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11:00 AM
I've thought about it, and ... you can have the code: 001100010010011110100001101101110011, use it sparingly, or not at all ...
 
@Ocramius i see. thanks
 
i have some code which doing nicely builded xml putting into array and somehow its object array and i have no clue how to turn that object array which is contain xml's to php array for database
also i asked in stackoverflow would you guys mind check it?
 
you can't store a php array in a database
 
Anonymous
technically you can, you just don't do it.
 
you can't, you can store strings ...
 
11:03 AM
yeah but i cant figure it out somehow i am tupid guess
 
Anonymous
@JoeWatkins You can store it as a string while keeping it's array format intact
 
that doesn't make any sense
something is either a string or an array, a string with an array format is just a thing you made up ...
it's a string ...
 
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A: How to store arrays in MySQL?

Bad WolfThe proper way to do this is to use multiple tables and JOIN them in your queries. For example: CREATE TABLE person ( `id` INT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY, `name` VARCHAR(50) ); CREATE TABLE fruits ( `fruit_name` VARCHAR(20) NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY, `color` VARCHAR(20), `price` INT ); CREATE TABLE pers...

 
Anonymous
$string = var_export($array, true);
 
Anonymous
@JoeWatkins You can store $string
 
11:05 AM
it doesn't matter how you word it, you cannot store a php array in a database ...
 
Anonymous
not with that attitude
 
you can store the value of the elements, obviously, and you can serialize it (using whatever function you like) for storage, but none of that is the same as storing an array ...
anyway, show question link @MunkhdelgerTumenbayar
 
!!docs is_iterable
 
[ is_iterable() ] Verify that the contents of a variable is an iterable value
 
Damn, 7+
 
11:13 AM
if I'm reading this right, you want to store the xml in the database
it's hard to know what you're asking for ...
 
guess what came up in my playlist youtu.be/miomuSGoPzI
 
my rainbow elephpant is in the post ...
 
hey hey i am back :)
@JoeWatkins
@JoeWatkins stackoverflow.com/questions/45342686/… here is the link
 
@Sean easy enough to polyfill
 
I already read it and failed to make sense of it ... and now I'm thinking about kittens ...
kittens and
When somebody who may die speaks of their obligation to maintain software after their death, I am forced to think something is broken #oss
I mean, just what is that ... let me tell you, when I die, I don't and can't give a fuck about what you lot do, and if I could give a fuck about anything, I would find more important things to give fucks over ...
 
11:28 AM
 
no such duty exists while he is alive, it certainly cannot exist if he dies ... but I don't think it's helpful to respond ... so I'll just rant at you people ...
 
k
 
@JoeWatkins it exists for him, for now at least, because he decided it does
 
did he decide it does though ... I can't imagine that given a free choice, you would make this a priority in that situation ...
 
> because Emacs-using PHP developers deserve that
Emacs-using PHP developers deserve everything that's coming for them.
 
11:35 AM
so he must feel he doesn't really have a choice but to waste time on this ... which is tragic ...
 
it's clearly a project that means a lot to him, something he's spent a significant portion of himself on, and he doesn't want to think of that going down the shitter
 
I can kind of see that ... but what I'm saying is that if oss works, you shouldn't need to make pleas for maintainers in what might be your final days ...
 
Anyone used apache velocity in file templates in PHPStorm?
 
oss works, and it doesn't, and "works" means a lot of different things. it'll never be ideal
 
I'm trying to add extends PHPUnit\Framework\TestCase automatically if the class name ends with "Test" - I've done it before with Exception and extends \Exception but I can't find it
 
11:42 AM
@kelunik For dev we just mount the project directory as a volume:
volumes:
      - .:/var/www
 
Anonymous
@JoeWatkins Not only after I die, but if I had a very limited time to live ... I would hope to spend them without thinking about anything related to oss, code, software, programming ....
 
