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3:28 PM
I heard it's possible to disable header following; but I can't seem to find anything for it. I have an application I want to test. What would be the best way of disabling, client side, the header follow rule
and is this possible in firefox or would I best to just use wget + stuff like that
 
Morning.
@JoeWatkins No rush, it's been doing that for a few days now, so a few more won't hurt. Thanks!
 
evening room
 
@bwoebi Could be a loop, but maybe caused by a phpdbg & pthreads interaction?
@Linus o/
 
Hi. Is it possible to get an array of multiple file paths in a remote server using PHP?
 
Just got assigned to a new task, someone attacked the client server with PHP.Anuna
 
3:38 PM
In fact, I'm using an http address to use with feeds. The problem is that there are multiple files that I need to import and I need to scan a folder recursively to get all the paths
 
Do you know the directory/file names?
 
I know the root directory and the filename, yes
the file is the same across subfolders
root folder is /var/lib/myfolder and the filename is myfile.xml
 
3:54 PM
@Trowski \o
 
OHMAHGAH
 
Wes
\o
 
4:12 PM
o/
 
\o
 
o/
 
This is important. I need to get the file paths on a REMOTE server. Not the host one where my site lives :)
 
@zephirus what do you want us to do?
 
I want to get an array of multiple file paths in a remote server, given a root path and the filename
root folder is /var/lib/myfolder and the filename is myfile.xml
i mean, all the files in all subfolders
 
4:20 PM
@zephirus this sounds like a project description and not a technical question
are you asking us to work for you?
 
of course not
I know how to do it in my host
not in a remote one
so, that's the issue at the moment (or the technical question=
 
I just published “Make Correct Comparisons” https://medium.com/p/make-correct-comparisons-6ccc2216242d
someone is butthurt :D
@zephirus a question usually has a question mark at the end. What code have you written? What have you tried so far?
 
@Patrick something is bullshit :D
 
just a moment
 
Anonymous
tbh, for symfony to be 3x faster than [put anything here] should be taken with a shitload grain of salt
 
4:33 PM
$results = getDirContents('/var/lib/myfolder');
I use that. It works on my server. I want to do the same in another server
 
@samayo never trust benchmarks, which you didn't falsify yourself
 
Interrogate the data long enough and it'll tell you anything.
 
@Patrick Make that in one message so I can tweet it dammit :P
 
there you go
 
4:45 PM
https://twitter.com/taylorotwell/status/940605100338409472 someone is butthurt :D
 
@james the hell, change your name back. Didn't even recognise you.
 
Wes
i dislike this kind of provocations. i hope he ignores it :B
 
@Fabor Two people said this. Do you not like my real name? :(
 
Dec 5 at 10:37, by SaitamaSama
OHMYGAWD what happened to your nick @Jimbo
 
Oh, I meant three
 
4:50 PM
Going to take some getting used to.
 
Dec 8 at 11:55, by Leigh
@James Change your name back immediately!
Some people are nicer about it than o.. actually you're all asshats about it
 
Who is this @James? is it @Jeeves' alter ego?
 
that makes it 4 \o/
 
@Patrick Ben.
 
@taylorotwell Its all because of type hints.
 
4:51 PM
things like this make me happy to not give a shit about that stuff anymore
people will either realize they are dealing with children and building their businesses off of that, or they will realize that architecture and software design isn't something to just blindly follow
 
@ircmaxell what are your thoughts on this? paragonie.com/blog/2017/12/…
 
It's about 19 days too early for one.
 
also, probably irrelevant...
 
@Patrick this is when I downvoted it on reddit: paragonie.com/blog/2017/12/…
 
I made dis
 
4:55 PM
@Patrick what about it specifically?
 
@tereško so instead of used PDO prepared statements, use his lib just because?
 
no clue
 
@ircmaxell nevermind. I was hoping that there is some good information in there, but looks like it's just an disguised advertisement.
 
Not seen Scott in here for a little bit.
 
