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11:07
@Jimbo nah, the British idiom is to call some a spanner...which is not quite the same.
btw another thing I never knew about localization - tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5287457&cid=47252449
"tool" is slang for penis afaik
It is therefore impossible to mix Chinese and Japanese in the same plain text document.
WUT
@Danack If I require a lib as * (adapter I was writing the other day, so it's designed to work with API changes), and the parent repo requires something that replaces the thing I required, will that play nice do you think? (I can and will test, just wondering if you know off the top of your head)
They changed how replace works...I need to reread the docs on what it does now. However...I'd recommend not using *, but instead using >= some version, and then changing it if it ever becomes a problem.
@Danack Even >=0.0.0.1 would suffice? (that basically means the same thing, will it somehow change the way stuff is resolved?)
Basically I've realised I can just do a bunch of method_exists() checks in my factory to determine which version is in use, it's just a bridge between two interfaces. Neither API has actually changed (at least, not in a way I can't detect at runtime), only stuff has been added.
11:23
@DaveRandom It shouldn't affect what version is resolved but I seem to remember encountering some wtf when I was using * as a requirement, and so avoid it now....but can't remember the detail, and it may have been fixed by a later version of composer.
Don't be a fool, wrap your tool.
Rediscover how much full of shit can one talk be ^
Hmm... is there anything like an iterator that allows me to transform values before retrieving them? Like $iterator = new SOMETHING(new OtherIterator(), function ($value) { return $value + 1; })
@DaveRandom getcomposer.org/doc/faqs/… I think just "~0.1" would be better than *
@Danack That would allow everything <1.0, right?
0.1 -> 0.999 yes.
@Patrick dang, didn't think about generators at all >.<
though I'd want to rewind on it as well
@Danack Yeh, I'm happy with that I guess, if they are using anything approaching semantic versioning there's a real chance of API change at 1.0 so prob don't want to do that automagically
meh, nvm, I'll go with a generator :P
With auryn, can I bind this method (returns an object) to an interface? $this->bootstrapper->initResponse()
(this is just to demonstrate how it works without having to change the whole bootstrapper for now)
if I do it with delegate I get this
Auryn\Provider::delegate expects a valid callable or provisionable executable class or method reference at Argument 2
11:50
@Danack ^ might know this
@SecondRikudo You wasted 487 seconds of my life. :)
@Leri Some of the most entertaining seconds though
The full talk lasted hours and hours
nevermind I think I got it
@Patrick You can but you're probably doing it wrong the callable needs to be a valid callable, which I 'm guesing would be [$this->bootstrapper, 'initResponse'] as the variable.
^ this was the problem :)
11:54
@Ocramius 3v4l.org/Cddms ?
@Jimbo use cascade persistence there
After correcting the copypasta errors, obviously
Morning dudes
@DaveRandom yeah, kinda like that, but I went with the iterator to avoid going crazy with tests :D
@SecondRikudo All the talks in my university are the same sh*t (wait, in most cases even shittier).
11:56
@JukEboX did you make some progress last night?
HI @Patrick @DaveRandom @Ocramius
Pro-tip: Never trust speaker who talks about programming in non-English language.
@Leri I don't believe you.
@Patrick I built my test VM last night. I do have one problem though. For some reason when I make DB and tables in my MySQL db they are always in lowercase. anyway to fix that?
@DaveRandom Got the test VM up and running
I feel bad for good non-english programmers. They not only have to learn another language and think in that language (English), but also then programming on top of it. Mental
I couldn't do that
12:01
@Jimbo I couldn't either i
@Jimbo I believe in Soviet Russia there was assembler analogue in Russian I can't remember the name. If that hardware survived it could be different story now.
English is my third language, it's not really a problem
@DaveRandom Callbacks? Default api I wrote for TorrentPHP doesn't use callbacks
12:14
@Jimbo No it doesn't, but given that it's still basically pre-release (no-one is actually using it) you can change the API without issues (I don't think I've ever got an API right first time, although I'm getting better). Besides, the goalposts have moved a little bit since then. You can always bump a major version number if you're worried about it
the benefits it brings are worth the administrative issues IMO
@DaveRandom Can I wrap it and use callbacks that way?
