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6:00 PM
I suspect it has nothing to do with "skipping"
 
I meant,
It should move the cursor to the next line
After taking input
 
it sounds to me that your code just gets stuck in readln() loop
 
Oh, but it works perfectly fine on an online compiler?
 
or it's some windows fuckery
 
I think so.
I normally write code without hiccups on my schools crappy Vista computers.
But at home on my Windows 10 Machine, it's messing up. Guess it's compatibility issues?
 
6:01 PM
if you are half-serious about doing development, you should set up linux or bsd distro, for that purpose
either as VM or on a separate device
 
This is for school :D
For freelance work, Windows works pretty well for the Web and some Java and C#.
 
your school needs source code
 
Nah, its kinda a practice question for the exams.
The "hardest" question in the exams.
 
in that case it would be even more important not to be in a situation, where you have to second-guess yourself: "was it my mistake or is windows fucking with me"
@HassanAlthaf please tell me it's for highschool
 
Yes, it is high school.
Last year, final exams.
lol
 
6:04 PM
ah, then it's not so bad as an exercise
also, Pascal is really good as the first language, because it beats in your head the need to keep variable definitions together and separation between function and procedure
 
I won't be writing crappy pascal again ever in my life after exams!!! :)
Pascal compilers are broken
IDE is not even usable
 
never had any problems
then again, the IDE, that I used, looked like
 
Anonymous
@Linus sorry, I was out.
 
Anonymous
I will be out for 2 hours
 
heatst.com/gaming/… ... for fuck sake //cc @FélixGagnon-Grenier
 
Anonymous
6:15 PM
@Linus I will ping you when I get in
 
@samayo no problem :)
 
@tereško oh crist. will this have no end
 
@samayo probably i will be in sleep mode in next two hours so probably ping me tommrow ;)
 
@tereško Exactly the one I use.
It's really annoying to write large amounts of codes.
The Object Oriented module is annoying xD
 
Anonymous
6:17 PM
@Linus ok. I will ping you in the afternoon. I expect myself to be heavily drunk tonight, so I will sleep through much of Saturday.
 
ok :P
 
@HassanAlthaf well, in later years there was also: bloodshed.net/devpascal.html
 
@tereško Is it free?!
 
not sure
 
Wow, it's much better and free
Why can't my school use this
 
6:21 PM
tradition?
 
Could it be a different flavor of Pascal? (I heard there are flavors of Linux)
 
setting up the compiler fior it tends to be a bit ... emm .. tricky
 
Really xD
 
you probably can also write pascal in Atom, but you would have to set up the compiler manually
 
Yeah, not gonna bother
just a few more programs
Can type it out on Notepad++ and paste it on the online compiler.
Btw, I'm looking to learn C++/Python once I'm done with exams.
What would be a better option?
(I'm planning to take a computer science degree in Uni)
Just for you to help me make the right decision: I've used HTML, CSS, PHP, JS, C#, Java, Swift
What would be more useful to know? (I most likely won't specialize, planning to specialize in Java OR C#).
 
6:27 PM
probably Python (since it is a different style of language)
 
or you could invest additional time on learning better JS
 
Is it worth it to learn stuff like Angular?
I know node is pretty good.
And did use Node a while back (totally have forgotten it xD)
Some people have been recommending me to try out React from Facebook than use Angular from Google.
 
I look toward React with something of slow burning hatred
it took 15 years for internet to finally separate CSS, JS and HTML
 
`I look toward React with something of slow burning hatred`
^ could you rephrase that for me, I didn't quite get what you said there.
 
6:31 PM
and now React is advertising the putting of all it together in one big ball of mud
 
Ah, so you mean, Angular is a better choice.
 
IMHO, yes
 
Ah, but don't you think Angular keeps changing too much?
Ng2 came, changed a tonne of times, and now rebranded to a new version.
 
I think I've had milk last longer than some JavaScript frameworks.
 
lol
 
6:35 PM
the state of frameworks in JS currently is unstable, which is why I recommended learning the language and not focusing on any specific framework
 
ah
What would the best things to learn in JS, kinda like what. I have used ES6 syntax and stuff.
 
learning ES2015 frontend workflow (think - webpack or gulp)
 
Ahh, stuff like manipulating the DOM, etc?
 
