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12:00 PM
Morgen
 
\o
well, you're waking up at 2PM? :P
 
Yes
:P
 
well, you're not quite an early riser :B
 
Lately not really no :)
 
PCRE JIT broken in 7.2 – #75223
 
12:03 PM
good mninrog @PeeHee
 
petah o/
 
@DaveRandom that's a part of my past I haven't told the story of yet....
 
can we have some story time then!
:B
 
@Danack btw the other day I was showing my dad a photo on my phone and a pic from phpnw came up with you in it and he said "Oh, is that the unix guy of your group? I assume he smokes a pipe?"
 
@Danack gosh your email to internals was such toxic, much challenging, wow! :P
 
12:10 PM
@DaveRandom I was just thinking today, that my beard is looking more unixy, and less wild man than normal.
 
:P
 
@tpunt I also think that the specific semantics proposed (that part about how tabs and spaces interact) will cause a lot of pointless bikeshedding, so it's best to avoid the issue altogether
 
IT Crowd?
 
Indeedy.
 
12:12 PM
I watched 10 mins of the first ep; was so cringy.
 
> I think it's quite urgent and requires attention.
"but not enough for me to bother to generate the backtrace."
 
@Andrea Desktop with some i5 (maybe 2nd gen Haswell?)
For PHP it doesn't really matter anyway
 
when I'm checking a web server's logs to see why it went down, what am I looking for? patterns of IP addresses, patterns of behavior?
 
Define "went down"
 
in this case it timed out, and third party monitors reported it down because it took longer than 30 seconds to resolve
but it happened about five different times through the night
 
12:15 PM
OK when you say "resolve" what does that mean? The DNS?
 
there was no HTTP response, resolve is probably the wrong word
 
OK, how much of a trace can you get from the failed monitoring requests?
 
someone else is thinking it might have something to do with the VMs, but I have no way of checking that, and the person who can, isn't in yet.
 
Which web server is it and what's powering it? Like is it apache/php, tomcat/java or something more exotic?
 
and what's the monitoring tool (out of obvious curiosity)
 
12:18 PM
@DaveRandom could it be that, a human being is reading all the incoming request and sending out requests, typing by hand?
 
@Gordon we use two, pingdom and siteimprove
 
@Saitama ah, the good old Apache Turk
 
@DaveRandom web server that hosts our main website, IIS/PHP
Pingdom says it received a 307 response
 
@DaveRandom Windows sucks. :P
 
Aug 27 at 15:46, by Saitama
nah, windows sucks
 
12:21 PM
You aborted at several parts where $data === false || $data === "", but sometimes these sockets are readable apparently but there's nothing to read.
 
@Tiffany yup, I'm out :-P
 
lol
I don't blame you
I need to learn where Linux stores logs
 
I am a Windows guy, but seriously fuck IIS
 
so I can be ever closer to switching from WIMP
 
@Tiffany /var/log usually
 
12:23 PM
hmmm, do I have a VM on this machine...
 
@Tiffany that's a Temporary Redirect
 
yeah
 
I actually store site-level logs with the site though, personally, under /srv/www
 
@DaveRandom You currently pass the exit code via STDIN, but if I close STDIN, then that fails, no?
 
but I don't understand why... unless updates were being ran last night or something and the serveradmin neglected to tell us
 
12:24 PM
do you have something like an automated maintenance page?
 
@kelunik I pass it via wrapper process STDIN. The actual target child is via a socket.
 
I wish... I need to look into setting one up.
 
umm
is that right?
I forget
moment let me check
 
well, ask your server admin?
 
I will when he gets in... if he's in today... I hope he's in today
 
12:25 PM
@DaveRandom No, I think you pass it via the TCP $socket[0].
 
looks like someone keeps trying to access /wp-login.php which doesn't exist for us
 
likely a bot probing for wordpresses to hack
 
lol
 
@kelunik yes, right. Originally my code dealt with this with STREAM_SHUT_WR but if you extract the raw stream and fclose() it then it will break.
 
I get countless /wp-admin requests on my server :P
 
12:30 PM
but I would argue... just don't do that...
 
@Saitama me too
 
@DaveRandom We could just write the exit code to the wrappers stdout, no?
 
You guys working on amp/process for windows?
 
@Gordon yeah, just wasn't sure if it was something unique to this log, but checked another log and there were several instances of attempting /wp-login.php as well, so doesn't seem noteworthy
 
@PeeHaa I am.
 
12:32 PM
Sweet
 
It's a huge pain.
 
