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Wes
12:07 AM
@bwoebi should i add that to the rfc? i'm not sure
 
Wes
12:46 AM
youtu.be/Kx5pdq75bo8?t=37 @DaveRandom i never noticed this reference before
 
 
2 hours later…
3:09 AM
omg.. stray javascript putting <a> tags everywhere.. but I can't find it lol
 
 
1 hour later…
4:27 AM
o/
Good evening PHP
 
4:42 AM
@Leigh I see a job on RetailMeNot I kind of qualify for! One of the requirements is Experience with a modern PHP framework (such as Laravel, Symfony, or Zend). I was told not to go the framework route, so instead I went with @Patrick's no-framework tutorial. I think there would be a little bit of a learning curve for me there, but I'm definitely eager to learn new technologies! Do you think I should apply for it anyways, or should I first learn more about modern frameworks?
 
5:36 AM
The following commands just works fine when executed one by one from cmd but it doesn't work with the code?

exec('cd G:;cd abc;scrapy runspider abc/spiders/abc_spider.py', $output);
 
5:56 AM
try shell_exec
that's an incorrect answer, but worth a shot
 
6:41 AM
moin
space internet is unusable at weekends, contention drops speed down to 0.3mbps at times :(
 
Wes
6:55 AM
why did you move in the middle of nowhere joe?
 
Can anyone suggest me a good book for Design Patterns?
Preferrably the one that draws both the good and bad sides of patterns and anti-patterns.
 
@Wes coverage is not good everywhere in Spain, average speed is like 10mbps anywhere, even though there is fiber in inner cities (larger ones) ... everywhere is the middle of nowhere ...
I'd be fine with 10mbps, if it was consistently available ...
it's at nearly 30 this morning, but don't know how long for ...
I noticed over the weekend that someone near me has a very strong wifi network, with FireTV in the name, I'm going to go pester my neighbours and find out what they are using ...
or rather, I'm going to send my wife to do that ... because people ...
 
Wes
7:21 AM
lol
 
7:32 AM
360down 26up here.. wish we had fios which is 100/100 or higher. Upload speeds would be nice..
Damn oligopolies.. they say you can't have two internet providers in one area..
 
I used to have 2x80mbps down, bonded to make ~150mbps down ... this slow internet is actually causing me pain ... nothing more I can do about it though ...
 
morning
 
o/
 
Morning
 
7:39 AM
\o
 
Linus tech tips to the rescue
How often you get that?
 
@Alesana Just read the docs of the framework and you will be fine
I never used symfony before my current job and I picked it up very fast
 
^ Yep, I had a bit of a learning curve with it as of last week, and loving it so far.
The configurations are what threw me off the most, never worked with yaml
 
Awesome I'll go ahead and apply then
I feel very not confident when doing these things haha, I've never worked on a team as a programmer before
 
7:55 AM
symfony is really nice… until/unless you have to work with the authenticator component
 
Actually looking again at the requirements I don't think I have expert knowledge of PHP :/
 
ignore the requirements
 
Is that how it works? :P
 
yes
 
I guess I'll go for it then
 
7:59 AM
you are likely expert enough
 
madeleine something that triggers memories or nostalgia: in allusion to a nostalgic passage in Proust's Remembrance of Things Past.
 
also, when was the last time you have seen a job advert that asked for a php amateuer or beginner or similar? They always ask for experts.
requirements: mediocre knowledge of php
you'll never see that anywhere
 
I suppose you're right. I guess I just get worried that since I have never worked as a developer on a team, if I were to actually get the job they would not be pleased that I have to overcome that learning curve.
Haha at least "Entry Level" or something?
 
Requirement : Expert at PHP, OOP, MVC, linux command line, node, java, c+
Compensation: 15/hr
 
I'm not even joking I saw one that was like that for $11.50
 
8:03 AM
I believe you.
 
entry level would be junior
 
What are your go to ajax libraries? I've been reading up on axios, request, and superagent. Forcing myself to move away from jquery.
 
@Alesana dont worry about that. there will be an interview. that's when you figure out whether it might work with them and vice versa. And there is likely a grace period involved should they hire you.
 
Are grace periods, paid periods?
 
@Gordon With this one I would be relocating, but like you say we would be able to figure it out in the interview
 
8:06 AM
@Darius Yeah, its kind of a probation.
 
I guess I have to start applying to places, then. I am confident in my ability to learn how to program cookie-cutter code on a team, but I have no idea what it is like to program professionally on a team so the whole thing is scary to me.
 
