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Wes
Wes
00:48
i'm having dejavu's all the time @kelunik i think i did one particular bit at least ten times :B
 
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Wes
Wes
02:12
moar coffee
@FélixGagnon-Grenier around?
Wes
Wes
02:44
i.imgur.com/hloikzA.png with no bg here
Add support for the document-style WSDL bindings – #74765
 
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04:51
@Wes all i see now is an open lobster claw
Wes
Wes
buy a pair of glasses
posted on June 16, 2017

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

monring
posted on June 16, 2017 by trowski

Initial release for Amp v2.0. API has changed dramatically. Please see the documentation.

mornin
05:09
hello everyone
Wes
Wes
05:39
improved shading
moroniniononen o/
06:27
@Wes ++
@Wes #009688
Wes
Wes
@Saitama
Could you make the elephphant that color? :P ^^ :B
or... #48F2E2
Wes
Wes
that's too dark
i can use the same hue tho
because otherwise you won't see the eye
06:33
mm looks nice to me...
Wes
Wes
@Saitama wat
Error building Opcache as an additional module – #74766
can i ask a question here?
mornin
@VinceGraphic don't ask to ask, just ask
@Wes we can choose colors? #ff69b4 :)
07:05
Hello!
in WP, I want to add that rtl.css file, as they explain here:
https://codex.wordpress.org/Right-to-Left_Language_Support
so I created that file in theme base folder, what else should I do to make it work?
Wes
Wes
shouldn't you modify an existing theme?
mornings
@Naruto i like magenta/pink
@Wes or just not use wordpress at all, surely?
Wes
Wes
not sure @kelunik will like it :B
just delete wp :)
@Wes I thought you would
07:08
@Wes Not for the logo :P
We can have that for the bird. :P
can someone help me with this shitty wordpress shit?
can't believe people actually use it as platform for their websites :D
@Wes This blue is best :) Green sucks
Although purple is the PHP colour
@Mr.Noob people do all sorts of crazy shit with it
07:11
@Jimbo It's Amp, but PHP itself :P
:D those idiots
Lastly I heard someone wanted to setup 5000 EC2 instances with WP for content marketing :D
i think you know your ISP provided router is shit, when a 900M file copy between two laptops ~5M from the router says it will take 10 minutes.
would be better if he could donate all this money to some charity
Well he was payed for fast ranking positioning with this.
07:14
@brzuchal i'm aware of of a very major tv company in the US that was considering using WP as a "front end" for users to generate content, which would be fed via a custom JSON exporter, into a different CMS (Alfresco) which would then generate static html pages to be deployed.
i instantly became a "white girl" (aka valley girl) because i just couldn't even.
the funny thing is that wp is not even good for blog site its too heavy...
Anyone know if there's a coding standard that requires { to be on the line after if / switch statements (specifically for PHPCS)
07:16
Happy friday o/
yeah, it should be burned and bury, but then PHP market would drastically decrease
\o
there is Laravel
@Mr.Noob yeah, and it should be burned and bury before WP
Wordpress ashes on top
07:17
:D why?
We really need a !!canon for this
Please stop talking about Laravel on this channel
@Jimbo heathen
why?
I thought its super ultra good framework?
best of the best
@brzuchal shall we discuss Cake, or CodeIgniter instead?
07:18
@Mr.Noob exactly opposite of it
< evil laughing now (on the inside)
haha
so what framework to use?
oh oh. Joomla.
jesus don't take that seriously.
that was a joke
the most important question is what do you need a framework for
07:19
alternative for laravel for example
currently I dont need any framework I am already suffering with wp
but I thought laravel is ultra good framework