Anonymous
I don't understand people sometimes :
 
@samayo you'd want to spend time with things you care about, some people care about those things
 
Anonymous
@PaulCrovella To each his own, but I find that pity. Of all the thing you could see and care about before you die, you would still waste your precious time with some if/else shit crap ... it's sad but to each his own
 
Anonymous
I don't mean his code is shit, but the entire realm of programming, software is just meh
 
11:48 AM
@samayo your attitude is a pity, looking down on someone else for enjoying what they enjoy though it has no consequence to you
 
Anonymous
I'm not looking down, I said to each his own.
 
> waste your precious time
it's not a waste if it's what they want to be doing
 
well I don't want you to misunderstand ... code is important to me, most of the time ... not equally as important as relationships I have with my children, wife, and whatever ... of all the things I do actually cherish, code is the only thing that will survive my death ... that's why I can't see it being a priority at that time ...
 
hi there..
 
"code is the only thing that will survive my death" ... that's ominous. do the kids know?
 
11:51 AM
so I assumed, and read between the lines, that he does feel obliged, in a way that feels and looks wrong to me ...
@PaulCrovella they will survive, but the relationships I have with them will not ...
 
I have one numeric value which is dynamic e.g. 1: , 1-: , 1 -:
I want to just get integer value from above numeric value..
 
I'm not trying to speak for the guy, I'm really talking in the abstract here about all this
 
it's impossible to know how I would behave, or why someone else is behaving the way they are ... it was probably a bad idea to guess ...
I just felt so sad when I read those words ...
 
understood
 
??
 
Anonymous
11:59 AM
I guess I have a biased opinion on this as I don't enjoy coding. If not, I would be more accepting
 
Anonymous
On a sidenote, Drupal is nice but the learning curve is too steep.
 
!!xkcd photos
 
I hate when people take photos of their meal instead of eating it, because there's nothing I love more than the sound of other people chewing.
2
 
Anonymous
@PaulCrovella give it a rest
 
@samayo no
 
Anonymous
12:06 PM
Don't make me come and hate the things you are passionate about :)
 
Anonymous
Can someone help with D8?
 
@Jeeves I identify both with both sides of this argument, and as a cactus
 
@Jimbo Well there is no side there is no information there is a drive at the heart of all beigns.
 
Fucking hell, I think I just got philosophised by Jeeves
 
nevermind that, my elephant is here ...
 
Anonymous
12:13 PM
@JoeWatkins His wording seems to suggest that a soon to be death is inevitable
 
I feel im doing something simple wrong, but i cant see what, any ideas? 3v4l.org/jm74I
 
You're using traits
 
typical
@Petah Trait method aliases are aliases
The original method is still there
And that's where you get the collision
 
oh i see, so i will need to use insteadof in the class
thanks
@PeeHaa also thanks for the classic welcoming attitude people expect from the php community
 
12:20 PM
:D
fwiw I am not the php community
And on top of that I am right
 
Anonymous
nor was he unwelcoming
 
@NikiC Which is so pretty stupid.
 
@DaveRandom Hey, thanks! That'll be put to good use :>
You going to be there for NW?
 
@kelunik It's not, @WesStark explained why the other day. Here's roughly why: github.com/php/php-src/pull/2616#issuecomment-316498595
TLDR: original names need to be kept for when they are being used by other methods from the same trait
i think that PR would be nice for 7.2 still, mainly for the better collision error messages hint hint
 
@pmmaga Those just have to be magically renamed too, otherwise they hit the wrong method.
Traits are just stupid.
 
12:28 PM
php has Object::class, would be nice to have Object::shortClass or similar to get just the class name and not the namespace too
Rather than reflection
 
@kelunik sounds... scary :P
 
@kelunik I think fubar is the technical term
@Jimbo I have never had a need for that, until last week where I suddenly needed just that twice :P
Wasn't that annoyed by reflection though
 
@Sean of course :-)
 
@PeeHaa Nope, just a nicety
 
yep
 
12:30 PM
@Jimbo basename(Object::class) works, I would prefer nameof(<symbol>) as a compile-time thing
i.e. nameof(Object) === 'Object', nameof($obj->prop) === 'prop', nameof($var) === 'var' etc
notably this would enable nameof(function_name) for passing bare functions as callbacks
 