8:19 AM
 
mornin
 
morning
@samayo I was online yesterday, but you wereoffline for 32 min :P
 
o/
 
8:27 AM
\o
 
o/
I am looking for a new mouse, currently I have such ugly MagicMouse thingy from Apple which I would like to throw trough the window... Suggestions? (I don't play games btw) Im searching for a good ergonomic mouse.
 
do you like trackpads ?
 
Never used one. :-)
 
really ? they are on all laptops ?
 
PHP 7.3 is going to be awesome. \o/
 
8:35 AM
I mean an external one. Never used one before. :-) Im also not sure it would be a handy thing to use it with 3 monitors?
 
I usually have two monitors ... I've used the same keyboard for about 5 years, I'm on my fourth one ... logitech k400, I wouldn't use another one at this point ...
some day I'll have to buy a stock of them ...
no wires, only two batteries, and I really like trackpads, it's the only thing about laptops I like ...
 
Haha, must be nice to work with to have that trackpad near your keyboard. (so close)
 
yeah, it's very comfortable, and takes up no room at all on my desk, which leaves more room for ashtrays and pizza ...
 
Haha :-D
 
8:39 AM
@kelunik do you know something I don't ?
 
O/
 
O/
Lol my uptime: 9:41 up 108 days,
 
> The flow of the “lava” in a lava lamp is very unpredictable
is it ? isn't fluid dynamics a thing ?
 
oh I saw them, didn't look in detail yet ... looked at the fiber thing when first suggested ...
I dunno if it's going to get in ...
nothing really to gain if it can be an external extension ...
does the amp package require 7.3 ?
oh it requires fiber
external > internal extension ...
 
8:44 AM
@JoeWatkins Well, either 7.3 or a patched 7.2.
 
you don't really want to tie releases of an extension to the php release cycle if you can help it ... let it live in the wild ...
 
@JoeWatkins Currently it can be external, but that will change for multiple reasons.
 
sysadmins will be much happier to upgrade an extension than all of php, you really don't want it in php-src ...
 
(1) It currently doesn't support internal functions, which have to be changed for it to work I think.
 
so make the changes, make them quick, and I'll merge them just as quick ... make 7.3 ready as it can be, but try to avoid bundling at all costs ...
 
8:46 AM
(2) We want async / await keywords.
 
to gain what ?
 
@JoeWatkins To avoid things like github.com/amphp/byte-stream/blob/…, which should just be async $this->end($message);
 
you can see the difference between those, having wrote a lot of this kind of code for several years now ? it looks like sugar to me ...
 
async([$this, 'end'], $message) works, but that will make all such core horrible.
 
you could have convinced me, by using an argument along the lines of it's going to be faster to switch contexts if these things are built into the vm, possibly saving resources related to the calling of a function or whatever ... but "it should look nicer" is not a good argument at all ...
you would also have to prove there is some actual benefit, not just say the words, I'm not sure if there would be a meaningful benefit ...
 
8:52 AM
@JoeWatkins It's the whole reason why people want short closures, too.
 
saving characters, and sugar, aren't good reasons to reserve words, break bc possibly, and disturb an already very complicated vm ... not a real fan of short closures either ...
 
The actual awesome benefit would be if we moved the event loop into core, make everything a fiber (also PHP's main()) and make all stream functions non-blocking by default without people even noticing.
 
@Duikboot logitech g5… best mouse I ever had. good luck finding one that's not 100 bucks+
 
/me shoots at the balloon @kelunik is flying, he hits the earth with a bump
 
@Gordon I think I have such one @home! I should bring it to my job :P
 
8:54 AM
@JoeWatkins It's obviously not going to happen for 7.3, but it could happen in a future version.
 
@kelunik who is we? I am fine with php being synchronous
 
I'm not sure so about that ...
 
@Gordon @Trowski and me.
 
I'm more positive that it won't happen, in fact ...
 
@Alesana If you think it looks good, apply anyway. I always reckon places asking for "experience in a modern framework like X, Y or Z" are looking for an understanding of general patterns. If they wanted experience with something specific, they'd ask for that specific thing.
 
9:06 AM
@Leigh Good point, I went ahead and applied anyways. Thanks for the tip!
 