@kelunik yeah this is magical question
@brzuchal No, that's the answer.
what you use?
07:21
@Mr.Noob Symfony
Components
Personally I prefer using Symfony Components
Amp is a valid use case for a framework. :D
@kelunik yeah Laravel is kinda magic framework, all those facades are horrible
@PeeHaa oh seriously i thought it's thursday today :P
@brzuchal I heard you can even have them dynamically now.
07:23
OMFG
@kelunik the funny thing about these laravel people is how they market even the tiniest unspectactular and boring old things as if it was some sort of new sliced bread… in addition to all the things they do wrong of course.
idk if I would build something I would use CI or build my own helpers
@Gordon I want to liken them to apple, except apple aren't complete assholes about it
I wouldnt be surprised if there was a blog post announcing how laravel rediscovered the if to branch on conditions.
Don't show them runkit...
07:27
the laraif(expr, callable iftrue, callable iffalse)
@Jimbo Ther might be some message from @Jeeves like when someone links w3schools.com
@brzuchal W3Schools should not be trusted as a reliable resource. Click here to read why.
@brzuchal I don't think so.
@Jimbo yeah, I dont know why they are doing php when its clear they want to do ruby
@Jimbo Why not? :D
@Gordon He used to do ruby
@kelunik They'll start redefining inbuilt functions
07:30
@Jimbo explains a lot. also his DHH fanboism
@Jimbo Emulate mbstring.func_overload probably, yes. :P
laravel devs makes money from it?
I mean all this open source projects make money?
Wes
Wes
nobody makes money in programming
so WP released for free, and some noob "dev" comes and opens "web dev" company and build sites to people and charge money for it ( a lot of money) and all he does is using wp?
07:34
@Mr.Noob taylor and his inner circle marketing laravel make money from it
how?
@Mr.Noob mainly through courses and conferences
@Mr.Noob also, the people getting rich from wordpress development are few
few?
07:37
o/ @Gordon
50-200$ for plugin
@Mr.Noob few as in not many
Rich is also a broad term.
07:39
@Oldskool Still Alive?
@Mr.Noob You don't get rich from that.
WP feeds hundreds of thousands world wide
What do you mean by that?
@Mr.Noob yes, but you can setup a complete site with lots of plugins and themes without paying a dime for it
on a completely unrelated side note: my Awful Fantasy: Base Game has been shipped \o/
you made it?
07:43
made what?
ah you ordered it and it was shipped?
yes, was a kickstarter campaign: kickstarter.com/projects/awfulfantasy/…
A comedy card game where players take the role of authors competing to be the first to finish the next awful fantasy novel.
can someone help me with this WP problem I have?
or I will go to their office and destroy all their hardware
which country is it btw?
I like it!
@Mr.Noob I'd recommend asking on the main StackOverflow site, or...
!!wordpress
07:54
Click that ^
there is wp chat here?
Wes
Wes
@kelunik can i add a piercing on the ear. pleaseplaseplease
:B
multitasking != async?
@Wes To make it look like @JoeWatkins?
Wes
Wes
07:56
ahaha
@Mr.Noob Does it say that they're the same?
Wes
Wes
can't wait to add the bird :B
Doesn't even imply it
@Mr.Noob Well, they're related, but not the same.
Multitasking PHP sounds better than async multitasking php
AMP devs visit this chat?
Anonymous
07:58
moing sisters
@Mr.Noob All here.
Anonymous
@Wes Still quid / dolphin / moustache but looks quite nice either way
@Mr.Noob The name won't change.
@JayIsTooCommon Shut up!
Anonymous
:O
@kelunik you are AMP dev?
08:00
Can someone make me RO to kick @JayIsTooCommon? :D
@Mr.Noob yes
hello
can anyone help me with this
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Q: Error: Apache shutdown unexpectedly. Port using the 80 is **system**

