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1:04 AM
@wes It can be useful to find the code programmed in the remote control.
1. Hold down the SETUP button (18) until the red indicator (12)
stay on. Release the SETUP key.
2. Select the type of device to be controlled: TV1, VCR, DVD, SAT,
directly pressing the key (2) or: TV2, CD, CAB, AUX, pressing
first on the MODE key (13), then on the key (2)
 
1:27 AM
mornin
 
1:58 AM
posted on July 30, 2018

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
 
2 hours later…
3:51 AM
2 days ago, by Madara Uchiha
@Tiffany Normal peoples' toilets aren't halfway full with water, and flushing doesn't violently suck the whole thing down to oblivion.
 
Night
@MadaraUchiha Safe travels back home.
 
Thanks! Flight is tomorrow
 
4:07 AM
Hola.
Still no job. Going to have to settle for Larahell.
 
4:22 AM
Wondering if anyone has two seconds to check out my question? I haven't had any luck yet, thanks. stackoverflow.com/questions/51605279/…
 
 
2 hours later…
6:24 AM
morns
 
J.S
6:51 AM
I have a client who is asking me to build a system which will be used for at least eight years. At first, I didn't realize what a challenge this will be. Frameworks, libraries, SDKs, and OS at best have two years maintenance and one additional year security fix. What worries me most is that fact that, most frameworks themselves rely on many packages, over time many of these will become unmaintained as well.
Maybe some of you with experience maintains old code bases can point me in the right direction. I am willing to do minor upgrades every one or two years, but it should not turn into a huge endeavor.
I am planning to use Ubuntu, Nginx, PHP 7.2, Laravel, bootstrap, jquery.
 
@J.S seems like, you've already made p your mind.
 
J.S
@mega6382 not really, I use that stack usually. Now I am considering dropping frameworks altogether.
 
@J.S OK. Anyway, I don't have any opinion on the frontend. Ubuntu, Nginx, PHP 7.2 all these seem fine. The thing I will recommend you to change is Laravel. Look for other options, or just go frameworkless.
 
J.S
@mega6382 I agree
 
Eight years from now, _everything_ will be horribly outdated.
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS will EoL on April 2023.
PHP 7.2 will reach EoL on 30 Nov 2020.
Laravel might not even exist in eight years. Or whatever version it is then will likely look very different. Dunno about jquery and bootstrap. But your frontend will likely look crap in eight years because of technical progress in that field. The user experience will likely suck, too. And you likely accumulated some technical debt that is biting you on every change.
 
7:07 AM
@Gordon Yeah, but there are still sites around that are from 2000 or even earlier maybe. :P
 
I am maintaining a legacy app from 2006 in production
and I can tell you: if you dont intend to make continous updates and go with the time, the pain will get worse and worse
 
So, yeah, in a way the site will survive for 8 years, but regular updates should be performed. "I am willing to do minor upgrades every one or two years" is not a good idea.
 
yes, because the updates wont be minor if you only do them every one or two years
in my experience, small clients with medium applications vastly underestimate the effort to maintain an app.
they think, once written, it can run indefinitely. they dont have a concept of software rot
 
J.S
Yes, true.
This system is a web interface for industrial equipment. As long as it displays data and accepts some inputs correctly, UI should's matter much.
But considering your points, I feel even that will be hard.
It might be best to explain the challenges and get the terms updated to include updates every 6 months.
 
Software rot, also known as code rot, bit rot, software erosion, software decay or software entropy is either a slow deterioration of software performance over time or its diminishing responsiveness that will eventually lead to software becoming faulty, unusable, or otherwise called "legacy" and in need of upgrade. This is not a physical phenomenon: the software does not actually decay, but rather suffers from a lack of being responsive and updated with respect to the changing environment in which it resides. The Jargon File, a compendium of hacker lore, defines "bit rot" as a jocular explanation...
dont get me wrong though: you can run a legacy tech without ever updating it
you can stay on the same server version, the same framework, same db, etc. and it will run indefinitely
but eventually, a serious vulnerability will be discovered somewhere in that stack and then you have to decide how to react
for my legacy client, this was heartbleed
and there was no backports for the fixes for their debian
 
J.S
7:19 AM
Oh How did you end up fixing it? Major rewrite?
 
we upgraded the server.
 
