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Wes
12:01 AM
is youtube broken also for you?
all videos play twice the speed and they are not in sync with the audio
 
12:27 AM
are you still using Flash?
 
Wes
no
 
videos play fine for me in Firefox. Let me try Chrome.
works fine
Could it be a browser extension or userscript that you have for YouTube? I know mine I had to disable since it got broken when YouTube did their recent UI change.
 
Wes
@bwoebi are you around? gist.github.com/Netmosfera/de2af2bc0a679770b3242ce52e89ec06 shouldn't the former run faster than the latter?
assuming that valid key and current get always called one time only
 
@Wes I see no reason why it shouldn't run faster
 
Wes
but it doesn't lol
apparently saving $this->entry in the while() is expensive
 
12:42 AM
@Wes I don't believe you
well
that depends on how often that loop runs
 
Wes
say there are 50% nulls 50% non-nulls
 
@Wes well, then it may well be possible
 
Wes
except that when i try to benchmark the time of assign to a class field, and fetching it 3 times with those numbers i always get better results than 4 fcalls for each iteration
do you want a working example?
 
Wes
1:06 AM
broke php lol
 
 
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Wes
2:15 AM
is it possible that offsetGet & co are optimized somehow? @bwoebi
 
3:03 AM
@Wes no.
 
Wes
this doesn't make sense
 
 
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Wes
4:38 AM
@bwoebi sorry to bother you again, are you around perhaps? i've found what makes it slower
it's hella strange, i'd like to understand why now
 
5:09 AM
aight, I need something explained to me. I'm listening Marco Polo, the series on Netflix right now, and they speak of horses
that^ is not a fucking horse, it's a small poney
were all mongol "horses" poney, or is that cinematographical things?
 
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for those who wonder, a horse goes higher than your shoulders
 
Wes
@FélixGagnon-Grenier i can answer you
 
Wes
first of all they are the same species, some horses are taller
 
5:14 AM
... ok.. if you say so
when I was smaller, we had farmers around
they had ponies
 
Wes
in ancient times small horses were preferred to big horses, believe it or not
 
and ponies do not, ever, breed horses
@Wes that I can believe though
 
Wes
because they were cheaper to feed, because they were stronger too. less weight more agility
 
I mean... you say that those yuge work horses, the ones that actually hauled agricultural tools around to feed humanity, were big ponies?
these things are huge, wes
 
Wes
also certain horses have more bone density and more muscles than leaner "fast" horses
 
5:17 AM
I mean... huge animals are impressive
you physically can sense something, when a horse that could literally launch you 10 feet away with a nick of their neck moves around
I can only feel dread, for humans that have had full lines of huge horses mounted by armored crazed out murderers charge on them
 
Wes
@FélixGagnon-Grenier for sure they weren't like "thoroughbred" horses the ones we created
in nature horses were of all sizes and on average like big ponies
i'm also sure that like bovines, also the bigger horses were designed to be food, rather than serve as tool
and in the end of my argument :B horses in nature eat less than bred horses, so small horses are advantaged over big horses that need more food
am i being convincing :B
 
ok... well, your theory can be whatever you like, but find a farm where they actually still use horses, which may be rare, but no. the "cheval de bat" like we call in french, are the biggest, largest, slowest, strongest shits you can imagine
well, just a bit convincing ;)
what you say about feed, yeah, I can gwet along with
but the reality of what I have actually seen as work horses, says totally otherwise
I have no idea about battle horses, or the horses that were used throughout human history for battle, but I know, and have seen, horses being "used" for farm work, and that do not really correspond to that description....
maybe that's just a canadian thing though./.....
y'know, it's cold around here, so maybe smaller horses had a harder time making it through the winter...
also, I love you, don't hate on me for not believing you right away ;)
 
Wes
thoroughbred horses break easily, they are not as strong as you think they are
 
that's the small kind
 
Wes
just look how slim the legs are, and the mass they have to support
wild horses have legs twice that size
 
5:31 AM
yeah that's not a wild horse
 
Wes
it's closer genetically
 
or, actual farmers I was neighbour with, used wild horses
because that's the kind of shape, if not bigger, I have seen in farms
that horse can't run fast
it will haul three cars
but it won't run
 
