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15:02
morning
@Wes they both work, but "the item doesn't exist in the cache nor in the storage" is more natural
@Wes avoiding negative makes it easier: "the item doesn't exist in the cache or the storage" or "the item doesn't exist in either the cache or the storage"
@SaitamaSama so last night... I tried doing ./configure --options but it didn't like the --options addition
@Danack I like the latter
by I --options I meant the necessary options you need for the build
like --enable-maintainer-ztz --with-openssl etc
:B
oh
lol
what should I use?
PDO is the only one I can think of
and I guess FPM
generally you should go with some like openssl, pdo, fpm, gmp (?), zlib, jpeg, png, thread safe build etc
I had gist.github.com/SaitamaSama/0f6427f57c2ec921a0401a30a2e294e8 on my recent build, you can probably skip most of the multi-thread-y things
15:09
alright
be sure to put openssl in there tho, other wise composer won't work (I learned that the hard way :B)
alright
thanks
@Wes a bit awkward
I suggest using what @Danack suggested
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15:13
it's not so easy to apply. like
the item doesn't exist in the cache or the storage
i would've written it like this:
the item doesn't exist in the cache nor the storage
is that wrong?
Nor is just kind of archaic.
youtu.be/ccolf06LEr8 (the original seiyuu [voice actress] of Mitsuha. Kimi no Na Wa)
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i still translate literally from italian in my head
@Sean I'm glad we removed that in 0.8.x, will result in less confusion. /cc @Trowski
Wat. Rabbit is saying it's publishing messages to the queue but it's not. :/
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15:17
i need to make myenglishpages.com/site_php_files/… some of these exercises
thanks guys tho
Has StackOverFlow become less helpful since the formation of this chat forum? I have used StackOverFlow over the years and there was a time where it felt like the questions were answered faster than I could press post. Now I asked a question ( stackoverflow.com/questions/48141924/… ) weeks ago and not a peep from the community. Whats going on?
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Wes
*take... or was make correct. goddamnit
take or do
make implies you're making the exercises for other people to do
like a teacher
oshietekuda-sai Wes-sensei
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15:22
thanks :B
is sparkling water common over there, @Wes?
@Jonnie I'm going to guess that not many people use cakephp anymore
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yes @Tiffany
it's finally starting to become more common in the US
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lol, really?
at least in this rural city
we're usually like a year or two behind the hype in large cities
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15:26
i think people here drinks more sparkling water than normal water, at least bottled
@SaitamaSama that's some awkward hyphenation
I use sparkling water as a soda substitute. I don't drink soda, but I will crave fizzy stuff.
はい
by the time I noticed, it was too late :B
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tap water in most places here is high quality, so if one buys bottled water, they do because it's sparkling. and we got a lot naturally occurring sparkling water too
@Wes our tap water is..okay... tastes gross, but I use filtered stuff for it
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15:28
well that before coca cola decided to buy half of the sources
coca cola is a bitch tho
btw @NikiC, I just finished watching myanimelist.net/anime/31798/Kiznaiver 'tis pretty nice
@Wes it tastes nice tho
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buy pepsi
@Tiffany do you know any italian brands of sparkling water? san pellegrino? ever heard of that? :B
possibly, I don't pay much attention to a lot of brands though
I usually either get le croix, store brand flavored sparkling water, or ... I'm not sure what the parent company is for this, klarbrunn flavored sparkling water
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shipping water through the ocean sounds so ridiculous tho. but could be, some brands are valued as wine, they say
@SaitamaSama reviews look questionable ^^
15:31
we have perrier, but I don't drink it
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i doubt there's a big difference with regular brands :B
it seems overpriced to me
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never heard of that
it's a french brand
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doesn't surprise me since we got a lot water here
15:32
oooh, yeah I've seen san pellegrino
haven't tried it
people have different tastes :B, you should give it a try tho (IT'S MADE BY STUDIO TRIGGER!!!111oneone)
I struggle drinking plain sparkling water most of hte time though :X
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it's not the kind of sparkling water i like tho
search "monticchio" on google images
most of water in italy comes from there.... like 10-20 brands, including coca cola
@Wes this is the brand I usually get, not specifically that flavor though
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millelirealmese.it/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/… this is the one i use, has got an eagle on it. would sell well in the U-S-A
