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Wes
Wes
00:46
github ded?
ah no
left a comment with the usage :B
thanks
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Wes
More than 20 Brazilian universities were invaded by the military police in the past 2 days. They confiscated material on the history of fascism, interrupted classes due to 'ideological content', removed anti-fascist banners and posters claiming that it was electoral propaganda. https://twitter.com/folha/status/1055670109644210176
brazil sounds pretty fucked up too
Don't trust twitter, specially on right/left wing propaganda.
Half of the people who spread lies are government sponsored bots
Wes
Wes
02:12
i don't follow bots
02:51
i'm not saying you do
john is nice
 
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Please help me on this
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53050187/load-data-from-csv-and-ignore-duplicate-record-based-on-multiple-column-match-my
Morngins
posted on October 30, 2018

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07:37
@rtheunissen intense? It's ambient. If you want intense try youtube.com/watch?v=ZY7ELJ0oeaA :)
I find it easy to listen to funeral doom. It's slow and heavy and feels like sound fabric to me. It's a bit melancholic though.
But if it's too intense, try youtube.com/watch?v=5Bm9F3GFnik… no distorted guitars, no vocals.
08:00
hocus-pocus unnecessarily mysterious or elaborate activity or talk to cover up a deception, magnify a simple purpose, etc.
@Jeeves this whole programming thing we do here is hocus-pocus
so don't teach us what we're already somewhat not bad at
@bwoebi the stuff you do is diablerie‌​, not hocus pocus ;-)
@Gordon ahahahah
PeeHaa has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
08:42
o/
Oh I did complete hacktoberfest, thought it had to be merged PRs
08:58
PeeHaa has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
Sorry for wall
posted on January 27, 2018 by amphp

- Resolution methods are now hidden in the `Promise` returned from `Deferred::promise()`. Their exposure was an implementation detail and never promised by the return type of `Deferred::promise()`. - A named class is now used for promises, so you don't end up with an anonymous class in `var_dump()` and stack traces, which can be confusing.

Well that was an anti climax
Did someone say... tiny wall?
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Feedr is up-and-running again (some bugs are to be expected). Started from scratch so all admins of the room regulars feed and repositories need to be added again. Ping me your github name so I can add you to the admin list again to add your repositories to the feed
heh
09:06
posted on October 30, 2018 by PeeHaa

Initial release of the feedr rewrite.