Wes
a good horse for a mongol could be one that is good at off-road :P rather than one that is fast
 
unrelatingly, I just took my supper out of the oven, and damn. I was hungry. eating is nice
lol good point :)
speaking of which... I'll be back to Marco Polo
thanks and sorry for the infos :)
 
o/
 
Wes
5:44 AM
\o
@FélixGagnon-Grenier marco polo is a sad story lol
 
@Wes shit
well, as of now, it's ok still :)
 
Wes
are them in asia already? :\
oh they made another kingsman. good
 
6:01 AM
yo
 
mornin
 
morning
 
morning
 
6:20 AM
o/
 
\o
 
Anonymous
o/
 
Wes
6:47 AM
\o
 
o/
 
\o
 
o/
 
6:57 AM
mornin
 
o/
 
\o
 
7:15 AM
o/
 
Wes
@tereško you are the worst :P
 
thank you
 
moanin
 
Wes
someone with 5.6 that can test a couple of script for me? (3v4l doesn't seem to work)
 
Anonymous
E_DOESNT_WORK
 
Anonymous
7:25 AM
What does 3v4l do?
 
Wes
it redirects me to the homepage
 
Anonymous
lies.
 
poop
 
Wes
also i don't want to cram it, it's a benchmark that uses quite a lot of memory
 
dood
 
Anonymous
7:26 AM
share the scripts, i'll cram it for you
 
boob
 
Anonymous
 
Wes
php 7 is much faster than 5 but still, it's strange that fetching a field makes it slower
 
Anonymous
Thanks Jay, you're the best
 
Anonymous
7:32 AM
@JayIsTooCommon that's ok, anytime
 
Wes
i didn't want you to cram sjon
i don't think 3v4l is meant to do benchmarks :B
 
Anonymous
pfft morals.
 
Wes
cunt
 
Anonymous
<3
 
Wes
tea time
 
7:34 AM
morn 11
 
Wes
\o
 
Anonymous
hey pedroth
 
Anonymous
@Wes do you know if you're going NW yet?
 
Wes
i'm not doing well lately, but never say never. when is it again?
 
next weekend. be strong! you can do it! :D
 
7:40 AM
oh same
just #randomshares :)
 
Wes
:(
 
fgetcsv reading failure with chinese characters – #75244
 
ah the good old chinese separated values file
 
Anonymous
fuck, it's next weekend?
 
Anonymous
maybe I'm not going..
 
7:55 AM
Quick question: Are people moving to PHP7 now? Is it recommended?
I'd like to get off PHP5...
Well I found the migration page at least php.net/manual/en/migration70.php
 
Thank you @tereško. The migration bit about exceptions has me worried. Might have to setup a staging environment before I migrate
 
the biggest changes is removal of mysql_*
if that's not affecting your codebase, then switching from 5.6 to 7.0 should be without any issues
@taco there are scripts you can run, to check the compatibility issues
 
@taco you should have one setup anyways :P
 
:d
awesome thanks :D
 
8:14 AM
@Wes is that a no? :P
@JayIsTooCommon forgot to take care of transport/hotel?
 
PHP used to mean "personal home page"?
 
Anonymous
@pmmaga thought it was next month.. Ah well, it's expensive anyway
 
Hi all
 
Bob
8:36 AM
Hello, if there are zend framework experts here, can you give me a hand to solve this problem? Thank you! stackoverflow.com/questions/46359997/…
 
8:50 AM
I need help with this pastebin.com/R6DmYuN2 I need to extract a column into an html select. I need the option value to take 'CUSTOMERSUPPLIERCODE' values and display its respective LEGALNAME1.
 
are php objects somehow special when retrieving them from the global scope in c? for some reason I can get scalars but not objects
 
HI guys
How can I define constant in class in PHP 5.3
?
I used const $test = array(1,2);
but its giving an error Fatal error: Arrays are not allowed in class constants
 
9:05 AM
@Exception you can't
 
5.3 o.O
 
@Gordon ohh dear
 
5 mins ago, by salathe
5.3 o.O
 
then do we need to do like this const $test = '1,2'; and then in const call use explode()
 
@Exception or to clarify: the const keyword is correct, but you cannot define an array as a constant
 
9:16 AM
what is the hack to use this.I mean if I want alternative..
 