@JukEboX winner :-)
Meaning I don't need to alter the original
@DaveRandom ???
@Jimbo No really, not it you want it to work async
@DaveRandom Okay so the constructor of ClientTransport, instead of needing a Client, Request and ConnectionConfig, should instead take a Callback and that's it?
@Jimbo I'm going to finish up the alert/react bridge today and then I'll fork torrentphp and seedstream and try and get a PoC working
@DaveRandom That'd be awesome man, thanks. I'll keep working on the other stuff on it then - Just pushed a minor change in entities now anyway
@Jimbo No, the addTorrent etc methods would accept a callback as an arg instead of returning values
@JukEboX Did you manage to get the page working with PDO based on those changes I made last night?
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morning
12:19
@DaveRandom we didn't do any changes. We just got it on BitBucket. You went to bed before we worked on it :P
@JukEboX No I made a commit, I linked you to it, one sec
Oh I didn't see that
I'm not sure if that was the right page though, there are two Login.php and two LoginCheck.php, although 3 of the 4 files appear to be identical so I only changed to two that appear to actually be used
@rdlowrey mornings. Check internals :-)
@DaveRandom yeah I know I will get rid of the ones I dont' need. I was using 2 at one point for some trouble shooting
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@DaveRandom ahahahahahahahahaha \o/
@DaveRandom so instead of using $result = mysql_query($q,$con); your using $result = $con->query($q,$con); ?
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I will now spend the next hour replying to that thread instead of merging PRs.
I've been pretty productive today so I can go early at home. /me is proud of myself
Oh, and also have time to read some book. ^_^
@JukEboX Oh, I must have forgotten to remove the second argument, you just need $result = $con->query($q);
12:32
@DaveRandom Ok no problem. I will try it ini a second
@rdlowrey /shakes fist
:-P
@DaveRandom I am going to test it on my internal environment BUT I need to fix a problem with the MySQL config. Do you know how to stop the MySQL to stop forcing making all tables and database names in lowercase?
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@DaveRandom I'll merge your artax PR after that :)
btw @JukEboX I'm sorry about the weird spacing, my IDE is set to use spaces and your code uses tabs so it looked fine on my screen
@Gordon ping
12:33
@SecondRikudo pong
@DaveRandom Thats ok. I am OCD so I use tab
@rdlowrey There is an issue with that that we need to discuss but just ping me when you've dealt with everything else because it will prob take a while
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@Gordon Can you please act on my flag on chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/17204846#17204846?
Further details in TL
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@DaveRandom Before I merge?
12:35
@SecondRikudo there is no flags
Anal greg? That's an odd name
@Gordon It was already cleared then?
@PeeHaa Insulting nickname to Awal Garg
@SecondRikudo cleared or handled
oh wait. there is one. my menu bar was over it
@Gordon Well, not handled because the user is not banned
@SecondRikudo Well at least is is original. I just always call @DaveRandom fucktwat :)
You watched zermany yesterday @rdlowrey?
12:37
@rdlowrey Not necessarily, it's a separate issue that I think has only shown itself because DNS calls aren't blocking. Basically if your run parallel_async_basic on current master it works fine, if you run it with non-blocking DNS it hangs for ~5 seconds after the last request completes. Either this is a Connection: keep-alive handling problem or it's an issue with not cancelling read watchers at the right time, I haven't had a chance to debug it properly
@PeeHaa Yeah, oh wow it was utter rape.
@PeeHaa SCHLAND!!!!1
hehehehehe
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@PeeHaa yeah scary. I was going nuts during the USA game too :)
^ me only whiter
@rdlowrey yeah not bad
12:38
@JukEboX Real men use 4 spaces :-P
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Does anyone know how to prevent my MySQL server forcing database and tables to lowercase?
@DaveRandom I can't see the seperation in my code with spaces. :P
Thanks @Gordon
@JukEboX did you get sublime? dreamweaver sucks :)
@Patrick I did but I like Dreamweaver. I have wanted to try Komodo but not want to pay for it. Or is it free?