^
@HassanAlthaf If you don't know that, you should definitely learn that too.
Maybe take a look at eloquent javascript
 
@HassanAlthaf yes, and without jquery
 
6:39 PM
I do know how to manipulate DOM.
 
@HassanAlthaf What would you say your level is?
 
@tereško I can do that, but I use jQuery in my projects, just to save those extra few lines of code.
 
If I gave you a small-medium assignment, think you'll be able to do it?
 
@MadaraUchiha Sorta can get the job done for my clients. (Not happy with the knowledge I have though).
I did study the workings of JS on a Udemy course.
@MadaraUchiha Probably
 
Take a look at eloquent javascript (it's a book)
fairly light reading, covers all the basics
 
6:40 PM
@HassanAlthaf I am not sure how much lines you save, by dumping entire library in your codebase
 
@MadaraUchiha I can do literally anything you ask me to do in vanilla JS, however you should not ever read the code I wrote, or at least you should get really drunk first.
 
be back later
 
@tereško lol, I use bootstrap mostly for the frontend, so jQuery is usually there.
So why not just use it?
plus asynchronous requests or whatever you call it is also there in jQuery
 
@HassanAlthaf you also should learn SASS, and some of the more modern CSS frameworks, like Bourbon and Neat
 
I did learn LESS
 
6:42 PM
@HassanAlthaf that's what Fetch API is for
 
Do you recommend to continue using LESS or jump to SASS?
 
@HassanAlthaf sorry, LESS is dead
 
Haha really?
I'
I'm guessing SASS isn't too different but I'll try it. :)
 
oh, and avoid compass
 
EloquentJavaScript looks great.
And it's free!
 
6:44 PM
@HassanAlthaf here is another books: leanpub.com/understandinges6/read
(the online version is also free, but if you want an e-book version, then you have to pay)
 
Ahh
That's pretty cool.
Is it safe to use ES6 features without Polyfills yet?
 
no
that's why I said "ES workflow"
 
Haha, got you! :)
 
basically, the process, that lets you write ES code, "compile" it and then deploy
 
Would it not make more sense to use TypeScript?
 
6:48 PM
I personally prefer webpack for that
@HassanAlthaf it's ES + strict types
but I am not sure about how good of an idea it is
 
It's pretty good.
 
well, the language is fine, but I was thinking more about the adoption rate
 
The Pre-Release material scared the crap out of me for a second.
 
@tereško Symfony's csrf security vs Slim's?
 
there have been multiple "replace javascript" languages and they all have somewhat failed
 
6:50 PM
 
@CoderDudeTwodee Symfony? :D
 
GWT, Dart, Go, Coffeescript
@CoderDudeTwodee no idea. I havent used either one of those.
 
@samayo I ditched the php api part of capture for loopback
 
Ah, so Go is aimed at replacing JavaScript?!
 
@HassanAlthaf kinda, yes
what I suspect is that TypeScript will get merged back into ES
 
6:52 PM
I thought
 
Also how do you guys take care of deciding how users are using JS enabled versions, and/or mobile version of your website?
 
Go is another competitor for PHP, ASP and Rails.
 
@CoderDudeTwodee mostly by not caring. it's their problem if they use ie6 or disable js
 
@HassanAlthaf Rails is a framework
 
as for mobile, that's what responsive design is for. us it ;)
 
6:53 PM
@HassanAlthaf Why do I feel like that ASP is crap?
 
ASP makes you money? :D
 
@HassanAlthaf also, Javascript too is PHP's competitor
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier So just redirect users based on their headers?
 
@HassanAlthaf so does COBOL
 
Yeah, Node. I'm aware, cannot list every competitor. xD
\@CoderDudeTwodee I was planning to try out ASP, but meh.
 
