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00:31
@Danack I've had too much fun helping my sister with maths and Latin (yay) … I today was barely at the computer :-/ started a little yesterday but nothing real yet…
Now it's 2:30 and she finally has done most of her homework…
She's very efficient at procrastinating by talking, talking and talking… ^^
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00:47
/me continues to follow back total strangers on twitter. i'm too nice to not do that
hi
anyone here good with php and androidstudio connection ?
 
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02:14
morning v2
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!!eval echo rand(0,1) === 0 ? "rest for a day" : "go jogging";
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will follow the suggestion of 7.0.6 :B
03:33
LAMP development.... does knowing how to use basic Linux commands for app development purposes constitute "Linux administration basics"?
not really
03:53
stackoverflow.com/questions/37105932/… does this question fall under "why isn't this code working?"
04:04
@Wes well played. well played.
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04:43
mornagvbnjk
morningggggggggggg
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hi
was watching cast away :B it's normal that i cry when he loses wilson in the ocean :B
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o/
aww it is :p
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wilsooooooooooooon
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:D
04:56
'nin
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hey joe
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\o
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so the engineer part of me was criticizing forrest gump's raft design, so i searched "how to drill holes in wood without a drill" and now i'm very confused
05:14
dude, it's so monday
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true
You're missing the DOSBox/Turbo C++ world in which int is still very much 16 bits. I hate to say it, but if you're going to write about "today's cross-platform world", you can't ignore the entire Indian subcontinent. — Lightness Races in Orbit 2 days ago
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The entire Indian subcontinent writes code in Turbo C++ targeting DOSBox? Why?immibis yesterday
@immibis: I don't know :( — Lightness Races in Orbit yesterday
05:29
Why? Because unis.
05:44
@AwalGarg ^
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Ugh TIL without swap the cheapest DO droplet might fail on make
@littlepootis because we must keep up our ancient ancestral traditions and cultural values
Guys, I'm just working on banking app stuff
how do you calculate Credit Card Balance Transfer?
For example creditcardfinder.com.au/…
What is formula for
Amount transfer & interest rate & annual fee = interested saved?
06:11
@AwalGarg Tradition gone wrong.
Good morning
I love you little pooptis
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ormin
06:24
> pooptis
06:47
Argh dammit >< Your PhpStorm evaluation has expired :D
o/ morning btw
@JasonMarsh why dont you ask your domain expert?
me too. I love pooptis
@Duikboot mornin'
@Duikboot atom.io
some Unis still use Borland Turbo C
I've had first hand experience. True.
@taco is it at all stable yet?
07:02
Oh @taco Im not a 'atom' fan don't know why but for some reason it made my computer very slow.
afaik atom doesnt have the equivalent of phpstorm's intentions or refactoring feature, so long way to go
Atom is a text editor
I used to use Sublime Text before switching to Atom. It suits me fine.
sublime is atleast fast
@littlepootis that's it's problem ;)
07:05
@taco have you added the minimap-related packages?
Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. Atom is blazing fast for me across 3 work laptops so far.
only reason I use atom sometimes is for its actovate-powe-mode addon
@tereško Nah, I don't like minimaps
meh, if I want a super customisible blazingly fast text editor I use vim
I just use vim
07:06
this ^
@littlepootis Do you vape, too?
Nah, despise vim
only if I knew how to exit
A vegan, perhaps?
@taco I find it really useful in combination with this: atom.io/packages/highlight-selected
07:06
@MadaraUchiha nah, but I use twm
.. sometimes
I've used vi alot as a DC tech. Not a fan
vim is fine for casual editing of config files on the server
But as an actual development tool? Meh
^that
@tereško ah cool
@MadaraUchiha Agreed
You just haven't spent enough time configuring vim :)
07:08
@MadaraUchiha I know people using vim as their main editor and they are quite fast with it
@taco for that you need also minimap and atom.io/packages/minimap-highlight-selected
what @littlepootis said
@Gordon I'm quite fast with intellij too, after a while you catch up with the key bindings and nice capabilities
@Gordon too many shortcuts to remember
07:08
But I don't need to suffer all the way through to that level, though.