Pure Rhymer Organization15:28:54 [Apache] Error: Apache shutdown unexpectedly. 15:28:54 [Apache] This may be due to a blocked port, missing dependencies, 15:28:54 [Apache] improper privileges, a crash, or a shutdown by another method. 15:28:54 [Apache] Press the Logs button to view error logs and check 15:28:54...

Wes
Wes
Can someone make @kelunik room owner, also
Anonymous
fine.. I won't give constructive feedback anymore, i'll just lie.
Anonymous
@Wes WOWZAS WES! That's AMAZING you BEAUTIFUL Italian stallion you.
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08:02
@JayIsTooCommon Constructive feedback is fine, but saying it looks like a squid just makes @Wes demotivated. :D
Wes
Wes
@JayIsTooCommon you joked so much on that that i fail to recognize if you are still joking or not
how the hell does that look like a squid
There should definitely be a spin-off to the PSR-2 guide, specifically for control statement braces being on the same line #php
I told him to draw elephant with small wings
it doesnt look like a squid. but it's ear looks like the beak of a parrot
Well... now it's on Reddit. redd.it/6hl2wb
08:04
@Jimbo why?
but you have huge competition no?
@Jimbo They are on the same line?
@Gordon I really prefer putting { on the next line, that's simply it. It keeps everything more separated, and the { and } are always inline
@Mr.Noob Do we?
idk...
Wes
Wes
08:05
@kelunik do you want a temporary logo, meanwhile i finish the vectors?
Which packages do you see as competition? :P
@Jimbo so why would we need a spin-off just to meet your preference then?
So we can say "we follow this open source standard - not just one I made up"
That's the only reason why people use PSR-2, because other people do
@Jimbo maybe you need to embrace the idea that PSR standards aren't fucking gospel, and this isn't a church.
@Wes No, don't want to update all packages twice :D
08:06
@Stephen I already agree with this, but others don't
Anonymous
@Wes Everything from the ear onwards looks awesome to be fair. Just ear is.. hey! And yes i'm sure you are a beautiful italian.
last time I worked with php was 2012... and I used CI.
so I don't know anything that happened since than except php7 released
you pay for cdn?
@Jimbo no, they follow it because it frees them from arguing with their coworkers about their preferences :)
@Jimbo Fuck others. So long as you're writing code that can be read, what benefit does "follows a completely arbitrary style guide that was simply the result of 'most common' amongst major framework developers at the time" have?
Wes
Wes
@JayIsTooCommon ear is folded and i want to keep the spiral
suggest something
Anonymous
08:07
@Jimbo eeewww
Wes
Wes
but it's not gonna work imo
@Gordon Fair point
This is what I'm coming up against
Team would rather follow a standard that already exists - tbf it doesn't add business value me creating another one
Anonymous
@Wes I dunno, i'm no artist (sketch.io/render/sk-9f45a16aca65d54616c7500ea5d213cb.jpeg). I'll stop giving feedback ok.. It's great, just ship it.
So I'm going against what I want to do. Shit, that's weird
@JayIsTooCommon Better a squid than a penis. :P
08:09
morniung
Anonymous
Why does everyone think my elephant is a penis.
@Mr.Noob You mean for amphp.org?
08:11
@Jimbo i gave up any hope of PSR making 'sane' decisions when the Log level constants were made strings.
Functions and control structures must use Allman style braces.
shit
but also "Indent with tabs, align with spaces."
LOL
That's not serious is it?
it has not date on it saying april, 1st, so I guess that's real
08:13
well, they changed it for 5.x
I'm happy we follow PSR-2 with braces on the same line, always.
they use styleci.io to make it automatic
shitting on the coding style is really falling low.
lol. 10 bucks per month for an automatic style fixer… ROFL
it's cheap?
08:15
It's paid
whats an "Alman style" brace?, is it like this?
function go()
{
// ...
}
point ---->
I suppose that it brings something over free solutions
Anonymous
Probably paying off taylor
08:16
In computer programming, an indent style is a convention governing the indenting of blocks of code to convey program structure. This article largely addresses the free-form languages, such as C and its descendants, but can be (and often is) applied to most other programming languages (especially those in the curly bracket family), where whitespace is otherwise insignificant. Indent style is only one aspect of programming style. Indenting is not a requirement of most programming languages, where it is used as secondary notation. Rather, indenting helps better convey the structure of a program to...
thanks @Gordon
@FlorianMargaine yeah, I guess, it brings money for those exploiting those unable to just make this part of a commit hook
