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Wes
4:01 PM
@Sean it's buffered by default
 
@Fabor it's a tekken 3 action-adventure
great
 
Wes
unbuffered is not really unbuffered, data is accessible while the buffer is being written
 
I never heard of it before
 
Wes
while other databases can destroy the records as they get traversed
unbuffered in mysql afaik also prevents you to do multiple queries while an unbuffered one is still being traversed
 
Regression in preg_match makes it fail with PREG_JIT_STACKLIMIT_ERROR – #76514
 
Wes
4:03 PM
^ this might not be updated with recent mysql versions :B
 
@pmmaga hmm, from what might be on sale? Let's see: Pillars of Eternity, Ruiner, Original Sin 2, Prey, Tokyo 42, Hollow Knight, Northgard and Endless Space 2
 
Morning.
 
@tereško Nice. I only know a few, I'll check out the others
 
4:22 PM
@Jeeves I'll take "evil things Jordi is doing with preg" for $600.
 
4:48 PM
@tereško Ecstatic!
 
@NikiC There's one thing I'm missing in the RFC regarding the property initialization alternative: why don't we default nullable types to null? You answered thequestion about why no default nullability, but not why nullables shan't default to null.
 
@bwoebi right, should add that
 
5 minutes til Steam Summer Sale hopefully...
 
compulsively hits f5
 
4:57 PM
I KNOW!
Longest 5 minutes!!
!!reminder STEAM SUMMER SALE HAS BEGUN in 2 minutes
 
Reminder 43002998 is set.
 
I'm off work. Wife is not home. I'm buying a few games!
 
@StatikStasis STEAM SUMMER SALE HAS BEGUN
 
YES!!!!!!
 
hello
all
 
5:04 PM
ONI went back up $5.00 =/
 
<meta name="Description" content="The Steam Winter Sale is on now, featuring great discounts on thousands of incredible games.">
Nice copy/pasta Valve!
 
I want to upload my a local website called webapp in under xampp/http to 000webhost server so what folders I should upload
brb
 
Their servers cannot handle the load...
Little better now.
 
@bwoebi Which issue did you end up working on?
 
5:20 PM
@StatikStasis lol yeah, that's quite slow
 
Probably will improve in an hour. I'm afraid to check out...
lol- you ever go to add a game only to see "In Library"... oh... well I guess I will play that later... again. @FélixGagnon-Grenier
 
lol
yeah, I remember feeling that
 
@NikiC none yet, got distracted by life :-/
And then writing mails and discussing
 
5:34 PM
@StatikStasis I don't understand you
 
Talking about the Steam Summer Sale.
 
mmm
I want to upload my a local website called webapp in under xampp/htdoc to 000webhost server
I want some guide
 
@Webdev you should use google to find stuff like that. This room is not a good place to ask very general questions. If you have a specific question we could help, but for learning how to do general stuff like that, not so much.
 
You could almost generalise that anyone's first 2-3 years you won't encounter a problem that can't be googled.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Checkout finally went though. It paused for a longtime in between screens but eventually I guess my queue came up and it processed to the next screen all the way to completion.
Got ONI and finally bought the Steam Hardware because I have been wanting to try it out.
 
5:44 PM
@Fabor possibly with the exception of when someone doesn't know the name for something...
 
ONI's quite cool
omg. it does look like typed properties will make it!!!!
can't wait for the dic based auto constructors
 
/me can wait for that
:P
 
for what?
 
@ircmaxell Did any of the mental illnesses I posted or that website I linked the other day assist any with your question?
 
@StatikStasis to an extent. I did add a section on Mental Illness, but I was looking more for non-disorder effects (Impostor Syndrome, "Real Programmer", etc)
 
5:53 PM
God complex
 
That's the current deck I have
weird, it converted the PDF into a png
 
I can view- reading through now...
Is this for a presentation you're giving?
 
yes
 
I thought Adjustment Disorder might have been a good one.
aka situational depression
 
Don't know if there's a syndrome associated but the notion of your code being your baby. I find people defend code they wrote and dislike criticism of any kind. Maybe... the Otwell Effect?
 
5:59 PM
Narcissistic Programmeritis
 
I pick and choose my battles when talking about other peoples code.
 
@ircmaxell The word judgmental- I believe you have it spelled judgemental on the slide.
Good on you for using oxford commas!
 
Wouldn't it be awesome if there's a judge out there with the last name "Mental"?
 