J.S
I assume that would be mean upgrading PHP version and dependencies too
 
yes, the server update also brought a new php package
so then you had the choice of going with that new package or build the old package again
new package required updating the framework in use
the framework in use was so old that I had to use the wayback machine to find a migration path on the web
but since it made sense to at least go to php 5.3 we did that
needless to say, this app doesnt have unit tests, so it was kinda tedious to make sure the app still works afterwards
 
J.S
Wow, that sounds like a lot of work and head scratching
 
it wasn't too difficult. but it sure was tedious and doing this one change here, required another there and so on.
 
J.S
7:29 AM
Yes, of course. I feel your pain. Sorry about the lousy translation, pondering not "head scratching"
 
the app is still in a very crappy state nowadays, but modernizing it would require much more effort than the client can afford to pay
which is why I suggested to shut it down. but of course, clients don't like to hear that.
 
J.S
7:51 AM
Yes, I have been there myself, although difficult, sometimes shutting down and moving on is the best option.
 
hagridden worried or tormented, as by a witch.
Datetime->sub calculates incorrectly on dates late in a month – #76686
 
8:41 AM
@J.S I would suggest using Slim as a the framework but only on the basis that it doesn't do very much, which means that the code you write will be very separate from it, so easy to maintain. Which means that either you could upgrade the 'framework' without changing anything else, or if the version you're using is no longer receiving updates, it's not a problem as you don't need those updates.
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@Jeeves inb4 not a bug......... I am too slow.
 
9:07 AM
Morning
@Allenph :( sorry to hear
@Danack would you recommend using Slim in converting what will be a static php site to OOP?
 
yo @Tiff
@Danack Also, expressive is like that too.
Zend Expressive
 
9:28 AM
@Tiffany maybe? Might still be overkill. Would probably be better than most other frameworks.
 
user9139688
How is it possible to run a function at every 12:00 AM.

as JavaScript run only if page is open in browser, i tried to it with JavaScript, but could not achieve.



I want to update content of page with function,



such as tomorrow is new year night, and i will be busy tomorrow.and i want to display visitors of my site to a happy new year page. Even if they are browsing my site, or if not browsing, just execute function in back.
 
@WaqarHussain cron jobs, google it. Or if it is that specific to just run on new year's eve, then just write the code to check for the current date. There are many ways to do this, google it.
 
@Danack lolol
 
user9139688
@mega6382 i used new year as example, but i want to execute code every night 12:00 Am
 
@WaqarHussain like i said, "cron jobs", google it.
 
user9139688
9:35 AM
@mega6382 i found something but not could not really understand how to use this, if you can share some working example it will be good
 
anyone that know well about phpmailer script
???
 
user9139688
@Jincowboy what is the issue
 
i run this script of contact form to email
could i show you my code?
 
user9139688
yes
 
is not working.
 
user9139688
9:38 AM
@Jincowboy have you checked this github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer/wiki/Tutorial
 
@WaqarHussain, thanks for your help
Could you fix bug in my code?
I run for 7days for this
But yet not fixed
 
user9139688
what err you are getting ?
 
not received mail
 
user9139688
check spam for this
 
I checked spam folder, but not
did you check my code?
 
9:46 AM
Thanks for the password :)
 
@Jincowboy you need to change your password for this service.
 
yeah, got it. so do you check my code?
what is bug in my code?
 
!!debug
!!debugger
 
i have no idea.
Could you help me?
 
9:49 AM
apart from the heavy suggestion to use a debugger, no.
 
good mourning
 
\o
 
Somebody probably changed your password, since you foolishly pasted it in here
 
meh
how am I supposed to report a chat message to mods so that they delete it
while avoiding having every >10k user on SO also see the given message
 
@FlorianMargaine I believe that flag for moderator is not sent to the >10k users.
only report as spam/offensive is sent to the >10k users
 
10:02 AM
ah, gotcha
 
Don't miss 50% discount on PhpStorm and all other JetBrains IDEs including All Products Pack! Only 30 hours left! #JetBrainsFriends https://www.jetbrains.com/promo/friends/
3
Personal licenses not commercial ones, but still amazing value.
 