I do think there's some good info there
some of it is disguised advertisement, but that doesn't make it bad advise in general (though easydb seems a bit of a stretch)
 
4:58 PM
"building their businesses off of that" I think the symfony guys are kind of concerned about how some of 'their' business (or at least business opportunities) are disappearing due to people choosing laravel based on not entirely sound logic.
They've seen that using logic to talk about the pros and cons of laravel is not a fruitful exercise, so they've also started on the bs train.
 
Marketing > Code
 
Just tagged v0.2.0 of Amp's async postgres library supporting both ext-pgsql and ext-pq. Features connection pools, prepared statements, listen/notify, and a dedicated transaction API. https://twitter.com/asyncphp/status/940625924386705410
 
@Danack it's especially funny because Taylor did a benchmark blogpost earlier this year to show that Laravel is faster
 
the solution is simple: symfony need to add facades in 5.0
 
@Danack And hence they've gone full retard
 
5:01 PM
or better, call them "usecases" and write up an article how SF5.0 has usecase oriented development
 
RoR is huge. but Sinatra and plain-old-ruby still dominate. Why? Because they don't try to compete with RoR, they realize that people who want ot use RoR should.
 
is RoR still huge? It has been very quiet. A few years ago it looked like it was everywhere
 
Can't see RoR without the song Kaiser Chiefs - Ruby popping in to my head.
 
good morning
 
Wes
@ircmaxell remember ROR?
"not anymore" is the correct answer :P that too was a bubble
it is funny how every language is doomed to follow the same path that other languages followed, despite plenty of evidence that certain paths should be avoided
 
5:26 PM
I am certain at this point, that every programming language ever created, was created with the thought "There should be a programming language better than every other". And then the author fucked up.
 
@mega6382 Or you don't agree with their idea of "a language better than any other."
 
If you created a new programming language what would you call it? It'd totally call mine "Love".
 
@Patrick It's still got hold outs from that era but the people who adopted ROR are the same people who jumped on the Node wagon. My dad works at a really huge company who's system is still on ROR.
 
@Fabor something with no results on google would be a good start. (see go...)
 
Yeah, Go was an odd choice.
 
5:33 PM
@Patrick it's way bigger than you think
@Allenph There are more green-field RoR projects than Node projects. yes, Node has grabbed the hipster segment, but RoR is way bigger than the hipsters alone
 
@Fabor I would call mine mega, literally, no kidding.
 
Morning.
 
Mornison
 
5:48 PM
o/
 
posted on December 12, 2017 by trowski

This release represents a major internal refactor and API refactor for similarity to the [postgres library](https://github.com/amphp/postgres) API. The query method signatures (`query`, `prepare`, `execute`) remain unchanged from the previous version...

 
Released v0.3.0 of Amp's async mysql client. This release refactors the API to be similar to Amp's postgres client. Features connection pools, prepared statements, and a dedicated transaction API. #async #mysql #php https://twitter.com/asyncphp/status/940639762469269505
 
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6:13 PM
@Trowski github release email links to the postgres lib?
 
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Or rather, the release does: github.com/amphp/mysql/releases/tag/v0.3.0
 
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I updated it :)
 
/me waves at @rdlowrey
 
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@ircmaxell o/
 
how is married life treating you?
 
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6:16 PM
Still basking in the afterglow! We're working on Thank You cards but let me prematurely thank you and Gabby both for coming and for the generous gift
 
Dude, thank you for inviting. It was a hell of a lot of fun and a beautiful wedding
 
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I just bought six raspberry PIs and a mini tower so I can start playing with kubernetes in a more hands-on way than the managed gui google cloud exposes ...
 
Want to find a day in the next few weeks to get together and grab beers/cocktails? Perhaps swing over to our place in Jersey City?
 
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@ircmaxell both of us or just me?
 
6:18 PM
both of you!
 