@StatikStasis added in the general mental health section
@StatikStasis yeah, that's something I do as often as possible
 
oh ok- I haven't got that far yet.
 
6:03 PM
 
@StatikStasis no, I mean right this second, I added it on my coipy
 
oh ok
I think I align somewhere in between impostor syndrome and the "fake it until you make it" scale most of the time.
 
evenin
 
@ircmaxell This looks really good. I'd be interested in watching it if it is recorded and uploaded.
@mega6382 Hey mega!
 
@Fabor not going to fire shots there anymore
 
6:10 PM
@ircmaxell heh, it's indeed not all that necessary :)
 
tho it is a good one
@StatikStasis Thanks!!!
 
@ircmaxell heh that's fair enough but I do see that code-defense trait often.
 
oh, as do I
 
@tereško Bought ONI! Looking forward to playing it later after I get a few things done around the house.
 
@ircmaxell You've mentioned terraform before. We use it where I am now. I need to understand it better. Terraform and AWS. Got any recommendations for starting or should I just cast a wide net? Is there one I should focus on before the other too?
 
6:13 PM
@Fabor I do too, can you help me find something written about it?
 
Sure I can peek around.
 
@Fabor honestly, I'd recommend reading their docs.
think of it as a meta-code for configuring infrastructure
so instead of writing "setup this server, install this", you declare resources. Then terraform takes those declarations and turns them into instructions
and since it knows the state of the infrastructure, it can figure out how to make changes (so if you change a service, it knows how to change it)
 
I see. I look over the old guys work and it seems like a huge aws cloudformation resource does most of the work. Every other resource is small, mostly just setup/definition.
 
Seems relevant
Pretty sure your presentation will have people thinking a lot about specific work colleagues. Of course perhaps it's better for people not to look outward and diagnose others but look inwards and see if they are perpetrators.
You can't change others but you can always change yourself.
 
6:25 PM
I'm talking a lot about how I struggle with each one of these
 
That's good. $reflection = new ReflectionClass('ircmaxell');
 
lol
 
@Fabor I am the only one in my group and i am still the least productive that i can be.
 
Mildly related Social Facilitation. Familiar group tasks = high productivity. Unfamiliar = low.
Social Inhibition - Unwillingness to displease others. AKA not @tereško
 
6:46 PM
@bwoebi Btw, from my experience it's usually better not to participate in discussions unless you think that some point has actual merit.
 
@StatikStasis be warned: there is a learning curve
 
@NikiC I think Nicolas Grekas had some valid point though
 
Engaging in arguments puts you unnecessarily on the defensive
@bwoebi Yes, that was more of a general note ;)
Nicolas Grekas has a valid point. But someone asking for types on local variables doesn't
 
@NikiC Yeah, I agree
Wasn't necessary to answer him
Though sometimes I just reply once and then don't continue the argument if he tries to
 
@tereško Approve my Steam invite when you have a moment.
 
7:12 PM
I am always here if someone needs some strong words sending.
 
why the hell is there a "National" day for selfies?
 
I'm free! \o/
 
@Allenph new job?
 
Not yet. But I turned in my two weeks.
 
:D
 
7:20 PM
Ill advised, but I have savings and I hate my life. Rofl.
 
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
 
You're free in two-weeks you mean.
 
Can't see those.
 
@Fabor Meh. Knowing this place they'll probably pay me tomorrow and kick me out.
 
7:20 PM
Now you can spend your savings on steam sales and enjoy the free time to complete the games.
 
I have a project I haven't been able to get the PCB right for for months.
Time to get the CNC machine back out.
 
I think Steam has completely crashed now.
 
Go on sale and then shut your servers off. #WasteTheirTime2018
 
server's pingable, and curl throws a 301
 
7:28 PM
@Allenph Why would you quit before having another job if you were making a good salary? Couldn't wait until you found something else?
 
@StatikStasis sanity is priceless
 
Now down for everyone or just me is down... probably all the customers from Steam checking.
 
I think their store runs on PHP :x
 
@StatikStasis lol, was wondering if it was down
 
back up!
down again
This has to cost them a lot in impulse purchases.
 
7:32 PM
@StatikStasis Tiffany is correct. I've been wrestling with myself for a year.
 
I'm in the same boat :D
 
If that were a real physical store, people would literally be trampled at the entrance right now
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier it's sad, but you're right
 
Like Black Friday sale customers
 
7:34 PM
worse
 
Someone broke my arm on Black Friday once.
 