9:27 AM
/me wonders what exactly changes here github.com/krakjoe/apcu/pull/279/…
something related to string interning?
!!lxr zend_string_dup
 
[ /Zend/zend_string.h#187 ] static zend_always_inline zend_string *zend_string_dup(zend_string *s, int persistent)
 
$room->greet();
 
\o
 
@Ekin I'd guess something to do with refcounting
 
zend_string_copy does if (!ZSTR_IS_INTERNED(s)) { GC_ADDREF(s); } if it is not interned which is also used there below
dup seems like returns the string if interned else does zend_string_init, that is if I am reading correct
/me gets more coffee
 
9:35 AM
@Ekin This moves the string duplication for the key() call into the critical section. Instead of keeping a pointer to a string that may be invalidated after the critical section is left.
@JoeWatkins btw, is the apcu internal api stable? I.e. does abi have to be preserved? There's some weird stuff like zval** parameters going on in some places, which would be nice to remove.
 
we can break abi, do it ...
and thanks for your time on apcu :)
 
@JoeWatkins can I also do a complete reindent? Right now it looks like half the code uses 4 space indentation and the other half uses tabs ^^
 
do whatever you like, it's all going to be good ...
 
not sure if I get what is this 'critical section'
 
mutual exclusion
 
9:45 AM
ah
okay
 
I seen the following code somewhere and my question is why not just href attribute? What's the benefit of using JS in here?
<a id="cancel" name="cancel" onclick="location.href='#'">cancel</a>
 
@Shafizadeh location is dynamic, the value can change... This is pretty much useless. But, my guess the author wants to have the ability to change the value of (or not) location and still have it work
 
@Shafizadeh none. It's just written by someone clueless
 
Can't remember the last time I saw onclick though... Everyone uses listeners.
 
@tereško ah, also probably there is a reason. Because it's from SO.
 
9:59 AM
nope
there is no reason
it's just someone being stupid
 
:D ..! Again, it's from SO. So probably there is a note we don't aware of
 
or it was a page, that was given to an intern to fix
 
There is no reason to use onclick instead of event listeners, but the reason they don't just use href is so it doesn't appear as a link
 
Is this sentence correct? (English Perspective) "probably there is a note we don't aware of"
 
stop assuming that SO is made of pixie dust and unicorn farts
 
10:01 AM
@Alesana You can use CSS to make it not appear as a link
 
@tereško ok
 
@Shafizadeh most likely reason is that, what you are seeing there is an ugly hack for ASP.NET
 
or it was a part written by an intern/junior
.. or both
 
@Trowski not sure what I'm explaining badly github.com/amphp/mysql/issues/64#issuecomment-364862712 … may you reply?
 
10:03 AM
bleh… soapclient on i386… FML
 
soap client on anything.. fml
 
user7909000
hello everyone
 
I mean I'm happy it's there but jesus
 
Anonymous
@Naruto you should ping me next time you are playing
 
Any monster hunters kicking about in 11?
 
10:12 AM
why, did you see a monster ?
 
:P The only monster I see is my codebase
 
the solution is the same whatever ... just stop looking at it ...
 
@samayo I shall try to remember ^^
 
Reload signal should return error code when PHP-FPM init failed – #75953
 
user7909000
When I am using this code I am unable to read complete incoming string but only beginning 16 characters. $input = socket_read($spawn, 1024) or die("Could not read input\n");
 
10:22 AM
you don't want or die() on socket_read: the script will die when the other side is closed, is there more than 16 chars incoming ?
as the manual states, socket_read uses recv (you'll just have to trust me, it does) in binary mode (and by default), so there must only be 16 bytes to read ...
 
Wes
mondays suck
 
user7909000
the java code responsible for sending the message is buffered_writer.write("abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz");. When I use buffered_writer.write("abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz","utf-8"); I get 16 characters. When I use buffered_writer.write("abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz","utf-16"); I get 7 chars. When I use buffered_writer.write("abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz","utf-32"); I receive only 3 characters.
 
@Wes ):
 
user7909000
Also I am using android platform. In plain java I am able to receive the complete message on the server side but in android no more than 16 characters. Is it because of the php buffer size or because of the encoding or anything else.
 
I don't recognize that method, and neither does the java docs for buffered writer
void	write(char[] cbuf, int off, int len)
Writes a portion of an array of characters.
void	write(int c)
Writes a single character.
void	write(String s, int off, int len)
Writes a portion of a String.
look carefully at compiler output, I think you want to construct a String ...
 
user7909000
10:33 AM
You are correct I posted it wrong here.
 
user7909000
BufferedWriter bw = new BufferedWriter(new OutputStreamWriter(socket.getOutputStream(),"ascii"));
bw.write("abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz");
 
@bwoebi Guess he uses it in a web SAPI and thus doesn't see STDERR.
 