Nice play JetBrains. I bought PHPStorm few weeks ago. -/-
 
Ds\Pair documentation is missing $key and $value properties – #76687
 
10:52 AM
I got my original PHPStorm license during the Doomsday sale. 75% off in case the world ends, aw yea
 
@Danack could I get a 100% off :P
 
Wes
11:07 AM
@Danack i updated phpstorm saturday - 2 days later they released 2018.2 which i cannot install - and now this
 
@Wes why can't you install it?
 
Wes
because i bought 2018.1
ah no, i can install
 
@mega6382 How come you advise against Laravel?
 
@Leigh me too :D
I could upgrade to all products pack for 60 dollars...
 
I don't understand. Does it mean every upgrade cost you -75%?
 
11:16 AM
no
 
Wes
but i could buy clion
 
it was for a one year license, but the license renewal fee was cheaper than if I subscribed as a new customer
though, I think back then you could buy the license and own the software, just not update it after the year, they changed that a couple years after
 
@Tiffany Yeah, I don't like that, I love perpetual licenses. Just pay once and forget about it.
 
That's right. You are eligible to use software of version that you have license. And upgrading period is valid until license is.
 
12:04 PM
Is it possible to abstract a PDO prepared statement enough to the point that it could replace usage of mysql_query?
 
Buenos Dias, Muchachos!
What's going on... where is everyone?
Is it a holiday in Europe?
 
Wes
como estas tortilla taco chimichanga ayayayay
 
That was weird- no one's messages were loading until I refreshed.
 
Wes
happens sometime
 
I've had that happen, and I've also had my message appear twice, then the duplicate message disappears a second later
 
12:10 PM
Yeah- it had my message from last night saying goodnight- then said 15 hours... and had your question about PDO abstraction and then my stuff I just typed. Very odd.
 
@StatikStasis do you have moments where like... something is underneath your eye and it's so frigging annoying and you can't get anything done until it's gone
 
Like... under my eye lid?
 
or an itch on the sole of your foot while wearing shoes and driving
 
Yeah- if it's the top lid. That sucks.
Never had that one.
Wait yes I have.
That's annoying too.
 
one of those little irritating quirks of ADHD
 
12:12 PM
Is it?
 
like if I have an itch or something that's irritating my skin, I can't concentrate on anything else until whatever it is that's bothering me is taken care of
itchy shirt tags
 
Do you ever drive at a speed so that the beat on the radio will match you passing some inanimate object outside like dashed lines or power poles?
 
user9139688
how can i use pusher , any tutorial?
 
@StatikStasis that is because you didn't refresh after the last time you were active, happened to me once.
 
I think that may be my OCD which my doctor said I developed to manage my ADHD before I started taking medicine.
 
user9139688
12:14 PM
pusher with php
 
I have not, but I usually drive above the speed limit :S ... I started setting cruise control in town
 
@Tiffany You like to live dangerously. =D
=p
 
@mega6382 I'll try that but I think it's just ADHD.
 
lol
 
12:16 PM
@pmmaga SOooooooooo satisfying.
 
@WaqarHussain like this? github.com/pusher/pusher-http-php
 
user9139688
@Tiffany have you ever coded php chat ?
 
narp
I know that Amphp has a tutorial for one on their site, and I'll probably go through it at some point in the distant future
 
user9139688
can i find any tutorial for php private chat like facebook
 
Limitless = Movie about ADHD medicine.
 
12:21 PM
@WaqarHussain google it
 
@StatikStasis The spinoff show was so amazing, I don't know why they cancelled it.
 
