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11:01 AM
room11tube .. lemme know if you want to put something up.
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@PaulCrovella /me looks at the calendar
What do you think we need to put up there...
 
Awesome \o/ @PaulCrovella
 
I may do some stuff ... producing video content is very time consuming though ...
 
Wes
i'd start with rebecca
!!rebecca
 
11:03 AM
lol I was suppose to say this @Wes
 
there was an idea to do hangouts a while ago, we done one or two I think ... maybe we should put real effort into doing weekly ones of those or something ... with actual topics ...
 
@Wes I'd rather not start with a copyright strike, but the sentiment is shared.
 
(and blackjacks and hookers)
 
@JoeWatkins if you just want to do some screen recording, talking over slides or something, it's pretty easy to use obs
 
haven't got any slides ready, but will have a look at that ...
> obs-studio : Depends: libfdk-aac0 (>= 0.1.1) but it is not installable
or not ...
 
11:10 AM
fdk?
foftware development kit?
Computer programs from the colonial era
 
I managed it ...
 
By invading a newly discovered land mass?
 
by installing the first deb I could find that seemed to match the description of required lib ... like a boss ...
at a glance, the thing wants to record black squares ... not sure why that is ... will have a play over the weekend to see if I can get it to work ...
one does not just install video related software in linux ...
 
@JoeWatkins you do have to tell it what you want it to capture (individual window, screen, whatever).. you'll figure it out
 
I tried fiddling for a minute, but other people are in my face about stuff right now and can't really concentrate on it
 
11:21 AM
if/when you want to upload directly to it i'll need an email address of yours to add you as a manager.. i'm presuming it'll need to be an address associated with a youtube account. can give it to me here or send it to my firstname.lastname at gmail
 
name of most dangerous extension in the world at name of most dangerous extension in the world dot org
 
uopz?
 
haha, no
the threading one
 
i guess that's debatable, but okay.
 
@Wes because of the loop problem
 
11:26 AM
sent
 
Wes
@bwoebi which is?
 
o/
What's wrong with: kbc.be/proces/aanmelden/bankieren-op-je-pc.html?zone=topnav Seems there's no 'green light' anymore in the address bar.. something wrong with their SSL cert?
 
@Wes for ($i = 0; $i < 10; $i++) installCallback($x -> [$x, $i]);
 
@PaulCrovella cool
 
' Certificate Error There are issues with the site's certificate chain (net::ERR_CERT_UNABLE_TO_CHECK_REVOCATION). '
Not cool for a online banking website imo
 
Wes
11:29 AM
@bwoebi god
why not let people decide what to do in that case? eg $a = $i
 
@Wes how does $a = $i help?
 
Hi guys
I am working on select2 plugin and this is my code

var isOpenedSelect = false;
var currentElement = '';
    $(".select-arrow").on("click", function () {
        currentElement = $(this).children("select").attr("id");
        if (isOpenedSelect === false) {
            $(currentElement).select2('open');
            isOpenedSelect = true;
        } else {
            isOpenedSelect = false;
            $(currentElement).select2('close');
        }
    });

this is not working $(currentElement).select2('open');
 
Wes
for($i = 0; $i < 10; $i++){
    installCallback(fn($x) => { $a = $i; [$x, $a]; });
}
for($i = 0; $i < 10; $i++){
    installCallback(fn($x) => [$x, $a = $i]);
}
dunno if this works
 
@Wes uh, $a = $i will also only be called at the end, when $i is already 10
 
@Duikboot Chrome version?
 
11:34 AM
what'd work is (fn($i) => fn($x) => [$x, $i])($i) … but that's horrible
 
Wes
yeah @bwoebi god
 
many many thanks to so happy today for getting my first job.I am very thankful to each and every person of room :)
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@Linus you're welcome. now where's our cut.
 
How?
 
Wes
actually no @bwoebi i had a brainfart. that's how it should work :|
 
11:39 AM
Great.. Congratulations !! @Linus
 
lol @Paul, gratz @Linus
 
thanks Joe,Paul ,Akshay
@PaulCrovella :D
 
@Linus congratulations
 
@Exception thanks
 
@Linus what will you be doing?
 
11:42 AM
@Wes you want to make channel icon/art for r11's new porn site youtube channel? guidelines/templates available here
 
@tereško :D very sad about that i have to do laravel
 
Wes
@bwoebi
var a = [];
function installCallback(fn){ a.push(fn); };
for(var i = 0; i < 10; i++){
    (function(i){
        installCallback(function(){ return i; });
    })(i);
}
for(var x = 0; x < a.length; x++){
    console.log(a[x]());
}
 
@Linus well ... look at it as a necessary evil in order to populate the "experience" section of your CV
 
@Wes yes, that's what I mean with (fn($i) => ...)($i) … it's horrible.
 
