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19:00
MemcachedDB or just Memcached and "triggers" or something completly different
And almost no reads. The entire MySQL cluster is a 3 machine setup. 2 in active Master-Slave with auto-promote on the slave. the third was a simple slave for backup
so when the cache dies you loose some seconds?
Memcached, and gearman for logging the cache writes
@edorian Yes, about 1/2 second on average of uncommitted data...
seems fine
I've grown quite acustom to having something like gearman
That's what we said. The alternative was needing something on the order of 24 or 36 mysql servers to handle the write and read load
so the tradeoff was huge
(hence why we went that route)
19:01
and further scaling costly
Right. This way, they had 9 frontend PHP servers, each running a 60gb memcache slice. We could loose any 2 frontend servers and the cache system would still be active...
and having 24 mysql servers isn't pretty
sometimes i'm sad that i can't make our site scale like that
Now, of course there was warm-spare redundancy, but we tested for 150 million hits/day and never maxed out those 12 servers. The warm-spares are there just in case and are spin-upable in less than 30 seconds...
but 80% write load, some real time data and a really old codebase just doesn't fit into the "cache everything" paradigm
warm-spares means servers with populated caches ?
@edorian This was a very special case, and we had 10 developers and 3 sysadmins working full time on it for about 2 months
19:07
yeah.. it's the sysadmins we're lacking
@edorian Well, partially populated caches. They had the source code and servers up, but weren't joined to anything. So they were not receiving live updates. If the need for them arose, a script would promote them into the active cluster, they would prime their caches and then start sending them traffic
A single good sysadmin is worth their weight in gold
Yes. Thats not the problem
the problem is that they weigh quite a lot
I guess if we would fine someone that is really good the money would be there
Hire me :-D
19:10
I'd love to
lol, even with how much time I spend in here?
a good sysadmin doesn't do any work
after a few weeks :P
The problem would be that you would be makeing more money than the CEO and that you'd need to relocate
while $1 is solveable $2 doesn't seem to be an option
because you weigh to much for the gold thingi
But thats kind of a good question there... would i tolerate another dev spending as much time on SO and i did... or as you do
I guess so .. given the works gets done (well)
ha
@edorian Yes, yes I do
does not follow i rambled to much
you do what
Man, I would take my weight in gold every year. Hell, I'd even relocate for that amount of money
Read the line I replied to
5 mins ago, by edorian
because you weigh to much for the gold thingi
19:17
ah, yeah
moveing the mouse.. forgot i could do that
By my math, somewhere around 1.5 million GBP per year...:-D
that seems fair
i'd relocate too for that... maybe put on some weight
nice
Nah, would need to gain too much weight: The weight of 485.30075 pounds of gold is worth: $10,000,000.00
19:25
round numbers, good idea
thinking about a project where i could use your crypto lib
i just want to play around with it some more, it's about time i get my head into some crypto stuff (like better hashing) anyways
fair enough
Actually, that means you're the perfect person to write end-user docs :-P
19:30
that fact that i have pretty much no clue ?
Well, the fact that you're not close to it
those that know it well are often the worst documentation writers
yeah
'Ok, done for the day. cya :)
gnight
 
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20:58
wow, nobody else active
i'm too busy wrangling git
hehehe
Tek
Tek
Man, I want to learn how to use git :(
or Subversion
The UI/platform compatibility of Mercurial with the internal model and community of Git would be amazing.
user492203
Someone head over the MySQL room, please!
user492203
21:08

MySQL and relational databases

Ask your question, and then hang around a while to see if an e...
21:30
Git's really nice. I'm learning it quite well. I gotta say, there's a lot about it that's freaking awesome
Tek
Tek
Oh?
I've used little of it, it's just really difficult to use at the moment.
Since I know next to nothing about it
It's a shallow learning curve though
Tek
Tek
But I do like the comparison of changes and the like.
at least for the basics
It is really nice, but I'm having a hard time using it without a Git to English phrasebook. Mercurial's commands are more intuitive atm.
Tek
Tek
21:37
Granted, I used it for 10 minutes lol.
I prefer command line anyway, so I like gits commands, basically identical to svn's except for the meaning for a few of them...
I accidentally made a git repo within a git repo. Now the inner one is a submodule, and I can't figure out how to merge the two. :p
commit doesn't commit to the remote repo, push does (it pushes the current working copy to the remote repo)
lol
is really happy about how the CryptLib project is coming along
@Tek gitref.org is pretty much amazing.
21:58
Now, to start writing some tests
user492203
night :)

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