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1:08 PM
@Andrea dick :P
 
@Jimbo I feel there should be some variety...
 
@kelunik Hey, you're welcome :)
@Andrea well, that's rather refreshing :D
 
user895378
1:22 PM
@Ocramius this ... so many people fail to realize this
 
user895378
Denormalization can be extremely beneficial when done selectively and for the right reasons ...
 
user895378
The DB schema should serve the design integrity of the domain model and not the other way around
 
A smooth playlist for Friday: youtube.com/…
(ignore the stupid clown makeup).
 
@Ja͢ck ^^ (star it)
 
user895378
@Danack sad clown sounds a bit like antony and the johnsons
 
1:28 PM
yo ho ho
 
@rdlowrey @Ocramius is preaching for denormalization all the time though
 
@ircmaxell Hello!
 
user895378
@FlorianMargaine I can certainly see how that would make sense. When have you ever thought halfway through a project, "damn, I'm sure glad my database schema is so normalized"
 
@FlorianMargaine re-read what he said, because I don't think that's what he said from what I read and understood
 
user895378
Like everything the right approach is determined on a case-by-case basis
 
user895378
1:31 PM
The real key is not to let the details of the backend persistence layer leak into your domain logic
 
user895378
If you're using repositories correctly, for example, even if you're doing crazy cross-table super joins that kind of thing is hidden from the application
 
anyone know, where we can find leaked madison's Data
 
www.google.com
Or torrents...
 
user895378
This is going to be an unpopular opinion I think but I've started to become very anti-PDO
 
nope..
i will try torrents
 
1:34 PM
@rdlowrey It's fine to be anti-PDO if you need driver-specific features
 
@rdlowrey why the hate for PDO?
 
PDO definitely doesn't do async
 
user895378
Yeah async is a whole other ball of wax. I was more speaking in terms of this: if you're correctly keeping your data persistence code out of your domain logic then you're be better served to take advantage of db-specific features and capabilities in the individual drivers behind your repositories than accept a standard level of mediocrity from pdo
 
found it on torrent.. its about ~20 GB
 
user895378
the decoupling from the backend can happen in your code and doesn't have to be done at the pdo layer
 
1:36 PM
@rdlowrey Oh, people like PDO only because it's API sucks less than everything else
 
user895378
Good abstractions will end up needing to wrap pdo anyway at which point you've lost much of the value from pdo
 
If you directly wrap, yes
 
@NikiC ah, the story of PHP
 
@rdlowrey I can get on board with that.
 
@rdlowrey it has to, since PDO doesn't translate queries. So "database independences" is a total lie. The reason to use it is that it's a 1) familiar API for all backends, 2) sucks less than most of the other DB apis, 3) peer pressure
 
1:41 PM
thecodinglove.com/post/127231859645 The coding love LARAVEL IS AWESOME kbironneau 1440158467 /* by TaylorOtwell */
19
 
user895378
@ircmaxell It has always seemed like snake oil to me.
 
^^ Trolling for the future; star for the greater good
I shoulda got feeds to say it /meh
 
@PeeHaa have you been doing any work on that tutorial you started making?
 
@tereško Ha! nope :(
 
@DanLugg sir, you screwed up the markdown (:
 
1:43 PM
I don't care for Zend making php7 elephpants... Feels ...wrong...
 
My day has been mostly spend in full doing actual work lately :(
It's my last day today though \o/
 
@AlmaDo What? How?
 
yay!
 
@DanLugg with your hands I guess
 
user895378
@PeeHaa awww yissss
 
1:44 PM
ba-dum-tss, seriously though, how @AlmaDo
 
Hello every one! I just want to ask on how to pass variable from one <?php ?> tag to another tag inside one php file. I don't know if my question makes sense but that is what Im trying to accomplish, I am a complete newbie on php. I really appreciate your answers! Thanks!
 
@PeeHaa well, I was going through it, with some intention to maybe add some shit to it and got to forms part. This thing seems really bad.
 
Anyone know what you use SplDoublyLinkedList for?
 
I think it needs a superglobals chapter before that
 
@tereško I know there is bad stuff in there. And I am hoping somebody could help out :-)
My work process for it has been. Just writing chapters which came to mind so I at least had something for when the project stalled
 
1:46 PM
@Mr.Hans if you assign a variable like $foo it is avalible in the file so you can use it whenever you open or close a php tag.
 
@ircmaxell for a cuddly toy, I'm happy to abandon my sense of morality ...
 