09:29
@PeeHaa What did you fuck up?
@bwoebi Just was due for a smarter rewrite
@PeeHaa well, that's not an excuse to not just back up all admins and repos?
neh that is just laziness
Adding them is just as easy as getting them out of the other database :)
@MadaraUchiha not sure why having wall is such a bad idea, especially with "honduras caravan" on the move
@tereško For start, it's unmaintainable.
09:40
are you sure?
your country has a wall
Yes, we've tried.
It's not very effective.
not against rockets, no
Not against illegal immigrants either
well, it worked in Hungary
Second, the majority of illegal immigrants get to the united states through the normal channels, not on foot through the border
Third, all you're going to do by building a 20 foot wall is create an excellent market for 21 foot ladders.
09:42
same reason why you chain your bicycle or add CSRF protection
@tereško I chain my bicycle is that it's a fairly effective, cheap solution.
Wes
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mornings
CSRF protection is because it's an extremely effective, trivial solution, to a serious problem.
Wes
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@JayIsTooCommon matt le blanc looks such a douche in the new top gear teaser
Building a wall using billions and billions of tons of concrete, man hours, and dollars, is neither trivial, nor do I predict it to be effective.
Static defences only work well against non-determined adversaries.
I don't think it would even significantly up the costs for cartels and smugglers to conduct their business.
09:45
@MadaraUchiha I think you are thinking about the cartoon version: msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/…
@tereško Of course when you have one section of the wall, people won't try to scale it but go around it...
They'll try to find the place of least resistance, the place least guarded, least maintained, most broken, and cross there
so, not your argument is: "but it's not finished"
@tereško No, my argument is that even when finished, it won't be effective against determined, desperate people, whose other option is either poverty or violence.
They'll find the spot where there are no guards, no cameras, sensors malfunction, and cross there, usually with the "help" of gangs and cartels
Also, remember, that that is still the minority.
The majority come in through the airport, not the border.
@MadaraUchiha not that I'd be on a similar page than you, but hasn't this whole wall thing worked reasonably well for you guys?
you will have to provide links for both of these claims, @MadaraUchiha
09:49
@GNi33 Not really. Also, there's a vast difference in scale.
I butchered the first part of that sentence btw
@MadaraUchiha lets put it this way: do you want your country to take down the wall and stop preventing illegal immigration?
I'll rephrase.
No, I don't want the wall taken down. That's a lot of tax money that's going to be wasted just to get rid of legacy.
I see ... well, I am not a globalist
No, I also don't want Israel to stop trying to prevent illegal immigration
Israel (as any country) has the right to set who is allowed to enter its borders and stay.
09:53
aha
so
However, I would argue that the wall was neither the best, nor cheapest solution available to the problem.
why are you against USA trying to do the same?
Someone more cynical than I would claim that the wall was an excuse to arrange jobs for some of the higher brass' buddies.
why can't it be both?
@tereško It can, but I'm the one paying for it.
And since I'm the one paying for it, I would hope that all the options would be considered, including the ones that do not arrange jobs for some of the higher brass' buddies.
It's a tough problem, don't get me wrong
09:56
yes, it is a tough problem
but it is better to try to do something, then just sitting on ones ass
Another thing to note is that the wall in Israel wasn't built to keep immigrants out.
even if a project fails, you can come up with a better solution, while you are at it
It was built to funnel people through the security checks, so that terrorists won't have an easy time.
And the wall is actively guarded by the army, under orders to open fire on people who disregard the warnings and continue climbing.
AFK for 30min: need to get to office
10:27
@MadaraUchiha by the looks of it, the "greatest wall" is a double-fence with cameras
so the guarding will probably be quite centralized
morns
10:47
where do i get a sticker of php logo?
@mega6382 just order them online?
@Naruto yeah, but from where online
try aliexpress? xD
Hi guys i have one doubt . it is possible? Get All Users account details with password of Google Apps Account Using PHP Client Library
11:04
Ah picross is good fun
@RaguvaranR Even google most likely doesn't know their passwords...
Is any alter method is there to get google credentials using gsuite admin id @PeeHaa
The chance of you obtaining google passwords from any legit method is zero
I wouldn't say 0, i would instead say its 0.000000000001
11:14
Im using saml for my app . there i dont want to use any new credentials.. is any possible is there to use google login
But in this document the google tell it is possible to get password.developers.google.com/admin-sdk/directory/v1/reference/users/…
Correction. Picross is fun when the app doesn't start forcing you to make random guesses
Anyone have experience in saml integration in google using php
@RaguvaranR Where does it say that?
@PeeHaa In that request response they are send password also .. we can rights to change that password also . read here stackoverflow.com/questions/25530184/…
11:30
@RaguvaranR Again, where does it say you can retrieve passwords?
i didnot see retrieve password .. my doubt is is update is possible then why retrieve is not
No you read it
Because it's one-way, you should never be able to retrieve a password.
Instead of keep telling me what to do take a second to read what I am telling you and asking of you
@RaguvaranR Because, the passwords are stored in encrypted form, google unlike you does not stores password in plain text
11:46
moings
Hola jameston
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jayo
o/ o\ o/
12:05
\o
I thought he deleted his account? now I'm a small little bit confused :-D
@bwoebi Jay just took a break to go attend police academy
Does that mean he can make cool sound effects now with his mouth?
@Tiffany I know, but I thought he completely deleted the account
12:13
o/
12:27
@bwoebi no, he only nuked his chats
@mega6382 oh. okay.
CryptGenRandom function used by random_int() and random_bytes() is deprecated – #77084
it's a good feeling knowing that I can still make a simple nav bar with HTML/CSS
... and then someone tells you to make it "adaptive"
12:42
@tereško nah, this is just for my own testing
making a proof of concept
13:17
Yeah, the machine learning one is quite ironic
Well- time to get some work done. bbiab
fucking IE
@Tiffany Aren't you making things for captive clients?
13:32
@MadaraUchiha we still have Windows 7/IE 11 on some machines. I'm trying to write some JS as a warmup... though JS is vastly different than PHP
querySelector requires having . or # in front of an element, at some point I'll remember this...
@Tiffany Just say "look, I can do it for IE11 too, but it would take twice the time and effort, are we willing to take that cost?"
@Tiffany It doesn't require those in front of elements.
document.querySelector('div') is perfectly valid.
Also, that's the DOM API, effectively a library, not JavaScript.
An API which historically was written to look like Java.
@MadaraUchiha I was trying to select a class though
@Tiffany A class is not an element though :)
You're a programmer, speak clearly
@MadaraUchiha the audience that this will be used for probably will have IE 11 though, but I don't have metrics yet to prove that.
13:37
@MadaraUchiha words are hard
@MadaraUchiha I wonder what is the correlation between being a programmer and being able to speak clearly.
Question: On an IF statement, will it still continue checking even if one of the values has returned true? IE