@DaveRandom I added lower_case_table_names to my my.ini on the bottom set to 0 didn't make much of a difference. Unless I put it in the wrong place
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12:46
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Lego Pepe
http://www.webdevdoor.com/sublime-text/advantages-sublime-dreamweaver/
You don't have to use sublime, there are a few other good editors. But dreamweaver is not one of them
@Patrick sublime is the editor or just a style?
@Patrick trying to fix this lowercase thing first
@JukEboX the editor. there are a lot of styles available
Sublime or Komodo? THoughts?
@DaveRandom Do I add Lower_case_Table_names in a certain place?
user924016
12:50
vim, sublime, phpstorm, netbeans all works fine in my book =]
@ThW yeah, but went with generators to avoid too much complexity
Morning @ThW
@RonniSkansing haven't tried Komodo?
@JukEboX it's a config setting, it goes in your my.ini or in the arguments to mysqld
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@JukEboX I am afraid not
@DaveRandom I have in there but it hasn't made a difference
12:52
It's quite possible it will break stuff if you apply it to an existing db
@JukEboX ...and you have restarted MySQL? and also it obviously won't affect any existing table names, it will only affect newly created ones
@DaveRandom does it have to go somewhere sspecific
@Ocramius for what are doctrine/data-fixtures good?
is that testing related?
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@JukEboX I will try it later today I think.
@RonniSkansing Everything that can save text could work fine. It's just a matter which actually increases productivity.
@hakre mainly, yes
or bootstrapping an environment
12:54
@JukEboX afaik mysql only has two sections, the regular one and the safe-mode thing, so I'd say put it in both if you have both
@hakre you may also want to look at Alice and Faker
@RonniSkansing add Brackets to the list (not using myself, but a really promising project)
tbh configuring mysql is not something I know that much about, I don't really do it unless I have a problem
Swee that did it ^_^
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@tereško thanks, downloading it now. Looks cool
12:58
Importing......
@Ocramius oki. just wondering because this one SF2 proj here has the fixtures in the no-dev dependencies which I thought might be overhead.
@hakre it may well be non-dev dependency
and for bootstrapping: this so needs a satis.
given that they may be used for setting up the app's initial state
I do not know yet where and for what they have been used as there is not much used from the ORM (actually PDO + arrays would have been the right choice here).
13:01
Ok one more MySQL server question. Where can I edit the MySQL server username and password?
=]
@JukEboX please try reading "mysql for beginners" book
@JukEboX to say it with puppet
class mysql ($root_password = 'root') {
  package { ["mysql-client", "mysql-server", "libmysqlclient-dev"]:
    ensure => installed,
    notify => Service['apache2']
  }
  exec { 'mysql::set_root_password':
    unless  => "mysqladmin -uroot -p${root_password} status",
    command => "mysqladmin -uroot password ${root_password}",
    require => Package['mysql-server'],
  }
}
Does anyone know where my new laravel project directory could be? This is the command I typed: php D:\serv\htdocs\laravel.phar new TestProject and it said 'Application ready! Build something amazing!' But I can't find the TestProject folder
everyone go back to work ...
'noon
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@JoeWatkins no.
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13:09
@JoeWatkins morning :)
@phpcoderx If I had to install laravel, I think I would put it in /dev/null
@JoeWatkins Nah, it's that rare case when I don't have anything to do right now.
@JoeWatkins morning.
@JoeWatkins Implies I was doing some in the first place
@Patrick You mean I should put the laravel.phar file in /dev/null ?
@phpcoderx To rephrase what @Patrick: If he had to program in php he'd use Linux. :)
13:11
Let's say you have a PHP server running and connect to it via websockets, now something has update in the database which was the action of another user/client but the first client needs to be notified, how would you accomplish this? You can hardly have the PHP server constantly polling the database and then when it sees the change it then pushes some data to the client.
@David Also have the action that results in the database update notify other connected clients that a change has occurred in the DB and to fetch it?
@David You can have event listener which will be notified on database action, can't you?
@Leri Can you? in PHP? Please englighten me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_device
I was saying that I would not use laravel
At the moment the action that updates the database is independent of the PHP server that is running
13:15
@David So use interprocess communication, ZeroMQ
@SecondRikudo Since it's websocket server I assume, it's event loop and there's shared memory. :)
@Jimbo I will have to look into this, is it basic enough?
@David With Ratchet in PHP, it's so simple.