As long as it also works for methods
 
and variable variables, because hail satan
 
@DaveRandom And can't work for functions, because they're ambiguous, because of the fallback.
 
yes, it's compile-time and not checked whether the symbol actually exists, like ::class
 
@PaulCrovella hehe
 
Anonymous
12:34 PM
@brzuchal doooo itttt gist.github.com/brzuchal/…
 
@DaveRandom Doesn't work in an abstract class, I was using $this and it would be correct for the extended class. self::class doesn't work
I get the long class name with basename(self::class)
 
@DaveRandom I guess we'd have to add a setTlsActive to Resource*Stream in Amp then?
 
@kelunik tbh I haven't actually looked at how this will affect amp's implementation because it's a language-level problem
I'm not familiar enough with amp's implementation to evaluate it without doing some reading
 
@DaveRandom It's important to have a look there, because it should be a solution that doesn't make the implementation really horrible.
 
@Jimbo basename(static::class) I think you want
 
12:37 PM
Tried that too ;)
 
orly?
 
@DaveRandom I guess that's the first use case where multiple watchers of the same kind on the same stream are really useful.
 
@DaveRandom Actually, it does in 3v4l, must be doing something wrong here, will double check
 
apparently basename doesn't handle \ on *nix :-(
 
12:40 PM
Ah no way
 
@DaveRandom That notice is really annoying. 3v4l.org/inBZS
@DaveRandom Because it's a allowed path element in *nix I think.
 
@JoeWatkins <3
I have one too :D
 
MORNINGS
excellent elephant
just saw it on twitter Joe, nice
 
@kelunik right. feof() does indeed solve the read misinterpreted FIN problem, I hadn't thought of that, although you still need to know that the read operation requires writability so that you can register a write watcher and re-attempt the read (I think)
The fact that you can check feof() means that it doesn't matter which order the multiple read watchers are execute in though, so that's good
 
As long as TLS is the only thing that can result in readability + read returning an empty string, we could just assume it wants writability there.
I guess we could assume the same for writability?
 
12:47 PM
I dunno, you could probably work around it by inspecting the write buffer, not sure if that info is directly accessible
but you still need the info for enable_crypto() because it's opaque
 
Anonymous
@JoeWatkins heh, look at that bald head
 
so you might as well just check the get_error() value because it's explicit
there are almost certainly weird edge-cases where those assumptions are not true
18 hours ago, by DaveRandom
The tl;dr of this, btw, is that socket programming is inherently complicated and trying to simplify it with the streams API while retaining complicated stuff like nbio was and is a bad idea
 
@DaveRandom Yes, but that's not available on most versions Amp runs on.
 
@JayIsTooCommon silence, boy
 
anyone else noticed that 7.2b1 seems to not show Fatal errors on recursion/memory limit? Things like 3v4l.org/rIQY1 / 3v4l.org/68KPs
 
12:58 PM
how do you guys have your .gitignore file organized, if organized at all?
do you group files and folders separately, and alphabetize them?
or just alphabetize all?
 
@Tiffany I dont put enough crap there to require a approach for organizing
right now mine contains:
/vendor/
/tests/*/report
/tests/fixtures/live.db
it doesn't really need organizing
 
Anonymous
I know this might sound disrespectful, but when are we fucking stopping treating veterans as "admirable"? Deprecated paid legalised killers.
 
Anonymous
@Ocramius wtf dude.
 
I have some proprietary stuff in there like machform or a chat program, plus stuff that's required at the federal level... well stuff that we're required to have on the website, but not required in my .gitignore
 
it doesn't look like they are hitting memory limit
 
1:02 PM
@WesStark halo cat
 
aren't you killing them because they are taking too long @Sjon ?
 
@Sjon exit code 137 - something sending a sigkill?
 
@JoeWatkins yeah, but I was killing the other ones as well
I'd expect php to fatal before I need to kill them
 
@JayIsTooCommon must be a german thing. Some of them have turned quite self-hating and masochistic. Ya know "immigrants welcome" and "fuck the military" goes together quite nicely.
 
