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Wes
12:00 AM
@Alesana why?
worried about dust or liquids?
 
 
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2:19 AM
@Wes I shouldn't eat over my computer
But I do
:P
 
Wes
so just random food or worried about liquids? :P
 
Wes
2:30 AM
youtube.com/watch?v=FdqBAVTJ4hw @Alesana spill proof keyboards, k68 and k66
happen to be also among the cheapest mechanical keyboards out there
i wouldn't trust them to be 100% spill proof, but they are way more protected than most keyboards
also they pretty comfortable
the other mechanical keyboard i had was like half a cm taller
 
2:55 AM
Ohh nice
Random food mainly
But also liquids wouldn't be ideal
I did it with my actual laptop keyboard but yeah I was just looking at standalone keyboards
 
Wes
if you get a keycap puller it's super easy to clean also
 
3:25 AM
Stack Overflow in zend_try_compile_cv ・ Scripting Engine problem ・ #80183
 
Interesting I didn't know those existed
 
Wes
3:41 AM
pretty useful yeah. otherwise you risk bending the plastic of the switches
 
The key caps on one of my keyboards comes off ridiculously easy
A few key caps on my other keyboard come off kind of easy... but not many
 
Wes
i bought the key cap puller after i bent the plastic of one of my old keyboard switches... basically i wasn't pulling the keycap straight up and i bent the switch housing :(
i was removing them with fingers... bad idea
 
Yeah. I used to have one but I'm not sure where I put it.
The one I had was pretty simple. It was plastic and had an O ring to where I could put my finger through. Made the process easy.
 
4:12 AM
this chat group is dead? is thiis true?
 
4:25 AM
@Jerson it seems to be more active during about 6am UTC to about midnight.....but it's also the weekend.
I'm just dumping this as a bookmark/interesting concept - github.com/all-contributors/all-contributors
 
 
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6:35 AM
How can I select an attribute in Chrome developer tool that contains a hyphen? For example //*[@text-visible = 'true']
 
6:48 AM
Has anyone worked with AWS serverless Lambda before? I'm not getting why my Postman doesn't let me access my deployed GET endpoint while my GET endpoint could be accessed directly from the browser. CORS is enabled.
 
 
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9:12 AM
o/
 
9:42 AM
@Crell are you gonna propose the enums rfc?
 
10:22 AM
How should I reason about such code? Why does it work? 3v4l.org/3QrbJ
 
cmb
@OndřejMirtes PHP compiles the script before it's run. There is no special provision for exit during compilation.
 
Wes
also that's valid only for top level definitions 3v4l.org/fvBmm
@StatikStasis how does resident evil remaster compare to the original resident evil?
 
 
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12:07 PM
@OndřejMirtes there's a relevant question at stackoverflow.com/questions/27211326/…
 
12:32 PM
PHP Warning: stream_socket_accept(): accept failed: Connection timed out - is there an inherent 1250000 seconds timeout to accept??
 
12:43 PM
hi
 
12:58 PM
Complex expression in while / if statements resolves to false incorrectly ・ opcache ・ #80184
 
Hey @bwoebi. Can I use your eyes and hands and brain for a second please
We have been trying to set up ssl for gitamp, but keep hitting
> TLS handshake error with 88.230.231.62:55291: Unable to set private key file
I am loading the fullchain from letsencrypt. I think permissions are set up correctly
I tried kicking it
 
Did you try turning it off and on again?
 
Yep. Even resorted to that
I am all out of tricks :(
 
I have a problem in mysql trigger I need someone helps chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/222464/mysql
 
eeeek separate room
 
1:07 PM
yeah because it's a long question
 
Thanks @bwoebi rubber ducky
 
In database it's wrong to create a column for Remaining money after withdraw transaction from the salary in the transaction table true? (Fires up normalization rules)
 
1:24 PM
@PeeHaa lol
 
:D
 
\o/ gitamp.ekins.space works now
 
Just in time for the next rewrite amp v3 :P
 
:D
 
1:48 PM
@salathe Thanks for hacktoberfest-accepted!
 
Is that what it needs to be tagged with now? cc @Ekin
 
2:02 PM
@Ekin @JoeWatkins in background?
 
JAAS? Joe as a Service
 
JAML Joe as Music Listening
 
I knew a Jaas
 
That's awful. I like it!
 
Is that the opposite of "thanks, I hate it"?
 
2:16 PM
I guess so :)
 
New r11 inside joke
 
@Tpojka heh yup, sitting on the server, playing notes
 
Just like that. :D
 
Hey, it works on mobile too, cool
Is there size of the circle determined by the size of the push/PR?
Or just random?
 
I think its seeded random based on the event payload
 
2:37 PM
Neat
 
3:10 PM
\o/ multi line arrows
Hell yas
> Overall, seems like unnecessary added syntax for something that already
works just fine.
O.o
"just fine"
 
Tbh I'm with Marco on that one, I'm not super keen on the extension
Mostly due to the auto-scope capture
 
Which is exactly what makes it so awesome for me
I use anon function all over the place
And not having auto closing is pretty terrible
 
I mean I see, why it's useful, I just think it can make stuff confusing, with a one-liner closure there is no ambiguity really, 2liner too, but with 50 lines meh
 
You probably are not used to closures?
 