@chozilla So If I have a <?php $variable ?> on this tag then I can just use it on another <?php ?> tag even if it is not declared on that tag?
 
@ircmaxell "I don't care for Zend" FTFY :)
 
@Mr.Hans yes because you are in a global scope as long as you do not create a function or any other scope it should work.
 
:25232325 its a working example of what you're asking
 
1:51 PM
@Sjon I see Thanks
@chozilla Thanks
 
@chozilla global isn't the best word here. You're in the same scope. That is different from global scope
 
@Machavity Next time be faster and write it correctly :P
 
@chozilla Just trying to avoid confusion so you don't have a second question about globals :P
 
@tereško TL;DR I would love you if you would add / fix things :-)
 
@PeeHaa thinking about it ...
 
1:58 PM
All I can ask for :)
 
@PeeHaa btw, the githubs higlighter is fucking broken: gist.github.com/teresko/6d761c65b573d309c1c8
(I was thinking of how to show "output" in a less confusing way and reading up on githubs markdown capabilities)
 
@tereško Yeah looks like it. Should be a matter of hinting the language
 
my dayjob makes me more sympathetic towards the prospect of substance abuse every day
upside: it's friday!
 
I am hinting PHP, but it breaks the HTML
 
Also still not sure what medium will be the end for the thing. Might eventually put it on php.net if it kinda works
 
2:02 PM
posted on August 21, 2015 by kbironneau

/* by Tumeconnais */

 
^ I have been wanting to watch the pirates of caribbean for some time now
 
Anonymous
They got a bit shit after the first one.
 
@Feeds This is me in like, 6 hours.
I can feel it.
 
@DanLugg Six hours. Wanker time zone. hour and a half is all I need to leave behind all that non working stuff
<3
 
@DanLugg 2h.
 
2:11 PM
how can I define a alias for this parenthesis :
WHERE  id = (SELECT user_id FROM comments WHERE comments.id = new.comment_id);
 
@Sajad, select it first and then put the alias in the where
 
@chozilla what ? here is my full query:
UPDATE users
SET reputation = reputation + 2
WHERE
  id = (SELECT user_id FROM comments WHERE comments.id = new.comment_id);
I need a alias for the above parenthesis
 
why would you need an alias
 
I need to it for another query
 
@Sajad Then do the query separately, store it in PHP and use it later
 
2:15 PM
@Machavity it's in a trigger definition
 
@Machavity there is not PHP, It is a trigger
@Orangepill :-)
 
Ah
 
@Sajad I think can set a variable inside the trigger and use it in both queries
 
like this :
id = @var = (SELECT user_id FROM comments WHERE comments.id = new.comment_id);
I think it has syntax error
 
@sajad stackoverflow.com/a/328186/2364629 look at the last example
DECLARE id bigint; SET id = (select user_id from comments where comments.id = new.comment_id);
 
2:20 PM
@Orangepill id is the name of column
 
@sajad UPDATE users SET reputation = reputation + 2 WHERE id =@id;
 
aha, wait
You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'DECLARE id int; SET id = (select user_id from comments where comments.id = new.c' at line 6
 
@Sajad try creating the trigger with just the DECLARE statement
 
ok
#1064 - You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'DECLARE id bigint; SET id = (select user_id from comments where comments.id = ne' at line 1
really I don't know what is the syntax error ! I checked it 3 times
 
@sajad no ... just create the trigger with DECLARE id bigint; in it. we will redefine it when we can isolate where the syntax error is
 
2:31 PM
:-)
You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'DECLARE id bigint' at line 1
my version is ok ? MySQL client version: 5.0.67
 
₧ ..
 
@Sajad no
 
@Sajad hell no
 
@FlorianMargaine shit !!!
 
@ircmaxell have you looked at the direction AuraPHP framework is going? auraphp.com/blog/2015/03/27/aura-3-plans
 
2:37 PM
you should be using 5.6 (if possible)
 
@Sajad it's from 2008
7 years ago
 
yep
I need to update it
 
did you use Debian on your VM? (that could explain the ancient mysql version)
 
@Sajad Did you change the delimiter before attempting to create the trigger?
 
I use of xampp and phpMyAdmin - 2.11.9.2
 
2:39 PM
oh
 
XAMPP, on Linux. -.-
 
@tpunt yes
@Jimbo I'm on windows now, (local)
 
Oh god.
 
so, no VM
 
Shots in both feet
 
2:40 PM
@Jimbo he's really new at this, I guess
/me is rolling up his lat fajita
 
Has stackoverflow changed logo or am I drunk?
 