(unless you want to meet 1:1, I'm up for that too)
 
can you help me to improve my code please?
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Q: PHP OOP API Class

herrera2307 I want to do an API or contract in Laravel focus when one person wants a contract or credit, but honestly it's for a scholarship but the process it's similar when I got a credit from a bank. Honestly I wrote this code and it works well, but I would like to improve my code, because I want to bec...

 
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@ircmaxell I only ask because it may be difficult for both of us to get there before xmas -- we'll be in westchester this weekend for hannukah and then we're going to myrtle beach next friday. Maybe a weeknight next week?
 
@rdlowrey That sounds like a lot of fun. I have regular cluster but we don't keep any idle ones sitting around to play with that stuff.
 
6:19 PM
@rdlowrey Did you actually read it? That was on purpose.
 
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@Trowski hey I'm making an effort!
 
i am trying to implement Repository Pattern or Contracts
 
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@Trowski working on setting up lots of new hardware then I'ma jump on updating amp/stomp over the next few days
 
@rdlowrey lol, sorry, didn't mean to be so blunt.
 
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then wanna do an amp/cassandra
 
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6:21 PM
oh lol, I didn't take it that way <3
 
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@ircmaxell lemme know if monday or thursday next week works for ya'll
 
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(I still hafta ask Nina but we can try preliminary scheduling)
 
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@LeviMorrison yeah I'm looking forward to playing with the new baby cluster
 
@rdlowrey Ok, good. :-D Looking forward to having you back contributing to Amp. We miss you.
 
@rdlowrey Kubernetes in particular seems like fun, although most of what we do in HPC doesn't seem amenable to it. However our infrastructure servers such as web, email, etc would be.
 
6:25 PM
@SaitamaSama こんにちは
 
posted on December 12, 2017 by CommitStrip

 
It's written は, but pronounced わ when used in this grammatical function
 
@rdlowrey let's pencil Thursday the 21st
@rdlowrey same here with Gabi, need to confirm as well
 
@eduardo2207fromPanama step 1: code in english
 
okay @tereško
step 2: ?
 
6:34 PM
look at $consultaCreded->consultar();
what the fuck is it?
it takes no parameters and returns no data
step3: stop using singletons for database connections
 
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@ircmaxell k, will let ya know what the wifey says
 
ah, wait, it's laravel
fuck
 
singletons
let me find it
yes it's laravel
 
then you should not care about code quality
 
@eduardo2207fromPanama Laravel must not cross the gates of this room. Take it away.
 
6:39 PM
omg
but it's php?
lOl
come on guys
 
@mega6382 please don't tell people what to post.
 
the problem is that more than a half of bad practices, that you have in there, are the "common practices" in Laravel
 
@eduardo2207fromPanama as annoying as it will be for you, writing comments in English is likely to make it easier for other people to comment on your code.
 
we can't fix a framework
 
Lol i dont asking about framework
i am asking about php lol
 
6:43 PM
global state for accessing user input, don't use global state for validation, don't use global state for database connection, don't use active record, don't declare class parameters as public .. etc
all of these are "laravel problems" in that piece of code, that you showed
you can't fix them and we can't fix them
as I said, @eduardo2207fromPanama, there is nothing we can do
 
okay
that's okay thank you !
i'll save it in my notes
i'll save it own my notes
 
Congratulations on the marriage then @rdlowrey :)
While it's a loss for ~80% of the population, overall we are happy for you.
 
@rdlowrey sgtm
 
6:59 PM
@ircmaxell You ever felt like an imposter?
 
