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12:20 AM
ohayou o/
 
@kelunik for the record, couldn't repro with latest PHP-7.2 release and debug
 
12:35 AM
mysqli_begin_transaction GOOD work on mysql 5.5.58 – #75666
 
a bug report with a youtube video! that's new
 
@pmmaga win10?
 
yup
 
the only discernible common thread atm is W7 vs W10
 
@DaveRandom So it's failing on 7 but fine on 10?
 
1:30 AM
@Trowski maybe, unknown rn
I have a wide selection of windows flavours to play with at work though
afaik the only person who can reliably repro it is @Wes
must be his magnetic personality
 
2:22 AM
damn italians
 
3:20 AM
count function accuses that could not count an ArrayObject – #75668
 
3:42 AM
good morning kids.
 
4:24 AM
Morning R11
o/ @Linus
 
Segmentation Fault – #75669
 
\o
 
5:03 AM
@JoeWatkins Since 7.2.0 I'm getting segfaults and later "Out of Memory" errors when running pthreads using phpdbg. Oddly everything worked fine with 7.2RC6. Perhaps you know what might have changed. Some builds: Using 7.2RC6 and using 7.2.0 with segfault, later becoming Out of Memory, no changes were made to thread-related code.
Looking at those builds again I noticed that the first two I linked did not use phpdbg, only the one with the "Out of Memory" error used phpdbg. /cc @bwoebi
The first two used xdebug for coverage.
 
5:29 AM
I run my symfony request like this $request = Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\Request::createFromGlobals();
Can I run the session script also like that way in stead of use Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\Session\Session;
$session = Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\new Session(); won't work
 
6:13 AM
posted on December 12, 2017

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
morning all.
 
o/
 
6:30 AM
@Trowski nothing springs to mind ... I doubt I'll be able to look today, trouble getting decent speed connection and blah blah blah ...
 
6:46 AM
 
disgusting
 
ewwww!
 
Wes
@Gordon guess the country /cc @SaitamaSama
 
@Gordon ::P
 
7:03 AM
@Wes animeland?
 
Wes
no
 
:P
 
Wes
how can you not know
weird = japan
 
:B
 
Wes
8 stars of shame
 
7:13 AM
:-)
morning
 
Wes
\o
 
o/
 
\o
 
\o
 
7:46 AM
@Wes That's what he said, animeland
 
Wes
as you can certainly see, he edited the message
 
what did he say before?
 
Wes
china
 
@Wes how can he not know?
 
Wes
right
 
7:55 AM
opcache_reset problem with file_cache – #75670
 
o/
 
\o
 
moin
 
8:12 AM
I think I am going to try to write an XML parser in Haskell, just for fun.
So, does anyone know where I can find good guides about XML parsing rules?
 
@mega6382 w3.org/XML
 
@Gordon If I recall correctly weren't you interested in maybe writing the occasional blog post?
 
@Fabor yes, but time and topics
 
@Gordon Own time own topics. I'm just providing the logistics.
 
@Gordon Thanks. :)
 
8:26 AM
@mega6382 please can you write on in C instead, that serves as a drop-in in replacement for libxml2, and supports xpath 2 and xsd 1.1 and has proper relaxng support. Oh, and a decent incremental parser, and is reentrant so it doesn't explode when you try to use zend mm. If you could have that on my desk by Friday, that will be fine.
kthxbye
 
@Fabor do you have a blog?
 
morning!
 
@Patrick No, I am just setting up one where any room 11 regular can post to. A lot in here sort-of want to make blog posts but don't really need the whole thing.
@DaveRandom is one if I recall.
 
great, more stuff I won't have time for \o/
@Fabor give me a shout if you want any room11.org DNS doing
 
@DaveRandom :D I need to send you an invite, you too @Gordon which emails?
 
8:31 AM
I wonder how much it shortens my life by when I can't access the interweb properly for just a day
 
Any room 11 regular is invited for this.
 
@Fabor I thought we already had one?
 
@Fabor i.left.my.heart.in@daverandom.com
 
I know there was an attempt to setup a blog some time ago
 
@Gordon Yeah probably by me :P
Invite en route Chris
lamephp.com WIP but it's more progress than last time.
 
