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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=! acpi_osi='Windows 2009'" #WAT https://t.co/lXXgEkDqvk
I'm so confused by linux...
 
 
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1:30 AM
I have php's built-in webserver running on a vagrant VM at localhost:8000, how do I access it from my host machine?
by access, I mean access localhost:8000
port forwarding in virtualbox?
 
@Tiffany yep - port forwarding does that, but it's usually explicit and requires a VM restart
 
I'm reading that I need to find the IP of the guest machine, add it to the ports and alias it to localhost (I think)?
frustrating part is ip addr show is "command not found" -_-
dammit
I'm probably better off making a new VM because I can't get @Jimbo's to work. Commands not found, which I'm guessing is a permissions problem? but I don't know the root password so I can't do anything about it. Back to square one again!
 
1:51 AM
Guys
O/
Anyone?
 
2:10 AM
most are asleep
 
Wes
2:50 AM
bla
 
3:06 AM
@littlepootis I had trouble the last time I tried forwarding ports through the vagrantfile. I followed their instructions and it wasn't working. But I'm going to try it again tomorrow. Bedtime now.
 
Wes
gn
 
3:41 AM
!!unix
 
3:56 AM
mrrrrning r11!
0/
 
 
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4:59 AM
morning
 
5:26 AM
@Linus morning.
 
5:50 AM
tuuttuuruuu~~~ mornings o/
 
To everyone coming in to the chatroom while I'm here... Please take a moment to complete the online survey which I need for my thesis. Please answer ALL questions. Just 10 minutes. Also if you need any help on php/codeigniter, I'll see what I can do to contribute in here.
 
6:07 AM
PDO Related – #74769
 
6:30 AM
Hello
 
Hey @SalOrozco
 
@itsols what's going on?
 
Most folks aren't here yet. You need help?
I do with my survey, if you don't mind :)
 
Survey?
 
yup. please look above a few posts. I have a link
 
6:34 AM
ok so whats wrong with it?
 
oh no, nothing wrong. I just need inputs from developers. So if you don't mind, I'd love to have yours.
And if you have any issues, I'd help if I can
 
What is SOLID?
 
huh? I don't understand. What are you talking about? Or are you testing to see if I'm not a bot - smiles...
 
@SalOrozco Here you go:
!!wiki SOLID
 
In computer programming, SOLID (single responsibility, open-closed, Liskov substitution, interface segregation and dependency inversion) is a mnemonic acronym introduced by Michael Feathers for the "first five principles" named by Robert C. Martin in the early 2000s that stands for five basic principles of object-oriented programming and design. The intention is that these principles, when applied together, will make it more likely that a programmer will create a system that is easy to maintain and extend over time. The principles of SOLID are guidelines that can be applied while working on software...
 
6:37 AM
LOL
i KNOW WHAT IT IS
I was testing him
you blew it
 
Oh, lol, didn't have a coffee yet :D
Only read some of the messages.
 
lol
 
Good one. I've been coding for a long while and I never knew this. Here we go... yet another acronym.
 
You don't know that
but you been coding for a long time?
 
Wes
@kelunik morning
 
6:50 AM
morning
 
Wes
are you caffeinated? :D
 
not yet, but coffee is already ready :D
 
So AMP 2.0.0 aye
Release notes? :)
 
thank you
 
7:26 AM
!!DAD
 
What do you call cheese that isn't yours? Nacho Cheese
 
@Jeeves get new one's..
 
@Linus I still do. Maybe two jobs.
 
any of you php devs also know java?
 
I like coffee, yes.
 
Wes
7:58 AM
cell shaded or diffuse shaded?
 
@wes these are better then you show yesterday (y)
 
Wes
yeah it's getting incrementally better every time :D
 
user6845426
I'm going to start seeing that logo in my sleep
 
Wes
lol
 
user6845426
:p whats up
 
8:03 AM
hahaha
 
user6845426
On a side note i've finally managed to get my first grad job :)
 
Yesterday I show dream where @wes give up on making changes and stop making logos anymore 0_o
 
user6845426
So the world stopped turning
 
Wes
i don't often do this kind of stuff
in fact almost never. surprises me being so good at it :B
 
That's actually nice to do different things!
 
8:06 AM
@Wes that look's cute elephant
 
@Wes Looks rotated when it's mirrored :D
tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1034#section-3.8 < That's a great section. :D
 
8:25 AM
What's the logo for Wes?
 