Rofl. I told a company I had a phone interview with that after speaking to a couple former employees I wasn't interested in the position and he asked me for their names.
 
hello
can you explain me how to install symfony 3 so that there would be a directory like it was?
when I tried installing using default way, it wrote some error about symfony 4
 
@Fabor more than you'll ever know
 
then I deceded to do composer required symfony/symfony 3.4.1
and it installed only vendor direcotry
but not other folders and files
 
Wes
if ircmaxell feels like an impostor, then i am certainly one :B
 
7:04 PM
@ircmaxell I'm writing a little about it, figured gaining a little extra perspective is a good idea. Care to answer some ad-hoc impromptu questions?
 
go for it
@Wes everyone goes through it. It's part of the gig. I get most afraid when I feel like I belong where I am and am doing a great job
 
exact error is:
The selected version (4.0.1) cannot be installed because it does not exist.
Execute the following command to install the latest stable Symfony release:
 
@ircmaxell Do you feel that you still feel that way?
Maybe more or less so.
 
nite all
 
o/
 
7:18 PM
@Allenph Could be a contractual clause about that
 
@Fabor I don't have a contractual clause.
 
@Fabor always
 
found
 
@ircmaxell You have any theories on why?
 
I have days that I feel confident and strong. And I have days where I question if I can do this even at the basic levels.
@Fabor because it is hard in general. And while we are good at understanding our limitations, as you grow you become increasing critical and de-valuing of what you can do
so you tend to focus on the things you don't do well, and tend ot de-value or see the fault with the things you do well.
 
7:22 PM
@ircmaxell So you'd say the feeling grows with competency? The higher you climb the further you fall so-to-speak?
 
@Fabor that's my experience. It ebbs and flows though. Meaning at times you'll feel more confident and kick ass. Then you'll find yourself less confident
 
I'm pretty sure there's a graph of this somewhere.
 
(again, my experience)
 
@ircmaxell Do you see it as a valuable feeling or something you try to pull yourself out of. I mean there's value in not being certain.
@Allenph That a graph for ants?
 
7:25 PM
 
@Fabor there is value to it. It will push you to get better and improve
 
And FWIW I take all this as all as subjective. Consider it just a conversation more than an interview.
 
IF you can overcome it
 
@ircmaxell Do you think this is nature or nurture?
 
7:27 PM
Which one is correct? (English prospective)
- God is bigger that anything you face tomorrow
- God is bigger that anything you will be faced tomorrow
 
@Fabor honestly, I think it is a touch of both
meaning that there is a human tendancy to it
 
@Shafizadeh "God is bigger than anything you face tomorrow"
 
but we encourage that by not showing vulnerability. But implying that we're all perfect and all-knowing we reinforce the thought that "well, he seems calm and he';s good so it must be me"
 
Thx
 
@Shafizadeh "God is bigger than anything you will face tomorrow"
 
7:30 PM
Ah, ok thx 😊
 
@ircmaxell (leading question) And dev culture enables it?
 
@Fabor I think so
we tend to be cocky and value "people who just get shit done"
 
I can see how being put on a pedestal would make those feelings worse.
Seems like a double-edged sword. We have our highly knowledgeable engineers who are expected to know what's right, and our lesser-able engineers who feel their lack of knowledge makes them an imposter when looking up.
 
Wes
@Shafizadeh i wouldn't be so sure. i have a pretty crummy wednesday tomorrow
 
@ircmaxell So I guess the takeaway from me is to use that feeling to motivate rather than hinder your self-belief.
 
7:37 PM
@Fabor and it makes the more knoweldgable feel like imposters since most don't believe they've "earned" what others look up to them for
@Fabor yes. And that's a hard thing to do, but I try to do that often
 
Easier said than done. I guess the next logical step would be to try and create a way of thinking or environment which would guide people towards motivation. I think knowledge that it's normal helps, and that it'll likely never change and maybe that's a good thing.
 
totally easier said than done
this is where mentors and mentoring can be HUGELY beneficial
 
That's a good point. Mentoring and being mentored sounds like a really good idea for that.
@ircmaxell Alright, well thanks for the chat, got some good notes to expand on. If you have any additional thoughts feel free to ping me with them :)
 
@Wes you know, that sentence works only for muslems 😊 Just kidding 😉 You don't know how your tomorrow is, I will ask you about your day tomorrow 😊
 
well ... "tomorrow" will be observable, your "god" is not (and I think there was a specific rule against testing it)
 
7:47 PM
Also tomorrow never arrives.
 