6:54 PM
@CoderDudeTwodee no. design your page so that it shrinks accordingly to the screen size. I use purecss or bootstrap for grid system
 
@HassanAlthaf if you want to try a different language, look at Erlang
@FélixGagnon-Grenier no, I would recommend using Neat: neat.bourbon.io
 
@tereško Ah, will that help me at all in Uni/Work?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Yeah but my mobile and "web" versions don't have the same content.
 
@tereško did not hear of it, I'll try it for next thing
 
@HassanAlthaf it will teach you how to use functional programming paradigm. It might help you in uni. But not at work. Unless you work on a major project (or in telecommunication)
 
6:56 PM
Ahh
 
@CoderDudeTwodee if it's too big to load both of them, you might have to do a rediect, yeah
otherwise, just load the site, then show what's appropriate
 
By the way, is it a good idea to join a Campus (that partners with a foreign university and gives you the same degree at your home country) or a Uni directly (meaning I have to go abroad).
 
@HassanAlthaf you can fears read about it and then decide whether it's worth to use it. There are two major projects that I know use erlang: CouchDB and GitHub (in as middleware)
 
Again, is having an m.something.com annoying to the masses?
 
I'm not eligible to enter local universities.
@CoderDudeTwodee Oh my god, it definitely is annoying! :(
 
6:58 PM
@CoderDudeTwodee google: responsive design
 
@tereško I had done that two years ago.
 
file_get_contents fails on zlib compressed stream – #74512
 
Just didn't care about what people thought about m.something.com to redirect to mobile users.
 
@CoderDudeTwodee then try again, because you obviously didnt get ti the first time
 
@tereško I do have my pages built with responsive design, that's not the issue. My question is having an m.something.com more preferred than the same url having different content based on the device?
 
7:01 PM
@tereško holy shit. you mean these people actually do not force 12 columns design down your throat. jaw drops
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier you're welcome
 
@CoderDudeTwodee if your page is responsive, then there is no need for "mobile subdomain"
 
@tereško But they have different contents based on the size.
 
7:04 PM
@tereško Don't you play CSGO?
Saw your Steam :D
 
nope
 
searching "le sigh" in this chat did not disappoint. it seems @Danack is our master at that ;)
 
@HassanAlthaf I mostly play every other genre except multiplayer shooters
 
@tereško Lol why is that? CS:GO is like the best shooter.
 
@HassanAlthaf to be good at those requires investment of time and regular practice
and I usually loose interest in a game after playing it for ~20h
 
7:08 PM
Well, you can have fun being a noob. There's skillgroups in CS:GO
You only match players will similar skill groups xD
*players with
 
riiiiiiight ... because you have got an impression, that I take well "being noob" at anything
 
Nah
It's just that, being a PRO isn't something easy at all.
Specially at CS:GO
Takes years of practice to be good at CS:GO
(If you would have played CS 1.6 or earlier versions, CS:GO is almost the same).
 
what they semver CS?
 
I have played the version, that was bundled with the original Half-Life
and even then I prefered Unreal Tournament
 
Ah
I'm not even half-serious about Counter-strike. I just hop in and have some fun.
 
7:13 PM
UT was great. like, I could not feel like a newb and actually get kills
 
Since I'm in a much lower skill group than I actually was, right now, I can have fun and frag at the same time.
 
@Machavity not only are people angry about that parsing change, but there's also a shitstorm on meta about the tag change
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Ah, got me... lmfao
Forgot it's a Friday.
 
there was some kind of hint ;)
 
Ok boiz off to bed
 
7:18 PM
nn
 
nite
 
7:31 PM
No matter the outcome of an audit, the community wins. https://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/6847yy/security_audit_for_sodium_compat_organized_by/dgvj5h0/
current project
 
recruiters are idiots
 
Calling me about jobs that don't fit my experience. Like java jobs.
 
@SalOrozco not really. It is a lot easier to learn a new language than to learn programming
if you are a seasoned professional, it might be good enough for a Java company, if you have a good understanding of OOP
 
@tereško that is true.
 
7:44 PM
I mostly deal with recruiters who try to hire me for onsite gigs
and no matter how many times I say "sorry, remote only", they never learn
 
@ScottArciszewski lol
This recruiter right now has called me like 10 times.
 