@Fabor Amp
 
Tis looovely
Elephant looking -> way is best
When can I order the t-shirt with that logo on it? :P
Or better yet, one previously worn by Daniel
 
@Fabor As soon as it's finished :D
 
-_- no no, you have to go straight to marketing the unfinished product if you want to be professional.
 
@Fabor You would have been walking around with a moonsquidcondom on your shirt though
ornigns
 
8:39 AM
I googled that expecting it to be something
Morning
 
Wes
@PeeHaa look above. cell shaded or soft shaded
 
open_basedir causes segfault (11) – #74770
 
Wes
also mornings
i beg for help
i'm very undecided
 
let me pour in my coffee and scroll up
soft
although I think it looks better on the larger one the smaller one looks like a lo res gif when you do that
 
Wow, amphp/dns has a code coverage of 8%...
 
8:54 AM
libdns doesn't have tests at all I assume
 
does anyone here use containers for dependency injection? i.e. use the container to - pre instantiate - dependencies and pass them into a constructor when creating new objects. Im wondering if its common practice to unit test the containers themselves?
 
That's not really dependency injection what you are doing
Well it is, but in a really broken way
In 99.999% of the cases you don't pass the container around
 
Anyone watch Silicon Valley?
 
Tried first two episodes. Hated it :)
 
Watch Peep Show -_-
 
8:57 AM
Watched first n episodes and forgot about it.
That's often a bad sign :P
 
You're a bad sign
 
:P
 
:D
 
@PeeHaa ok - maybe I should have said " instantiate on demand"? either way , new up the dependencies - which themselves may have their own dependencies, using a container where the container doesn't get passed around but just returns the dependencies. is it common to unit test these containers?
 
Yes
 
9:01 AM
@the_velour_fog Yes, a couple of people in here use Auryn.
 
@the_velour_fog yes
 
I was just going to write my own simple container. I see auryn already has unit tests - which would save having to write those myself
 
@the_velour_fog There's no reason to write your own, except for learning purposes maybe.
 
Also... Auryn is awesome.
 
9:17 AM
it looks like Auryn can create dependencies from typehints?
 
@the_velour_fog type declarations, yes
 
posted on June 17, 2017

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
whats this?

$injector = new Auryn\Injector;
$obj1 = new SomeNamespace\MyClass;
$obj2 = $injector->make('SomeNamespace\MyClass');

Can Auryn make a dependency without you having to register it into the container?
 
9:45 AM
@the_velour_fog Yes, if all parameters have default values or are themselves creatable.
 
9:59 AM
@kelunik wow yeah I just `composer require rdlowrey/auryn` a new project and ran this:
<?php
require_once('vendor/autoload.php');
class MyClass { public function foo() { echo "bar baz"; } }
$injector = new Auryn\Injector;
$obj2 = $injector->make('MyClass');
$obj2->foo(); // output "bar baz"
yeah thats cool :)
 
10:32 AM
@the_velour_fog btw you might want to check out the delegate functionality for creating classes, where there is a tiny bit of logic needed to create the class.
Jul 28 '16 at 12:44, by Danack
function createLibratoConfig(Config $config) {
    return new LibratoConfig(
        $config->getKey(Config::LIBRATO_KEY),
        $config->getKey(Config::LIBRATO_USERNAME),
        $config->getKey(Config::LIBRATO_STATSSOURCENAME)
    );
}

$injector->delegate(LibratoConfig::class, 'createLibratoConfig');
 
10:42 AM
@DaveRandom ping
 
@Danack thanks, yes I need to do something like this for my `PDOConnect` class, which allows me to swap between sqlite and mysql

    function createPDOConnector(Config $config) {
        return new \PDO(
    		$config->get_db_dsn(),
    		$config->get_db_username(),
    		$config->get_db_password()
        );
    }

    $injector->delegate(PDOConnector::class, 'createPDOConnector');
 
s/$this->/$/ probably - but yes that is what makes setting up applications with Auryn so nice.
 
ah thanks,
does all the "automagic" stuff, creating dependencies from typehints etc, cause problems with reasoning about the code? e.g. extra complexity or is it like PSR-4 autoloading, you just set it up, and forget about it - and it just makes for one less thing you have to think about?
 