8:33 AM
moin
 
@Wes May I possibly trouble you for a logo? Feel free to pass. I'll owe you a spaghetti if you do. max 170x50 pixels
 
Wes
whats that
i was doing the room11 logo once. i didn't finish it obvs
 
lol
 
Wes
the proverbial elephant in the room
 
@DaveRandom lol, I am just trying to learn Haskell, thought an XML parser would be a good idea.
@Fabor Why do have hard coded localhost url in your code? localhost:2368
 
8:46 AM
@Fabor dude, you are summoning the kraken, you know… literally. ok, actually a squid, not a kraken… but an ocean dweller for sure.
 
@mega6382 Still setting it up. NodeJS + Ghost is new to me.
@Gordon heh maybe a sort of cave dwelling eel.
@Wes I can steal this then? :P
 
Wes
if the quality is enough :B
 
@mega6382 maybe start with a JSON parser, it's a simpler format
 
Wes
i like it overall but needs to be completed. and i never complete anything :B
 
XML is a scary beast of a specification, JSON you could do in an afternoon
 
8:49 AM
@Wes PSD or ..?
 
Wes
i have it but it's just a sketch i did to try the colors. nothing actually usable
 
@DaveRandom Thanks, was just thinking that, cause I just remembered that XML have stuff like CDATA, and whatnot, and writing a parser for it is a heavy task for beginning.
 
@Fabor PDF (Pachyderm Document Format)
 
lol
@Wes Well if it's psd I would be happy to try and alter for lamephp purposes, will be shoddy word on a better foundation :P
 
@Fabor So, you are writing a BLOG script for lamePHP in NodeJS?
 
Wes
8:52 AM
it's just a merged layer, again i was just trying colors randomly
but if you are actually doing something with it i will complete it :B
 
@mega6382 I am using Ghost (Blogging app) which runs on NodeJS. Minimal work my end. Just configuration and invites.
@Wes Need something for the blog page :) it'll be the face of our site, merchandise and @PeeHaa's new tattoo.
Or just a logo in the top left.
 
@mega6382 Yeh, we should use something PHP based. I'm sure there was a popular blogging platform written in PHP, what was it again? Oh... maybe we'll just use Ghost.
 
Wes
@Fabor like this?
 
hah
 
lol
 
3 messages moved to Trash
 
Anonymous
!!wotd
 
Wanderjahr German. a year or period of travel, especially following one's schooling and before practicing a profession.
 
Anonymous
wtf!! @Wes
 
@Wes Need to get in on the animation game.
 
Wes
8:56 AM
:B
 
mornn
 
tereško morning
 
Its been 4 hours since I am at work, and haven't done a single thing.
How lazy am I?
 
Hi morning, developing the site with Yii2 but the symbols like apostrophe and currency are not working
tried with <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
but no use
even db settings are in utf8
 
@Fabor wait? is that @JayIsTooCommon?
 
9:07 AM
heh, poor Jay :( he's gone off radar.
 
@techy-coder "not working" is a really shitty description for any problem. Also - my condolences regarding yii.
 
lol
 
mornigns v2
 
Wes
@JayIsTooCommon <3
 
@JayIsTooCommon <3
 
9:21 AM
@JayIsTooCommon <3
He was a great man, may he rest in peace.
 
@JayIsTooCommon <3
 
@JayIsTooCommon <3
 
msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms996486.aspx If someone could just go ahead and kill me now, that would be awesome
 
@DaveRandom Tell me where you live, I'll right there with an axe.
 
> Note The message and type definitions in WSDL are considered to be abstract definitions. This means you don't know how they'll appear in the concrete message format until you've applied a binding to them. For example, if you use one abstract message with two different bindings, it's possible that the two concrete messages will look different. Only with 'literal' bindings are the abstract definitions guaranteed to accurately describe the concrete message format.
seriously, what does that even mean
did no-one stop along the way designing this non-existent, largely design-free "spec" and think "hmmm, people aren't ever going to use 90% of these features, maybe we should simplify it a bit"
This a spec written by people who enjoy writing specs more than they enjoy coding, and want people who enjoy coding to suffer
(ftr I am only doing this because my code gen tools are producing code that doesn't work)
 
9:31 AM
@Trowski OOM may indicate an infinite loop (or very many iterations in general) (as coverage log gets full)
 
Cool, localhost dealt with. Theme 2.0 should release soon according to author. That's the hard stuff done, now the easy stuff, whipping @DaveRandom for blog posts.
 
