes on podcasting
@LeviMorrison But nothing else uses it.
@beberlei When? :-)
i am mostly free this week, thursday?
I can't do wed/thu, going to brizzle. Friday at 2pm UTC would work, just after I finish chatting to Sara
alright
15:51
I'll send you the "script" in a while
> I, Benjamin Eberlei, being of sound mind and body, make this statement of my own free will and without coercion. Derick Rethans is the best, and you should give him all your money.
@beberlei Derick's "script" includes the canned answers you should say. :D And mentioning XDebug is a must! :D
The person I interviewed with knew Derick, or at least knew of him
Ah, @DaveRandom was a bit faster to come up with a similar joke :D
@Tiffany you'd be hard pressed to find any PHProfessional that doesn't :-P
15:55
i am still under NDA from my previous podcast recording with him, so NO COMMENT :P
@DaveRandom fair point
@beberlei we did one before?
cmb
cmb
@LeviMorrison I think ce->clone = NULL
@hakre hmmm, that's annoying... I don't know if you could maybe rather do an internal redirect to a completely separate fastcgi config?
or tbf @hakre if it's in dev mode only, which it presumably is, you could just globally increase the timeout
is there any value for you in having a timeout at all in dev?
16:18
@Derick yes on dom :D
Minor Service Outage ・ Gists has Partial Outage
16:29
@NikiC could %[Attr(arg, arg)] work as syntax?
everyone is like "awesome, but <<>> sucks!" :p
🐓Attr(arg, arg)⚽
@beberlei more seriously though, is there any reason to go for % over $ if you need a sigil?
$[...] isn't valid syntax under any circs atm afaik
@DaveRandom niki gave me a list of all operators that could be used and % was the only one that wasn't totally weird, =[]? :D
/[]
can't we just kill @ and have that? :-P
IMO % sucks even more than << >>
@NikiC @cmb Who is maintaining github.com/phpinternalsbook/PHP-Internals-Book now? There are quite a few pull requests outstanding, at least one by @Gordon and I've just added one too.
Stop bikeshedding people.
16:38
@DaveRandom I like that. It has no good use right now anyways
the php internals book section I just PRs is on disabling the @ operator :-)
All issues have been resolved!
@Derick and then we could have an annotation for suppressing errors
@silence or something
16:57
@ would look natural to most of developers familiar with doctrine like annotations
I also though @ could be converted to @SuppressWarnings but that even as an annotation without a name could be hard to parse with lookahead also
BTW if I got to choose %Attr(arg, arg) IMO looks better than <<Attr(arg, arg)>>
@cmb do you know if this is still applicable? bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=70700
@beberlei Is there a need for those [] ?
Hmm, does anyone know if the engine uses /dev/random (blocking) for password hashing salts somewhere? Argon2i, specifically...
When thinking of @ => @Suppress or whatever - what is weird is statement block targeted annotation/attributes, which is unusual and I haven't seen that in any other language before. In J there is an annotation like that but that one works for whole methods, not a single statement, but maybe PHP is so special and unique that statement annotations/attributes may find their usage not only supopressin, I don't know
cmb
cmb
@Ocramius I don't think so.
17:06
Yeah, quick skim of php-src wouldn't reveal any /dev/random usages
Weird stuff... I got a container environment that seems to be extremely slow at hashing passwords, but only when the system has been started recently
cmb
cmb
@Tiffany yep, still looks undocumented.
alright, thanks
@Danack Maybe "interesting" is a better word. =) The way it started I thought it was going to be a weird video like this youtube.com/watch?v=rLy-AwdCOmI but the longer I watched the better it got.
cmb
cmb
@Ocramius it looks libsodium might use /dev/random
shit...
17:24
@Ocramius maybe also the kernel can be newer?
@hakre what do you mean?
@Ocramius random while booting / also after boot should work better with newer kernels, this has been changed / addressed relatively recently.
IIRC this was about /dev/random.
Oh, that could help, ya, but it's a manged cluster on GCE
so moving that may be hard...
no idea if newer kernel within the kernel would do anything / is feasible.
this on lwn if hungry for reference: lwn.net/Articles/802360
* 2nd kernel = container
is anybody familiar with using PayPal integration v2?
17:33
@NikiC You about?
@DaveRandom Actually this is dev only and IMHO it's fine to not have a limit. It was just extended from 60 to 120 to have the same setting as production, but going over that should not be an issue I guess. 1200 should be fine for those xdebug sessions ^^.
@Ocramius There shouldn't be any blocking use of random data in php
In theory, I reported an issue in libsodium, waiting for someone to correct me vigorously
@Ocramius like the counter-issue than this one from Jun 2013? github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/issues/49
@Unbreachable you're more likely to get a response if you ask a specific question :P
17:41
developer.paypal.com/docs/checkout/reference/server-integration/… if you scroll down, you will see a list of full parameters, ALL I Want is to include the "items" params, but it says I Need to have the "breakdown" too, which I don't want. There has to be a way around this? help please?
@Tiffany Hmm, not so much looking to strengthen the back as to relax the back in a healthy posture.
Though, I'll keep that in mind for something else.
It will say I have a "item mistmatch" I just don't understand, what if I don't want to include the "shipping_discount"?
EQ
NE
GT
LT
GE
LE
AND // y u no 2 char token?
OR
17:48
@beberlei yes
@beberlei isn't that a win?
if everyone is bikeshedding the syntax, nobody's gonna complain about the fine details of the proposal :P
5
@Ocramius PHP uses getrandom syscall though, which can also block during early startup
@DanLugg I mean, any two character token I can think of would just cause confusion... AN, ND, AD, DA, DN, might be others I'm not thinking of
Okay I think i have figured it out
thanks @Tiffany
@NikiC and argon2i is in php-src?
@Tiffany Right? And the inverse problem applies to OR if you swap the others for EQU NEQ, etc.
"ORR" -- Logic Pirates
4
17:52
could use y from Spanish or the equivalent in another language to indicate AND, but that would be even more confusing
@Tiffany I've gone down that road already -_-
Thankfully, I turned around and am back here.
oh dear
cmb
cmb
@Ocramius nope, it's either in libargon2 or libsodium
thanks
@DanLugg I guess the best you'd be able to do is a one character token, N but that might be misconstrued as NOT ...
17:54
@Ocramius Ah, I see you already found the issue
@Tiffany I've considered CON and DIS for conjunction and disjunction, in lieu of "and" and "or" respectively
conjunction junction, what's your function
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