@the_velour_fog it mostly just works and removes a huge amount of complexity, as it makes it so much easier to write SOLID code, that you naturally write code in a good way.
 
type declaration
 
10:55 AM
@the_velour_fog However, there are some advanced cases - where you can't know all the dependencies ahead of time where it reveals that your application is lacking a required capability - blog.basereality.com/blog/15/Stop_trying_to_force_interfaces
 
me nods
 
yeah thats the kind of thing I worried about. I would guess you would be ok if you just use the delegate method to hard code the dependency creation, rather than leave it to Auryn to try and work it out?
hah, from http://blog.basereality.com/blog/15/Stop_trying_to_force_interfaces

> This is known as [Yo' Dawgging](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yo+Dawg) as in "Yo dawg, I heard yo like coding so we put a language in yo language so yo can code while yo code."
 
11:17 AM
@the_velour_fog yes. I think it's fine to put any kind of hack in the bootstrap layer of the application. I quite strongly split my application into two types of code: 1) good code that sits in the middle of the application, uses types everywhere and is completely unit tested 2) Stuff that is at the borders of the application (either coming in to setup the application, going out to talk to external services) where the code doesn't really use types, and isn't unit tested at all.
 
11:29 AM
makes sense, well im off to bed now. I'll look into it tomorrow
 
11:57 AM
> Every time you ignore Loose Coupling a little donkey dies
 
I am trying to clone my ubuntu to a new SSD I added in my laptop, anyone willing to help?
 
you must be desperate to come to me room11 gif
 
Wes
12:24 PM
how about this shading? cc @PeeHaa
 
Can I see a smaller version?
 
12:39 PM
 
@bwoebi travis-ci.org/amphp/amp/jobs/243972400 < Can you have a look, please?
Nevermind, I think you already fixed that, but Travis' nightly isn't up to date, their support has a new message. :)
 
Anonymous
12:59 PM
@Wes omg! It was an elephant all long!?
 
Wes
eat a bowl of dingleberries @JayIsTooCommon
 
lol
@Wes I think I like it
 
splfileobject lock and unavailable FCLOSE, REMOVE file. – #74772
 
user image
5
 
people start playing with framework first then grasp basic of language...
:P
 
https://t.co/ChGCqpTvKL
 
@pmmaga Any job description that quotes years of experience is by a hiring manager that has no idea what experience is...
 
@ircmaxell true that
ohh.. it's actually from SO: stackoverflow.com/jobs/146072/…
 
> Hours:

- Willing to work 45 hours per week
How about you fucking place another job ad
> Senior/Lead PHP Engineer £20k - 30k
wtf is up with people
 
@PeeHaa Is that in England? English managers are bad at maths.
 
1:20 PM
It's in fucking london
 
Even. Better.
 
Although they say they do remote
But still :P
 
@PeeHaa is that less or more ?
 
@Linus That's waaaay too low
 
Wes
ahem. i need to divide a segment of length 9 into 7 segments. i need to place 6 points on it using a logarithmic scale, where the curve is a quarter of a circle circumference sketchtoy.com/68162595
i failed at school, life, everything
 
1:24 PM
Was that even English?
 
Wes
> i failed at school, life, everything
 
Same brofist
 
Wes
:(
where are the Bobs when you need one
 
Just summon him. Surely he is at his screen :-)
 
@Wes you can find log value of number on x axis and then plot result?
 
Wes
1:30 PM
kelunik solved it already. and yes, it was easy
 
oh you want programtically :P
 
Wes
it's the same :B
 
Anyone know if there's a limit how deeply nested traits u can have?
 
You are doing it wrong
 
I dont care of style opinions i choose traits, so my question stands - anyone know if there's a limit or is there no actual depth limitation.
 
1:39 PM
I don't care about giving people a knife when they don't know how to handle it :-)
 
fuck off
 
a bold strategy.
 
:)
 
:)
 
Wes
@Eddie i am a fan of traits. i use and abuse them. but nesting traits at the point that you wonder if there's a depth limit is certainly a sign that you are something that you could do in a different way
 
1:42 PM
Nope
It's just style
You are being ignorant blanket
weeeeeh
 
Could anyone pull github.com/amphp/file and see if the tests pass?
 
sure
 
Hello ,should my model take care of scraped data(will be connected to an api for handling it)?
 
Working fine locally (except for one UV test), but totally failing on Travis.
 
Does that mean skinny controllers fat models?
 
1:44 PM
Oh I don't having uv here atm :(
 
@PeeHaa Just run the other tests, no uv is fine
 
oh k
moment
 
More interested in the parallel tests and testMkdirRmdir.
 