15:35
interesting
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it's veeeeeeeeeeery carbonated. it hurts almost :B
I wonder if they make nitrogenated water... like nitro beer
guess it's time to mix U-238 in water
@SaitamaSama you can taste test it first :P
but how would I mark the taste after drinking it? :B
15:39
mask?
do you mean hide the taste or make the taste specifically noticeable?
umm... I said mark tho (not mask)
so you mean make the taste specifically noticeable
@Tiffany I hope this is the reason
15:41
or do you mean describe the taste?
mark as in assign the scores to various parameters after drinking it for the taste
@SaitamaSama why? and why not mixture of plutonium and mercury? :P
sweet: 100/100
bitter: 100/100
lol
@Jonnie most people in the chat don't use a framework, but popularity seems to swing towards symfony and laravel
(laravel is a dirty word in this chat though)
15:43
lol
we need to makes @Jeeves say something for laravel as well, like when we do for w3schools
i think the question would apply to just php
its not cake specific... maybe i should reword it
@SaitamaSama there are some people in here that are forced to use laravel for whatever reason, so might know an answer to something, but most of the time, people will scoff
I dunno, I just feel rude saying "we don't do laravel" ... I'd rather just say it's considered a dirty word
@Jonnie FWIW, I haven't answered questions years ago on SO (I lurked back then without an account), but lately I notice PHP questions to be subpar quality. I don't know how many others have the same sentiment. There are a few people who regularly answer PHP questions though.
@Tiffany mm.. makes sense
and also, I'm not good at PHP, I stick around here because everyone else is more knowledgeable about the language, so I learn from them :P
I'm getting there though
I want to add a command to jeeves
my crazy cat lady personality will be apparent in that PR
@SaitamaSama bcmath?
what's that do?
first page of google gives inconclusive results and I'm lazy right now
nevermind, found it on php manual
15:58
oh alright... was afk for a bit :B
@Tiffany random cat images from teh interwebz?
@SaitamaSama random images from imgur.com/r/cats/top
going to put a time limit on how often it can be used by user though
cause I can see it getting abused :P
nice, tho I'm a dog person myself
make a dog command
like !!doggo
or !!pupper
what a timing :-P
lol, just needs a "thug life" overlay
16:02
@Tiffany before that I need to add tests for my already open PRs (for manga and weather)
:B
yeah you linked that earlier this week, pretty nice JoJo arts :P
I need to read my jojo manga... I've been collecting the hardback reissues
this one's different
oh
I'll give it a watch in a couple of minutes
I have all of phantom blood and battle tendency, and most of stardust crusaders
16:05
:O
here, I'll show a picture... I took one last night for someone else
@SaitamaSama imgur.com/a/u7Wkf
/me looks in awe
teach me senpai
@SaitamaSama imgur.com/a/ANUj7
they're on amazon
I just hope they reissue the entire series
not just part 1-4
mmm... I was thinking of getting some Re:Zero manga from amazon
the hardbacks are really nice though, printing is excellent
16:14
hmm
@Tiffany Cheers!
btw did I tell you to watch Darling in the FranXX? if I haven't doooooo eeet (It's made by trigger as well [all the guys at /a/ are mad about it])
ahahahaha
Anonymous
@SaitamaSama Did you set up your pc?
16:18
it's more or less done... still waiting on my monitor tho
btw I probably can't play OW tonight, I'm down with some nasty cold and cough
Hmm... ya know, the hangover you get from drinking in a Russian sauna is kinda strange
@tereško o_O
It's twitchy with fucked up heat/cold sense
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16:33
i like smart stuff, even strange design, but what the fuck twitter.com/Fisher85M/status/957602428509216768
that's a container with windows.
...where's the bathroom?
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near the window.
or in the backyard :B
If anyone knows how to RabbitMQ, I've gone and asked a question as to why messages sent don't error out but don't go anywhere. ^^;
Keep an eye on this one. A huge amount of the apparent liquidity in Bitcoin has come from promises made by Tether about their reserves. If they were lying it will precipitate a major crash. https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/957381065190133767
/cc @Leigh @Fabor
//predictions about the future are likely to be wrong...
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16:54
17:07
and it's eight years old
night o//
asdl;fkjs;lkdflasdf I don't have public key passphrase like I thought I did
I have to do this shit all over again -_-
...do you have LEDs?
how about php?
18:12
@kelunik I mean context helps, but changing it to "HTTP/2 allows header field values that are not valid in HTTP/1.1." would've been appreciated
@Wes it's all rainbows and blowjobs, until you remember, that php does not have a "good parts" book
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18:39
19:03
hello guys, not sure if I can also ask symfony related questions here, but I'll do it anyway: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48490103/dependency-injection-of-filesystemcache-simplecache-in-symfony-4-0

