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7:10 PM
my worst was working on a server powersupply. It had a 400v DC segment. It was being unstable so I was using a scope on it live. Accidentially brushed the 400v DC components with differetn hands. Took 400v straight across the chest. Luckily I was off balance and fell. woke up about 10 minutes later to my dog licking my face
 
You get checked after? Those kinds of shocks can make you have weird heart problems like 10 years later.
 
nope, didn't get checked
:/
 
Should it take 1273ms to update an binary field on a record using indexes?
 
I have a buddy whose parents were killed when all three of them were holding hands and one of them got struck by lighting. He has all kinds of weird stuff as a result.
@Raldo94 That's a pretty broad question.
 
wow. that's really f*ed up
 
7:18 PM
@Allenph Yes, direct in SSMS 7ms, the API is shit
Its not that kind to the SQL server, peaks at 102k batch requests / second when running ~10 processes running an fetching task against the API for about 40 seconds
 
7:46 PM
Afternoon.
 
> if($stmt->execute()){
does PHP both execute the statement, and check to see if it was successful? used in an if-then
 
@Tiffany Yes, but typically the database drivers are configured to throw exceptions on error.
 
it returns false on failure
buuuuuut
you should be using exceptions
 
it seems awkward to me that it would both perform the execution, and check to see if it was successful, when using a conditional, the action should only be checking if true or false. I read this somewhere, I'll see if I can find it.
 
it will return false on error
 
7:55 PM
right, but it still performs the action within the conditional
 
what is "it"
the "it" should be killed with fire
 
if($stmt->execute()){
 
because the person who wrote the "it", has no idea how to use PDO/MySQLi
 
I feel like I've asked this before at some point.
 
if that statement returns false, then your SQL code is written wrong
for example, you wrote INERT instead of INSERT
 
7:58 PM
I get that
 
then what the fuck are you talking about?
 
but it seems logical to me to perform the action, then check to see if it errored
I'll try to write an example after meeting
 
try {
   $stmt->execute();
} catch(Exception $e) {
   // for fuck sake
}
 
Wes
@PeeHaa <?= $deal ?><?= $with ?><?= $it ?>
 
@Wes You know what the worst thing about being a room owner is?
 
Wes
8:02 PM
ahahaha
 
i cannot kick you right now without triggering mods
 
Wes
no :B but i can imagine it
 
:P
 
why not?
 
Wes
:B i love how programmers are completely irrational about certain things
like the trailing comma or that
 
8:04 PM
@ircmaxell Mods get pinged when you kick people and come ask what's going on
 
@Wes we also need a trailing dot
 
@PeeHaa We need a !!timeout function for Jeeves which bins everything said in the specified interval from a given user :-D
 
lol
 
@Wes for some things though (like 2 vs 4 spaces) it's not irrational, there's scientific data. Just most ignore it
 
That is so terrible :D
 
@DaveRandom oh, I am so abusing that
 
!!> echo "Hello world";
 
Wes
lol
 
[ 5.6.0 - 5.6.30, 7.0.0 - 7.2.0rc5 ] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ';' (T_STRING), expecting ',' or ';' in /in/jWPm7 on line 1 <br/><i>Process exited with code <b title="Generic Error">255</b>.</i>
[ hhvm-3.22.0 ] Fatal error: Uncaught Error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ',' or ';' in /in/jWPm7:-1 Stack trace: #0 {main} <br/><i>Process exited with code <b title="Generic Error">255</b>.</i>
[ hhvm-3.18.5 - 3.21.3 ] Fatal error: Uncaught Error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ',' or ';' in /in/jWPm7:1 Stack trace: #0 {main} <br/><i>Process exited with code <b title="Generic Error">255</b>.</i>
 
@ircmaxell See! I should be allowed to kick people!
 
8:08 PM
I think most things will actually give the exact same pixel rendering :-D
 
No @DaveRandom I will not accept your PR
 
@ircmaxell That's pretty savage. If you can get someone to run a random bash script from the internet (often works surprisingly) github.com/keroserene/rickrollrc
 
8:26 PM
@DaveRandom lol! raw
Why is a mimic a chest anyway?
Also anyone worked with EDI?
 
@Fabor What about it? Isn't that just like...any eCommerce?
 
8:42 PM
Well those who use it sure. Seems pretty in depth
 
Wes
8:57 PM
 
He's not far from here now.
Wish I could play the new Mario
 
9:22 PM
@tereško yes, that was what I was thinking
 
@Wes congrats, you managed to find a doctored image
 
Wes
but funny.
 
Anyone here actually build websites, agency wise?
How much you think this cost? Very rough estimate. WP site. blackcube.com
 
What's the budget? :P
 
@Fabor in Latvia, probably €500-2000 if done privately
 
9:28 PM
Design included?
 
yes - ish
 
@PeeHaa :P i'm just wondering here.
 
Wes
10 pages mostly all different, i'd say 10k ish
 
Wes
but for sure you can find someone that would do it for 500€
 
9:29 PM
@Wes a hungry student
 
trade off at a 500 EUR build though?
 
shitty animations, bugs
"design" actually being a modified version of a stolen template
10k it would cost here if done properly, by hiring an agency
10k would pay for 200 manhours in a mid range "web agency" in LV
 
About what I would expect.
 
it's basically full-week (and a bit) for 4 people: designer, frontend, backend and manager
if course the split would not be so equal
 
I don't like the black cube animation though -_-
 
9:41 PM
@ircmaxell Yesterday I got a notification about WordPress 4.8.3 and saw you were the person who reported the security flaw it fixes.
 
9:55 PM
s/reported/beat into their thick skulls/
 
 
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11:46 PM
@tereško hmmm. witcher 3 is quite beautiful
 
you don't say
looks like you are just going through all the hi-res games, that you always wanted to play :D
 
@wes I was looking at the 'prop-op' RFC. I think a couple of things:
i) It needs to be more explicit about what visibility a property would have. I don't currently understand what the proposal is proposing. I suspect that to allow clear definition, (that doesn't involve any assumptions being made, by something not being present) all three (get, set, and property visibility) need to be possible to define.

protected $title public get, private set;
ii) You need to decide if the RFC is about a new syntax for currently possible code, or also introducing new functionality. I'd suggest keeping it simple and have it just be shorthand for what is currently possible. The more advanced stuff is just too complex to comprehend.

That would also allow removing all the inheritance stuff and changes to reflection.
iii) Having to define the visibility of either get or set is dumb. If I just don't want to create that info, then there shouldn't be a problem in there just not being any setter.
 
Wes
all three? @Danack
wat
i'm clearly explaining it very badly because you are already the second thinking it is more complicated than it actually is
protected $title public get, private set;
doesn't make sense. is it protected or public? protected or private?
 
ok, time to sleep
enough fucking around with webpack
 
@Wes protected property, with public getter, and private setter.
class Foo {
  VIS1 $bar;
  VIS2 function getBar() { return $this->bar;}
  VIS3 function setBar($newBar) { $this->bar = $newBar; }
}
 
Wes
11:53 PM
it' doesn't make sense @Danack it's not what i am doing
 
That class has one property with getter and setter. I can't see how in the proposed syntax, how all three visibility entries would be modifiable.
 
Wes
that is a field and a property around it. two separate entities and each of them has its own visibility
in my rfc there is only one entity
i mean, it's not like
private $_foo;
public get $foo { return $this->_foo; }
in that case each "property" (foo, _foo) is inherited its own way
and that is not the case in my rfc
there exists only one thing it can be inherited
am i being clear on this? :B
 

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