0.2 branch I assume?
 
jup
 
1:49 PM
yep fails
1) Amp\File\Test\BlockingDriverTest::testMkdirRmdir
Failed asserting that 511 is identical to 420.

D:\Web\file\test\DriverTest.php:229
D:\Web\file\vendor\amphp\amp\lib\Coroutine.php:53
D:\Web\file\vendor\amphp\amp\lib\Success.php:33
D:\Web\file\vendor\amphp\amp\lib\Coroutine.php:93
D:\Web\file\test\BlockingDriverTest.php:9
D:\Web\file\vendor\amphp\amp\lib\Loop\Driver.php:112
D:\Web\file\vendor\amphp\amp\lib\Loop\Driver.php:70
D:\Web\file\vendor\amphp\amp\lib\Loop.php:53
D:\Web\file\test\BlockingDriverTest.php:10
woops. sorry room :p
 
@PeeHaa This is a job spec I wrote last week and just published yesterday. Does it look ok? boards.greenhouse.io/lingolive/jobs/731976#.WUUzwmjysUE
 
Yes. I wish all of them were written like that. Only thing I am missing though is the pay or some indication of an amount
 
@PeeHaa So it's failing for you, too.
 
yeap
@kelunik Anything else I can do?
 
@PeeHaa Sure, debug why it's failing :P
 
1:55 PM
I knew that was coming :P
I am sorry to tell you I can hardly read my screen because of the sun right now :P
 
mornings
 
Speaking of the job @ircmaxell you made peace yet with rails?
 
^ lol
 
Morning @RonniSkansing o/
 
\o
woke up at 3:30 PM went to bed.. duno
 
1:57 PM
:P
 
@PeeHaa yeah, was debating putting salary, but we're still figuring out bands and such. I have a budget for it, but not quite willing to publish yet
 
Drinking / coding / hacking?
 
@PeeHaa nope...
 
@PeeHaa yes
 
@ircmaxell :(
@RonniSkansing All three 3? \o/
 
1:58 PM
I spent a day debugging something the team couldn't fix for literally a year (they pourd hundreds of hours debugging it), and it turned out it was because someone defined Nil.upcase()...
I nearly screamed when I found it
 
lol
 
Swap the drinking with something else
(=
 
I love the theory of ruby. I hate it in practice
I feel it's just like C++. Really powerful and gives you a ton of options. But in practice if you use more than about 14% of that power you're going to get yourself into a metric shit-ton of trouble
 
The theory behind it being build things fast and if it works great?
ah I see
 
no, I mean the mutability and total lack of types
 
2:00 PM
Yeah sucks
 
(and the way it handles variables, scope, state, etc
 
@ircmaxell all the power of C++, with all the safeguards of C ... but with ducktyping
 
hehehe
 
with all the safeguards of ASM
C at least pretends to defend its type system with compiler warnings
 
it will probably cause some measure of chagrin, that someone, who was PHP developer for more than a decade, found that bug
 
2:20 PM
@Wes you have birthday today?
 
oooooh looks like it
Buon compleanno tuti pasta @Wes \o/
 
Happy birthday @Wes ;)
15
 
Happy Birthday @Wes :)
@PeeHaa Could you modify github.com/amphp/parallel/blob/… and dump the exception there?
 
Wrong SCRIPT_NAME with Tomcat and CGIServlet – #74773
 
sec
lol
couple more secs
> PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted
uhhhhhhm
> [PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 1073741824 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 532692992 bytes) in D:\Web\file\vendor\amphp\parallel\lib\Worker\AbstractWorker.php on line 39]
[PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 1073741824 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 532676587 bytes) in Unknown on line 0]
 
2:34 PM
Moar memz
 
@PeeHaa Is that the error or does the parent process exit with that then?
 
That's me trying to dump the exception during the test
 
How did you try that?
 
Something something recursion?
 
Just try a fputs(STDERR, get_class($exception) . ": " . $exception->getMessage() . PHP_EOL);
 
2:41 PM
oh you just want the message?
 