See, I disagree on that bit, I think it is the sane design choice of not having auto-caputure because you're having an implicit dependency on a variable
I don't use them because I hated the callback hell from back in the day of JS
which got somewhat better
 
3:24 PM
I end up having to always import them all
 
But yeah I don't use them often
 
Which is just stuipid
 
Yeah, that's a PITA, dunoo if a use (all) or whatnot construct would be better
 
And if you do not want auto capture you can still use normal anon functions
 
Okay, I think I figured out my SplFixedArray issue. It's wrongly caching the get_properties call.
Need to figure out if it's possible to cache correctly or just skip the cache.
 
4:01 PM
@PeeHaa counterpoint, you probably are not used to having to read other people's closures?
 
I think I am
Dunno
Maybe spoiled by less insanity though
:)
 
I have a new insult I will practice on you now.
"why don't you go write a blog post about it?"
apparently this 'kills' with 'the kids'.
 
:P
 
@Sjon when is rc1 branch coming please?
 
@NikiC For SplFixedArray I need to keep properties and array values separate. My first attempt dup's the properties array, adds the values, and returns that. However, it leaks. I suppose I need to separate get_properties and get_properties_for? I'm not sure exactly when get_properties is called currently though, so it might be a BC break to not add values to the properties array.
 
4:44 PM
Sorry, was talking about SplFixedArrays's get_properties.
It merges the array's values into the properties table.
So if you var_export it then it's properties table is "corrupted", in that you can't tell anymore the difference between properties and array values.
 
4:58 PM
I'm assuming this was all written with the perspective that properties weren't allowed.
 
5:15 PM
It's probably too late to ban extension and dynamic properties altogether. I guess just do damage control?
There are definitely bugs in this space of export/serialize for SplFixedArray :(
 
5:32 PM
@Danack Current plan is to branch in nine days, on the 13th.
 
@Sara ....I apparently said branch. I meant version, for 3v4l as I wanted to check bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=80184
but thanks.
 
ah :)
Now it makes sense why you directed that question :)
 
6:10 PM
@Crell Small status update: github.com/php/php-src/compare/master...iluuu1994:enums (Everything in the test is implemented, but nothing more). There might be an ambiguity with using :: in instanceof (or rather something that requires lookahead), I'm not sure yet. Anyway, I'm planning to work on it for at least a few hours a week.
Right now there's not much to play with, but as soon as there is it'd be great if you could help with the tests and whatnot.
 
7:04 PM
jdtounix not work after 2037 ・ *Calendar problems ・ #80185
 
 
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8:17 PM
Hey @Ocramius
fancy saying some encouraging words about chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/50605382#50605382 ?
/or not.
 
@Danack I can confirm I am able to reproduce it with a simpler example: 3v4l.org/mUd3F#output
 
@Dharman hmm? That has the same output for all the versions, which isn't what the bug says....
 
Also I get a segmentation fault
Not on 3v4l
You need to have opcache enable and execute it twice
the first time it show the correct output, but everytime after that it shows only 1 iteration
 
ah oops.
 
and the segmentation fault happens in a slightly altered scenario
 
Wes
8:32 PM
\o
 
@Danack no idea what I'm looking at there: might as well be arab /cc @Dharman
 
Do you mean you have no idea what my change does?
 
yeah
needs associated test case
 
It basically adds an optional parameter to mysqli_stmt::execute() so that you can turn this $stmt->bind('s', ...['val']); $stmt->execute() into $stmt->execute(['val'])
I was going to write a proper test case today and some more explanation but I got distracted by that cool bug report
 
Segfault when iterating over FFI object ・ Reproducible crash ・ #80186
 
Wes
8:43 PM
some months ago took a code decision and i planned doing it... now i am actually doing it but i realized it would come at expense of something else.... so i have to decide again if it's worth doing, but i forgot why i took that decision in the first place. super frustrating
specifically i don't remember whether an aspect of this was actually needed for something, or it was just me wishing to implement stuff i don't actually need
it will take a lot to figure out :(
 
@Wes possibly write it down for future reference when you do figure it out?
 
9:00 PM
@Wes Decision logs come handy in these times :D
 
Wes
i said that wrong. what's actually frustrating is that now i have to figure out if it was me wanting to implement unneeded stuff
i am such a piece of shit
 
just don't implement it? and wait until you need it?
 
9:29 PM
What's the difference between zend_hash's add and add_new variants?
e.g. https://heap.space/xref/php-src/Zend/zend_hash.h?r=87104292#119-120
 
Wes
i mean i do need the thing, it's just one aspect of it that i'm unsure of
 
8 hours... it just took me 8 hours to get nvenc working.
If someone would just step in and beat me to death with a Tesla T5 that'd be appreciated
 
9:57 PM
Is there a simple way to check if hash is non-empty?
 
@LeviMorrison add_new requires that the key is not in the hashtable yet
 
Thanks. Probably what I want in this case.
 
Wes
11:00 PM
is google search broken also for you if you search from the url bar in chrome?
 
nope
 
11:32 PM
@Ocramius I have written something github.com/php/php-src/pull/6271 I am going to bed now...
 
Wes
i swear RC->getProperties() used to return private properties of parent classes
was that changed/fixed?
 
11:52 PM
@NikiC Look good to you? github.com/php/php-src/pull/6261. If so tomorrow I'll rebase and merge it in.
Also, suggestions welcome on the error messages.
 

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