Wes
it's not horrible @bwoebi
 
11:44 AM
@Wes it is.
I've wasted enough debugging time in JS with it.
 
but I was actually interested in the type of work you will be doing: web agency, IT department of a company, startup ?
 
@tereško :P i will not mention that.
@tereško startup
 
in that case, your primary concern should be having a good "exit strategy"
 
@Linus I think a tithe is reasonable. (joking, in case not obvious)
 
11:46 AM
from my personal experience, those things are always volatile
 
well i can't find any other job because i have no degree so for some time being.
@DaveRandom :)
 
that's all right
 
@Linus Gratz! \o/
 
Wes
@bwoebi example? you are making a big mistake here, imho. i don't have the energies nor the knowledge to explain why. in my own experience and my way of doing things scope sharing (or whatever you call it) is crucial. people will complain about it and it will be too late to change it
 
thnaks PeeHaa \o/
 
11:51 AM
@Wes I mean with exact these things like forgetting to wrap it into a (fn($i) => …)($i)
 
what I am saying is that with a startup you should be always be prepared, that everything can go tits up
 
@Wes also note that short closures are single expression … If we'd have multi-expr, I'd see your concern
 
yeah true
@tereško well for now what i am worried about is some work of frontend and never worked under pressure while they put on me today while offering me job and said this is Probation period.
 
in most jobs you get, you end up on a probation period .. 1-3 months (depending on company)
 
Wes
@bwoebi one way closures. will we have actual closures within the end of the century? :B really_really_actual_closures() => {}
 
11:55 AM
yeah it's 3 month period
 
@Wes no.
 
if you need some help with frontend shit, you can always ask in the chat
 
yeah thanks :)
 
Wes
@bwoebi @LeviMorrison internals is a small group of people. when the feature will reach people that work with languages like js every day, they will complain hard about this. i can't wait to say "i told you". it's not constructive, i know, but i also know i'm not convincing you even if i tried hard
 
@Wes Note that hack also uses by-value and they do not regret it.
 
Wes
12:02 PM
that said, what you are proposing is something. but it's still not closures
 
@PaulCrovella uh.. this room has a yt channel? link?
 
1 hour ago, by Paul Crovella
room11tube .. lemme know if you want to put something up.
 
ey guys
this is my new frydai song
just watch the video 10x times and I think youll be on board
 
@RonniSkansing heathen
 
12:09 PM
@Leigh Versie 55.0.2883.95 (64-bit)
 
@Duikboot Ah ok, some new stuff was introduced into 56 that could effect it
so not that :)
 
Thing is my parents computer had the same issue yesterday ( possible same chrome version )
But someone else tried it .. and had a full green SSL cert
 
Anonymous
@Linus congrats dude =]
 
:) thanks Jay
 
Chrome doesn't work, but firefox gives the correct/valid SSL cert.
 
12:14 PM
@Linus congratz indeed :-)
And happy friday
 
:) thanks Ekin
 
Wes
@Linus congrats :P
 
ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.kbc.be seems they are fine and the problem is mine.
 
:P Thanks Wes
 
Anonymous
!!wotd
 
12:19 PM
cloudland: the sky.
 
Anonymous
...
 
Anonymous
@Jeeves you better be fucking joking...
 
@JayIsTooCommon Why?
 
wtf kind of bullshit word is that supposed to be
 
Right. I want to 'repeat' the signal of a wireless public hotspot from a few streets away. How powerful a router will I need to do this? Antennas this size of @PeeHaa's mom? @DaveRandom can halp me here? :-)
@PaulCrovella Apparently that's from 1810 - 1820
 
Anonymous
12:20 PM
@PaulCrovella it's how vegans refer to the sky
 
Anonymous
:D
 
Isn't cloudland technically Ireland?
 
it sounds more like jeeves is working on bad fiction
 
@Jeeves lol
 
@Linus No lol.
 
12:23 PM
@Jimbo So is there some place in your apartment where you can get good usable signal from it?
 
Directional focus is unlikely to help if you can't get a decent signal somewhere - it would potentially give you better tx
 
Can we make @Jeeves create a room for him and @CapricaSix and then make them talk to each other please?
 
@Gordon Alright well do you like creepypasta?
 
@DaveRandom Zero.
 
12:25 PM
@Jeeves obviously. Else I wouldn't ask for that.
 
@Gordon Wow.
 
@Jimbo classy
 
@Jimbo Then it's a non-starter. I realise this is probably stating the obvious but you can't repeat a signal you don't have
 
@Gordon Cap doesn't really talk back
It's been done before in the sobotics room though
 
@DaveRandom I thought I could get a massive antenna and point it in the direction of it
Data over here, I'm not joking. There's no "unlimited". You can pay 35 euros for 35GB. And that's it
 
12:26 PM
@Jimbo I dont wanna hear about your massive antenna. And don't you even dare pointing that at me.
 