@Exception at that point you're probably better off by just making it a static variable instead of a const
 
@Exception upgrade to a supported version of PHP, or use a public static variable and set it in the constructor wherever
 
or use a "constant method" that always returns your array(1,2);
 
Wes
function constantValue(){ return array(1,2); }
 
moin
 
9:20 AM
or function constantValue(){ static $const = array(1,2); return $const; }
or rather a static function
well, you get the idea
 
you could just upgrade to a sane version of PHP, though
 
@DaveRandom oh! i want that! which version is it? :P
 
PHP 6
 
:D
 
@pmmaga Java9
 
9:27 AM
C# 6
 
I remember there was a tab in SO named "documentation", where is that now?
 
burned
 
too bad ..! it was useful to start a new language
 
1015
Q: Sunsetting Documentation

Jon Ericson We will stop accepting contributions to Documentation on August 8 On behalf of everyone who worked on Documentation, I want to thank all 15,451 users who contributed. We particularly want to acknowledge the 294 people who tested the private beta and the 2,361 who pounded on the public beta in ...

 
it was very useless to start with
 
9:30 AM
I disagree - it has lots of clues for each language
 
I agree to disagree
 
@Shafizadeh Time spent for SO docs should have been better spent improving the documentation of the actual projects.
4
 
Wes
moin2
 
@kelunik maybe
 
If you want to create docs for an undocumented thing and you want hosting for it, readthedocs.org
 
9:33 AM
@Wes I think you meant moin v1.0.1 ... unless you have introduced new features to morning that I don't know about, or you hate semver ?
 
@JoeWatkins no it's like the whole Java 2 Second Edition v8 thing
 
Wes
JoeWatkins ok i will backport bc changes to moin1.0.1
 
What does "go throw" mean in this?
> it's really not hurt to go throw
 
it should have been "though"
 
9:39 AM
and what does "go though" mean?
 
Wes
Supporters of #Turkish President Erdogan punched and kicked three protesters who interrupted his speech in New York… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/910975044297330688
 
@Shafizadeh you do it when the circumstances are truly exceptional
 
@tereško However I'm almost sure that word contains "r" in it
 
I see
 
9:41 AM
yeh we like to randomly change the pronunciation of the "ough" syllable based on the surrounding syllables.
There are literally no rules for that
 
Wes
my guess is that they said "it's really not hard to go through"
 
or "it really doesn't hurt to go through"
 
Wes
@Shafizadeh you can download english subtitles of movies and tv series here addic7ed.com
 
@tereško Please reply your thoughts over my question..
 
10:23 AM
!!dad
 
I've just been diagnosed as colorblind I know, it certainly has come out of the purple
 
10:49 AM
MORNINGS o/
 
\o
 
o/
 
Wes
11:15 AM
\o
 
wow.. it's hard to believe it's friday and nobody linked to it yet. there you go: https://rebecca.blackfriday/
 
Anonymous
@pmmaga I actually don't think I'll fall for this one
 
dunno what you mean.. 100% legit :x
 
would love some suggestions: stackoverflow.com/questions/7756969/...
 
@DaveRandom hah
 
no worky :-(
no for me anyway
 
use http instead of https
 
too late :-/
 
shite
 
11:42 AM
 
@salathe please make a social media card for it for teh tweetz
 
I can has blogged! https://salathe.co.uk/blog/2017/09/22/ups-downs-contributing-open-source
 
Li+ ion has the highest hydration energy due to its smaller atomic mass, and it releases a relatively high amount of energy when dissolved in water
 
11:57 AM
simplexml_load_string() fails to parse an element filled only with spaces – #75245
 
@Saitama heart of the cards!
 
:P
 
Wes
morn 2.0.1
 
Anonymous
@Saitama I've had more interesting shits
 
okay, Cs is the most reactive element found in the periodic table
but some people consider F as the most reactive element, but, since F is almost never found in its free state, Cs is regarded as the most reactive one
 
Anonymous
12:08 PM
5 mins ago, by JayIsTooCommon
@Saitama I've had more interesting shits
 
If you somehow are able to produce some free F as in a reaction product, you can literally incinerate any molecule
meh, you are hard to satisfy
 
Anonymous
@Jimbo's mum said the same.
 