@tereško maybe I need to clean my server up
 
Anonymous
1:05 PM
I'm waiting on the clarification.. But up to now, that's a disgraceful tweet.
 
I don't think a veteran automatically deserves my respect. I'll give them basic human decency that I extend to everyone. There are some veterans that are assholes.
 
Veterans in the war tend to not seek or need respect anyway.
 
But, I think they do deserve military discounts and stuff like that, they are giving up or have given up their life to serve.
 
It's apparently a common thing to not want to talk or glorify their experiences, and it's not too difficult to imagine why
 
yeah
Friend of mine who is a veteran will turn down people saying "thank you for serving," he'd rather see that enthusiasm pointed at charities that help injured vets or support for legislation that helps vets
 
1:10 PM
@Tiffany people say that to make themselves to feel better. It's basically the same mindset as "I will pray for you".
 
yeah :/
The other type of vet I do not like are the ones who are excited to kill
 
but what @Ocramius seems to advocating for is abolishing of army
 
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Abusing the bot like it's 1990
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This is primarily towards the US armed forces, but I suppose it could be extended to other countries. I'd like to see the military serve communities more in times of peace.
 
1:14 PM
@kelunik A standard PHP preprocessor would be really useful :-/
 
@Tiffany wouldn't that make it "not his business"?
 
PPHPHP?
 
@DaveRandom I don't like those things. They tend to pick to wrong future behavior at times
 
I'd rather they were being training on the best equipment money can buy, and I'd rather they had the money to buy that equipment, and be trained on it ...
also, people resent a military presence, regardless of intentions ...
 
@Sjon what triggers the sigkill on your side? Timeout or memory consumption or...?
 
1:16 PM
I'm not sure what kind of vet is being referred too ...
 
i thought i have joind PHP group but it seems some military one :P
 
@PeeHaa ?
 
@AbdurRehman it's a chatroom, the conversation isn't always about PHP
 
Anonymous
@Tiffany No neither do I, but that tweet seems to target all veterans in a derogatory manner.
 
@DaveRandom too much output or runtime
 
1:17 PM
@DaveRandom preprocessors for langauges that implement stuff the language might include later
 
@JoeWatkins I am getting a feeling, that the "western world" sees military as a separate cast
 
Only the actual language implements it just slighty different
 
that's kinda worrying
 
#if PHP_VERSION < 70200
    // do old thing
#else
    // do shiny new thing
#endif
What's complicated about that?
 
@Sjon it's runtime, it just so happens that 7.2 doesn't consume enough memory to hit the configured limit, and so is killed by signal, and the others are killed before the signal is delivered ...
 
Anonymous
1:18 PM
@JoeWatkins do they?
 
@PeeHaa oh god no, that's preprocessor abuse, that's different
 
before 7.1 the delivery of a signal is like a lottery ...
 
@Tiffany just kidding man. thought better to send first message instead of reading others :D
 
@DaveRandom Glad we am agree
 
I'm not talking about weirdo macro substitution, fuck that shit
 
1:19 PM
@JoeWatkins that's possible; I'll see if i can find some more data
 
@AbdurRehman fair enough
 
@JayIsTooCommon yes, refer to any time that a foreign military has been deployed for peacekeeping ... however few the number are that resent their presence, they create unrest, and danger ...
 
Hi All
I am using REST API via cURL method in PHP. Everything working fine in my localhost. And i am getting the response from API.
Sample Response:
HTTP/1.1 302
Found Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
Set-Cookie: JSESSIONID=EBAAEA6749CEC6057A7A02DA66A4CFC4; Path=/oauth/; HttpOnly
Location: http://auth9.bullhornstaffing.com/oauth/www.bullhorn.com?code=XXXXXXXXXXXXXX&client_id=XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Content-Length: 0
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 13:13:36 GMT

When i moved the same code to my development server, i am getting the empty response. Can anyone help me.
 