I'm on the phone now, I will explain that sentence more later
 
@Fabor and vise versa
 
@Shafizadeh I understand the meaning. I just find it strange choice of words.
 
I have an html table, each row contains a checkbox and a layer. on selection of any of the rows, a callback is triggered with an array of all the currently selected rows. I need to trigger actions for selecting and deselecting the rows, and must infer this on the presence or not of the id in the array sent to the callback. Is there a general pattern name for that?
I think the simplest way to infer that is to have a different array, containing the previous state, and then to manually compare each new entries for addition, then consider each one of the entries in the previous state that are not present in the new ones as deletions. Is there an other approach?
 
@tereško That sentence just tries to be a "Promising Qoute" and gives us feel good 😊
 
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7:56 PM
@Fabor Thank you!
 
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@ircmaxell :thumbs-up:
 
good morning
 
@Shafizadeh Yeah. We have in Latvia a similar saying. Roughly translated: "Don't worry. When the next shit-storm comes, you will forget the current one".
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:P
 
@rdlowrey How does it feel to wear a ring? I remember when I wore mine I couldn't stop spinning it. Even after I stopped wearing it I would phantom spin it.
 
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a little weird at first. getting used to it now
 
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8:01 PM
I've never been a jewelry or watch person
 
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so it's definitely an adjustment
 
@rdlowrey Congrats
 
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thank you :)
 
:D
 
@ircmaxell and belated congrats to you.....it's been a while
 
8:12 PM
thanks!!!!!!
 
@rdlowrey Congrats on the wedding!!
 
@tereško hahaha
 
we live in the north; it's cold and miserable for 10 months every year and rest is called "winter"
 
8:27 PM
I bought an awesome hat in Latvia but lost it :'(
@rdlowrey That litecoin though :D
 
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bro, how do you think I paid for the wedding ring!
 
haha
It's been a crazy week for LTC. Everything is up ATM. I need to focus more on some smaller coins. Going to grab some Stellar when my BTC buying site is back online.
 
8:44 PM
@tereško Ha!
 
ThW
Yeah, I got Primitive working - finally.
 
@Wes can I bug you with a CSS question?
 
Wes
sure
 
I have a container, dev tools is showing that it has a height of 40px, but the only thing in the CSS that I can see giving it that height is a line-height of 19px. Does that sound right to you?
... and it just occurred to me to alter the line-height to see
it does seem like that's what's setting the height
nevermind!
 
Wes
you are welcome :B
 
8:54 PM
it's been a long day :P and it's not over yet. thanks anyway :D
 
Wes
:D
 
@Tiffany lol
 
Is there any difference between G and H to date()?
 
9:12 PM
Does any have a guess why any of these E_CORE_ERROR | E_CORE_WARNING | E_COMPILE_ERROR | E_ERROR | E_WARNING | E_PARSE | E_USER_ERROR | E_USER_WARNING | E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR would conflict with any part of HTTPD or PHP causing the site to produce "This site can't be reached"?
 
@Conor Check your error log
 
@PeeHaa I have. Nothing shows even with all errors on.
 
@PeeHaa Quit smoking yet?
Night all :)
 
@Fabor Oh right. Thanks for reminding me
/me lights another one up
 
Heathen :P
 
9:18 PM
@Conor How did you enable all errors?
Also is the webserver actually running?
 
@PeeHaa Yes, the webserver is running and the site loads fine when the WordPress debug is set to TRUE.
That's what's confusing. It only works when DEBUG is on.
 
night everybody..
 
@Conor Now answer my first question
!!canon errors
 
451
Q: How to get useful error messages in PHP?

CandidasaI find programming in PHP quite frustrating. Quite often I will try and run the script and just get a blank screen back. No error message, just empty screen. The cause might have been a simple syntax error (wrong bracket, missing semicolon), or a failed function call, or something else entirely. ...