Anonymous
@Naruto Do you play any other online games aside from ow? cc @Sean
 
user7909000
all encodings I wrote above; put em in place of "ascii"
 
Anonymous
I'm hearing a lot of nice things about fortnite, so we might play one together?
 
10:35 AM
is ASCII a proper encoding ?
 
user7909000
yes it is.
 
user7909000
in java
 
is that it's proper name ?
 
user7909000
name of what?
 
I've never seen anyone use "ascii", I've seen variations of it ... it must be exact ... and it must be supported on both platforms ...
suggest you use the Charset ctor
 
10:36 AM
@samayo Monster Hunter, 7 days to die, terraria, minecraft, HotS, still got my FF14 account. I just tend to play what others are playing tbh. Exceptions being arena-style games like pubg
 
(you should get an error if you use the wrong name that way)
 
user7909000
I ain't getting any error.
 
it wouldn't be case sensitive would it ?
 
Anonymous
@Sean monster hunter looks badass
 
Anonymous
10:39 AM
def gonna try that one
 
@samayo I kinda play what my friends play, what I've played recently: cs-go, deceit, league of legends, overwatch, pubg
 
user7909000
Could you please simply and tell what is length here Joe php.net/manual/en/function.socket-read.php
 
still I suggest you use charset contstructor, and string constructors ... if you have utf8 data then ctor utf8 strings, and a utf8 output writer ...
 
@Naruto deceit is fun like
Very hard for the survivors
 
user7909000
I think it is the buffer size. Because The same code in plain Java is working very nicely.
 
10:41 AM
@Sean well it's kinda hard when the 12 year old keeps screaming you are infected when you are not, and everyone just jumps on the wagon from the gecko..
 
maximum length of buffer ... from recv docs:
> The receive calls
normally return any data available, *up to the requested amount*,
rather than waiting for receipt of the full amount requested.
emphasis mine ...
again, it looks like only 16 chars are available, regardless of how you are dealing with them ... that is all that is being sent ...
try flushing on the java side maybe ... but first make sure you are dealing with strings correctly ...
possibly ditch the buffered writer entirely ... you can write directly on the outputstreamwriter ...
unless there is some actual reason to use a buffer ...
 
Surely you could set up a test for the buffer
 
user7909000
Joe, I am able to receive the complete message in when compiling the code in plain java. But When I use it in android framework(i.e an app) then only 16 chars. I thought the problem was either encoding or the buffer. When I send the same code form java client to java server it is works again.
 
user7909000
forgive my english
 
not sure how this relates to PHP ...
you should have said "forgive my java"
 
user7909000
10:52 AM
Is it possible to read a stream in java byte by byte.
 
user7909000
Some thing like
 
Yes it definitely is!
 
user7909000
int i = 0;
while((i=br.read()) != -1){
System.out.print((char)i);
}
 
user7909000
how?
 
well that is working java code isn't it?
 
user7909000
10:54 AM
yep
 

Java

Dedicated to the discussion of the Java programming language a...
try here
 
user7909000
@JoeWatkins are you still here?
 
Don't join that room. Rumors say that I got too much power there :)
 
I thought Android was Java, that goes to show my knowledge on non-web technologies
 
user7909000
Okay how to read a stream byte by byte?
 
user7909000
10:57 AM
in PHP
 
I'm eating pizza and listening to music ... I don't like to repeat myself, and that's all I've got ...
 
@JoeWatkins Uh nice! Enjoy (both) :)
 
that was kinda unexpected for me
 
hi
 
11:02 AM
pizza && revert;
 
@NikiC Will bad things happen if we run the entire event loop inside a __destruct?
 
11:24 AM
Does anyone know much about Cassandra?
 
Pi z2 a
 
11:35 AM
Piz²a :o
 
11:50 AM
@kelunik Uhh, probably
Especially if it's a shutdown dtor
 
I have a VPS (which is in German country physically), also as you know, some websites are filtered (not accessible) from my country. Now I want to know, is it possible to I make a VPN through my VPS ?
 