@JoeWatkins yeah, looking at the performance that might be it. That would however imply 7.2b1 is a lot slower... 0.3s for 7.2a1 to fatal, but 2.5s needed for 7.2b1 to get killed
 
that could easily be a thing
/cc @NikiC what do you know/guess about that ?
 
1:22 PM
@DaveRandom Why?
 
Can I bug you for a release @Trowski or is there more open stuff on postgres you want to fix first?
 
Anonymous
@JoeWatkins Well, I'm a people and I wouldn't 'resent' UK military presence if it were present on my street.
 
@Sjon either that or 7.1 is just running out of memory after 0.3 seconds but 7.2 is memory-efficient enough that it never hits the limit and doesn't die until you kill it
 
@DaveRandom Can't OPCache eliminate those?
 
@Dinesh hopefully cURL is enabled on that server.
 
1:23 PM
@DaveRandom true.
 
@AbdurRehman I checked, cURL is already enabled.
 
@Sjon idiot check: have you verified that your 7.2b1 installation is actually using the memory limit you think it is?
 
@Dinesh Enable verbose and check the actual output
As well as check for errors
 
@DaveRandom well there's only a single php.ini so it kindof should
 
@Dinesh printing cURL response can give more idea
 
1:25 PM
@JayIsTooCommon you're kind of a people ...
 
@Sjon Did you check that with php --ini?
 
@Sjon assuming no bugs around retrieving that value from php.ini
 
anyway, I'm not saying everyone, it doesn't have to apply to everyone, you included, to be true ...
 
@kelunik Well that's sort of the point. You can do version-based branching at compile time so that the cached opcodes would only contain the ones that apply to the current version
horse-stable door-bolted though
 
Anonymous
well that resentment would soon be forgotten should you ever need it, imo.
 
1:26 PM
The world needs more memes in code review
 
@JoeWatkins context?
 
in a Conversation what would you call the Participant which has "point of view" role?
 
@DaveRandom Doesn't OPCache already do that?
 
@NikiC just above ... and a few message upward
 
@PeeHaa, I enabled curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_VERBOSE, true); to check the response. It is come something. But my doubt is, when i print the curl data the response is empty.
 
1:27 PM
> That would however imply 7.2b1 is a lot slower... 0.3s for 7.2a1 to fatal, but 2.5s needed for 7.2b1 to get killed
does that sound like it could be true ?
 
@Sara Less memes, more code review.
 
@tereško Twitter USer
 
@AbdurRehman I printed the cURL data, it doesn't display anything
 
@kelunik You're not fun. I shall give you my grumpy cat memes
 
1:29 PM
o/
 
\o
 
 
@kelunik Well you have no way to explicitly say "ignore this code block for this PHP version" afaik
 
@JoeWatkins unlikely
 
Anonymous
1:30 PM
> the time spent producing the memes would have been better spent capturing
the content of discussions during the working group.
 
Anonymous
who is this animal!?
 
@NikiC /cc @Sjon I defer to nikita ... probably something in your setup ...
or
user image
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@DaveRandom What's complicated about if (PHP_VERSION_ID < 70200) include('old-and-busted.php'); else include('new-hotness.php'); ?
 
@JoeWatkins yeah; edge-cases are stupid
 
hi every one. is using Amp event loop amphp.org/amp/event-loop a good choice for consuming messages from Amazon SQS ( message Queue ) ?
 
1:32 PM
As to macros: It'd be a huge PITA to create /good/ macros for PHP, but it'd be trivial to invoke gcc's preprocessor on PHP files if you really want it
 
@Vamsi /cc @kelunik @bwoebi @DaveRandom @PeeHaa
 
@Sara true, although it would be nice to eliminate the branch at compile time.
 