@Leri :-))))))))
Has changed
 
@Sajad The problem with using something that bundles everything together is, although it may work at some point, it's the lazy way of doing it. It'll put your versions way behind what's actually out there, you don't know what you're installing and tbh you're not learning anything either.
 
@Leri Both
 
Morning, room.
 
2:42 PM
@Jimbo yea I will update it
 
@Orangepill And you, my friend, deserve a medal. :-)
 
@Sajad Highly recommend installing apache on linux. On it's own. Then PHP. Get it serving webpages with PHP. Then installing mysql. On it's own. etc.. then you know exactly what the stack is you've built. (And if you want to go anywhere with your careeri in the future it'll help :-))
 
@Sajad basically, your goal for this weekend should be to set up a linux based VM on your PC
 
@Jimbo I will use a VPS tonight :-) ! and ok, I will install them
@tereško no no, I will buy a VPS
 
@sajad try changing the variable name from id... it might be that it doesn't like that.
 
2:44 PM
what OS you picked?
 
@tereško me ?
@Orangepill I tested, not usful, I should update my XAMPP
 
@Sajad Can you post your full trigger code?
 
@tpunt why ?
 
@Sajad yes
 
@Sajad To debug it...
 
2:46 PM
@tereško I want to install linux ubuntu
 
:(
 
UPDATE users
SET reputation = reputation + 2
WHERE
id = (SELECT user_id FROM comments WHERE comments.id = new.comment_id);
 
ubuntu is not for server .. ya know
 
@tereško what ? my firend told me ubuntu is fine
that is wrong ?
 
@tereško I still haven't figured out what it is for
 
2:48 PM
@sajad ubuntu is a distro that targets desktop machines
 
y'know, for kids!
 
meh
there's ubuntu server
 
I run Mint personally, with a grsec'd kernel ;)
 
@tereško can do you do something for me ?
 
Ubuntu seems to be for people who want to run Windows only they think Windows is too easy to use
 
2:49 PM
Should all forms be matched to commands (via interfaces)? And domain behavior use commands? So that the forms and the domain are properly decoupled from each other? Or are commands just a distraction?
 
@FlorianMargaine there is Marlboro Mint .. it doesn't make a good tea
 
@ScottArciszewski Vanila mint for me... since ubuntu f'd up the window manager so bad
 
@ScottArciszewski I can't seem to find the patches that grsec applies to linux
 
@Sajad Are you wrapping the trigger code in the BEGIN...END compound statement?
 
@Sajad I don't know
 
2:50 PM
@DaveRandom meh. Ubuntu works (tm). And ppas are useful.
 
@Sherif Hmm. I might have replaced one or two overflow checks with calls to bigint functions, but that would only be for promotion purposes
 
although I've found debian unstable to have very recent releases.
and for some, there are special repos
 
@FlorianMargaine it works, till something goes wrong, and then the kid with ubuntu is lost
 
2:51 PM
DROP TRIGGER IF EXISTS `spy`.`total_votes_cmnt_ins`//
CREATE TRIGGER `spy`.`total_votes_cmnt_ins` AFTER INSERT ON `spy`.`votes_cmnt`
FOR EACH ROW begin
UPDATE users
SET reputation = reputation + 2
WHERE
id = (SELECT user_id FROM comments WHERE comments.id = new.comment_id);
end //
 
@ScottArciszewski yeah... not the full patched kernel. Just the patches. In a web version, e.g. Trac or github
 
@ScottArciszewski What is it?
Same shit only hardened?
 
oh, didn't see the patch links
 
@tereško I will buy a VPS, If I give it you, you can config it for me ? I need a php, and a mysql, and phpmyadmin, just that
 
2:52 PM
@Sajad no, but I will help you to configure it yourself. Because you need to learn how to.
 
@tereško is it hard ?
 
depends
 
@tereško I don't know english, So yes :-)
ok, when I buy a VPS, what OS should I install ?
 
I probably would recommend CentOS, it's a quite good one (though, I personally use FreeBSD .. but that one is a bit trickier to manage and only VPS providers offer it as an option)
 
@tereško aha, One question: the comment line codes are identical in all linux version ? for example CD is for going to a path in the CentOS ?
 
2:56 PM
"command line"
 
@tereško good luck
 
but yes, almost always
 
@tereško good
 
@FlorianMargaine what is your point ? :-)
@FlorianMargaine If I feel I am disturb, I will stop that.
 