@bwoebi You actually only need like 4-5 to be really productive
@SergeyTelshevsky this building needs a bigger internet-pipe
You can turn your vim into an IDE.
at least in most texteditors you see what you can do without remembering shortcuts at all
The rest is for "extra" productive
Or anything for that matter
07:09
@MadaraUchiha sure. But still.
@bwoebi Yup
Moin
I took up vim for a month or two as a trial period
@littlepootis yes, but I have found it to be "too fiddly" for anything but the most basic tasks
That's far more than I'm willing to give any other editor, and I still haven't reached actual productivity with it
07:10
I mostly used vi in disaster recovery
@MadaraUchiha key bindings? why? you just write some nonsense java code with it and then keep hitting alt-enter until the compile errors go away. gotta love intentions.
Mostly in linux safemode or from a video console
@MadaraUchiha did you do vimtutor before you tried vim. It helped me a lot.
@Gordon I did
It's not about knowing the shortcuts
I remember all the shortcuts
It's about knowing when to use each, when is B better than b, and doing it all instinctively
I tried vim for about a month, couldn't get to productivity, not even on par with other tools I don't like very much like geany.
07:12
Because if I need to stop and think about what shortcut I'm about to use as often as I need to use shortcuts, I lose.
I stop and think about shortcuts in intellij every once in a while
But I don't need the shortcuts as often
So it doesn't bother me that much
Well, once you get used to shortcuts they're basically muscle memory
4 mins ago, by little pootis
You just haven't spent enough time configuring vim :)
I am suprised no one mentioned emacs yet
let's not
!!xkcd emacs
07:13
uses emacs
@MattPrelude And that's the problem, I don't have the privilege of not being productive because my mental capacity is taken up by memorizing those shortcuts for well over a month, just to learn a tool which, frankly, has better alternatives out there.
@Gordon Ugh, you're forced to use emacs to write Lisp
it sucks so bad....
@MadaraUchiha I agree, I use emacs and found the core shortcuts easy to remember. With vim, too much is unintuitive.
I'll agree with that
This is 2016
If you already use a GUI editor, don't use the one which is basically a terminal with a menu.
ffs
the use case for vi being made is usually the guys I know who can barely keep his linux desktop environment stable
>:|
nah, no. It's in the name
might as well use emacs at that point
@Gordon Well, what do you want, a cookie?
@MadaraUchiha no, thanks. I get lots of cookies nowadays from websites.
07:18
I'm still learning VIM ;) but it's at least very fast. But I should customize it some more.
though the default php color scheme sucks and it will collapse everything by default.
sweet :D
@Duikboot fast how?
Anonymous
mornin
that's one of the reasons I don't use it. Too slow to move around in vim
07:23
@taco fast by not running tons of javascript ;)
@taco type vimtutor into your shell
why
because it will help you get to speed
GUI's have their place
Like I said I've used it as a DC tech. I'm familiar with it.
and the question was meant for @Duikboot
@tereško there are two connections they switch between
telenet/lattelecom
07:26
@taco The learning curve to start using VIM is steep. but once, you know most of the basics it's fast to work and move,jump, work in files imo.
Why does php-cli have this option -z <file> Load Zend extension <file> but no equivalent for loading a regular extension? We end up having to use -dextension=<file>.
@SergeyTelshevsky my Arch updates are being downloaded at 50KB/s
@Duikboot Ah ok. So you think it's fast as far as navigation?
@tereško you may whine at our helpdesk
If you use a text-mode editor, don't switch to a GUI editor or you'll lose productivity.
07:28
Morning.