Ah. amphp great tech. Terrible community
:P
 
@DaveRandom OPCache does that for you.
┌[kelunik@kelunik] - [~] - [15:32:51] - []
└[5634] $ phpdbg -p* test.php
function name: (null)
L1-6 {main}() /home/kelunik/test.php - 0x7f21d9c1f190 + 1 ops
 L6    #0     RETURN                  1
[Script ended normally]

┌[kelunik@kelunik] - [~] - [15:32:54] - []
└[5635] $ cat test.php
<?php

if (PHP_VERSION_ID < 50600) {
    echo "";
}
 
currently have a good old Symfony command and cron calls it
 
1:34 PM
I've never heard of that optimization, I think it's removing dead code maybe
 
@Vamsi What are the issues you are hitting? Throughput?
 
seems 7.2beta1 pcre update will block at least one hacker 3v4l.org/7SkkH
 
@Vamsi Depends on what you do with the jobs.
 
1 minute limitation of cron
 
@JoeWatkins Yup.
 
1:36 PM
@Vamsi Depending on what you are doing it could be a good thing. However if it's just the 1 min limit note there is also something like anacron
Which IIRC is much more flexible
 
wat
Fo realz?
 
@Vamsi Why do you consume the jobs with a cron?
 
Anonymous
trollz
 
Oh misread
 
1:37 PM
damn trollz
:P
 
@Sara nope, that won't do
 
Welp. I was happy for a few seconds at least.
 
:D
 
@kelunik it's not dead because of the expression, it's dead because of the echo
do
if (PHP_VERSION_ID > 70300) {
	function thing(){}
}
 
@kelunik cron only for few things ( like news letter email delivery )
 
1:40 PM
@JoeWatkins It's the same with echo "foobar";
 
or maybe it isn't ...
 
@JoeWatkins It evaluates the expression as it's constant and eliminates dead code then.
 
yeah
 
mostly I will just need to dispatch an event , if I were to use Amp/Event Loop .
and Symfony services will pick it from there
 
@JoeWatkins how would you describe, what an "entrant" is?
(since you are ostensibly english)
 
1:42 PM
in what context ?
 
without any context
 
participant
 
@Vamsi Amp\Loop (the event loop) isn't about arbitrary events, but timers and I/O events. What you probably want is your queue + a worker (or multiple) that waits for new jobs and processes them, running as a daemon.
 
is that a direct synonym, or does it come with some associated "flavor", @JoeWatkins?
 
@tereško Specifically entering or participating?
 
1:45 PM
the dictionary definitions would have you use entrant to describe an individual or group of individual entrants, and participant to describe only an individual ...
 
hmm
 
Anonymous
dumb question: Can you log into a server with someone's ssh id
 
depends on how that user is setup, some users can't login ...
actually, I'm not sure I understand the question ...
 
what is an ssh id? a user name? the uid of the user (1001) ?
 
what am I doing wrong here?
 ALTER TABLE `page_banners`
   ADD COLUMN 'description' VARCHAR(255);
 
1:55 PM
@kelunik got it, we do use a redis powered library for real queue + workers ( php resque ) . I am just experimenting with some new things . Question is : Can Amp\Loop be used to power the worker , instead of doing things like this github.com/chrisboulton/php-resque/blob/master/lib/Resque/…
 
@Tiffany Try without the `, sometimes that fails miserably for me
Or with another quote thingy
(forgot the name)
Also try removing ' around description
Or vice-versa
It's entirely possible this is a ` or ' issue
 
ALTER TABLE `thing`
   ADD COLUMN `description` VARCHAR(255);
 
@Tiffany `` is for surrounding symbols, '' is for string values
 
alright
something went down so need to get that fixed then I'll try new query
thanks
 
@Vamsi yup.
 
2:01 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier probably .ssh/id_* which is the private key
 
@kelunik oh cool, TIL
 
@kelunik thanks , will try it out .
 
I switched the tick marks to single quotes surrounding page_banners, it's still throwing a fit about the query.
 
Anonymous
@Tiffany remove the backticks and the quotes
 
@JayIsTooCommon and that worked
 
Anonymous
2:12 PM
magicz
 
@DaveRandom Opcache's Optimizer does elide that branch at compile time.
Heck, it even elides const arg calls to version_compare(), because why not.
 