@PeeHee's mum as well, ;)
 
Anonymous
:O
 
Anonymous
Don't be so rude about people's mothers!
 
12:10 PM
46 secs ago, by JayIsTooCommon
@Jimbo's mum said the same.
 
Anonymous
Aug 18 at 8:05, by JayIsTooCommon
@PeeHaa your mum's a confabulator
 
Anonymous
golden
 
:D
 
@Wes o/ 2.0.1
 
also, Why do you brits use 'mum' instead of 'mom'? I've always wondered.
 
12:19 PM
it basically sounds the same with british accent
but I dunno the reason why
 
Wes
because that's how it was originally, then americans changed it?
 
Bob
Does anyone know why zend\cache does not seem to work? pastebin.com/PEB8gE15
 
Wes
actually forget it, i'm pretty sure brits used "mother" even in recent times :B
 
we are transferring a website to a different server, but mail functions stopped working. When use PHPMailer with IsSmtp() is doesn't work anymore, changing it to IsMail does, anyone can point me in the direction what the problem could be?
 
Wes
like, if @JayIsTooCommon was from the mid 20h century would say stuff like
[mother, can I go play with my fellow companions after the tea?](https://i.imgur.com/J0wUIpX.png)
fuck off md
yea fuck off
 
Anonymous
12:33 PM
Are you trying to say I have a double chin?
 
Wes
i'm saying that i like your wig
 
Anonymous
aw <3
 
Wes
:B
 
sthap with dat :B
 
Wes
i can quit anytime i want! DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO
 
12:37 PM
okay :{|
 
Wes
that was the reaction of someone addicted :B ok. i quit :B i'm indeed abusing it :B:B:B
 
:B
 
Anonymous
Can't believe they've banned Uber in London..
 
Anonymous
what a joke.
 
lol
My Facebook feed was filled with it
 
that seems like an awfully long wall of text to get a joke
 
@Saitama so we can rhyme 'mummy' with 'yummy'
 
mummy mummy mummy I got tape 'round my tummy
 
Are you my mummy?
@Naruto have you set the SMTP server in the php.ini file?
 
1:01 PM
@Wes god damn it. fu @rlemon
 
Wes
:D
 
I wish I could report that gist for being offensive or somethin'
 
Wes
nah, give saitama some time to read it first
 
;)
^totally safe. also cv-pls
 
Morngins
 
1:07 PM
o/
 
\o
 
o/
 
@Wes OH MY GOD... I HATE ALL OF YOU, IM LEAVING EARTH RIGHT ATM
 
Wes
best joke ever
 
I sent it to my boyfriend
 
1:15 PM
ikr?
 
I'm awaiting the "WTF"
 
Dat autocorrect...
 
so did you beat Kitava, @FélixGagnon-Grenier?
 
That was.. a stupid hard fight
Do some people actually win?
Like, what's the result in HC?
 
1:17 PM
you fight him again in act ten and beat him
 
But yeah, I got to part 2, but damn...
 
it took me forever to kill him on my raider on SC
 
How many deaths? ;)
 
a few dozen
I'm not kidding
 
I was literally insta kill by any of his moves
 
1:19 PM
you have to dodge them ;P
 
facetanking isn't a valid strategy when you're a glass cannon
 
Good point ;)
 
I killed Malachai this morning, it was surprisingly easy
My marauder is level 42 and already has like 1.8k life
 
Nice. Happy tanking
 
1:23 PM
anything with giblets on the ground: loaf of bread
 
it's 2017 and WoW is still ugly :o
 
depends on how high you have graphics turned up
 
And on how high you are :B
 
16G 1080 GTX is ok.. I guess
 
1:28 PM
It looks significantly better at highest graphicss. Still cartoony, but that's WoW.
 
yeah.. that's with i7 and 32G usual RAM
 
how can i run laravel command in live server??
 
@AlmaDo xeon > i7
 
@FlorianMargaine :( .. my PC is 3 years old ...
oh sorry.. it's laptop..
 