Once upon a time, there was a lovely little sausage called Fabien, and they all lived happily ever after, The End.
right first time
you and your complicated name
 
I like this new intellij/phpstorm feature that shows you the name of the params in method calls. but it very much interferes with line length
 
Wes
i've disabled it because of that
 
@Gordon And it breaks your indentation if you have parameters on multiple lines. I switched it off after a while.
 
9:36 AM
@mega6382 No idea about email validation APIs?? Have you seen the regex for validating emails? It's crazy
 
@James Thanks, will look into it. It sure does look crazy.
 
> Renjith R has invited you to join Room for Renjith R and Gordon. See your invitations.
@RenjithR my mum taught me never to go with people I dont know. so I have to decline.
 
@mega6382 I got your email, haven't had a chance to read it fully yet as I'm swamped at the moment but I'll get back to you :-)
 
@James Sure, no problem.
 
For Symfony HttpFoundation I use

$request = Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\Request::createFromGlobals();
Can I use for Symfony sessions also run a command like so I not need the "use"?

I have now:

use Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\Session\Session;

$session = new Session();
$session->start();
 
9:55 AM
pg_version() crashes when called on a connection to cockroach – #75671
 
@Arthur why don't you want to use the use?
 
Because I don't get the use working in a new class
 
@Arthur Yeah you can use it like this instead:

$session = new Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\Session\Session();
 
Wes
twitter.com/WesNetmo/status/940520370460856321 how hard can it be. you would think they figured out after so many years........
 
@Arthur what do you mean by that? Can you explain? I think you are solving the wrong problem.
 
10:02 AM
@Gordon exactly. the length increases exponentially
 
@Gordon Hi Gordon, the apostrophe and currency are not displaying properly instead some codes are displayed
tried with <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /> could you help me
 
@SaitamaSama don't bloat your method with excessive amount of arguments and you'll be fine
0 arguments = awesome; 1 argument = good, 2 arguments = fine, 3 arguments = too much
works most of the times for me
 
@AlmaDo well, that could be done, but what about the library functions, or internal ones
like json_*, etc.
 
Anyone watch Star Trek Discovery? It's pretty good.
 
/me watches Haruhi Suzumiya no Yuutsu
 
10:07 AM
do we still use lxr for php-src .. or?
 
@techy-coder <?php header("Content-Type: text/html; charset=[your charset]"); ?>. the meta tag is just a fallback. it is only used when there is no response header present
 
@techy-coder Stop spamming the thread with your question. you have posted it already and should be enough. If someone wants to answer they will.
 
@AlmaDo yes. lxr.room11.org
 
cool.. need to look up smth
 
you could just use !!lxr as well
 
10:10 AM
no, I need something moooar than just basic search
 
@Gordon When I have a new class, the sessions from outside are not working in the new class. Same problem I have with the request
@Gordon when I run the comment of the request like this $request = Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\Request::createFromGlobals(); in the new class, it works
 
@Gordon it wasn't worked with <?php header("Content-Type: text/html; charset=[your charset]"); ?>
 
@Arthur can you prepare a small example and upload it to pastebin or something. thanks.
@techy-coder what did you put for [your charset]?
 
@Gordon header('Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8');
 
@techy-coder did you verify in your browser that the content-type header is actually sent in the response headers?
 
10:16 AM
@Gordon Yes it is perfectly displaying in the browser
@Gordon shall i create separate room so i can post my web link which will be useful to verify?
 
@techy-coder no. I cant help you debug this. I have work to do. consider opening a question on SO
 
@Gordon the website is in yii2 framework, do i want to code any extra to display symbols, Thanks for your reply
 
> I cant help you debug this. I have work to do. consider opening a question on SO
 
@Gordon Here you can see some example of code of the problem i had with stackoverflow.com/questions/47753822/…
 
@Gordon Okay Thanks for your consideration
 
10:22 AM
@Arthur I have no clue what you are asking. sorry. you are on your own.
 