I don't agree with that at all. There are better solutions for my use. Not going to say it doesn't work for some people, but that's one of the problems I have with it. It's much easier to just use a scroll bar than CTRL keys for page up/down, et cetera
@SergeyTelshevsky it might be a loosing battle
not to mention it's not the best for copy/paste
that's because you're used to scroll bars
and used to GUI based copy pasting
Uh, I was a RHEL/Solaris/Windows/BSD admin.... I'm comfortable with cli
07:30
@Oldskool o/
I'm a Sr. Sys Admin now as well
like I said whatever floats your boat, vim is ok, just not for me
!!xkcd sysadmin
heh
07:31
it's all in the cloud now, so that's becoming less of a reality
Anonymous
I mean, I don't think it was supposed to reflect reality.. :P
I used to build servers from the ground up, and nowadays you lose that. Kind of enjoyed building them
@Saitama well, I'm not sure I agree with that
lol
But yeah marketers abuse the term cloud. It's annoying.
07:35
it is....
morning
@Saitama pong?
It's essentially dedicated or managed hosting with an API in front of it for orchestration, and usually sold at some hip hourly rate. I helped our SAT guys at PEER 1 build one (same company that hosts StackOverflow) when I was a dev at PEER 1 last year
@Naruto wanna play slither in the same server
?
lol
how do you do that
07:40
o/ @Naruto ;)
there is an userscript for that
I had 2 days extra off because.. belgium holidays.. and got too many mails to process and stuff to do atm :P so it's not going to be for today :(
I've first got to see that in a youtube video
@Naruto k.. np ;)
@Duikboot o/ you better tell me you went to see the ufc?
@tereško nope, everyone here already noticed that
@tereško I think they've switched already speedtest.net/result/5310969880.png
07:46
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> linux-4.5.2-1-x86_64 58,0 MiB 38,8K/s 25:32 [################################################] 100%
@SergeyTelshevsky low up sped
who cares, you don't upload pron
I am sensing a vibe of shaped traffic
huehue
07:49
anyway, it's OK now I think
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I need your help for following
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then don't reply me
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07:57
:(
Then it's going to be a quiet day.
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that's how we like it ^^
Also, that ;-)
07:59
@Siddharth Indian burn
so whats new guys
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Q: iOS Push notification implementation in custom server

SiddharthI have implemented push notification services for Unity iOS game. For this I am adding deviceToken send by iPhone devices in database. Using these deviceToke list for send them notification. I am using following code for this implementation. $tHost = 'gateway.push.apple.com'; //port ...

sorry above link not worked I think
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Q: iOS Push notification implementation in custom server

SiddharthI have implemented push notification services for Unity iOS game. For this I am adding deviceToken send by iPhone devices in database. Using these deviceToke list for send them notification. I am using following code for this implementation. $tHost = 'gateway.push.apple.com'; //port ...

!!urban fng
I want some suggestions in this
08:01
[ FNG ] Military term, 'Fucking New Guy' usually someone just out of training or just transfered into the unit/AO, who either hasn't proved his worth or doesn't know how to operate properly due to lack of experiance.
@Saitama NO WAY :D didn't know you could to that :D
I was in the Army too. I've done everything a man can do. I'm really old.
@Naruto there's lot of things in Jeeves :D
any docs? soo I can read while building stuff
08:02
@taco like...? 70?
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whats wrong with posting link of question
@NitinGohel It's posted double, hence spammy.
@NitinGohel, can you give me some help?
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08:03
@Saitama They use the term crowbag in UK i think :P
@Naruto you can get a list of plugins here: github.com/Room-11/Jeeves/tree/master/src/Chat/Plugin
@Oldskool it does not mean you did flag on it
@JayIsTooCommon hehe
you inform the user about it flag is not kind of use might be user did some mistake i guess
@NitinGohel No, I didn't flag it, I just explained why people would flag it.
08:04
@Wes svn praise
@Oldskool alright thanks :)
Guys, don't flag that, please. It's not spam.
It's something an RO can easily clean up.
larruping: very; exceedingly.
