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04:38
@AaronHall , Great bro. :0
@RakeshKumar and you?
@AaronHall, It seems Diablo II old days game
These days PUBG trending completely at high pace and Call of Duty. :D
Reached at office now and I had an issue from past week and trying to fix that
XMPP issue*
05:06
@RakeshKumar the speed runners are still getting better and setting world records, so I still enjoy watching from time to time...
 
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Tim
Tim
12:01
@AaronHall Which languages does your machine learning course use? May I look at the course website?
 
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14:28
@Tim we have a huge internal subscription to pluralsight, and I think this is pushed as part of a drive to use what we have. So we're using the short course titled "Building Machine Learning Models in Python with scikit-learn" by Janani Ravi. It's not perfect, a couple of small misstatements in the first session, in fact, which makes me hesitant to recommend it myself. But it has data everyone where I work can download and use, so we're using it.
Tim
Tim
14:49
oh thanks. Is Spark not used for data science, as Scikit learn is, correct? Or does Spark not have a future as bright as some alternatives?
I am considering whether to learn Scala for Spark. But I don't know if Spark has a bright future or is being at disadvantage relative some alternatives. I don't know if Scala has a bright future wrt alternative languages either.
@Tim we're a bunch of engineers who work on a Python platform - so that's why we're using a Python based course.
Tim
Tim
Do you have some insights about Spark and Scala?
Whether to start learning them or something else.
I am wondering about which technologies to pick up, for career
Not really because I haven't used it yet. I understand it's for distributed analysis. My group has got its own home-grown Python based distributed computing, so we've kinda ruled Spark out for that purpose. Other groups are using it, as I understand it, though.
Tim
Tim
Interesting. What libraries is your group's Python based distributed computing based on, if not spark-python?
Have you learned Haskell for distributed computing? I am on Haskell right now, and I learn it for later maybe switching to some language with more career opportunities, like Scala. I also heard that to learn Scala just learn Scala, don't need to learn Haskell first.
"home-grown" - it uses a dag memoization framework that rewrites Python methods so we can theoretically only calculate what we need to when we need to (with references to Haskell as inspiration in the documentation).
@Tim based on Maslow's hierarchy - if you're trying to get into industry, and Haskell is an ideal goal, I'd recommend going with what you see being advertised for junior devs - Python is one of them. When you get that job, you then have the luxury of learning Haskell to the point you'd be an attractive hire for a Haskell shop.
Python is very deep. To know it as a deep expert, you need to be able to read C and its implementation.
Of course you don't need that depth to be productive.
Tim
Tim
15:14
Do you mean Python is deeper than Haskell? In what sense?
@Tim oh, no, not at all. Apples and Oranges. The problem is that Haskell is the orange everyone wants to eat but nobody wants to peel, and Python hardly requires a rinse and you can just bite into it - it's supply and demand.
To avoid going out on a limb, let me explain myself in words everyone would agree is reasonable - Python takes less effort to learn and less effort cost for a organization that might hire you to extract value from.
To get hireable on a language, you need to know it well enough to pass interviews. I'm thinking the bar is lower for Python.
Tim
Tim
Thanks. Is it correct that "the short course titled Building Machine Learning Models in Python with scikit-learn by Janani Ravi" might help to get one hireable on Python and data science? What books or learning resources do you know which might be helpful either more or similarly to the course for the same purpose?
15:30
@Tim I would not say that. :) People do months-long bootcamps trying to learn all this stuff and still have trouble getting hired (at what they think they're worth, anyways.)
16:29
@Tim so what exactly are you looking for?
16:58
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Q: What does error Type mismatch, expected: _$1, actual: Any in scala signify?

sashasI have a scenario similar to the following example // Reads from somewhere and returns List of type A trait Reader[A] { def read(): List[A] } // Transforms element of type A, performs some operation // and converts result to string trait Translator[A] { def translate(a: A): String } o...

any help is appreciated
Tim
Tim
@AaronHall I want to do data science, and distributed computing. I have the feeling that Spark is the standard of data science on big data. But I am not so sure, since there is also tensor flow, keras, scikit learn, .... Consequently, I guess I have to learn Scala and Python, and R. Which shall I choose for what?
Scala has mixed reviews on the Internet. Some said it is falling out of flavor. I am not sure whether to learn Scala, and to learn Haskell for better understanding Scala.
I would put off R indefinitely, perhaps you can put it off altogether.
Then the question becomes Scala vs Python. I'd assert Python has the lowest hanging fruit. Scala may be more performant if you write your code correctly.
I think both have strong pros and minor cons. They're also complementary.
You can access Spark from Python.
Some employers (like mine) use them both.

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