2:58 PM
@FlorianMargaine there are it shouldn't be to hard and I have done SOI quite a lot.
 
@tereško lol
 
Can anybody please tell me what I'm doing wrong with this regex rewrite rule in htaccess: RewriteRule ^/choice/([_0-9a-zA-Z,]+)$ /choice-details.php?choice=$1 (Basically, it should replace domain.com/choice/vanilla to domain.com/choice-details.php?choice=vanilla
 
@Orangepill I asked a question on SO about using a class to manage arrays of objects and whether it was anti-pattern/broke the law of demeter and someone commented saying I should use a marker interface...
 
emm .. lolwut
 
@esswilly link to the question
 
3:05 PM
@user3692125 try taking off the / after ^
 
@tereško can you tell me whet the problem of ubuntu ?
 
@esswilly to they mean have all of the objects that the collection is meant to manage implement an empty interface so that you can type hint on the methods of the collection?
 
1
Q: Managing Arrays with a Class

esswillyIs it worth creating a class that does no work, but simply contains arrays of objects? The main benefit of having the class at all is that it provides a label for the collections that it contains. For example: class Park { protected $benches; // array of Bench objects protected $people;...

 
@salathe That worked. Thanks!
 
@user3692125 *victory dance*
 
3:12 PM
@esswilly I have no idea what they are talking about with the marker interface reference... this doesn't follow any variation of that term that I'm aware of. What you is a ParkManager.
 
FRYDAAAaiiiii1111!
 
@esswilly that is very likely to be closed - it would be far more suitable on programmers.stackexchange.com
 
@esswilly Marker Interface as I understand it is a empty interface that just is meant to convey an intent of use of the object as opposed to a contract in the code.
 
@Sajad well .. aside from ubuntu collecting user telemetry (mostly in GUI), it contain some amount of crap and is mostly made to be used a desktop OS which (since you will be managing VPS through SSH) won't bring anything useful. You will only have more crap to update.
 
@tereško aha ..
 
@tereško then I go with CentOS ? it is the best ? also do you know digitalocean.com has CentOS or not ?
 
@Sajad IIRC, they do
 
@tereško IIRC means {International Integrated Reporting Council} ?
 
whether it's "the best", I cannot say, but it is quite commonly used on server and I have not experienced any showstopping issues with any of CentOS servers that I have managed before
 
@Sajad go for debian, it's like ubuntu without all the crap :P
 
3:17 PM
@Sajad "if I recall correctly"
 
@salathe ok, @tereško what is your opinion about debian ?
 
@Danack Already posted there and got put hold because it was "off topic"
 
@salathe will you talk him through how to get around the outdated packages?
 
And it's even more off-topic for this site...
 
Hello guys I have a question regarding retrieving of directories using PHP. I need to retrieve the sub-folders of a particular folder then use it as a filter for that directory. Do you have any suggestions?
 
3:19 PM
@tereško probably not
 
@Danack Ok...any suggestions to where I can post?
@Orangepill Ok thank you. I thought it made little sense as well.
 
@Danack nice codinglove link
enjoyed it...
 
wrong dan...
 
Ping all the @Dan
 
Guys would this query work
 
3:23 PM
seems to be a common problem for you... getting confused with other Dan's
 
$sql_remove_approvers = "
DELETE FROM approvers
WHERE approver_id=? AND approved_id=?
OR
approver_id=? AND approved_id=?";
$stmt = $db->prepare($sql_remove_approvers);
$stmt->bind_param('ssss',$_SESSION['id'], $userid, $_SESSION['id'], $userid);
I am trying to use a "x AND y = true OR a AND b = true"
Does mysqli allow this, I don't get erros but its not working
 
@Matthcw Parenthesis are a wonderful thing
 
^ that
 
Scratch that my logic is off
Thanks though
I have a new question though
Question v2.0
Can i delete rows using the WHERE clause that contain multiple values?
I.e.
 
@Matthcw why not just try it?
 
3:28 PM
like in an IN clause?
 
Delete from comments where ID = 3 or 2 or 1
 
DELETE FROM comments WHERE ID in (1,2,3);
 
@Matthcw either WHERE id = 3 || id = 2 || id = 1 or ^ that.
 
Ah yeah the In looks rather sexy
I'd have to go for that one
Appreciate it
 
@tereško all linux are free ? or some of them has license ?
 