@Gordon that this use Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack;

class data extends database
{
public function __construct(RequestStack $requestStack)
{
$this->requestStack = $requestStack;

print $this->requestStack->query->get('bar', 'baz');
}
} is not working for me
 
@JoeWatkins it doesnt hurt when its blunt, right? the son has a blunt butter knife. it doesnt hurt.
2 mins ago, by Gordon
@Arthur I have no clue what you are asking. sorry. you are on your own.
 
@Gordon It will, when you try really hard to actually slit your throat.
 
@mega6382 this will solve the problem, thanks!
 
@Arthur What will?
 
10:27 AM
@mega6382 $session = new Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\Session\Session();
 
10:41 AM
Morning 11
 
\o
 
@Arthur you are solving the wrong problem
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Thanks, I'll have a look. And yeah.....although React is nice, the Redux bit doesn't seem like how I want to write non-trivial applications.
 
@tereško How do you mean?
 
@Arthur if you are using request abstraction, then fucking commit to it. There is no point in then looking for crap in $_POST array
you have a method $request->get('fieldName') .. so use it
instead of fucking about in the innards
 
10:46 AM
@tereško That's just a raw example to check if that's working
 
what is the "that", which you suspect of not working?
 
@tereško print $request->query->get('bar', 'baz');
 
don't fuck about in the innards
use $request->get('bar', 'baz')
 
I think the proper usage of debugger could solve 99% of SO questions. Or more.
 
@tereško You mean $request->get('bar', 'baz') ?
 
10:50 AM
@AlmaDo Yeah, but people will still ignore it and post questions on SO.
 
@AlmaDo 98% of the question could be resolved, if people were able to read the error message
 
@tereško yes, the next 1% is up to debugger
 
@tereško ok, be that code neither does work <?php

use Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack;

class data extends database
{
public function __construct(RequestStack $requestStack)
{
$this->requestStack = $requestStack;

print $this->requestStack->get('bar', 'baz');
}
}

?>
 
I rarely use a debugger :/
 
what the actual fuck are you doing ?
 
10:52 AM
the only one I regularly use is strace
if that can be considered a debugger
 
why do you have class data extends database ?!?
 
@tereško Run a new class where also the request must work in
 
@Arthur do you know what "extends" means?
 
@AlmaDo Yeah that for the mysqli database class
 
10:53 AM
have you heard about such a thing as dependency injection?
 
@tereško No I learned this from a tutor
 
Wes
@AlmaDo wonder if it's 1:1 gear ratio :B
 
you should probably find a different teacher
1 min ago, by tereško
@Arthur do you know what "extends" means?
 
@FlorianMargaine it.. kind of can be:p
 
But when I use <?php

use Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack;

class data
{
public function __construct(RequestStack $requestStack)
{
$this->requestStack = $requestStack;

print $this->requestStack->get('bar', 'baz');
}
}

?> it doensn't work neither
 
10:56 AM
3 mins ago, by tereško
@Arthur do you know what "extends" means?
 
why would it.. you don't instantiate your class..
@Wes but the abstraction is shitty (:
 
Wes
@tereško you should know by now that the first lesson in any php class is

class DB
{
    function __construct(){
        try{
            $this->db = new PDO();
        }catch(PDOException $exception){
            die("DATABASE ERROR!!!");
        }
    }
}
 
@Wes please don't troll in front of newbies. I will flag you as "harmful".
 
Wes
:B
 
@tereško merge a outside class with the class and run it by $this->
 
10:59 AM
@Wes what a loser, real boys use getInstance() ..
 
Wes
@AlmaDo fuck, right :B :D
!!should i get some bitcoins or not
 
You should not get some bitcoins.
 
@Arthur no. That's what the end result acts like, but it not the point of "extends". When you extend a superclass, it means, that you are defining a more specialized type. For example: class Corgi extends Dog is correct. But class User extends Databse is not, because "user" is not a specialized type of "database".
that's why in UML you draw arrows back to the superclass from the subclass and call it "generalization", because the supercalss is more general case of the subclass
 
for gods sake I hope some day they will fucking stop teaching newbies "OOP" with the animal kingdom examples because the result is always a monkey-coder..
7
 
@Arthur there is a diagram with generalizations
@AlmaDo well, I think my "animal" example was correct
 
11:04 AM
@tereško yeah it was - it's not about that example. just the general idea of teaching "OOP" through that is terrible
 
true
 
and as for inheritance - there are very rare cases when it is truly justified and understanding of those does not come easily
almost everyone does it wrong thinking "ok, I have 5 methods in class A and 4 of those are same in class B, hence class B extends A" ..
 
therefore: you should favor composition over inheritance, @Arthur
 
^
to understand inheritance one needs first to come to understanding what "type" means - truly means. People always think about that as it was only a "set of possible values" forgetting that it is also (and mostly) defined by the set of possible operations.
 