2:23 PM
eeeeeee made my first somewhat major code change to the website code and it works
it inserts data into the database, and displays it :D :D :D
 
Anonymous
\o/
 
Anonymous
now quickly, get out while you still can
 
Anonymous
Become a goat farmer or something
 
(added a description field for alternative text for page banner images, so screenreaders won't feel left out)
the alt text was using the name field originally, but PR mainly uses that for internal purposes. Figured adding a whole new field for description would make more sense.
now I need to merge the branch D:
and no conflicts :D
 
2:43 PM
Anyone used terraform?
 
there has to be a simpler way to do this. Currently I have two repos, dev and prod. I've been maintaining them separately. I'm great at making regular commits on dev, but terrible at doing it on prod. Should I set it up to where I can git push changes to production? If I do that, will it use the same commit log?
 
!!? terraform
 
Search for "terraform" (https://www.google.com/search?q=terraform&lr=lang_en)
• Terraform by HashiCorp - Terraform enables you to safely and predictably create, change, and improve production infrastructu… (https://www.terraform.io/)
• GitHub - hashicorp/terraform: Terraform is a tool… - terraform - Terraform is a tool for building, changing, and combining infrastructure safely and eff… (https://github.com/hashicorp/terraform)
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Anonymous
@Tiffany O.o
 
@Fabor my spaceship is still stuck in RMA
 
Anonymous
2:46 PM
why do your production and dev not look at the same repo?
 
@Sara because PHP, that's why not. It's just not the level of sanity I've come to expect, and I demand that you restore the unpredictability immediately. My list of things to complain about is ever-diminishing and I want it back god damn it!
 
at one time the code on each server was different
I've since remedied this
 
@tereško You RMA'd something?
 
Anonymous
@Tiffany well then start using the 'production' repo in dev :)
 
@Fabor nevermind, it was a bad joke
 
2:48 PM
(terraform as in making a new planet livable for human life)
 
Ah :P sorry I am not thinking straight :p
 
!!wiki terraforming
 
Terraforming (literally, "Earth-shaping") of a planet, moon, or other body is the hypothetical process of deliberately modifying its atmosphere, temperature, surface topography or ecology to be similar to the environment of Earth to make it habitable by Earth-like life. The concept of terraforming developed from both science fiction and actual science. The term was coined by Jack Williamson in a science-fiction story (Collision Orbit) published during 1942 in Astounding Science Fiction, but the concept may pre-date this work. Based on experiences with Earth, the environment of a planet can be altered...
 
@JayIsTooCommon but what if my dev repo has the better commit log...
 
Anonymous
@Tiffany well whatever you decide, just start using one repo :B
 
2:51 PM
I need to run another diff to make sure they're still the same. I have this weird fear that they aren't in some random place that matters.
 
Anonymous
Ok... I have officially became a system administrator also. Started from making the site logo, the site itself in html, then Drupal, now to managing the entire server...
 
@samayo welcome to my life... and maintaining two other sites
 
Think it's possible in Windows 10 and Chrome to have a Chrome profile use the VPN and the other my default connection?
 
Anonymous
If I had a shitty salary, now would be the best time to ask for a raise..
 
when I improve myself well enough with PHP, I'll be able to find a new job... I dream for that day. I would go for PL/SQL dev but that's a dying breed. Most of the jobs I found for PL/SQL were in Pennsylvania of all places.
 
Anonymous
2:55 PM
PL/SQL? What's that...
 
Anonymous
Like mysql?
 
Oracle's programming language that uses SQL
I'm bad at explaining it
the syntax is similar to Ada
 
Gross. I accidentally bought Kimchi flavoured crisps.
 
Anonymous
Is it only for databases?
 
wiki says "PL/SQL is Oracle's procedural extension to SQL and Oracle relational databases."
yes
Once I figured out the quirks of the language, I found it to be fun. It's not a joy to work with, but it's not terrible.
 
2:58 PM
Hey guys, what would be a good VPS provider
for Linux VPS?
 
Digital Ocean is pretty common
 
need at least 3.25 GB of RAM
Ye, the one that meets my client requirements
Is overkill CPU wise.
And price wise too.
 

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