@Tiffany Today's t-shirt is relevant to your links
 
user9139688
@mega6382 i know about google, but can you recommend any good one , i am not able to find any good one
 
@mega6382 I never did watch it. I don't give a lot of spinoffs from movies hope.
@WaqarHussain google.com/…
 
12:26 PM
@WaqarHussain I think @Tiffany was replying to you.
> I know that Amphp has a tutorial for one on their site, and I'll probably go through it at some point in the distant future
 
@Leigh lol, nice
 
Free conference T, but one of my favourites because it's long, the fabric is nice, and it dries quickly
 
@StatikStasis lol :D
 
@Tiffany with regards to this, I have a method in a class called query that uses mysql_query, and I wanted to try abstracting a PDO prepared statement to replace it, but I'm not sure if that's possible, and if I'd be better off just refactoring the methods that use the query method, to use prepared statements themselves.
granted, easyDB abstracts prepared statements, so I know it's possible
 
12:41 PM
@StatikStasis You might also find this satisfying then: twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1023635971680755712
 
only barely relevant but I'm still going to post it:
user image
5
 
1:10 PM
@Leigh Simply beautiful...
 
1:40 PM
> public function printToPDF($filename, $landscape = false, $displayHeaderFooter = false, $printBackground = false, $scale = 1, $paperWidth = 8.5, $paperHeight = 11, $marginTop = 1, $marginBottom = 1, $marginLeft = 1, $marginRight = 1, $pageRanges = '', $ignoreInvalidPageRanges = false, $headerTemplate = '', $footerTemplate = '')
 
Wes
bet you just want to set footerTemplate, right? :B
 
that's where python's named arguments look cool
printToPdf(filename, footerTemplate="bar") and bim
 
Hey guys
 
@Wes actually just the margins.
@FlorianMargaine Andrea was contemplating working on that at one point...
 
Quick question: Does anyone know if theres an app or something that users could download on their iPhones that would allow be to set up push notifications without having an actual app on the App Store? Almost like a middle man:
My Server API Request → [Company] → [App I am Looking For] → iPhone User → Push Notification
 
@Danack Hmm. Thanks. Good option.
Also is there a newer version of RSS or is that it?
 
2:13 PM
@Danack I went buying All Pack and it turned out that JB calculated 84/89 I already payed 20 days ago. So I have got All Pack for 40. Thanks again for link. :)
 
2:33 PM
@Tiffany I don't think you'll be able to do that without having 2 database connections.
It might be easier to change your query() function to use mysqli_query() instead.
 
!!dad
 
What are clouds made of? Linux Servers, mostly.
 
I don't want to use mysqli :S
I'm looking at how EasyDB does it, and it's possible I might be able to recreate, but I may be better off just refactoring the individual methods to use prepared statements.
also tempted to just switch to using EasyDB instead of PDO but I dunno
 
Why don't you want to use mysqli ?
 
because PDO is better
 
2:38 PM
@Tiffany Better how?
 
PDO isn't restricted to one database, granted we probably won't be switching databases in the time that I'm refactoring this code and switching to the new platform. PDO is an object class, mysqli is function based
 
You can use mysqli either way.
 
@Tiffany but if you have complex queries, you will have to change those too, if you change your db. So, in that case, it wouldn't make much of a difference, if you are already using a library that supports multiple kinds of dbms.
 
I'm parroting a lot of what I've heard from this chat, so as far as me explaining exactly why PDO is better, I probably couldn't give you a good enough reason. But I've been told several times that I would be better off refactoring my code base to use PDO and skipping mysqli completely.
and I thought mysqli would require a wrapper anyway
I've also had a better experience with PDO in general, than mysqli, but that's just personal experience
 
I remember writing an article on this, comparing mysqli with pdo.
Anyway, here is a quote from that article
> While PDO may be slightly slower and not take full advantage of MySQL server features, it may be simpler to write less database dependent code while having more readable code using named parameters for prepared queries. So either option may be good depending on what you value.
 
2:49 PM
Mysqli is a bit more verbose. I would use PDO if I was starting a new project, but I'm not that fussed about converting stuff that already works fine.
As long as you're using something that lets you do prepared statements...
 
