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9:01 PM
@NikiC Yeah. If we could give the libraries options, that would be ideal but I'm not sure it's possible at all, and then possible within the timeframe we need it.
Can we have an minit-only, function handler replacing technique that can simultaneously be used with something that can work per-request, and not cause significant overhead if it's not used?
 
as i said, i would be totally fine without per-request/runtime change, we can always look at that again later
 
9:15 PM
curl_errno() is always 0 if there was an error while used with curl_multi() ・ cURL related ・ #79318
 
I believe that is the best thing I have ever seen in #11
hats off to @Ekin
ping @Trowski (optimistically :-P)
 
@DaveRandom he called her poopface and refused to acknowledge thin mints, the best Girl Scout cookie ever
 
is there an existing thing in amp streams that will base64 encode/decode? obv I can roll my own without too much difficulty but that's a wheel I cba reinventing if I don't need to
@Tiffany I know not of these "thin mints" but yeh that sounds 100% like the @PeeHaa we all know and ____
insert your own last word
I must say I'm not a big mint person in general, but at the same time I have been known to eat a whole box of after eights in one sitting
 
9:31 PM
Thin mints are amazing, but I've noticed they tend to be more favorable among women than men, anecdotal evidence anyway
They're "proper" "British biscuits"
As in, they're thin, probably double-baked and crunchy
 
I think girl scouts are a thing we don't have in the UK, at least not in that form, there's "girl guides" but I think that's a bit different, and there's now (quite rightly) girls in what used to be the "boy scouts", but I don't think either of them are particularly given to selling cookies
maybe I've just been too wrapped up in myself to notice though, very real possibility
 
Young girls going door-to-door in certain cities would probably lead to a political scandal anyway
But yeah the whole selling cookies thing doesn't exist in the UK
 
schools do it sometimes
but not door to door afaik
coffee mornings, that's the british way. Get a bunch of people with not much in common to sit in a compact space in uncomfortable silence for an hour, they happily pay to leave, great fund raising approach
 
Now that's the British way.
 
you guys are weird
 
9:38 PM
No. U.
 
bonus points if you can find a solitary loud (read: socially normal) american to really make people feel like they would rather be attending their own funeral than this
 
with a southern accent
 
oh and maybe an eastern european with total disregard for personal space
 
Texan redneck with a cowboy hat
 
those are both stereotypes but also occur with a statistically significant frequency
 
9:40 PM
!!man ls
 
@Tiffany no it's usually someone from Boston or NY
 
I guess that doesn't work in here?
I killed him :(
 
25 mins ago, by AsyncBot
curl_errno() is always 0 if there was an error while used with curl_multi() ・ cURL related ・ #79318
 
he was in the user list before I said !!man ls, and now he's not
 
not totally dead, but possibly a busted coroutine in there somewhere
is for me
 
9:42 PM
I'm calling shenanigans
 
I'm calling @PeeHaa
In fact I really am calling him, I'm going to whatsapp him a complaint for shits and gigs
 
lol
 
I actually suspect he has changed his number since the last time I messaged him :-(
One lonely little grey tick, no friends, no colour. Poor little thing, doomed to represent failure for all eternity.
 
FFI::cast() from void* to intptr_t crashes PHP ・ ffi ・ #79319
 
10:00 PM
@Tiffany ^
he's alive, just some part of it isn't, maybe the command processor is bust or something
most likely is a missing yield somewhere so an error just disappears into a black hole and something doesn't get restarted, Jeeves was full of those in the early days
 
10:32 PM
@cmb What do you think the best way is to make the double to string cast locale-insensitive? I'm currently having a look at __zval_get_string_func but making a change there would make all use-cases locale-insensitive... (I'd like this though)
hmm, or maybe another parameter could be added to it that would affect locale sensitivity?
 
cmb
@MátéKocsis I would prefer any double -> string conversion to be locale-independent, so yeah, __zval_get_string_func and _convert_to_string (and maybe more) would have to be changed.
Nikita had the nice idea to trigger a deprecation warning when the locale-independent and the locale-dependent result would differ.
Still, that would take a lot of energy (the discussion, not the technical solution) :(
 
10:47 PM
@cmb I had? I don't think deprecation makes sense for this
@MátéKocsis Changing it in zval_get_string_func seems reasonable to me
You want all use cases to be locale insensitive
 
cmb
@NikiC sorry, that wasn't you. And for me it's not about actual deprecation, but rather to be able to have some notice/warning about that happening (to ease migration).
 
I'm not sure having a deprecation phase is necessary
It's mostly a cosmetic change on the end user side
 
@NikiC yeah! :)
@cmb I can imagine.. Although I still have technical problems now :'D But surely, it was very exhaustive to even read your email thread...
 
11:07 PM
> The word cryptex is a neologism coined by the author Dan Brown for his 2003 novel The Da Vinci Code, denoting a portable vault used to hide secret messages.
:)
cipherette
 
@MátéKocsis are you planning on doing an RFC for that? Was planning to write it this WE but if you're already working on it :D
 
@Girgias I am happy to give you the possibility ^^ I just want to make sure we have it in 8.0 :D That's why I brought up the topic. So I don't insist on doing this myself at all.
 
cmb
@hakre that guy even has a php.net account: people.php.net/danbrown :)
 
@MátéKocsis I'd rather have it in 8.0 too :D but I've got some other things I want/need to write
So one less makes it easier for me :p
 
@Girgias @MátéKocsis you both are on fire :-)
 
11:14 PM
@cmb so much fame, I guess this is then a pretty good hit.
 
@beberlei I'm mostly doing housekeeping at this point :p
 
@beberlei I knew that we don't have many janitors in the house... So I decided to be one! :D
 
what is the process of getting things merged on doc-en? just wait?
 
cmb
@beberlei you should have commit karma, so unless that PR is controversial, just commit it. :)
^ commit via SVN
 
hah, i failed to checkout svn last time. was hoping the github repo has a way ;)
 
11:38 PM
would anyone else care for a bugsweb extension that allows subscribing to new bugs via email by component (or all)?
i feel dumb, there is probably a mailinglist for bugs?
 
11:59 PM
Anyone else love drunk programming?
 
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