1:29 PM
I don't have a desktop PC
 
@ChoncholMahmud you're not likely to get much help with laravel in here
 
my laptop config is a bit rage-inducing.
 
oh i see. @Tiffany . Thanks
 
whatever.. I run BDO on ultra with ~40FPS with full render distance in huge cities..
but it sucks that it doesn't have ENB like old good Skyrim does
 
I guess today's the day I finally namespace my codebase
 
1:34 PM
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      :-----------/shhOHbmp---:\      Kernel: x86_64 Linux 4.13.3-200.vanilla.knurd.1.fc26.x86_64
    /-----------omMMMNNNMMD  ---:     Uptime: 1h 28m
   :-----------sMMMMNMNMP.    ---:    Packages: 3034
  :-----------:MMMdP-------    ---\   Shell: bash 4.4.12
 ,------------:MMMd--------    ---:   Resolution: 1920x1080
 :------------:MMMd-------    .---:   WM: StumpWM
 :----    oNMMMMMMMMMNho     .----:   CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1505M v6 @ 8x 4GHz [25.0°C]
@AlmaDo ^
 
:p
 
actually, it does
 
well physical RAM isn't that much important compared to your vcard RAM I guess. as well as processing power. That is if we're talking about the picture and graphics quality
 
I run a dozen of VMs concurrently daily, physical RAM is important :P
 
Does anyone know how to tell Doctrine not to bother trying to save created_at and updated_at fields, but to instead allow the DB to handle generating those?
 
1:38 PM
@FlorianMargaine I could guess it :p
 
is it valid to namespace a project using the name of the company/organization (or abbreviation of company/organization)?
 
looks like my graphics card has 4G of RAM
 
but I run at most 3-4 so I'm fine with i7
 
@Tiffany seems overkill, just namespacing it to the project is usually enough.
 
I can't imagine why one would run 12 or more unless you want to have a local AWS out there :D
 
1:39 PM
@AlmaDo that's basically the idea
 
@Danack I was going to use the abbreviation of the organization as the namespace cause I can't think of anything else that's unique and applies to our codebase since it's a website. \Website seems too generic
 
locally, I have a full setup with various machines that can accept lxc containers and run coordination on them, moving them around, restoring if one of the VMs reboots, deploy the containers on a git push, etc etc
 
@FlorianMargaine well.. containerization.. docker.. doesn't it ring a bell?
 
@AlmaDo I run containers on my VMs :)
thousands of them
 
I can't imagine why dev machine would need x1000 containers in x10 of VM-s .. but who am I to judge :)
 
1:44 PM
@AlmaDo I want to stress test my coordination system under high load/high scale
you have bugs that never happen at small scales, or are hard to reproduce
what's in the containers? I don't care much, that's the coordination system I'm working on
 
Wes
is 16 too early for beer?
 
@Wes nope!
 
Wes
wasn't beer illegal in your country
 
it is :D
 
@AlmaDo in practice it's more like ~500 containers in ~5 VMs, but there are some VMs only necessary for stuff around the VMs hosting the containers, so I end up at ~10 VMs
 
Wes
1:47 PM
if you are like me beer is like water. is water illegal too?
 
Meh you just don't have real beer ;)
 
@Danack and FWIW, there is no name for the project. It's typically just called "the website" here
 
Maybe just start at \Controller?
 
but I don't want to potentially interfere with other composer packages
 
My mind has greatly changed about that, and will probably change again, but these days, like 5 days out of a week, I think that, using vendor and package name should just be used when doing public projects, software that is to be used by other software
 
1:51 PM
@Wes if you have to ask, then it is too early
 
@Tiffany Technically there wouldn't have othe packages with that namespace, but then yeah, if that is to be an issue I would use a short abbreviation
or even Site, actually
 
I don't know if it will be an issue, but I feel like a project should be named something unique as to not interfere with other projects. I'm not sure if that's valid though.
 
\Site\Controller\Home doesn't sound all that bad
 
yeah, I kinda like that
and if it comes down to it, I can always refactor the name
 
five minutes until garage sale
eeeee
 
do you have to like, be quick so that the monitors don't get bought by someone else?
 
@Tiffany every composer package will have it's own root namespace
 
@Wes :)
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I dunno. It's open to employees first, but I'm fairly sure there won't be people waiting at the door for it
@tereško so are you for using something like \Site as the root, or using an abbreviation like \MCC?
 

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