My main beef with mysqli is having to pass the connection variable every time a mysqli function is used. As far as I know, if I were to truly switch to mysqli, I'd have to do some background work to make it work correctly with this code base that I really just don't want to do.
Mind you, there are many, many problems with this code base, but my goal right now is to get it working on PHP 7 first, and foremost so that at least I accomplish that. Then I can go back and fix the other problems, assuming we haven't switched to the new platform yet.
 
@Tiffany dont use mysqli_ functions, use the oop version instead.
 
shrug, I'll figure something out with regards to the query method, by either figuring out a way to abstract it correctly, or just converting all of the methods to use prepared statement individually instead of calling another method to do it.
 
@Tiffany There's a mysql shim for PHP 7 that @ircmaxell made.
 
can you post the code of th query method?
 
2:55 PM
be ready for this...
 
doesn't look good
 
nooope
 
@jjok You mean Davey, right?
 
@salathe Yep. Just realised that.
@Tiffany That may be the best solution in the short term.
 
I don't like the idea of that either though :/ but if I can't figure something out within this week, maybe go that route to get me by until I can go back and scrub it all
 
3:00 PM
On the codebase I'm working on, they just defined all the mysql_* functions to map to mysqli_*.
Which seemed to work.
 
how do you go about passing the connection variable though?
or just inject it to each class where necessary?
 
@Tiffany Yep.
 
One of the problems is that the mysql_connect function was originally defined in a config file, and the rest of the code base isn't written to handle dependency injection yet. As far as I can tell, a lot of the code base is wired together with global state and static methods. Which would be a massive rewrite for me, but one that I plan to do after it works on 7.
assuming that I have the time >.<
 
@jjok :P
 
@ircmaxell Sorry :P
 
3:48 PM
Hello folk :]
 
4:00 PM
Could anyone here possibly help me with my question? It hasn't seemed to gain any attention yet, either that or nobody knows a solution.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51605279/php-dic-dice-doesnt-run-constructor-when-class-is-loaded
 
while setting foreign key in phpmyadmin's relation view I don't see the table I want to set the foreign key for.. why does this happen
 
@a5266680 Does exit work correctly in a constructor?
it would seem like throwing an exception would be a better option
 
Sure, I've tried initializing the class normally just creating a new instance of it and it works fine, I think the problem is with Dice.
 
Just tried `throw new Exception($message);` out of curiosity and it doesn't change anything.
 
4:06 PM
however, Class is a reserved word, unless you're using Class as a placeholder in your question
 
yeah that's a place holder, it isn't called class, however I have tried renaming the class multiple times.
 
Going to apologize upfront, a lot of this I'm still learning, so I may not actually be of help. I know that can be frustrating for some people, so if you'd rather me not try, I'll step out.
on another note, have you looked at Auryn?
 
@a5266680 you should post an actual example, rather than a description of the code sscce.org
there's a very good chance you have a stupid error in your actual code which you didn't include in the 'example' version.
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e.g.
Sep 18 '13 at 16:35, by Danack
function __constructor(FileFilter $previousFilter) {
    echo "Why isn't this being called?!";
    $this->previousFilter = $previousFilter;
    $this->srcFile = $previousFilter->getFile();
    $this->destFile = $this->modifyFilename($this->srcFile);
}
2
 
4:38 PM
evenin
 
What's the difference between using ? in a prepared statement instead of bindParam? Are there specific use cases where using ? is preferred over bindParam, or vice versa? Or do they effectively do the same thing, it's just a matter of when the value gets passed when execute occurs?
can't find the right google keywords to find explicit information
Or is like ? only used for SELECT queries? ... not sure if I've seen a query that uses ? that isn't SELECT
 
@Tiffany I much prefer using named params over ?
 
@Leigh that's what I'm thinking, trying to find a practical reason to use ?. I guess the only scenario I can think of is if there isn't a parameter that can be bound, or it's an array? Most examples I've seen that use ? use execute with an array
 
One thing I would recommend against when using bindParam is specifying the type. It's caused us issues in the past (you can tell MySQL for example to treat a value as an integer rather than a string - which will cause it to ignore a string based index)
If you notice the signature for bindParam you'll see the value is actually a reference. So you can update the value of a variable and have that reflected in the next execute();
I personally think of this as hidden magic, and I don't like it.
 
yeah, when I was googling, I kept finding articles on "bindParam vs bindValue" which I guess the difference is bindParam uses references, and bindValue uses the value from the parameter directly? I think
 
4:48 PM
Personally I use ->execute([':key' => $value]); over bindParam
 
why's that?
 