Sorry :)
 
@kelunik You can't select() for it
that's the reason I used the sockets
 
@DaveRandom Yes, right, and we probably want that, because the other streams could be closed.
 
altering a table column from decimal 8,2 to 10,2. Is that a heavy action?
 
12:41 PM
How can I get internal cmd commands to run? cmd /c echo Hello just exits with 1.
 
@kelunik dunno, can you make it work with raw proc_open()?
It might just not be possible
 
@kelunik that sounds like an understatement.
@salathe I bet you one beer that person doesn't provide a stack trace before someone else asks for it.
 
@kelunik I mean I could create another socket for control data, but I would argue that it's better to say that if you break the abstraction by operating on the raw streams, the results are undefined
 
@DaveRandom Didn't try that, any other simple command I can use for testing other than ping? Need something that basically exits immediately, but not exit.
 
@kelunik ipconfig?
 
12:44 PM
@DaveRandom Yes, that works.
 
or you want something with a well defined output and not too many variables
@kelunik ver might work better
just because the output is simpler and less variable
 
@Tiffany I believe I got caught in PoE cc/ @tereško. My weekend just passed like that.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I died
 
@DaveRandom Same as echo, can't be found. Probably also an internal command.
 
@kelunik oh, weird
 
12:47 PM
@tereško u play hardcore?
 
lost my lvl 45-ish, character on hardcore
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier how else would you play?
 
@tereško What state is palladium in?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier \o/
I started playing on hardcore
 
12:48 PM
@tereško I'd play the way where you are not completely disgusted from the game for three months because of a misclick
 
@PeeHaa working, but I want to make a 2.0 release, because I need a DB changed
 
k tnx
 
I have a level 28 sunder marauder
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa 08/02 was the date Jeff Sessions was made Attorney General. It takes 800 gallons of paint to paint the white house. 10/02 was the date of a lifeboat accident in the Canary Islands, the average weight of a lifeboat is 1400kg. So you're looking at around 2.1kg.
 
@Tiffany yeah I'll try that soon
 
12:49 PM
@JayIsTooCommon Useless as ever
 
@PeeHaa I am currently using it in 3 separate projects
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I started playing hardcore because of a streamer I watch who plays hardcore exclusively and dies all the time as well. I figure if I play hardcore, constantly lose characters, I'll get better at leveling.
apparently the economy is a lot better in hardcore
 
oh, and when you start earning currency, poe.trade is your friend, as well as currency.poe.trade
 
C:\Users\chris.wright>php -r "echo shell_exec('date /t');"
18/09/2017
 
12:50 PM
if you do not need to track, how many times a cookie-login has been used, then the 1.x version is production-ready, @PeeHaa
 
kk
 
@Tiffany because there is a counteractive for to the inflation
 
yeah
 
@DaveRandom Yes, cmd /c date /t works there, too.
 
and standard becomes the trashbin for all other leagues
 
12:52 PM
every time someone dies, a significant amount of wealth gets moved to the non-HC server
 
I thought there was no currency
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier when you die in hardcore, you don't completely lose the character, it just gets moved to standard.
there is no gold
items are currency
almost everything is valued in chaos orbs or exalted orbs
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa that took effort
 
I've never seen a chaos orb
 
they're a random drop
 
12:54 PM
what is this alien dialect the people are speaking?
 
sometimes you get super lucky and they drop early on when you're leveling, other times you have to wait until you're higher level and get items that you can sell for chaos
 
on the left you can see all the "currencies"
 
are you playing normal league?
 
D:
 
12:55 PM
are these inventory tabs only available on hardcode on harbinger or ?
 
you have to buy them
 
basically the only "p2w" purchase in the game
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier ingame purchase
 
I'm ok with buying useful tabs in a free game
 
12:56 PM
yeah. I have like 20 or 30 tabs...
 
I think the gem tab was quite cheap
the 4x named tabs were like $3
 
wait for a stash tab sale, they do them once every three weeks, on weekends
 
^ that
 
my name is jeff
 
noted. omg the portal scroll stacks
 
12:57 PM
:P
 
shit. I must go to work and not play all day long
shit shit shit.
 
hahaha, welcome to the life of a PoE player
 
:D
 
there are days I go home for lunch just to get my fix
 
lol
"What harm could a little hour do?!" gets eaten by raptor
 
12:59 PM
 
so, you guys are in the harbinger league?
 
smh
Page fails to load
 
@WillParky93 good
that means they aren't spreading their malware
 

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