@Gordon I suspect, that they get it for free in exchange for having that paragraph in the official documentation
@tereško morning
@tereško oh well, IDC… if there is one thing I've learned not to care about then it's coding styles. if it was for me, we can all write right aligned code… as long as everyone on the project does it
08:19
@Gordon I'm sick of the free bashing anything laravel gets these days, for completely stupid reasons. Bash the technical decisions? Sure. Bash the man because he has stupid reactions? Ok, why not. Bash normal things just because? Yeah, that's what I'm getting sick of.
@Gordon exactly.
@FlorianMargaine yeah, me too. Wasn't bashing though. Jimbo asked for Allman style braces and I just informed him about Laravel having (or had) this
moin
happy rebeccaday
mornes
The laravel world
Developers are getting stuck with frameworks
Tomorrow they will use Laravel sun glasses
PHP has perfectly fine php.net/sunglasses
5
08:30
LOL
320 million views - thats amazing
Anonymous
@JayIsTooCommon That's just insane. Funny how it has more thumbs down than it has thumbs up though :')
LOLOLOLOL
Everything about view
@JayIsTooCommon hah more thumb downs - most people are watching it sarcastically - like the way I use phpstorm
08:48
Hello All.
Anyone have ready to use Yii2 Advanced admin template with RBAC system?
AFAIK, nobody here uses Yii2
Have you any idea which group can help me?
Anonymous
@SahilPatel #yii IRC
If anyone have then please let me know.
Thank you
Every time I change code in a project, I never stage and commit right away - I kind of let the code "simmer" for a few days. And then if Im still happy with I commit into version control. I find sleeping on it for a few days then reviewing and committing improves the quality of the code I commit. does any one else do this?
09:01
Morning r11!!!!
@the_velour_fog Depends how large the changes are.
09:09
o/
And moving away towards node :P
Just for comparison, Stack Overflow can run on just one server.
lol riiiiiiiiiite
@PeeHaa The important point is that it works :D
Let me find an article from 10 years ago too for reference :D
@kelunik does amp provide some sort of scoreboard like fpm to get metrics out of it?
09:17
@kelunik True :)
@Gordon There's Loop::getInfo()
Aerys has a Monitor interface, but that needs a rewrite probably.
that all requires being inside the loop, right? I'd like something I can query from the outside
Anonymous
@kelunik that must feel good :)
@kelunik well, artax
09:37
Is it worth it to omit attributes in a json response to reduce size? for instance instead of ['name' => 'some data', 'expiration_date' => 'some date', ... etc] change it to ['some data', 'some date', ... etc]` I mean using the index instead? the first format is prettier and easier to read
The attributes however keep repeating for say 10000+ records so it seems like a waste of bandwidth?
Anonymous
hmm calling void methods which terminate execution (with an exit etc..), is it smelly to return those calls for readability?
@Gordon then just expose it the way you like
@kelunik can we have it as a default route?
@Gordon in Aerys you mean?
@FlorianMargaine Good enough
@kelunik in whatever is the thing where I define routes
09:47
@kelunik he means something like /server-status
correct
Yes, guessed that, no. We won't expose details unless you tell explicitly
which probably should be handled in the master process
at least, the metrics should be there
We could expose it on a Unix socket
Anonymous
09:52
@kelunik on 127.0.0.1 sounds better
It's often behind a proxy and likely exposed then without the user knowing
@FlorianMargaine no, not by default
PHP is PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor. What the hell? Why PHP long term also have PHP?
@DamithRuwan it's a recursive acronym :)
it looks better than Personal Home Page tbf
Anonymous
!!wiki recursive acronym
A recursive acronym is an acronym that refers to itself. The term was first used in print in 1979 in Douglas Hofstadter's book Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid, in which Hofstadter invents the acronym GOD, meaning "GOD Over Djinn", to help explain infinite series, and describes it as a recursive acronym. Other references followed, however the concept was used as early as 1968 in John Brunner's science fiction novel Stand On Zanzibar. In the story, the acronym EPT (Education for Particular Task) later morphed into "Eptification for Particular Task". Recursive acronyms typically form...
Wes
Wes
09:54
i.imgur.com/kXSnB6t.png vectors bitches
illustrator sucks with dashed lines... good thing i never use them

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