The ? is standard SQL; as already pointed out today you are unlikely to ever switch DB backends, but it's worth pointing out.
 
Well we have emulated prepares for that :)
 
@LeviMorrison I see, thanks
@Leigh :P
 
I never use bindParam; would use bindValue if ever using that API.
I also prefer sending the data with execute.
 
4:51 PM
I feel like I'm at a fork, and I don't think I'll like either choice.
 
I'm funny about excessive function calls. I don't see any benefit to bindValue if you're not using the last (optional) parameter, which I would stay away from
 
If I rewrite class methods to use prepared statements inside themselves, rather than referring to an abstract method in another class, I suppose I know it'll work, but I lose abstraction. If I want to rewrite the query method to act as an abstract prepare statement, I'm thinking I will probably need to rewrite several portions of the code base to not use static methods and/or add another class to facilitate PDO? But that feels like writing a wrapper and I shouldn't do that.
 
I know this is PHP room but I mess with C++ some and thought someone else may find this interesting. theregister.co.uk/2018/06/18/bjarne_stroustrup_c_plus_plus
 
@Tiffany In my repository-type classes I use the PDO object directly. What's wrong with that?
I have to work with several databases (distinct servers), so I have some empty classes like SpecificDatabase extends LazyDatabaseConnection, and set up the DI to instantiate the specific instances correctly. I can type the exact resources I require in the constructor, then $db = $this-whateverDB->connection(); $stmt = $db->prepare - no need for an abstract prepare
 
I wish I had DI...
lol
 
5:01 PM
I realise I edited the shit out of that, but my memory failed me :p
Which is my cue to go home
And see if they have fixed my apartment... since this morning I had water coming through the light fitting in my shower... sigh
 
o_o
 
Apparently, you can't use "beefstew" as a password. It's not stroganoff. 🧐
 
that sounds like a recipe for electrocution
@Danack @Jeeves dad joke material
 
Wes
5:57 PM
why i am allowed to recycle my existing login easily on some sites of the stackexchange network, but i cannot on other sites, like superuser, which requires me to enter the password again?
 
@Wes possibly they use a short-term and a long-term session cookie where only the short-term gives you access to some things. So even though you have the long-term cookie for sites you visit less, they may want you to get a new short-term cookie before being able to access the sensitive stuff
 
Wes
hum
that is strange
 
I am very clever: changing something in ext/mysqli ... running the tests, seeing no failures and pushing
See the mistake?
Yeah, forgot to realize that nearly all tests were skipped...
 
6:14 PM
@pmmaga @Wes Stripe does this. I can access reports, look through transactions, but if I try to issue a refund I have to put my password in again.
I guess it is to protect someone who was logged in to Stripe but inactive for a period of time and leaves their PC unattended someone cannot come up and issue a refund. But it allows you to do the other stuff for convenience sake.
@Danack I think we're trying to star all of your messages.
 
6:48 PM
@StatikStasis I think @Wes' confusion is more because of the lack of consistency in SE sites
 
6:59 PM
ah
15 days until the return of @tereško - yay!
Where has @Allenph been lately?
@Tiffany ?
 
@StatikStasis ?
 
I hate trying to track my heart rate
I'm bad at it
 
@Wes lol
@Tiffany Didn't know if you had seen allenph lately.
 
@StatikStasis seen him pop in a couple times
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Wes
7:13 PM
maybe he's just on vacation
 
I know he's looking for a job
and is considering picking up laravel
:(
 
@Danack the code is exactly the same apart from the class name, and its definitely the Dice framework, as initializing the class normally works fine.
To respond to your previous comment^
I'm not into re posting but earlier there was only one person here, I might have better luck now. Could somebody spare a minute or two to take a look at my question? stackoverflow.com/questions/51605279/…
 
7:35 PM
yay .. the first English question just asked in my q&a website, it's about "don't have VS haven't"
 
I am scared, @Ocramius has a very green contribution box on github. How does someone make 62 commits in a single day?
 
glad to have my own community that I can ask English questions without criticism
 
@Shafizadeh I do not have a west country accent.
@Shafizadeh I have not heard a west country accent before.
 