!!? openvpn
 
Search for "openvpn -site:w3schools.com" (https://www.google.com/search?q=openvpn+-site%3Aw3schools.com&lr=lang_en)
• OpenVPN - Open Source VPN - OpenVPN - The Open Source VPN. (https://openvpn.net/)
• OpenVPN | NordVPN - Sorry, dit bericht is alleen beschikbaar in Engels. Voor het gemak van de kijker, is de inhoud hier… (https://nordvpn.com/nl/tutorials/windows-7/openvpn/)
• 8 reasons to replace your VPN client with OpenVPN… - 6 jan. 2018 - OpenVPN could be the answer. It's an ultra-configurable open source VPN client which… (http://www.techradar.com/news/8-reasons-to-replace-your-vpn-clie
 
actually not very useful results ... here's a setup tutorial for ubuntu which you should be able to adapt if you are not using ubuntu: digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/…
here's another, generic linux (or debian) one: linux.com/learn/install-and-configure-openvpn-server-linux
 
thx
 
12:05 PM
@NikiC So my idea of magically running it is probably a bad one. Wanted to avoid register_shutdown_function and use __destruct instead.
 
@kelunik register_shutdown_function isn't much better
Please just don't do it at all
 
@NikiC I know.
 
Anybody knows about sessions in php and is able to translate Y for me? I want to change the ini default to use strict mode by default.
There is this which mentions:
> 3rd party session save handlers must implement session ID validation handler for session.use_strict_mode=1 to work actually. i.e. 3rd party session save handlers must use PS_FUNCS_SID or PS_FUNCS_UPDATE_TIMESTAMP. PS_FUNCS_UPDATE_TIMESTAMP is strongly recommended.
WTF does that actually mean and is it typical Y bullshit or is it actually a concern?
 
@PeeHaa php-src sessions management is Yakuzo stuff, i.e. do it userland.
 
12:20 PM
@FlorianMargaine What do you think Y means? :P
It has two meanings :D
@FlorianMargaine But more serious. That is not related
If the default ini's are saner I am all for it
And I don't want to go on list with it right away because it will attract a certain person ending in a shitfest
 
12:42 PM
Does anyone know of a tool like phinx (for DB migrations) that works for managing ElasticSearch migrations?
 
12:54 PM
@Fabor ^
 
1:05 PM
morgubru
 
1:21 PM
 
@bwoebi @NikiC If I create a new C stack for ext-fiber, which function should that execute?
zend_execute?
 
@tereško 401
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier a?
 
oh, maybe the image really is supposed to show "image not found"?
 
ah, fuck
 
1:28 PM
there ;)
... oh well. I see Quora is tackling the real issues as always.
 
I thought QUORA is a q&a website, but apparently it is a bot like apple SIRI
 
1:43 PM
@kelunik I'm not sure what you mean
What do you mean by new C stack. A new thread?
 
Yes, a new greenthread.
 
@kelunik But how is the new C stack created?
 
To support Fiber::yield inside internal calls.
 
@kelunik So you want to create a new (non-green) thread per fiber, am I understanding correctly? Just with only one of them ever running?
 
@NikiC No, not non-green. I want to basically do what github.com/brianwatling/libfiber/blob/… does.
 
1:49 PM
@kelunik I see
@kelunik not sure
I'd guess the resume function or whatever there is
 
helpo
anyone here skilled at dealing with licenses
there is a package, which contains a fuckload of license related crap in each class file
I want to change those files
and I want to get rid of the pageful of licence crap in the source code files
what am I supposed to do?
so .. any ideas?
 
@tereško Do a regex replace for LICENSE: to new line?
Quick bash script'll do it
 
There's nothing special I need to do to use the apache-based functions when running through fpm is there?
 
@Jimbo what would that do?
I do not want to re-licence the code
 
> and I want to get rid of the pageful of licence crap in the source code files
 
2:03 PM
It's working in one puppet instance but not another :/
 
Well, it'd get rid of the license crap...
 
@tereško Are you trying to change the license?
 
I just want to move the "licence crap" to some external location outside the actual source
 
Ah, move != get rid of
Still, you could pull it out and write it in a LICENSE file
 
how?
I mean, there is the author list - what do I do with it
 
2:05 PM
@tereško why?
 
It already has a LICENSE file
 
@FlorianMargaine because I dont want the docblocks to contain license
 
again, why?
 
@jjok that's not even BSD license file
@FlorianMargaine because it's shit polluting the code
I need to fork that library and restructure it
 
@tereško You have a junior? Delegate that task to him, and set your IDE to hide them so you can focus on the stuff that provides more value
 
2:11 PM
so, you actually had nothing to advise
 
@tereško You're probably best off not touching it. I've looked into this before and there does not seem to be a definitive answer.
That is, you should preserve the license notice and copyright statement at least, and maybe the author line
 
would it satisfy the license, if I move the list of authors to composer.json ?
 
@tereško I'd say yes, but ianal
The license only requires that you preserve the license text & copyright
(Though that also doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be preserved in each file...)
 