if ($foo || $bar || $baz) {}

If $bar is true, will it still check $baz?
@MadaraUchiha Yeah, actually adding those in front of elements will make it invalid, cause it'll either try to find an id(#) or a class(.)
@mega6382 If you don't code clearly, you're a pretty poor programmer.
but we are talking about "speaking clearly" no "coding clearly"
though I get your point
13:44
I have a couple mental disabilities, sometimes I have trouble speaking/typing clearly if I don't give myself enough time to align my thoughts.
sorry, rude... shouldn't be mean when I'm being corrected
and especially to those with the power :P
13:57
@Tiffany Heh, it's ok :D
2 days of just meetings. Accepts Loss of Will to Live
@Tiffany The reason I like communicating over written mediums is that it allows me the time to think before I type.
I'll admit to not always making full use of this fact 😃
@Allenph I'll buy you the shirt that says "I survived another meeting that should have been an email"
Was looking for some books, found an amazing price on a set of hardcovers, but those SOBs only ship to US
@MadaraUchiha I'll be sure to go drink coffee in that at the Wednesday meeting in front of my boss.
14:09
@MadaraUchiha most of the time, I do think things through. But there are times when I'm trying to get a message out quick enough to further elaborate something I had stated, and I'll throw words in that I think mean the thing I want, but don't. Another example
Fair enough
I managed to write a function that makes a nav bar sticky when scrolling for IE 11, but when I added a debounce function that I typed from a site, navbar doesn't stick anymore when scrolling. I think I'm just going to leave what I have and work on it tonight.
@Allenph first Tuesday in a while that I don't have a morning meeting, and I'm soaking it up
Writing your own sticky logic ... definitely a library for that
I suppose I should do that
part of it was to learn how to do it myself, but in the grand scheme, I'd rather just get it done
More satisfying writing you're own, but if you get a decent well-maintained library, it'll have thought of things and scenarios that you haven't and probably support more browser versions.
Definitely worth looking at how the library does it though, so that you can learn how
14:15
just noticed it's made by dollar shave club, lol
@JayIsTooCommon Aren't you supposed to be off learning how to steal drugs from people?
@Allenph ah hello my cop hating friend. It's my day off :)
Am I being detained?
you watch too much news :>
Nah. I'm just being annoying.
14:27
You!? Never!
Better to be annoying than to be a thug. :)
#SayNoToDrugs
Probably moot, but anyone hitting up devops days in Edinburgh this week?
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14:43
@Allenph I work on some parts of projects when I am in those meetings (determining needed methods, attributes, etc.)
@mega6382 hex
I'm redditing.
@JayIsTooCommon What I have deducted from watching Live PD is that if a car has a headlight out- then they probably have drugs in the car.
@Tiffany yep =)
@StatikStasis 6c696b6520746861742065766572206675636b696e672068617070656e7320692e652e20636c6965‌​6e7473206172652064756d62
@mega6382 LOL!
true
14:46
nerds.
3
@Tiffany thanks :)
@mega6382 I noticed it was mostly numbers, and an occasional [a-f]
@StatikStasis hahahahah
Me and my son have began driving down the road and saying "There's a drug dealer." Wife asks "why?" -"Headlight out."
15:15
@PeeHaa zvax
Ever have those days where you cannot remember the simplest things? Was AND one ampersand or two...?
there are other types of days?
@PeeHaa here, you mean something like the $documentRoot in static server's readme, but with a specific file only, instead of a "folder" fallback?
15:30
@FélixGagnon-Grenier =D
@PeeHaa or @DaveRandom how do I turn on the cleverbot part of Jeeves in a room? (not this room)
His heart was injured during the attack but his life not in danger. That's great to hear the resiliency of the heart. Check mate vampire hunters?
ah- Russians. Sentence: No vodka for 1 week.
15:47
@pmmaga yep, you were definitely right, it's totally written in the fine manual I totally did not read phpinternalsbook.com/php7/build_system/building_php.html
@FélixGagnon-Grenier So that's where I got it from :)
16:17
is there a difference between recordElement and fieldElement?
recordElement refers to a row... fieldElement refers to a cell...
hmmmmmm
very macros
it confuses the hell outta me
@StatikStasis Seems reasonable…
@Trowski My colleague said he understood and felt it was justified. =D
Also, stop looking at Fox News.
16:30
@Trowski Where else is he going to get memes from?
@Allenph Well, ok, I suppose there are good reasons.
Well, and that everywhere else is FAKE NEWS. Purses Lips
@Allenph when i was a kid we had to get them from railway sidings. used to have to spend hours sifting through the porn to find the good ones. it's nice that the internet has retained that property, keeps it feeling authentic
Why were you sifting through the porn? o.O
to find the dank memes
obviously
16:37
Memes > Porn
Tea > Meme Fetish Porn > Memes > Porn
s/Tea/Coffee
evenin
@Trowski Watch it, I'm english. Don't make us come whoop you canucks like we did in naam.
@DaveRandom how do you get those from railway sidings?
@DaveRandom I thought @Trowski was 'murican
16:40
I feel like you people are all taking me literally here
I'm trying to figure out what kind of object a railway siding is...
this doesn't seem right
a shunting yard?
ah
fuck it, lunchtime
@DaveRandom You keep your fancy tea or we'll have to push it into the harbor again.
honestly, any movement that chooses Sarah Palin as a figurehead doesn't really worry me
16:44
@Tiffany Yep. Canadians have flappy heads anyway.
@DaveRandom I haven't actually heard much about them lately… I think that movement died out.
I honestly didn't even think about them when I made that comment.
wasn't it a precursor to the trumpsters?
@DaveRandom Rather got the impression it faded away due to the overwhelmingness of the trumpsters
it's not really my area of expertise, it's kind of hard to follow and it's all just different sides of the same retarded coin
yea
@DaveRandom Basically what @bwoebi said.
16:55
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Added
\o/
> authorize PeeHaa
well, that sounded dreadful
@FélixGagnon-Grenier yes basically nginx' try_files / apache fallbackresource
@FélixGagnon-Grenier :P
@Tiffany plugin enable terminator iirc
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I just couldn't click that button.
I promise I will only share your data with the finest advertising people. Not just anybody
16:58
oh. long as you don't publish strange fetish pr0n repos to my public github profile
we should be cool
I don't have write access to anything afaik
Although github's oauth permissions are kinda fucky
I think I can only see some profile info
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Wes
17:15
Ohh their HQ is in my city
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"debate" ... on twitter?
lol yeah
... clion makes some really strange formatting of the default extension .c skeleton...
 PHP_FUNCTION(dumpidou)
        {