Unlimited is not possible. But there's a free wifi spot a few streets away....
 
@Jimbo unlikely. Even if you could get a signal, the loss rate would be so high that it would be useless
 
That you have 15 minutes free before you pay
:-(
There goes my hobby plan
 
You'd need to put something on the edge of where the signal is usable to repeat it. So if you know someone (possibly several people) that live between you and the AP...
The effective range of WiFi out there will likely be higher than it is in the average UK residential area
Directional antennas might give you a boost but decent ones are pretty expensive and actually installing them is harder that it might seen. You can't just point it in the right general direction and it will work, it usually takes a lot tweaking
 
Gah, I thought it'd be more complicated than I was making out
 
12:31 PM
and if the output power of the AP is not high enough then its a pointless exercise anyway
 
Thought I could buy something a foot long and point it towards it and that'll do
 
@Jimbo do you have line of site to it?
 
@DaveRandom I can secretly get onto the roof and shove something amongst the other ones, so possibly
 
If you can actually see the thing (i.e. there is nothing but atmospheric interference) then you might be in with a shot
 
Yes, this is how desperate I am to get some data allowance...
Oh, no it's not actually visible. It'll be in a building somewhere
I haven't pinpointed the exact location ,just general direction / area
 
12:33 PM
Get up on the roof and see what your laptop can see when you do a scan
 
Nice idea, I'll give it a try
 
@Jimbo you have to install the antenna at the public spot and point it towards you
 
or somehow repeat the signal along the way until it's good enough at your place
 
or that
 
Daisy chaining raspberry pis? :D
 
12:34 PM
pretty much
and hope nobody finds them
 
Hmm, I bet shoving data through them would eat battery so fast they'd have to be plugged in
 
repeaters aint that expensive but they'll need electricity. not sure how feasible it is to get power for them somewhere on the street
 
Solar? It's sunny here. Might have to climb up a few palm trees xD
 
Butchered wall -> usb power supplies, pi zeros with wifi dongles, unscrew wall socket facades and embed within \o/
 
Holy shit that's actually possible
 
12:36 PM
but where would you put it? won't people steal the repeater?
 
Not if I gaffa tape it up a palm tree
 
I am pretty sure if I'd put gaffa taped repeater somewhere on the street it would get removed
 
out of interest, any of your neighbours using WEP? :)
 
Neighbours all old, these are really holiday apartments
So no wifi at all
 
tried airsnort or kismet yet? they might be hidden
 
12:38 PM
could be hidden SSIDs idd
 
I doubt they'd know how to hide the SSIDs
But worth a shot, can I just vagrant those and run them via that?
(On OS X)
 
old people are disgusting
 
@Jimbo their kids might know. you know kids are always the admins of these wifi routers
 
@JoeWatkins young people too
 
I'll give it a shot, but if not, this raspberry pi thing. Let's assume I need 2. Is the latency going to be a complete bitch so online gaming isn't possible?
 
12:40 PM
can't you get a service installed by an isp for the cost of two rpi's ?
 
It's going to be less than ideal, and thats before adverse weather conditions ruin your day
 
@JoeWatkins Not in this building, already tried obvious broadband
And SIM-based data is excruciatingly expensive
 
what about non obvious ones, I found someone doing a really lo-tech line of site radar based supply here ... maybe one of those are around ?
 
You know what you should do...
live somewhere else
 
12:42 PM
what about an unlimited uk sim with some kinda smelly foreigner addon ?
 
@JoeWatkins I found one of those actually. They need permission to put the thing on the roof though (and I've asked the landlord and can't get it as I'm only there for 5 months)
 
sounds easy, just give them permission
 
@JoeWatkins I currently have that on my iPhone, three's "feel at home". With a VPN, I get home-like data speeds. Max usage limit per month abroad is 12GB
 
oh well you don't want to end any contracts early I guess ... why only 5 months ?
 
12:44 PM
@JoeWatkins The owners live in it in July / August (best summer months) and then give it back for rent. Tbh I'm okay with that because it's such a nice place
 
well .. the first thing I need for a place to feel nice is a decent connection to the interwebs
 
... which is exactly why I need to move again
 
palm trees are good, and all ... but not so great at being modems ...
 
Unless you strap a raspberry pi to the top of them
 
maybe you can shop around for a local unlimited mobile tariff ?
 
12:47 PM
@JoeWatkins but they would make awesome antennas
 
!!rfcs
 
Unlimited mobile tariffs literally don't exist here :P
 
no? :(
 
I mean literally
I'm up shit creek
 
@pmmaga slow
@Jimbo that sucks ...
 