3:35 PM
Haha this is hilarious, I hope I don't look to bad infront of you guys But.............. (Yes I have googled) - google.co.uk/…
But can I use a WHERE ID IN (?,?) AND username IN (?,?)
Yes I have tried it
But it becomes a non object
 
@Sajad there are few "commercial" version. But very few (like Redhat or Suse)
 
^ was about to mention suse
 
Anyone know?? haha
 
@salathe Dammit @salathe! I was sleeping working!
 
@tereško aha tnx
 
3:52 PM
I'd like to publicly apologise, and announce that I do acknowledge the stupidity of the question, however it was due to a silly mistake in ANOTHER line not the line with the statement above. I do take full responsibility for this and would like forgiveness.
 
Happy PeeHaa's vacation all!
 
Hi
anyone willing to lend me a hand my head is hurting thinking about the logic for this :(
ive got several batch scripts which explort various bits of data,
first 1 exports portname and ip in the format
this_portname ip
second batch script exports the printer queue name from the a/d server
in the format
printer name

Now, printer name and portname are the same yet one can contain spaces and one cannot, my head is getting so confused with this logic anyone want to lend me a hand?
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa Have fun o/
 
example:
dc-dump.txt
lowerground_issysadmin 10.40.131.220

ps-dump.txt
lowerground is sys admin

both text files containt more than just these 2 records :S how would i search for these to to match :S?
 
@Jay Thanks! Let me drink to that!
 
4:02 PM
@user3165482 use str_replace to eliminate the spaces and underscores from both sides of the comparison
 
so use str_replace on the whole document?
currently im doing this:
sorry code is abit messy my head is so confused :(
 
@user3165482 what separates the printer name from the ip address in dc-dump.txt ... a space or a tab?
 
@PeeHaa And directly a new repo on GitHub. \o/
 
lowerground_ISSysAdmin 3600 A 10.40.131.220
space i belive
its dumped from a batch script
 
@user3165482 so lowerground_ISSysAdmin 3600 A 10.40.131.220 is a sample line from dc-dump.txt ?
 
4:09 PM
and ps dump looks like this:
lowerground IS Sys Admin Print HPLJ M4345 MFP
yeah all on the same line
 
@kelunik :-D
 
and it is a sample line yes :)
both are
each document has over 400 lines
and there is more than just 2 files but i can loop through the rest if i ever get to the stage of having one working lol
so for example there is 103 dc's (domain controllers) which dump differently names dc-dump.txt files

there is 52 print servers which all dump different ps-dump.txt files :| so my end results eventuly is to be able to search by ip, portname or queue name to find out which dc(domain controller) print server and ip it has..
the first dc-dump.txt has
Finished zone: 17412 nodes and 17850 records in 1 seconds
the first ps-dump.txt has
509 records in 1 second
 
@user3165482 First thing I would do would be to make a hashmap of your printer dns records
$dcdata = [];

$fp = fopen($dcfile, "r");
while($dcline = fgets($fp)){
$res = preg_split('/\s+/', $dcline);
$dcdata[str_replace([" ","_"],"", $res[0])] = $res;
}
which will give you an output like
Array
(
    [lowergroundISSysAdmin] => Array
        (
            [0] => lowerground_ISSysAdmin
            [1] => 3600
            [2] => A
            [3] => 10.40.131.220
        )

)
@user3165482 make sense?
 
4:25 PM
ahh yes, i never thought about that
thank you so much, ive have actually spent 6-7 hours thinking about how to compare these 2 sets of data :| and you have done it in a matter of minutes
 
then when you want to look for the key you normalize it the same way (with the str_replace).... if you find that case is also an issue you can apply strtolower to the key creation
 
Good day!
 
is it possible to I check a column exist before updating ?
in the this query:
 
@Orangepill I rewrote 2 pages of code(more like reworked) and I just can't seem to get the trip name and the other information at the same time
 
SELECT user_id FROM comments WHERE comments.id = new.comment_id
somethimes user_id is not exist
and it gives me error
 
4:29 PM
@Sajad so what do you want to check?
 
Anonymous
@Orangepill How are you with containers ?
 
Anonymous
Something about that code is bugging me too much
 
if there is any data in the column?
 
@benlevywebdesign sometime column is not exist !
because table is changeable
 
@Sajad why is the table changeable?
 
4:31 PM
@benlevywebdesign oh yeas, my problem solved :-) tnx !!!
 
@samayo what's bugging you?
 
sajad, count the amount of results it returns

ie: if 0 rows returned -> display nothing else display user id
you using mysqli?
or mysql?
 
I think I am just having trouble selecting data from two tables
Before I just did FROM table1name, table2name is that wrong?
 