I am having some issues with dependency-inject by contract an instance, anybody has any idea on how to solve it?
!!lxr zend_long
[ /Zend/zend_long.h#34 ] typedef int64_t zend_long;
@GiamPy have you told it how to create "Psr\SimpleCache\CacheInterface" ?
19:22
    private function xml2array($xmlObject, $out = array ()) {

        foreach ( (array) $xmlObject as $index => $node ) {
            $out[$index] = ( is_object ( $node ) ||  is_array ( $node ) ) ? xml2array ( $node ) : $node;
        }

        return $out;
    }
    protected function readFromXML(string $xml) {

        $file = 'content/'.$xml;
        if (file_exists($file)) {

            $xml = simplexml_load_file($file);

            $xmlOut = $this->xml2array($xml);
            return $xmlOut;
(see full text)
Why on earth is it giving me Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Call to undefined function GreenTea\Core\xml2array() ?
The class is an abstract class GreenTea\Core\View
Oh, got it. I should really read the line number.
I was just about to say that.
In my defense, I have been programming for more than 14 hours now.
I should sleep :P
19:54
@CoderDudeTwodee why do you keep using array() instead of [] ?
@tereško It's a copy pasted code. I didn't write that.
I use [] now.
@Danack yeah, I know how to get them, just amused people still put LEDs in their cases
I guess it makes sense if you go to LAN parties or something
no, it doesn't
< proud owner of Fractal Design case
I have a phanteks case, it does have a window, but I have nothing fancy other than the glowy letters from my video card
I have a Define R5 (with no window)
btw, in Latvia the windowed cases actually are cheaper :D
chuck that up to "northern aesthetics"
19:59
Stupid IE!
mine is like this except it's not a full tower, and there is only one CD/DVD bay, and it only has the larger window
I guess they don't manufacture the model I have anymore
See ^ IE Sux!
I knew this ten years ago. At least you don't have to design for IE6/7
20:02
Thats a screenshot from IE11
I know, but IE6 was much worse
Ah
I would hate to have to use pngs. Back to digging around here and google
1) make a special CSS file for IE using conditional comments, or 2) use some javascript library that normalizes stuff for IE
Oh
Good thing it works in Microsoft Edge. but no one at work has that
@tereško should I get beer? tempted to get a six pack of milk stout nitro... I really shouldn't though :|
20:05
I just started my second one
.. not a neutral arbitrator
lol
it's like eight dollars and I can never finish a full bottle
before my head starts to edge towards a migraine :|
@Tiffany great thing I just found "Note that IE 10 and up DO NOT support conditional comments at all."
I don't think anyone at work has IE 6, 7, 8 or maybe 9...
you can use a media query
thats true
I didn't know they stopped supporting it 😐
20:11
guess so
@Tiffany have you seen things like these?
I have from from USSR times, which do not have that hinge
they work just fine on bottles with a small lip (not like the one in the image)
but I am not sure how to google it
like bottle resealer... I'm finding websites of people talking about one, but nothing so far of where to find one
That's called a "clip top" (the name "kilner" might be useful)
@Tiffany nope
I have never seen a "generic" one, i.e. one without the hinge though
I can visualise what he's talking about but I can't seem to find one on sale
It wouldn't be mega difficult to make one out of steel wire though
I added the one I linked to cart. Probably will buy it later this week.
!!should i go to the store or fix my VPS
You should go to the store.
don't use square bottles for pressurised liquids, btw
more accurately, don't use use anything other than completely round ones
anything with vertices has weak points and can fracture under pressure
not sure I've seen a square bottle commercially
20:20
(I learned this the hard way)
forgot about hard liquor. They have square bottles sometimes
It's OK if you just put something carbonated in it, but you can't use it for brewing anything where you have to periodically release the pressure
I need to make a grocery list. I'm not sure all that I need.
I hate making grocery lists
- Beer
- Sausages
- Beer
- Beer
- Sausages
- Beer
not enough fiber
20:23
Buy some cheapo sausages then
they will have more rusk
lol
I have - fizzy drink
@Tiffany if I find one, I will link you to it
it has become a project
@tereško 😛 alright
I get an error
20:26
@Tiffany it was not an ie thing it was my svg that was the problem
ok, SO's image oneboxing seriously sucks
mainly finding bottles with it
so, this cap is a stand-alone thing
or it was in soviet times
or ones that are standalone... are in Germany
probably doesn't help I'm googling the german word instead :P
20:31
@DaveRandom the picture is shit :(
also so is the score
at least we now have an image for the general target
TBH, a box of 10 of these would actually be something to consider as a gift :D
just reseal the original cap
...oh just read reviews, they're pretty bad
well, I started following a trail of googling german words and somehow ended up an amazon results page full of nursing bras, at which point my misses walked into the room, so I'm going to stop now
5
hahahaha
how the fuck
rofl
I might try something like this
not perfect, but might get the job done
20:39
@Tiffany just don't use google's "look for similar images" feature on that
it might scare your boyfriend
or excite him
not saying anymore than that
anyway, bottle caps
I need to go to the store, before I decide I don't want to anymore
I think I will just visit tomorrow supermarket and try to catch an older shop assistant
@DaveRandom I'm trying this with that: bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/quick-pickled-onions
20:45
@Danack you are an old-ish person, do you know the proper term for those bottle caps?
or could it be that it actually only a thing in soviet countries
@DaveRandom debating on tweeting this
5 mins ago, by Tiffany
I need to go to the store, before I decide I don't want to anymore
go, buy
if you come back and don't want to open, you will have that option
I always try to maximize the available options - that way, when things got tits up I have one or two good ways to react ... and it also works well with small things, like booze

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