 
Did you do the above?
 
9:28 PM
@PeeHaa shoot the hostage.
 
@Danack :-)
 
@PeeHaa Sorry. Yes I've done E~ALL and nothing will show in the log.
 
Wes
E~ALL
 
@Wes is this correct for default log location
 
Wes
it's E_ALL
but you would know if you actually read the link
 
9:39 PM
@Wes Right sorry. I actually tested with E_ALL not E~ALL.
I'm just trying to confirm my log output
 
Wes
ini_set('display_startup_errors', 1);
ini_set('display_errors', 1);
error_reporting(-1);
@PeeHaa just get an ecig. don't be cheap or it won't work. also start with 20mg nic or again it won't work
 
@Wes I'm editing the PHP.ini file.
 
9:53 PM
@mega6382 chatbox is a great rubber ducky sometimes
@Conor sometimes doing what @Wes said in your bootstrap file works out better
you don't have to worry that something else is overwriting it
blah, I can't play music on my host machine through remote desktop :<
 
@Wes Meh if I ever actually want to quit I will just do quit like a man
 
@PeeHaa I quit with the mod too...I used to think the same way you did. Just buy an expensive one. It's remembering that you spent $200 on a mod that prevents you from buying a pack.
 
If I can quit proper drugs surely I can stop smoking if I would really want to
 
Nah. It's totally different. Google the statistics.

I used to do "proper drugs" too.
 
@Tiffany I hear ya. But just trying to get to the root cause. It's driving me mad.
 
10:06 PM
@Tiffany you probably can, but it might be a bit fiddly
if you log in though ssh and try to run a music app, it will attempt to execute it on your local system
you need a music player, that works as a service
 
@rdlowrey congrats :)
 
@Tiffany You can use a DLNA server...expose a Raspberry Pi or something at home through DDNS. That's what I do.
 
I'm remoting into a Windows computer from a Windows computer. It is probably possible, but too much work than it's worth at this point.
 
10:22 PM
@Tiffany You could try a VLAN and then using whatever file sharing crap Windows has.
 
@Allenph yeah, more work than it's worth. I'm still on campus because I'm the advisor for a club, but I'm technically off work, just working on a project on my own time because I want to get it done.
I'm remoted into my work computer
 
Even better, you could just use TPB from anywhere. :D
 
haha
 
@Tiffany ah, no, I thought you were using linux
you should keep some music on your phone instead :D
128GB microSD cards are quite affordable (assuming you are not using iPhone or something equally silly)
 
Narrowing occurred during type inference. – #75672
 
10:47 PM
@tereško I have spotify on desktop and phone. I was considering it, but club has started. It's an anime and gaming club, so only recreational
 
no good options then
you should probably add microSD card to your xmas wishlist
 
it's not a big deal, I was only wanting to listen to a song while no students were here :P
 
11:02 PM
Alright r11, wish me luck. I started "mastering regular expressions" by Jeffrey Friedl. I believe I will now have two problems very often.
 
good luck and have fun :)
 
Man... I have an .erb file and I'm just trying to render it. They make this surprisingly difficult.
 
@LeviMorrison Why is it not simply a function that accepts a template file and an associate array with data?
 
Until the most recent version they do not have a way to render from Hash, just binding.
My Ubuntu does not have the most recent version.
 
My Ubuntu don't... My Ubuntu don't... My Ubuntu don't, want, none unless you got recent version, hon.
 
11:14 PM
lol
oh my god, the anime I'm watching, the brother and sister have a love interest thing...
 
@Tiffany ABORT MISSION
 
Hmmm... Tbh after game of thrones, I'm not even sure if that moves me in either direction
 
the male protagonist is a Gary Stu too
 
@Tiffany w... which anime is that?
 
@MadaraUchiha The Irregular at Magic High School
student suggested it
g'night
 
11:28 PM
nn
 
11:46 PM
ohayou
 
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