I don't know how it would interact with your client of choice
Oh yeah I've heard of that
@Patrick Oh,took me some time to comprehend that. What would you suggest then?
13:20
@phpcoderx plain php. If you are not comfortable with that, probably silex.
@RonniSkansing is Sublime free?
user924016
yes
@RonniSkansing got a link to download?
user924016
but it throws a please buy at you every N time you save
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@JukEboX try searching SublimeText
13:22
argh
stupid MysQL :shakesfist:
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Migrate to PostgreSQL; it's not hard. MySQL needs to die.
@AlmaDo :) ^
@rdlowrey dweeb (:
are you working yet ?
c'mon ... do it ...
@Patrick I am quite comfortable with plain php. But overtime,the code tends to become disorganised,which made me look for a php framework. Should I try and learn MVC?
13:27
You should learn organizing code. That's all those trending names are trying to sell underneath.
Start by learning OOP principles (if you are not going to move to functional programming) and then go to design patterns.
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@rdlowrey any specific reason one should migrate to PostgreSQL,? I got stuck on mysql
user895378
MySQL is terrible for non-blocking async use cases. Postgres supports them out of the box.
user924016
Cool, the closest thing I been to nonblocking is nodejs, but I have not had any need for db yet
@rdlowrey replying here because in danger of veering too far OT on that thread: the new method doesn't particularly break anything about the bridge (which will shortly be renamed Loopio on your advice :-P) because even if POLL_SOCK disappears it's potentially a nice shorthand for read/write at the same time - and there would be problems with POLL_SOCK in the bridge anyway because the interface React won't relay that information.
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Maybe it is time to learn more about it
13:33
For simple read-heavy operations, PostgreSQL can be an over-kill and might appear less performant than the counterparts, such as MySQL.
It still won't go in unless it's in a tagged release though, obviously, that would just be silly
@phpcoderx php frameworks have nothing to do with MVC
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@DaveRandom yeah there's not a react loop with a uv backend at this time anyway so I don't think it would matter anyway. The POLL_SOCK is specific to libuv backends.
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MySQL isn't FOSS. Oracle killed it.
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If you insist on mysql you should use MariaDB.
13:34
and just because you use a framework, it will not make your project magically organized
@rdlowrey However may I suggest that you consider setting the value of ENABLE_NOW to 1, that way it would be easy to change the existing $enableNow args to $flags args (for consistency) in a BC way
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@DaveRandom ah that's smart. I'll do that.
Unit-testing in/for javascript is quite.. meh.. /me needs more javascript
Morning
13:50
Morning
user924016
morning
morning
morning
morning
13:52
E_COMBO_BREAKER
hello, I was told there would be trains?
morning
@Leri You suck
morning
@Kippie No but we do have a noob school bus
13:53
@SecondRikudo Yeah, I could wait few seconds. :Ь
@Leri after writing this I've realized how hard is it to write docs :\ and how I hate that :p
meowrning
@DarkAshelin catster.com/files/post_images/… that's enough onebox for you
gosh I want to be a kitten
LOL @DarkAshelin
13:55
@DaveRandom Damn, that's cute
@AlmaDo Everybody hates it. Well, for the most languages you can autogenerate one from doc-comments (or whatever they are called in their scope).
@Leri in my case.. manual writing. ehm. I didn't realized that there are so many functions. And that is only API-functions. There are also service functions (and many of them), that are used by core only..
@AlmaDo I like the docs theme, what you using?
damn
MySQL Grant privileges are not actually giving privilegs
Published with GitHub Pages
13:58
GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON db.* TO 'newuser'@'localhost';
What am I missing?
FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
ThW
ThW
the flush
@Jimbo mysql-style menu is my own "invention"
@AlmaDo Do you really need to document internal functions (at the first stages)?
@Leri I'm not sure if I should document them even on final stage
14:00
@Jimbo i did that but shows no privileges given
@JukEboX Did you add the new user identified by 'password' first?
GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON db.* TO newuser;
FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
?
new user was created with password yes
CREATE USER 'newuser'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password';
GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON db . * TO 'newuser'@'localhost';
FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
That should be it
"\"Ivan Enderlin\"@Hoaivan.enderlin"@hoa-project.net
^ lolfail
14:03
yeah I did that
unders mysql>user that account shows N accross all privs
because there you see global privileges. while you gave db-specific privileges
what does
SHOW GRANTS FOR newuser
output?
on msql in cmd doesn't show anything
@JukEboX You forgot the ; maybe?
in the CMD prompt?
14:10
In mysql client in shell yes, I presume that's where you are running this?
@DaveRandom yes
Everything must be ; terminated in there or it doesn't execute
If you forget it if carries on to the next line
just press ; and enter and it should execute it
;
if I use the grant line
it tells me access denied for teh user to the database
@JukEboX Are you sure that correct user tries to grant permissions?
hang on
I need to be logged into the mysql with the root account?
crap
brb
14:14
(-:
then organize your code better :)
http://stackoverflow.com/a/16356866/2834339
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14:29
@PeeHaa, first I was denied, now I got it approved! =]
`Your plugin hosting request has been approved.
Within one hour, you will have access to your SVN repository`
Gratz! :D
user924016
never used SVN before..
How do you usually handle authentication in SPA applications (I'm playing angularjs)?
14:42
It's again one of those days:
To whatever framework’s Form component: I hate you. To the authors of those components: huge respect for maintaining that mess :-( #php
@Leri I was in the same situation as you a few weeks ago and most of the implementations were 99% client side, you could easily access the views via URL that were supposed to be secured
@David I thought having server-side language that would serve page views but then I need to somehow manage sessions...
@Leri oauth
@ircmaxell That does not change:
you could easily access the views via URL that were supposed to be secured
@Leri the data for the view must remain serverside, and secured from the server side
otherwise the client already has it
14:50
Hmm, so basically, I should let user take not so useful template even if he'd never see that template in an usual web app. Fair enough.
@rdlowrey overkill? from a puritan PoV it's probably the best way to deal with the problem
note that when writing that I've uncovered an issue with Addr, I'll put another release out shortly
I just posted to FIG on one of their ideas.
Now I need to be vigilant so I don't get sucked into another time-sink ^^
@LeviMorrison Isn't it a little early for drinking?
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shameless-plug.. yay my uninstall wordpress plugin can now be downloaded directly from within wordpress =] wordpress.org/plugins/uninstall
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@DaveRandom looks good. I can't merge for a few hours anyway (real work). Just keep me posted.
14:55
@RonniSkansing Sweet!
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Does OPcache intercept file loads when you do "include 'someFile.php';" ?
Eh, I haven't heard back from Northeast PHP Conference people on whether or not my talk has been accepted. I seem to remember it would be decided by the 15th; maybe they operate on the "If you didn't hear back you are rejected" philosophy.
hey guys, have you ever used codeigniter? I have an Iframe and I want to get out of it
Anyone here found a really flexible solution to dealing with addresses and all the different formats they come in? I'm building an application where uses can signup from any country in the world. US has the state field other places have province etc
15:04
@MoshMage We can help you get out of CodeIgniter if you want.
@SecondRikudo yeah.. it's kind'of mandatory :\
@MoshMage Linux?
@SecondRikudo yes, the server is in linux but.. I don't see how that helps my geting out of iframe :x
@MoshMage those two things are completely unrelated
1. Open terminal
2. cd to your CodeIgniter directory
3. sudo rm -rf *
4. Profit
15:09
dude... what part of *mandatory* was incomprehensible to you? :|
It's not like *i chose* to use this shitty framework, it is *mandatory* to whom I'm doing this for..
@MoshMage Chill, I'm jokin
@SecondRikudo my bad for bursting. Apologies.
What would you call a 'mapper' method that maps a bunch of entities into a sort of set? Maybe it's not even a mapper...
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@SecondRikudo I like what you just did there
@Jimbo fetchMany
or getMany
15:11
@SecondRikudo I like the fetch part, cheers
@SecondRikudo Would you also call that a mapper?
well, thanks anyway. I'll keep mashing my head against a wall ^^'
@Jimbo Is it responsible for moving data between your objects and your persistence layer?
@SecondRikudo No, it's responsible for asking for some data from the persistence layer (it gets the data from a Repository) and placing these into another object
@Jimbo How is that different from what I said?