                zval*zv_ptr;
                if (zend_parse_parameters(ZEND_NUM_ARGS(), "z", &zv_ptr) == FAILURE) {
                return;
        }
                switch (Z_TYPE_P(zv_ptr)) {
        case IS_NULL:php_printf("NULL: null\n");
                break;
        default:php_printf("watsup");
        }
        }
are the macros throwing it off?
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17:37
y u no indent it :B
heh :P I haven't manually indented code in like, 4 years
Wes
Wes
y u no use editors also for C? :B
phpstorm works good enough at editing C files
yeah, maybe I'll switch :) I would have assumed jetbrains would have a better understanding of c code in clion than in phpstorm..
Wes
Wes
did you create all the skeleton of the extension?
17:41
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I had a bad time trying to do anything PHP related in clion due to the lack of autotools support
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Wes
@FélixGagnon-Grenier i am not saying phpstorm can understand c at all
but you can indent code lol
@pmmaga ok. would you have a recommendation then? What do you use generally?
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I get dirty looks around here when I say it, but here we go: vscode :P
:P
@Wes er I ran the command mentioned in the skeleton readme if memory serves
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Wes
is autotools a transformers member?
too nerdy a joke?
17:45
haha, reminded me of the pokemon vs machine learning game
@pmmaga big data
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:B
big data! yes
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@FélixGagnon-Grenier you can find a very simple c extension here github.com/Netmosfera/PHPIntegerMath just copypasta it
@pmmaga I use VS Code for general purpose stuff. Hmmm, I wonder how Visual Studio Community Edition does?
17:47
@Wes nice
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Wes
it's just one function :B
@Tiffany VSCE is more geared towards their own stack (and apparently node)
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