Black Friday is primarily a US phenomenon, Steam sale is international
 
It was pretty insane.
 
@Allenph why.......
 
I've seen some Black Friday stuff in other countries.
 
7:36 PM
@StatikStasis in recent times, yes
 
@Tiffany I usually don't go to Black Friday. My uncle just really wanted to get his wife some pyrex something or other that she said she wanted. I waited, and got it and some dude who got there late to the party slammed me into a shelf and broke my arm.
 
I think some of the worst videos I saw were in South America.
 
but it's usually been piggy-backing off the US
@Allenph damn O_O
file charges against him, or wasn't worth it?
 
Definitely worth it.
I hope he did.
 
I didn't. I'm sure you know why.
 
7:38 PM
not really
oh... mormon country?
 
Wes
\o
 
@Tiffany Anarchist.
o/
@Wes Have you forgiven me yet?
 
what's that have to do with protecting yourself and potentially someone else from an asshat?
 
@Allenph that's... scary
 
@Allenph damn, how worse was it?
 
Wes
7:40 PM
for what
 
It was pretty bad. It looked like I had two elbows.
It was one of those things you don't realize happen, and then I looked down and my arm was not where it felt like it was.
 
:S
 
so did you get the pyrex thing?
 
lol
 
I hope the store gave it to you for free
 
7:41 PM
I did indeed. Rofl.
They did not.
 
Did the guy know he broke it?
 
Who knows. He took off.
For all I know it was an accident. There were a billion people.
 
I hate this story... =/
/r/ProRevenge
 
@Tiffany What if it was an accident? What if he took me to court? Etc.
 
7:45 PM
@Allenph even if it were an accident...
 
Besides the police are actually extremely ineffectual. They never would have caught him...probably wouldn't have even looked.
 
but if there was enough force to break your arm to the point that it looked like you had another elbow, I feel like he did it intentionally
@Allenph regardless, you report him
it goes on his record
if he does something else violent in the future, there's already a record against him
 
I don't want to get all political (teresko may be lurking), but suffice to say, I don't agree with it and I didn't report him.
 
think of it like this: protecting other people
one of the reasons why victims of sexual assault/harassment are pushed to report their offenders, even if the offender isn't caught, there's at least a record against the person in case they assault another person in the future
 
@Wes Don't know. Feels like we used to talk all the time. Feel like I've annoyed you a bit.
@Tiffany I digress.
 
Wes
7:47 PM
???
ah lol, you need to apologize to @FélixGagnon-Grenier
 
@Tiffany He doesn't believe in the government, and Judiciary is part of the government.
 
@Wes I did.
 
Wes
i often say unfortunate things too so no prob
meanwhile croatia is annihilating argentina. lol
 
steamdb.info/sales I guess this works, can't buy anything, but can at least see what's on sale
 
@Allenph ...you're in a militia... aren't you?
@Tiffany Steam is working great for me now.
 
7:55 PM
No. I don't believe in violence unless it's necessary.
 
Sweet Jesus, I am laughing so hard at this. #lovecraftiannightmare
2
 
be back later
 
yeah, definitely epic
 
indeed
had to cover my mouth from laughing
 
8:14 PM
I got this image of Doctor Octopus from Spiderman as the claw machine.
 
That's kind of funny. That's exactly what I thought of too.
 
Oooo, an expansion to Grim Dawn
...but I still need to beat the first one
shit yessss, they added a necromancer mastery, definitely buying it
 
8:34 PM
I am fairly sure valgrind is mis-reporting an uninitialized value. Something is wrong because on the line that is supposedly triggering the read of an uninitialized value the reported address is not in play.
 
Fallout New Vegas £2.63
Half Life £0.71
It's both amazing and sad :( All these classics are like the bargain bin section of steam sales.
 
Is it just me or did Fallout 4 blow?
 
hi, quick question, how do I get fetch the end of a user session (ie, when the user goes offline or off the site)
 
@Allenph Sadly it wasn't Skyrim. But still not too bad. I buy them to mod more than anything else.
 
I've redone Skyrim a bunch of times.
 
8:42 PM
I got the begin time but I also want the end time to calculate the time spent on the page
 
event detection or something? like in the case the user closes the tab or browser, or detect that the user isn't accessing the page somehow, maybe IP?
I don't know how to do it in PHP, just bouncing ideas
 
Any time someone post a screenshot I have to look and judge their tabs and bookmarks.
 