@tereško Please give the example code what's correct for merge the mysqli class, so I see it by example
 
11:10 AM
@Arthur forget about "merging" it's a wrong way to think about it
 
@AlmaDo ok, so run the database class in the __construct function then?
 
no
I would suggest you to start with the basics. That is class, what is object, how objects can interact with each other. what is object state
how objects can be created and how to make simple compositions between those
your question will be answered by just picking up things I mentioned above
 
ok, I'm going to do that, thanks for your patience
 
Imagine that you are trying to write grammatically correct sentence without knowing the alphabet. Of course that will fail? You need to first know the letters, then some words and then some grammar rules.
 
11:35 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again.
yesterday, by mega6382
I wish there was a cls command for this chat.
 
Anonymous
@mega6382 make it
 
@SaitamaSama Is it the guy from the Walking Dead? whats his name?
@samayo Yeah, gonna have to.
 
@mega6382 no, I don't think so. It's a new game.
 
No, I mean the face looks exactly like him.
 
11:38 AM
oh :b
 
Actually, just googled it, it is the same actor.
 
Anonymous
11:50 AM
@MadaraUchiha ping
 
Wes
@mega6382 norman reedus. yes he is
also the same voice
 
oh
okay then :P
 
user895378
morning o/
 
\o
 
12:03 PM
@Arthur
class Something {
    private $connection;
    private function __construct(MySQLi $connection) {
        $this->connection = $connection;
    }
}
also, @Arthur, I think this applies to what you write:
"Info", "Data", & "Object" in class names are correctly pronounced "ummm"
 
Not sure about "Info"
depending on what you are doing
bags of state used in parsing routines, for instance
 
@tereško I have a PhpInfo class
@tereško what does the @Arthur class annotation do?
3
 
@Gordon it pings
 
@tereško ah
 
well .. at least I hope it pings
 
12:11 PM
by mistake i run shutdown -h now on DigitalOcean server :(
 
wrong terminal ?
 
no,i think my droplet is permanently shutdown.
 
you have to reboot it in their panel iirc
I had that too when I manually did it
 
Hello. I am using Facebook sdk 5 with php and i have set the parametters to retrieve the country

$response = $fb->get('/me?fields=id,name,email,first_name,last_name,location', $accessToken->getValue());

However when i do
$me = $response->getGraphUser();
echo "Country: ".$me->getProperty('county')."<br>";

Nothing is being displayed.
 
@Ekin aye thanks,i thought i lost everything.
 
12:18 PM
:-)
 
12:31 PM
!!booze glenfarclas 25
 
Search for "glenfarclas 25" (20 results)
• Glenfarclas 25 Year - Expert Rating: 91 - User Rating: 4.2 ★★★★☆ (https://distiller.com/spirits/glenfarclas-25)
• Glenfiddich 12 Year - Expert Rating: 86 - User Rating: 3.3 ★★★☆☆ (https://distiller.com/spirits/glenfiddich-12)
• Glenfiddich 15 Year Solera Reserve - Expert Rating: 86 - User Rating: 3.8 ★★★★☆ (https://distiller.com/spirits/glenfiddich-15-solera-reserve)
• Glenfiddich 18 Year - Expert Rating: 90 - User Rating: 4 ★★★★☆ (https://distiller.com/spirits/glenfiddich-18)
 
got this one yesterday ^
it's rather mild
doesnt mix too well with water
and its kinda sweet indeed
not as sweet as a JD though
 
@samayo pong
 
@Jeeves reads nice
 
@Ekin Why?
 
12:35 PM
!!dad
 
Why did the coffee file a police report? It got mugged
 
@Jeeves Stupid bot.
 
@mega6382 Yes.
2
 
@Gordon as a gift?
 