Would be a first step :D
 
:-)
> Amp\Parallel\ContextException: The context stopped responding, potentially due to a fatal error or calling exit
Well that is useless
 
Ok, then same with $exception->getPrevious() please
 
> Amp\Parallel\Sync\ChannelException: The channel closed. Did the context die?
> [PHP Notice: Undefined variable: handle in D:\Web\file\test\HandleTest.php on line 103]
[Uncaught Error in D:\Web\file\test\HandleTest.php on line 103]
Error: Call to a member function close() on null in D:\Web\file\test\HandleTest.php:103
That the next previous one before that
 
Now we have a helpful one :D
 
2:49 PM
:P
yay for hiding usefull messages deep in the stack \o/
 
<3
 
3:07 PM
@PeeHaa Wait, it's not really helpful, it's just open throwing.
 
oh
 
@PeeHaa Can you put a \sleep(60) where you dumped the exception and see if any amp-worker process is still alive?
 
Going to get food now. Will do afterwards
 
I'm running php's built-in web server on a VM, I want to access localhost:8000 from my host machine. I know it requires port forwarding, but I don't know what to put.
 
3:33 PM
@PeeHaa Do you have pthreads installed?
@bwoebi Getting the following error with UV enabled only:
Starting test 'Amp\Parallel\Test\Forking\ForkTest::testExitingContextOnSend'.
[PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 1073741824 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 65536 bytes) in /home/kelunik/GitHub/amphp/parallel/vendor/amphp/amp/lib/Loop/UvDriver.php on line 53]
 
@Tiffany Why?
 
Why what?
 
Why are you using PHPs built in web server?
 
Do you have your VMs IP?
 
3:39 PM
yes
 
Which is?
 
10.0.2.15
I was using a VM with Apache for the tutorial, but came to a part where the page wouldn't load, Patrick said it's because I need to use the builtin web server
that's the "why"
 
Fair enough. What you running the VM on?
 
You do this part? "add this to your hosts file: 192.168.7.7 php7dev" ?
 
Anonymous
3:44 PM
Might be a little too much, but still ... I was pissed. i.stack.imgur.com/7wAFh.png
 
doh
no I didn't, I'll do that
sorry, that's what I get for not reading everything on the page >.>
 
Open notepad as adminstrator
Open: C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts
add to the bottom
192.168.7.7 php7.dev
go to php7.dev:8000
 
not loading
do I need to do anything in virtualbox to make it work?
 
@samayo they also seem to require "Object Oriented Java" ... also "MapReduce"
 
So you've added it to the hosts file? php7.dev
 
3:53 PM
yes
# vagrant php-7
192.168.7.7 php7.dev
 
and this is in your vagrant file? config.vm.network "private_network", ip: "192.168.7.7"
 
Evening room
 
let me check
 
config.vm.network "public_network", type: "dhcp"
config.vm.network "private_network", ip: "192.168.7.7"
 
nope, not in the vagrant file
 
3:54 PM
Perhaps you should go back and follow the tutorial fully before asking what's wrong -_-
 
Anonymous
@tereško lol .. didn't even see that.
 
Anonymous
@Tiffany Why do you even need Vagrant?
 
@samayo it's easier, because I'm still having trouble setting up my own VM and I just want to finish this tutorial
 
Anonymous
What happened to your last setup? I thought it was working fine
 
I've had bad luck with the vagrant get started guide, was going through it once and the port forwarding wasn't working right through the vagrant file. But I'll go through it again.
it's not finished
I have like five VMs set up right now x_x
and my headphones are fucking borked
Sorry @Fabor, thank you for your help. I'll mess with it some more.
 
4:03 PM
@Tiffany It seems frustrating at first but well worth getting past the difficulty. VMs are useful because you can just tear them down and start fresh
 
posted on June 17, 2017 by kelunik

- Fixed warning on already closed resources.

 
I originally had time to work on this, then like eight different things were thrown at me, so it goes on the back burner again
 
4:16 PM
sorry, just pissed, the sound in my headset went out in one ear piece at random, and I can't figure out why, and I'm pissed because this headset is barely six months old. I have a pair of Sennheiser headphones that STILL work after seven years.
But I don't have a microphone
 
Anonymous
4:35 PM
this better be gold plated headphone shop.musix.ch/en/…
 
Two segfaults in one build, yay. travis-ci.org/amphp/parallel/jobs/244017582#L404-L418 @bwoebi
 
@kelunik nope
 
user1804599
$requestURI = explode('/', $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']); 🤡
 
1 hour ago, by PeeHaa
Going to get food now. Will do afterwards
 
Yep. Gimme 5 and I will run it
 
4:43 PM
5
 
5
 
:P
 
🤣
!!dad
 
What do you call a deer with no eyes? No idea
 
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