@MisterGeeky You could send an AJAX request with onbeforeunload.
Erm, I guess you have to make a synchronous request, but...you get the idea.
 
@Tiffany exactly what i had in mind.
@Allenph trying, not working out.
 
Did you do it async?
 
8:57 PM
why is there is no built-in way of telling if someone has left your site
 
Apparently you have to do it sync.
Pretty sure that's what that event is for my dude.
 
Good evening. My name is Andy. I’ve been using CSS since 2001. I’ve written four books on CSS. I’ve given over 100 workshops on CSS. I just spent 10 minutes figuring out why broder-width would not work.
5
 
@ircmaxell lol, that is so hilarious
 
lol
 
@Danack that hits home...
 
9:06 PM
flaot is my all time favourite....
 
ThW
@bwoebi Well, PHPStorm highlights that...
 
@ThW style="<?=$cond?"broder-width: 1em" : ""?>"
 
ThW
inline css shudder
but it is possible
I think
 
@ThW most of the css I write is inline, and then the designers chase after me with bats, because they have to fix everything. :P
 
9:11 PM
I just gave the talk about mental health and impostor syndrome and all that. 2 minutes into the talk, in another slack channel, someone posts glassdoor.com/blog/eric-yuan-zoom
 
ThW
@bwoebi <div style="<?=$cond? /** @lang CSS */ "broder-width: 1em" : ""?>"></div>
 
ugh
 
ThW
@mega6382 You're creating HTML mails?
 
@ThW No, actually I work on the backend, and on the frontend something like sass or less, and whenever I want to edit some design temporarily or whatever, I will just write it inline instead of in the sass or less files so I won't have to rebuild the whole thing, and then the frontend guys will see it and get angry at me and then they will have to fix it by adding classes and moving the styles to the proper places.
etc
 
ThW
@mega6382 I would suggest to just add a 'dev.css', fill that up as you work and let the designer to clean it up (moving the styles into the global less/sass files)
 
9:22 PM
If I was the designer, I would also be pissed.
 
@ThW Yeah, thats not such a bad idea.
 
ThW
If you feel generous you could even add some comments to describe the reason for the added styles ;-)
like a ticket number
 
Yeah, I am too lazy for that. :P
 
Hello all
 
@mega6382 I don't blame them
 
9:30 PM
@Tiffany neither do i, as a matter of fact.
 
I see No Man's Sky has "Mostly Positive" reviews for recent reviews. Has it got better?
 
Should I upload all htdocs folder of xampp or www of wampp and appserv to the server on the internet or just my website folder?
 
@Webdev just upload what you need.
 
well
 
@StatikStasis Heard it's pretty repetitive.
 
9:32 PM
@mega6382 No need for htdocs/index.php file?
 
@Webdev If its not going to be used on the server then NO.
 
Wes
that's a strange question
 
@Wes My question
?
 
Wes
yeah
 
@Allenph hmm... it seems like such a neat concept.
 
Wes
9:36 PM
maybe i am missing some context
 
@Wes No, I don't think you are.
 
@Wes What strange with it
 
@Wes But I am sure that he is missing some context.
 
4 hours ago, by Danack
@Webdev you should use google to find stuff like that. This room is not a good place to ask very general questions. If you have a specific question we could help, but for learning how to do general stuff like that, not so much.
 
@StatikStasis no
it just has acquired people, who play it while listening to podcasts/audiobooks
also, DDoS is real
 
9:45 PM
@Danack ok but I tried to ask a specific question
 
@bwoebi are you around? Could do with borrowing your brain for 5 mins if you have them to lend
 
@Webdev what he means with "general questions" are things that have answer in first 4 google reulsts
 
ok
 
basically, search first and then ask here
ya know, the irc-rules
(fuck, I guess most of people think that IRC is just a misspelling of IIRC ... I am too old)
 
@DaveRandom I like to retain my brain, but I can share a few thoughts :-P
 
9:55 PM
hmm ... this is a pretty good wine in the dirt-cheap pricing range
 
I have no idea how you drink wine every night. I did it last night and remembered why I never do that this morning.
 
@DaveRandom so what's up?
 
@Allenph I am a mix of norse, latgalian, curonians and romanian bloodlines .. you can refer to it a genetic superiority
 

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