Wait
That might mean yes..
LOL
@SecondRikudo It's almost the end of the day. Yes x)
15:17
If so, it's a mapper.
It maps data from one source to another
will $_COOKIE["something"]++ not update the actual cookie?
@SecondRikudo :|
Anyone know how to return doctrine entities as simple entities and not all the extra stuff that comes with them?
You mean Doctrine does more than you want it to? Shocking.
@Jimbo what extra stuff?
All the em and that
Using Query builder, it would be nice if I could get the plain and simple Entity object back
15:32
I has returned
Basically, the object with my methods and properties. And nothing else that doctrine adds
Ok so this is weired
Access denied; you need at least one of the CREATE USER privilages for thsi operation
??
Question about DIC
If I have a Dispatcher that takes a Route object and handles instantiating the controller and calling of the action, does it make sense to inject the DIC to it to handle the dependencies of the controller I am creating?
@Jimbo are you selecting an object? I never noticed anything else coming back
@Jimbo I was thinking about starting to use Doctrine lately, what's you opinion of it? There is something about it that puts me off, it seems to be extremely big or something
15:35
@David Yeah it has a private em property
I'm in a confusion. Please don't downvote the answer.. but please explain me, why it is wrong? stackoverflow.com/a/24236858/1853133
@PrateekGupta Because that's not how session hijacking work
but i tried this on fb. And i hijacked a session :(
@PrateekGupta Hijacking a session doesn't allow you to change the parameters inside.
You can only ever know the session ID, not the actual variables inside.
I know that we can't read the actual variables
15:41
@PrateekGupta That is not what is implied from your answer.
but all session variables lies under a single session ..
@PrateekGupta By hijacking a session, you can impersonate someone to the server
You cannot read session variables
I said the same.. :/ That u can't read session variables bt u can copy SessionId?
What is SHOW GRANTS supposed to do. It doesn't show anything
@SecondRikudo this sounds like a case where you should be doing the DI in the manual way
15:45
@tereško How do you inject the services then?
well ... ok ... I probably stated this a bit wrong
nevermind, I am too tired .. I just hate dispatchers as a breed
@PrateekGupta Also, how does changing the session's cookie name supposed to solve anything?
@SecondRikudo What about a controller factory? That's what I do
@tereško How do you handle ACL?
by wrapping it
15:47
nope @SecondRikudo but u can reduce the possibility. Facebook do the same.
@tereško Dispatcher :)
@SecondRikudo no
@PrateekGupta I can see all cookie names in my console log, someone watching your traffic can easily see any and all cookie names.
ARGH
@DaveRandom @Jimbo I am a littel confused as to what I am doing wrong here
@tereško Oh, I see what you mean
15:49
"dispatcher" is an antipatten which gathers data, create instance and executes methods on them. It is usually the main part of framework which frustrates me, because it forces you to mess with core classes to have any alteration in how controllers are created and how methods on them are executed
A decorator
Hmm that make sense.
@RonniSkansing does sublime have FTP installed?
@bwoebi I think it would be better to bring this to the list first, otherwise people will ask why did we change it and we should explain anyways.
@JukEboX no
there is a package which does that, but people usually use 3rd party tools for it
15:54
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Q: How do I set a constraint to a RequestParam annotation in FosRestBundle

GordonI am trying to get a Validator/Constraint working as a requirement in a RequestParam annotation in a controller. Both, the RequestParam and the PasswordPolicy is included via use statements in the controller. @RequestParam( name = "password", description = "New Password", requirements = @P...

HALP!! shameless plug
guys! I found out "how", I'll share it in case anyone asks:
I just echo'ed `echo "<script>window.parent.location.href=""</script>";`
funny enough, it was because @SecondRikudo told me to delete codeigniter :x
@tereško is there an editor like Sublime that has FTP installed?
Sublime can have ftp plugins
... just don't upload the configuration files to your github account and you'll be fine ;D
@JukEboX could you please use the fucking search ? sublime.wbond.net/search/ftp
Hi guys, how are you doing. I have been having issues with PHP from converting my mysql queries to mysqli..... they aren't inserting and it's really bugging me as I can't work out whats up.
Would I be able to post an example?

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