@Siddharth brother you need to find something in google i am sure there is lots of ready solution
08:05
@Jeeves That's larruping awesome!
@Oldskool larrupingly so.
which way I need to move ahead that is big question, already I have searched lot of :)
!!google iOS Push notification implementation in custom server
Search for "iOS Push notification implementation in custom server" (https://www.google.com/search?q=iOS+Push+notification+implementation+in+custom+server&lr=lang_en)
• Push Notifications Tutorial: Getting Started - Ra… - A server must send a push notification to APNS directed to one or more … push notifications tutoria… (https://www.raywenderlich.com/123862/push-notifications-tutorial)
• Apple Push Notification Service - Apple Developer - Apple Push Notification service (APNs) is the centerpiece of the remote notifications feature. … Y… (https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentatio
08:07
I have gone through most of but they are not discussing about my current facing problem
Ahhh good to wake up on Monday and someone other than me is using WotD \o/
And an interesting word to boot.
after that I created new question in forum
\o Happy Monday everyone
@Sean fuck you too :(
anyone here from UK working as Full Stack Web Developer?
08:11
there are 3, IIRC
busy monday
why do they have to be from the UK
@taco Probably becase there's a job offer incoming.
>:|
@GeoPhoenix Yes
@GeoPhoenix Well technically full stack dev, more back end tbh
08:13
Not a fan of the phrase full stack, because it rarely fits the job description
@tereško ):
Just a question about a position that i have been offered in UK and i just want some questions to be answered
@taco Same.
@GeoPhoenix What about?
@GeoPhoenix I'm not currently seeking employment.
mornign
moggels
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08:15
o/
ormgnin
Anonymous
@Oldskool Can I pick your brain pllleeasse :> ?
Full stack developers are the ACME of the web
@FlorianMargaine you saw that one coming, didn't you?
08:16
@Gordon Depends whether it's a self given title or the one a company expects one dev to be
@MadaraUchiha ?
oh
What am I saying? It doesn't depend on that at all, it's still bad lol.
@JayIsTooCommon I've only had half a coffee yet, so don't expect miracles yet :p
They should just say the stack, e.g. LAMP, LEMP, MEAN, ETC.
08:17
@Sean like in that job offer I got recently. they asked for proficiency in - quoting - php, java, javascript (jQuery, Dojo), linux, j2ee, apache and webservers
@Oldskool I too had only half a coffee, but that's because the milk turned sour and I only realized when it was too late.
@taco LEPP just doesn't sound nice :)
@GeoPhoenix I think @Jimbo counts as "full-stack developer", but he's not online ATM
@Gordon I absolutely love it when recruiters get Java/JavaScript bundled together
It just tells me who to avoid :P
@Gordon LOL ... you left it sitting on your desk over the weekend or what? :D
@taco don't forget SMACK. SMACK is the new hot shit
@Oldskool no, it has a cooled compartment in the machine. but apparently not cool enough
08:19
Looks up the SMACK stack
I understand none of these things
@Sean spark, akka, mesos, cassandra, kafka
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@Oldskool :P - If I have two columns in a table referencing the same foreign key in a separate table. Such as staff_member and second_staff_member referencing the staff_id in the staff table - Any idea how to reference this relationship in cake model? Having multiple belongsTo doesn't seem to work :S
@Gordon Yuck, time to go back to milk powder then ;-)
Yeah, the first time I've heard about any of those :P
I know Mesos but not the rest of them
08:21
@Gordon why do I get a feeling that someone just assembled technologies just to get those acronyms?
@JayIsTooCommon Multiple belongsTo should definitely work, but you'll have to set some specific options, since the defaults will overwrite each other.
SMACK sounds like ELK but for big data besides logs
@taco yes, and with reactive streaming
So @GeoPhoenix which stack of the 100 we just mentioned did you have a full stack question about again
lol
Anonymous
@Oldskool So for this pastebin.com/XMegF0dN - Foreign key is overwritten.. That's the expected behaviour, right?