@StatikStasis I will write an answer for her according to what you said, just I need to explain why ?
@StatikStasis Oh .. I see .. thx
 
Yeah... that's what I am not good at. =D
 
7:38 PM
:D
 
I know how to speaka da English but sometimes cannot explain why something is a certain way. Not a major.
 
Ok, I will attach your comments to my answer as the "why"
Also here is my answer for a guy, who wants to use join instead of subquery. My answer is really professional :-)
 
hi guys
by mistake i ran git add -A
how can i undo its effect?
 
@QasimAli git reset should do it
 
@pmmaga ok great thank you
 
8:02 PM
I'm getting a whiteboard, I'm getting a whiteboard, I'm getting a whiteboard dance
 
@pmmaga really did it
 
 
1 hour later…
Wes
9:07 PM
a whiteboard like a blackboard but white?
 
sort of. you use markers instead of chalk
 
\o
 
Wes
\o
 
snapcraft.io this looks like a nice thing
 
Cookie $options should not allow further arguments – #76688
 
9:21 PM
@Tiffany lol- what kind?
@Wes like a blackboard but magical.
 
Wes
sounds racist
 
Today? Probably is considered that, yes.
 
Wes
:D
 
@Ekin "containerised" that word sounds fake.
containerized <-- that sounds fake too though.
@Wes I'm enlightened though so I don't see color any longer... just boards. Apples I no longer see as red or green, oranges I no longer see as... crap...
 
I once had an sjw explain to me that not seeing in color is more racist than seeing in color
 
9:26 PM
That is the trend now. kids these days.
 
yeah he wasn't a kid though. he was almost 40 at the time
 
He joined the tribe.
 
@StatikStasis it's an extra from one of our satellite campuses, it's like 3'x4' with wood paneling :o
 
So I can make it colorful and pretty.
=)
Pink and neon green really pops on the black glass board.
 
And I spent like the last half hour of work trying to find a new pen, because like most things, I'm super picky about my pen. I had the perfect one and I think a student took it by mistake. I tried nearly 20 other freebie vendor pens and couldn't find one that was the same. :(
 
9:31 PM
The freebie vendor pens are almost always crap.
 
I was going to use the chassis and replace it with different ink
But none of them would fit
 
Which is really a sad thing to do because I end up associating the company printed on the pen with my experience and loathing of the pen.
I use the Paper Mate Gel pens. .7mm I used to not like the gel pens but I love these.
 
And the pen he took by mistake was a freebie vendor pen as well, but it happened to fit the ink I like, aaand it was comfy. It was a perfect match. ;_;
 
I'm almost tempted to email him and ask for it back, and offer like 5 USD for it, lol
 
9:34 PM
Just go to him and say "You stole my pen laugh I'm gonna need that back."
If he laughs and doesn't give it back do like Ross from Friends when someone ate his lunch.
 
But customer service, students are our customers blah blah
Plus they're usually broke, so 5 USD for a random pen is a good deal, right? He could buy a pack or one of those fancy pens.
 
I'd probably just ask for it back but instead of money give him a bunch of the other vendor pens.
Tell him it has sentimental value.
 
Lol, give him like the ten shitty vendor pens I have in my holder
 
stars list is full of danack
@Tiffany 5 usd probably isn't worth moving for
 
@FlorianMargaine Yeah- I noticed that earlier. I thought that was the trend for room 11 for the day or something.
I joined in.
Heading home, all. Later.
 
9:43 PM
@FlorianMargaine might be for a college student
 
 
1 hour later…
10:46 PM
posted on July 31, 2018

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
11:01 PM
> And, please, also consider settype($x, '?int'). I have userland functions in my code for those type of casts.
... oh dear.
 
11:29 PM
@LeviMorrison What is this from?
 

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