@NikiC What's "ianal"? Some new earplug version from Apple?
 
"I am not a lawyer"
 
2:17 PM
ah
 
I'm now working with imagettftext(). If in my TrueType Font file there are both regular, italic and bold… how can I choose which one to use?
 
ok ... so, should the "Copyright" line in the BSD license look like:
> Copyright (c) 2007, Digg.com, Inc, Joe Stump, Till Klampaeckel, Brian Moon, Mārtiņš Tereško
or
> Copyright (c) 2007, Digg.com, Inc
?
 
I realize this probably isn't possible, but going to ask anyway.
Is it possible to have a web server send a message to the browser if a user tries accessing a website using an outdated secure protocol? (in this case, SSL3)
then again, I guess the message the browser will display should suffice too
 
@Tiffany Sure, your server can read the request headers, and send a response header, or a special response
Then you catch that response with JS and display a scary message.
Alternatively, if your server responds with HTML directly, it can embed the scary message directly in the response body.
 
2:33 PM
4
Q: Redirect browser based on non-negotiable SSL/TLS protocol or cipher

William JozefI’m just one of the many many users of the SSL/TLS protocols on a HTTPS site. For good security reasons I'd like to restrict the TLS negotiation to minimum TLS1.1 with AES ciphers. Reasons are available at SSLLabs and OWASP. But I know that older browsers (IE on WinXP etc.) will have issues in ...

 
Anonymous
@tereško s/earplug/rearplug
 
@MadaraUchiha But the connection will fail?
 
@PeeHaa You could fail the connection, but I don't see a reason that would happen.
 
Because you disabled all the broken stuff
 
It's Nginx's (or Apache's) call to accept or deny the connection.
 
2:34 PM
Like ssl
 
@PeeHaa So you don't disable, and detect the broken version in the server's application layer, then you display a message.
 
Is it halloween yet? :P That sounds scary
 
@Tiffany Not easily. In order to serve the content you'd have to negotiate the insecure proto.
 
Personally, I'd just let the server fail the negotiation, and let the browser display the error.
Screw those people.
 
Yeah anything else is madness imo
 
2:36 PM
If displaying a friendly error is a hard requirement, you can, but you lose security.
 
You could do it with some funky server tweaking
break out your C and get hacking on nginx
 
mad
 
Your site would also then fail all of the SSL tests like Qualys and friends though
 
The server won't be able to send a response because the connection doesn't even reach that point. It's like trying to throw a wadded piece of paper over a fence, but there's a 10' brick wall in between.
correct?
 
Uh
 
2:45 PM
yes
 
It's like putting a square peg in a round hole, but the peg is so small that it does fit in the round hole, it just wiggles around a bit and then falls out
 
lol
 
but that implies that the server is able to say something to the person with that connection
 
I mean if you're loosening your security to allow the server to respond then yes
 
Technically it does... it says GTFO :p
 
2:47 PM
no, I'm not enabling SSL3
I just figure if some old person on a computer from early '00s is trying to view something, sending something other than what the browser says would be more helpful than just letting the browser send it (assuming it's outdated as fuck considering failed connection)
 
@Tiffany Do you actually have clients for which it's a problem?
 
now I'm imagining two people trying to handshake, but one person instead pokes the other person's eyes
@PeeHaa I work at a community college, technically anyone in the community... which has a lot of old people
 
@Tiffany That's a lot closer (if the eye poke is terminating the connection)
 
@Tiffany Did you actually see thhose clients in your analytics?
 
I just happened to notice in the logs that someone tried accessing with ssl3. I'm not sure how frequent it is, didn't get a chance to filter yet. If it's frequent - I'll look into adding something. If it's like once in a blue moon - fuck it, not worth my time.
 
2:51 PM
Hi I don't know how I can search this but I'm very curious to know (at least in a shallow manner) how to work with hours of weekdays in php and mysql. For example in the reservation system of a hotel room. I need to check if one room is available at 14th February at 5 o'clock in the afternoon...
 
I was looking for something else when I saw the failed connection
 
I think it'd be weird if I assign a column for each hour. Then what if someone leaves a room at 10:30?!
 
/me waves
 
@ircmaxell yo, how are you at licences?
I am making a fork of a fork of a fork and I am not entirely sure how to correctly set up the LICENSE.md file
 
2:59 PM
 
3:17 PM
@mega6382 HACK THE PLANET
 
3:39 PM
evening room.
 
3:55 PM
yo @Linus
 
@Wes Hello. I see you proposed another fruitless RFC.
 

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