@mega6382 yes
 
12:49 PM
@Jeeves we should truncate the result to a maximum of 5 or ~5, imo
 
@SaitamaSama No.
 
1:00 PM
Muahaha Getting @DaveRandom to register as an author makes me feel like I caught my first Pokemon.
 
Anonymous
1:25 PM
@MadaraUchiha I can't find that button to create a new room
 
TypeError:Argument 1 passed to Dijon\Model\SiteSettings::__construct() must be an instance of iterable, instance of Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection given,
...but that class implements that interface?
 
it does? I only see it implementing Selectable
 
I was fooled by PhpStorms stub code.
which has:
/**
 * Interface to detect if a class is traversable using &foreach;.
 * @link php.net/manual/en/class.traversable.php
 */
interface Traversable extends iterable {
}
which is the wrong way round for a start, php.net/manual/en/language.types.iterable.php
> Iterable is a pseudo-type introduced in PHP 7.1.
gdi
 
it's probably that was around due to the hack of how it works.
and the real problem is that I'm still on 7.0 right now.
waiting till 7.2.1 to push for the upgrade to that.
 
1:38 PM
7.2.0 borked?
only reason for not upgrading here is xdebug
 
More religious beliefs. 'that shalt not use .0 of any software release'.
5
 
Just trowing a random question into discussion with no context whatsoever:
https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/111366/should-i-use-a-tld-for-localhost-websites
 
@LucasBustamante I'd recommend not doing that, as weird things could happen. Instead, if you set up something like www.local.example.com to resolve to 127.0.0.1 then it will look like a real name to all the software you use.
Also, it looks like a subdomain of example.com, which makes testing cross domain stuff easier, and also allows you to serve google adsense javascript locally - which can be useful for testing.
 
Wes
@Ocramius xdebug works for me on 7.2
 
@ocramius seeing as you're here....can you point me to how to clear out a doctrine collection, and set it to new set of values in one step. Currently I seem to need to have a hack in place:
        /** @var $siteFromDb \Dijon\Model\Site */
        $siteFromDb->getSiteSettings()->clear();
        $this->em->persist($siteFromDb); // this is probably bogus
        $this->em->flush($siteFromDb);  // this is probably bogus

        $siteFromDb->setSiteSettings($settings);
        $this->em->persist($siteFromDb);
        $this->em->flush($siteFromDb);
The site_settings are setup as:
    /**
     * Many SiteSettings for one site.
     * @OneToMany(targetEntity="Dijon\Model\SiteSetting", mappedBy="site", cascade={"all"}, orphanRemoval=true)
     */
    private $siteSettings;

    public function getSiteSettings()
    {
        return $this->siteSettings;
    }

    public function setSiteSettings($settings)
    {
        $this->siteSettings = $settings;
    }
 
1:49 PM
@Danack You mean, a pattern that adds .local subdomain for the real domain, right?
 
@LucasBustamante yes, but as a subdomain of the real domain, not a separate domain.
Real: www.example.com
Points to local host: www.local.example.com
 
@Danack persist shouldn't be needed O_o
 
It's also got the benefit of being under your control, and not subject to the whims of google.
 
could well be a bug - I rarely clear it
 
I thought the clear was needed as I get Doctrine\DBAL\Exception\UniqueConstraintViolationException:An exception occurred while executing 'INSERT INTO site_setting otherwise.
btw, if you know anyone looking for a job in Bristol, the company I work for is hiring.
on two actually interesting projects.
 
1:53 PM
@Danack Guess you will never use amphp/parser, it's still on 1.0.0.
 
@Danack shall do if I hear of somebody :-) Maybe ask Anthony?
 
@Ocramius yeah, that's a good idea.
Though any senior person would need to mentor some of the juniors, which might or might not be a perfect fit for him.
 
@Ocramius can your ProxyManager do this: opencredo.com/dynamic-proxies-java-part-2 ?
in particular: can it generate a type-safe decorator?
 
@Gordon yes
they use it for twig views (afaik)
another interesting one would be strict_types enforcing 'a la Scott
 
Wes
2:38 PM
afternoons
 
o/
こにちわ
 
2:58 PM
乇乂ㄒ尺卂
ㄒ卄丨匚匚
 
lol
 
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