> 33.6 Kbps data transfer rate for fast sending and receiving of email
 
you might be too young to remember palm devices
 
Cheers dude!
 
> This item does not ship to SANDOWN, United Kingdom. Please check other sellers who may ship internationally.
 
12:49 PM
\o/
 
maybe you can rent a digger and make your own internet connection ...
 
haha
 
/cc @Danack
What you doing being suggested by Spotify
 
@pmmaga you forgot to link your rfc
 
Damn it
 
12:52 PM
Nov 27 '16 at 11:56, by Jimbo
There's a public WiFi wifi hotspot that I can reach from my flat. It gives 15 minute free WiFi every 24h. As expected, it merely relies on mac address. Currently writing a script that I'll cron every 14 minutes to change mac and click 'I accept' in phantom-js headless :P
This was previous flat
I was hoping to use a repeater for similar
xD
 
that sounds really sucky
 
Script was fun to write though :-)
Proper works too, just disconnects for 30 seconds to reconnect
 
when the owners put the place up for rent again, is it certain you'll get it again ?
 
I entertained the idea of running that on a DDWRT'd router
@JoeWatkins No, but they said I'll get first shot. So it's just their word
 
@NikiC Thanks for the heads up! :)
 
12:54 PM
of all your options, I'd probably just twist their arms (or break them) to get permission for the installation of a proper line ...
just say you'll pay for it in the two months, and get them to sign a thing saying you'll get first refusal ...
 
If you like it that much commit to a longer term up-front? They might be more likely to let you install shit then too
 
when you do give the place up, and they have an internet connection, which seems pretty rare in the area, it means they can ask for a bit more rent I would guess ...
 
Has anyone implemented CSRF tokens in PHP?
 
1:19 PM
@NikiC, it does not throw the warning with the tokenizer. Should I mention it on the RFC itself or replying to you is enough?
I would prefer to not edit the RFC content in this phase.. but it may make sense
wait, my test was bogus..
 
@Jimbo had the same problem in my flat back then: for some unkwown reason, it banned my MAC adress. So I had to change every week or so.
(back then I were on windows :()
 
1:44 PM
Shouldn't we clean up a little the Jeeves's message containing links? We're not [tag:cv-pls]-ing anymore, and we could put a link to the new opengrok.
Like this: [tag:php] [RFC Watch](https://php-rfc-watch.beberlei.de/) [Canonicals](http://room-11.github.io/canonical.html) [OpenGrok](https://opengrok02.lxr.room11.org/source/)
I fucked up something…
 
You didn't
chat MD did as usual
Fine by me btw
!!admin add 7325979
 
"chat MD" sounds like a bad tv show about an even worse doctor
 
@PeeHaa User already on admin list.
 
oh even better you are admin already
@PaulCrovella :D
@PaulCrovella Could have been worse. Chad MD
 
It'd be nice to add lxr to that indeed
 
1:50 PM
How can I change Jeeves's pinned message? !!help say nothing about that
 
Thinking it's some built in thing, but I couldn't find where it is yet
 
Isn't it !!pin?
 
The question could be: how I make Jeeves says something, afaik I can ask him to pin it
 
It'd be nice to add lxr to that indeed
I will keep repinning message #35472446 until someone tells me to stop
 
1:52 PM
!!repin list
 
yeah Repinner
 
Oh, nice
 
!!unpin 35472446
 
4 messages moved to Trash
 
Backlog is dead?
 
wtf, I can't pin?
 
Anybody seen @crypticツ recently?
 
Last try
 
1:54 PM
@Trucy We trained him to ignore french people
 
:P
 
Should I tell her?
:D
 
/me kinda liked the separation btw
 
I should try with !!le-pin
 
1:54 PM
yeah same @Ekin
 
@PeeHaa Only room owners can do it?
 
If you promise to format it better I will tell you what you are doing wrong :D
 
:D
 
Wes
@PeeHaa she was here this morning
 
oh
 
1:55 PM
@Trucy github.com/Room-11/Jeeves/blob/… but it should say something about it
 
something something stupid timezones
@Trucy :P
 
@Jeeves who broke you?
 
@PaulCrovella You.
 
@Jeeves is fine :)
 
1:57 PM
@PeeHaa I like talking to you!
 
Wes
@Jeeves #rekt
 
@Wes Yes.
 
lol
 
Is it le better?
 
s/OpenGrok/lxr
 
1:58 PM
And also maybe add a [tag:so-main] before canonicals
 
^ that
 
Damn woman :P
 
:P
 
And move lxr to the php section
yes we are annoying like that
s/we are/I am
 
now dance for our amusement
 
lol
 
@Trucy And move the pipe to between the php ones
Last thing and then I will tell you :D
promise
 

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