"please, never call me again"
 
lol
 
these are the same firms that produce SQL errors if you have a ' in a text field :\
when filling out their paperwork for HR :P
so I avoid them like the plague
 
if you live in EU, you can request for them to remove your name from their list, and if the call you again, you can get $$$ for that
 
7:46 PM
"avoid them like the plague" my teacher used to say that
 
> implying I can afford a lawyer
 
They run a consumer report on you for high paying jobs out here. Investigate your every move lol
 
where are these consumer reports managed?
is it a handful of companies or just one?
 
One company provides the service, but I'm sure they outsource to other companies.
Amazon one-day delivery.
 
which company? :P
 
7:57 PM
gis backgrounds
There are others.
 
8:09 PM
Working with wrappers – #74513
 
8:19 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Ya got one ;)
 
@NikiC you probably meant to say "can now be null" or "is now null" here
also evenings
 
hi
 
@Jeeves drugs are bad, m'kay?
 
@Danack Not all of them.
 
8:26 PM
@Jeeves which drugs do you recommend then?
 
@Danack That I am worthless.
 
people seem to have an unfair bias against meth
 
@Ekin yeah, can now be null
@Jeeves wat
 
@NikiC Nothing. Forget about it.
 
@Jeeves Yeah, that is good advice.
 
8:29 PM
@NikiC So what do you have to say.
 
@Jeeves why?
 
@Hello I don't know.
 
@Jeeves I'm pretty sure you know, actually.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier No, I don't.
 
... I missed my 1/10000 apparently
 
Wes
8:32 PM
I'm so tired
 
im sad because i heard my friend passed away last night 😬 can barely do anything
 
You can have movement emerge from brightness differences.
 
Neat
 
Wes
my condolences hello
 
8:34 PM
Thanks wes
 
Wes
9:00 PM
i didn't go out for days. i have even a great beard, as proof of that
fml
 
lol
 
Anonymous
9:16 PM
> who the fuck calls cereal sauce "milk"
 
Wes
user image
3
ahahahaha
 
@bwoebi @kelunik React performing better than Aerys… wat? github.com/amphp/aerys/issues/142#issuecomment-298080946
There must be some configuration differences going on… maybe compression on Aerys but not in React…
I realize he's only referring to non-keep-alive, but even then Aerys should crush React.
 
@Trowski he does, and according to github.com/torinaki/aerys-benchmark/blob/… it seems to be about the same numbers?
 
@bwoebi Exactly, but that doesn't seem right.
 
@Trowski Maybe w/o keepalive the connectionsPerIP is too low?
It's still set at 100
 
9:22 PM
Unless we're just dealing with some limitations of his hardware or setup more than limitations of Aerys.
 
@NikiC concurrency on wrk ist just 100 too
 
@NikiC That could be it. Or not…
Compression?
 
@Trowski too short to be compressed
@NikiC if this were the issue, we'd get read errors
 
Could be just the limit of his hardware then…
I'd also be interested to see what v2 brings.
Also I'd be interested in real-world performance differences. I feel like "Hello, world" responses just don't test overall performance in a meaningful way.
 
@Trowski that's true, but then it will also depend on the individual libraries (redis etc.), which makes it hard to distinguish what the perf is due to
 
9:36 PM
Sure… all benchmarks are terrible :-D
I just have a hard time believing all our focus on performance wouldn't yield results.
 
9:51 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Too late, I saw it
You should totally have left it :D
 
that was the goal :P
yeah, I'm still a bit shy :D
 
@PeeHaa takes advantage of children who are shy, don't be like them
 
Anonymous
Hahahah @FélixGagnon-Grenier
 
Anonymous
Moin Jime
 
Wes
10:13 PM
NO, what was it?
 
They'll tell you' I gtg
la'ers!
muhahahahahhaa
 
Wes
:B
i'm about to watch silicon valley s4 \o/ yesss i missed it
 
10:37 PM
I was just in silicon valley :)
 
lol
 
11:04 PM
@Trowski well, it does … but there are other things which ReactPHP doesn't support and thus is not slower
 
11:41 PM
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