@user3165482 I use PDO, and my problem solved, tnx
 
Anonymous
The fact I made it, means it's upto no good. Second, when I use a subclass that extends the container, I have to fetch the object instances as $this['request']() I wish I could get rid of the() @Orangepill
 
Anonymous
4:34 PM
class app extends container{
    function route(){
        return $this['router']();
        return $this['router']; // I prefere this one
    }
}
 
Wait wut. Is 7 RC1 released already?
 
Anonymous
y
 
Here is my short code snippet:
$id = $_GET['id']; // ?id=#

$sql = "SELECT
ontheway_destinations.id,
ontheway_destinations.tripinfoid,
ontheway_destinations.destaddress,
ontheway_destinations.destiname,
ontheway_destinations.arrivaltime,
ontheway_destinations.priority

FROM ontheway_destinations

WHERE id = '$id'";

$results = mysql_query( $sql );

while( $row = mysql_fetch_array($results) )
{
$id                   = $row ['id'];
$tripinfoid           = $row ['tripinfoid'];
$destaddress          = $row ['destaddress'];
$destiname            = $row ['destiname'];
 
public function offsetGet($offset){
    if(array_key_exists($offset, $this->container)){
        return is_callable($this->container[$offset])?$this->container[$offset]():$this->container[$offset];
    }
}
@samayo ^ I think that is all you need
 
4:43 PM
There's something magical about writing return yield from $coroutine @bwoebi @rdlowrey
 
I also need to get ontheway_tripinfo.tripname FROM ontheway_tripinfo at the same time!
 
@PeeHaa yeah, but we'll have 4-6 RCs at least
 
@Orangepill thats the only thing I can't get to work...
 
@Trowski why?
 
@bwoebi Doesn't RC mean "freeze all the things"?
 
Anonymous
4:44 PM
@Orangepill That is the first thing I tried, although I did not check for is_callable() as everything is callable, but it did not work for me ... I'll check again ... is there any one important you could add as a feature?
 
@bwoebi Maybe magical wasn't the right word, I meant awesome.
 
@PeeHaa it does, yeah. But I'm sure we'll solve the error/exception things
 
Anonymous
I always thought it meant "Release Candidate" :/
 
@bwoebi Do we really need an RFC just for what @ircmaxell proposed?
Seems logical to me.
 
@samaYo It does
@bwoebi I can see why people are pushing forward, but that is a bit strange php
 
4:46 PM
@Trowski I hope not.
@PeeHaa why?
 
Because RC?
When I see that I think bugfixes
Dat typo
 
@PeeHaa no, why is it strange?
Well, it mostly is a bugfix phase?
 
Yes mostly ;)
 
@orangepill
Lowerground IS Sys Admin Print HPLJ M4345 MFP

this is output from ps-dump.txt

how would i get the hashmap for this to appear just lowergroundissysadmin for ps-dump?

eg: dc data dumping this
'lowergroundissysadmin' =>
array (size=5)
0 => string 'lowergroundissysadmin' (length=31)
1 => string '3600' (length=4)
2 => string 'A' (length=1)
3 => string '10.16.128.102' (length=13)
4 => string '' (length=0)

would like to be able to hashmap ps-dump to the same format
 
The fact that from day one people have been saying it was bad and now we already have an RC
Either way. /me is out drinking
 
4:50 PM
I think I'm going to unsubscribe from internals and just wait until 7 is out and see if they do the dumb thing
 
@ScottArciszewski How about we just put together an RFC quick so we can vote and make Anatol happy?
Do you have the time to author it?
 
because they'll say "okay but this RFC can only target 7.1" and elsewhere say "see we have an RFC for this, let's delay the change until 7.1"
nope
besides, if I author it
it will sound mean
 
Heh, you do tend to be a little short-tempered on this.
 
yeah, I've got a million things going wrong lately, I don't have the patience to keep dealing with internals
when the problem is as clear-cut as this, and people want to bog solutions down with idiotic bikeshedding over consistency concerns (when we're changing the major version number anyway) and then want to initiate a bureaucratic process which only serves to force it to be delayed until 7.1, it's hard not to get frustrated
if anyone wants to write up an RFC and immediately open voting with a deadline of next friday, cool
I already have a plan in place to make sure developers can be safe even if the internals team wants to fight me tooth and nail
 
Same thing for the preg_match failing to do the matching correctly stuff.....i can't even understand how people think it's okay for a program to keep executing when it has detected an internal error.
 

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