08:23
speaking of java and javascript mixed together: javapoly.com
@taco "full-stack" in context of php usually refers to javascript, html css, sql, php, nix and apache/nginx
basically, you can make a fully functional website, when given an blank server
I mean, I know it's a monday, but I imagine if I took at a look at this article trying to describe SMACK on any other day of the week I'd still get confused after 30 seconds.
I can'#t tell if it's totally beyond me because it's new or it's just 101% hipster
@JayIsTooCommon Yes, should probably be something like this: pastebin.com/RcLcFHbY
@Sean it's a hipster thing
08:29
I seriously hate when SO won't clear it's freakin' cache and only shows me questions from 15mins ago >.<
why?
if question is simple enough to be answered by someone else in less than 15 min, then it is not worth bothering
Anonymous
@Oldskool That returned a lot of errors :S Um 2 secs, I've probably missed something
@JayIsTooCommon I'm not even sure that syntax is entirely valid. IT's been a while since I fiddled with Cake. But the key is to give your associations aliases and set the class it references manually in the options.
@PeeHaa Boo! The message exceeds the 140 character limit. :-(
Anonymous
08:36
@Oldskool Right ok, understood. I'll have a mess around with it - At least i'm on the right track now. Thanks for your help!
uggggh stupid developers
Anonymous
@Jeeves @PeeHaa Noob,
:'(
idonteven :P
Ekn
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people, everyday all users get a scroll in my game
randomly selected scrolls
I need a way to somehow bind this to the end of the game
where a user gets to descend to the next underworld, given he/she gets the right message out of scrolls
should I keep the scrolls as simple as keyword(s) or make it at least paragraphs?
confused
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Wes
08:44
as long they are written with blood #ff2800, both are fine, no? :B
Ekn
Ekn
yeah not easy to explain as I still try to decide too, ugh
@Ekn what game?
Ekn
Ekn
@Gordon an rpg-ish thing that I try to work on every now and then
it's not anywhere yet
24 mins ago, by Gordon
speaking of java and javascript mixed together: https://www.javapoly.com/
> JavaPoly.js is a library that polyfills native JVM support in the browser. It allows you to import your existing Java code, and invoke the code directly from Javascript.
you cannot make JavaScript more Java than that ;)
08:53
@Ekn Sounds interesting
Is there a way to do something like use \RootNamespace\$subNamespace1\$subNamespace2?
Any clever ways, or hacks?
@Ekn window.setInterval(function() { window.scroll(0, screen.height * Math.random()); }, 86400);
@Saitama 1) why would you need it? 2) generate the file with php
file_put_contents('/file.php', "<?php use \RootNamespace\$subNamespace1\$subNamespace2");
Ekn
Ekn
08:55
lol
hmm... got it...
Still the question stands: what are you doing? :)
I can only see that being useful for generated files
hehehe
I was actually planning to have a class like ExtensionManger, which would have a function, like load(string $extName), which would reuttn an instance of the ext...
08:57
Just use the fqn
fqn?
!!google php fqn
Search for "php fqn" (https://www.google.com/search?q=php+fqn&lr=lang_en)
• PHP: Using namespaces: Aliasing/Importing - Manua… - All versions of PHP that support namespaces support three kinds of aliasing or importing: aliasing… (http://php.net/manual/en/language.namespaces.importing.php)
• PHP: Name resolution rules - Manual - (PHP 5 >= 5.3.0, PHP 7). For the purposes of these resolution rules, here are some important defin… (http://php.net/manual/en/language.namespaces.rules.php)
• thePHP.cc - PHP 5.5: New Class Constant - Last week, the first stable version of PHP 5.5 was released. It
@PeeHaa Perhaps shorter lines
@Saitama the fuq'in namespace!
08:59
So that we don't get to the (see full text) limit
:D gotcha...

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